**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 13 02:59:58 2012 Apr 13 06:59:02 is there a way to say that one image requires a kernel of a specific size, while there is another global prefered version of the kernel? Apr 13 06:59:10 specific version* Apr 13 07:00:07 tried doing PREFFERED_VERSION_linux-kernel ?= "3.1" in the conf, and PREFFERED_VERSION_linux-kernel = "3.3" in the image, however that image also uses 3.1 Apr 13 07:01:02 PREFERRED, not PREFFERED Apr 13 07:06:58 mertsas, check out in recipes Apr 13 07:08:38 erwt: any hints to which recipes? Can't find a recipe which does this Apr 13 07:08:43 hey guies i want to create a fastboot image using OE ,i know i wil have to alter the calling mechanism in these so someone has done some homework plz let me know Apr 13 07:09:01 mertsas, how are u building it Apr 13 07:09:13 i mean which command Apr 13 07:10:04 and also which board , arch ? Apr 13 07:10:32 bitbake my-33-image to build the image which should use the 3.3 kernel, and bitbake my-image to build the image which should use the 3.1 kernel. The board is a pandaboard ES, with an omap4460 Apr 13 07:12:11 wow pandaboard , would love to have one / Apr 13 07:12:40 erwt: get ordering :-D Apr 13 07:12:57 mertsas, pastebin your my-33-image and my-image Apr 13 07:13:06 XorA, thanks Apr 13 07:13:15 they are kind of neat, but kind of a few stuff which requires us to either upgrade or cherry pick the kernel, so trying to update it, but only with a specific image for now:P Apr 13 07:18:14 erwt: http://pastebin.com/DkfpbZHW Apr 13 07:20:52 and in my distro config I have PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-kernel ?= "3.1" Apr 13 07:21:43 mertsas, first of all i am not sure whether that PREFERRED_VERSION ......=3.1 is valid or not Apr 13 07:22:44 u will have to find that *.bb file which is using or providing that header Apr 13 07:24:20 erwt: well, the 3.1 seems valid, as that's the one that is always picked Apr 13 07:24:46 bcoz in that *.bb file , there will be definitely other files which are using Apr 13 07:25:06 mertsas, so are u trying for higher kernel v ersion ? Apr 13 07:25:13 are you thinking of the bb file which is providing linux-kernel? linux-kernel_3.1.bb? Apr 13 07:25:20 yes Apr 13 07:25:39 erwt: yes, I'm trying to make only a particular image require linux-kernel_3.3.bb Apr 13 07:26:26 check whether it provides or in recipes first check whether linux-kernel_3.3.bb file exists or some other name Apr 13 07:26:44 the file exists, both of them provide virtual/kernel Apr 13 07:27:06 then i can tell u ahead Apr 13 07:27:24 gm Apr 13 07:28:03 hi likewise Apr 13 07:28:07 <_tasslehoff_> I'm trying to get ogre running in oe-core. To run the examples it needs an X server. What's the minimum I need to add to my image to get that? I currently have a console-image, and installing xfce/gnome seems like overkill. Apr 13 07:28:09 no, they don't. None of them provide virtual/kernel. Should they provide both virtual/kernel and linux-kernel? Apr 13 07:29:41 mertsas, exactly if u write Prefer...=3.3 it is never going to work , if its *.bb file does not exist Apr 13 07:30:13 then by default it will always choose 3.1 headers Apr 13 07:30:29 erwt: ok, thought it would work if the bb file was named the same as what we prefer Apr 13 07:32:48 mertsas, and remember these files are provided by OE ,so if they are not providing support for 3.3 then u cant do anything Apr 13 07:33:09 u will have to work on your own for 3.3 Apr 13 07:33:36 which files? all of these files are written by me Apr 13 07:35:29 mertsas, good Apr 13 07:35:57 still didn't work though. Added PROVIDES += "virtual/kernel linux-kernel" but still no good Apr 13 07:38:12 _tasslehoff_: there used to be an xserver-nodm package Apr 13 07:38:20 _tasslehoff_: no idea if it made it across to oe-core though Apr 13 07:39:33 XorA, have u build a minimum X based system if yes wht s your file sytem size Apr 13 07:40:09 erwt: I never use X on my panda/beagle Apr 13 07:40:30 XorA, thanks Apr 13 07:40:39 no display, no point Apr 13 07:41:08 I know you can get gpe + xserver into less than 12M from Zaurus days Apr 13 08:04:59 XorA, plz give me details if u have " I know you can get gpe + xserver into less than 12M from Zaurus days " Apr 13 08:05:23 XorA, it would be great to know that Apr 13 08:05:42 erwt: you have all the details Apr 13 08:12:44 XorA, i mean the recipe and corresponding arguements for Xorg Apr 13 08:13:24 erwt: you have all the info I have, I dont have mental space for over 5 years of history of my work :-D Apr 13 08:13:40 XorA, hahahahha Apr 13 08:14:41 erwt: it was custom image I was creating to try and get useful Angstrom image on a machine with max 14M of flash. But to be useful you could not take more than 12M otherwise jffs blows up Apr 13 08:19:05 <_tasslehoff_> XorA: seems it did. what does nodm stand for? Apr 13 08:19:17 _tasslehoff_: no desktop manager Apr 13 08:19:18 <_tasslehoff_> that was a lazy-question :) Apr 13 08:19:20 <_tasslehoff_> ah Apr 13 08:21:24 XorA, so rdesktop and other clients will not work right ? if its nodm Apr 13 08:59:32 <_tasslehoff_> someone mentioned an Arago tool to create a software manifest from an oe-classic image. anyone got a link/name? Apr 13 09:07:00 <_tasslehoff_> ericben: ^ you mentioned it once and said the link was down atm. Apr 13 09:30:52 _tasslehoff_ : http://arago-project.org/git/?p=arago-utils.git;a=blob;f=create-manifest.sh;h=d4c4a3e2bdbbd40273c529478b18f98f7ff19ddd;hb=HEAD Apr 13 09:49:42 good morning Apr 13 10:38:52 <_tasslehoff_> What does this really mean? : QA Issue: freeimage rdepends on freeimage-dev Apr 13 10:43:18 <_tasslehoff_> I tried just grabbing the freeimage-recipe from oe-classic Apr 13 16:27:26 need a hint.. I'm fixing coreutils to use the alternatives class.. how can I make: base_bindir_progs = "cat chgrp chmod ..." into /bin/... Apr 13 16:27:40 I assume there is some simply python magic I can do with ${@...} Apr 13 16:50:32 ok.. I've verified that the routerstationpro kernel is the same before and after my tuning changes.. (or should I say w/ the changes reverted) Apr 13 16:52:06 only differences I see look like they can be explained by the path difference Apr 13 16:55:50 path differences in kernel ? Apr 13 16:56:07 ya.. debug info and such Apr 13 16:56:11 you mean debug info Apr 13 16:56:13 ah ok Apr 13 20:05:20 hi, it's been a while since I followed OE, can OE be used to build android packages? I mean with building the dependencies and all. Apr 13 20:05:48 it is "possible".. but as far as I know, nobody has done it.. Apr 13 20:06:10 OpenHandset Alliance (i.e. google) requires their own build system for certification of Android.. which is what most people want.. Apr 13 20:06:55 fray, "possible" like using an external toolchain? or possible like in "OE knows about the .apk format and conventions" Apr 13 20:07:05 ? Apr 13 20:07:20 possible as in bitbake is a generic build system, and all you would need to do is tell it how to build the packages, .apk, etc.. Apr 13 20:07:25 AFAIK nobody has done that Apr 13 20:07:55 I get it now, thanks Apr 13 20:15:20 thats what Embedded Alley was doing I suppose Apr 13 20:16:10 due to the OHA requirements, I don't know of anyone who's using anything but google's build system to do this stuff.. Apr 13 20:16:22 I know a lot of people really hate googles build system though Apr 14 00:17:38 * mr_science heads home... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 14 02:59:58 2012