**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 09 02:59:59 2012 May 09 06:39:04 my write permissions to oe-core somehow got lost in the repo refactoring. Can somebody please have a look so i can apply this series acked by Scott Garman http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2012-May/021997.html May 09 06:39:57 Pushing to git@git.openembedded.org:openembedded-core May 09 06:39:58 W access for openembedded-core DENIED to bernhard_reutner_fischer May 09 06:51:32 blindvt__: new layers are pull based so only 2 people have R/W to oe-core May 09 07:02:21 JaMa, I see, so is there anything i have to do to get these 6 patches applied? Whom should i poke? May 09 07:03:18 JaMa, or are they automagically scheduled now? May 09 07:04:45 blindvt__: just wait, if it takes too long poke RP May 09 07:05:33 JaMa, k. Thanks! May 09 07:05:42 good morning May 09 07:09:05 pb_, ping 2 meta-micro patchlets: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2012-May/021895.html http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2012-May/021896.html May 09 07:09:18 hello, simple question about oe-dev|classic and oe-core ........ as far as i can see, core does actually not support real machines/distros per se. in my case i have to build for an ipaq hx4700 which means i should use the classic one ? May 09 07:28:46 hi guys May 09 07:28:48 quick question May 09 07:29:32 how can i take out part of an EXTRA_OECONF line specified by the openembedded-core recipe using a bbappend in my layer? May 09 07:29:33 lautriv: check meta-handheld layer May 09 07:29:50 i want to get rid of a --disable-something May 09 07:30:03 fraxinas: no you have to overwrite it completely May 09 07:30:12 meh May 09 07:30:14 JaMa, is asked before any pull, is that layer in core ? May 09 07:30:23 that's what i was afraid was gonna happen May 09 07:30:23 fraxinas: or send patch to oe-core .bb to introduce extra variable for --disable-something and then overwrite just that May 09 07:30:33 aye May 09 07:30:37 thx jaMa May 09 07:30:38 cu May 09 07:30:46 lautriv: it's extra layer.. see LayerIndex on wiki May 09 07:31:30 JaMa, sound like it'll become a new mess :( will see .... May 09 08:28:38 denix: ping May 09 08:35:37 good morning May 09 08:36:51 gm silvio_ , all May 09 08:58:16 morning all May 09 10:38:29 hi. it is possible to build two different versions of gcc-cross at the same time? we'd like to do that to use the default gcc-cross for the whole system and gcc-cross 4.2.4 for apex (we have a platform that needs apex). May 09 10:44:43 fog: AFAIK no May 09 10:47:48 mckoan: thanks. May 09 11:02:24 how to add ubi support in u-boot? May 09 11:05:36 gst May 09 11:13:57 sorry about wrong message May 09 11:47:07 Hi! May 09 11:47:49 For me as a somewhat novice user is wondering how I could boot oe in my home theatre system like a Live-session. May 09 12:46:59 Umeaboy, like any other live-sys, depends mainly on how you can manage a bootstrap ( pull that kernel in ) the rest is basically just a bunch of ( hopefully existing ) drivers and your software-collection / setup. May 09 12:48:07 lautriv: So, my first step would be? I know that it doesn't have an enabled SSH-server. May 09 12:48:18 Even if such should exist in it. May 09 12:48:25 I checked the ports. May 09 12:48:41 Using nmap. May 09 12:50:31 Umeaboy, before any attempt, collect information about the given hardware, most important is CPU/MEM/FLASH, also very useful if you can get details on the existing system. May 09 12:51:22 I think it's ARM-based since the ROM says so. May 09 12:53:46 Umeaboy, replace think by know and you are one step closer .......... there also different ARM's around, having more or less needful on-chip functions ( USB/GPIO/framebuffer etc..) some support hardware-FP where you may consider to build armhf instead armel. May 09 12:54:02 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56935780/ROM's/LG_HB_6200M55.rom May 09 12:54:54 That's the rom given by LG. May 09 12:55:15 For HX46RN, but it's called HX46R in UK. May 09 12:55:40 Umeaboy, any lik for specs handy ? May 09 12:56:32 Nope. I just asked LG to upload them. I guess they have to ask their lawyer what they have to release or not. May 09 12:56:40 It'll take some time. May 09 12:57:17 And noooo, I don't think I have the proper chisel to open it. May 09 12:57:49 Umeaboy, don't you now how to use a screwdriver and a spyglass ? ;) May 09 12:58:53 Not really no. ;) May 09 13:01:17 So........ Have you looked at the ROM I linked to? May 09 13:01:27 lautriv: ^^ May 09 14:20:39 Umeaboy, are you somewhat comfortable with hexeditors ? May 09 14:24:24 lautriv: Well, I know that it's used to look inside of ROM-files. May 09 14:24:38 Other than THAT......... NOT really no. May 09 14:25:30 Umeaboy, there is a kernel embedded in the rom-file, has an offset of roughly 23M May 09 14:26:51 OK........... AND? May 09 14:27:46 What now? May 09 14:28:32 Linux version 2.6.27 (mtk01917@mszsdcbm01) (gcc version 4.4.1 (GCC) ) #2 PREEMPT Wed Jan 18 01:36:41 CST 2012 May 09 14:33:56 Umeaboy, haha, now i know where your nick comes from ;) i mentioned the embedded kernel because certain reasons : a.) you may wrap another suited for your needs b.) get details about internals . is your home-theatre connected to the network right now ? May 09 14:34:56 YES. May 09 14:35:01 It is. May 09 14:35:28 Umeaboy, what reported nmap in detal (hurry, i have to go for a few hours) May 09 14:36:50 OK. May 09 14:37:33 Have to say that there ARE some ports open, but I don't know how to move on from there. I can't ssh into it since it doesn't have an active SSH-server as it seems. May 09 14:37:59 Umeaboy, got that, but what else is open ? May 09 14:38:43 Can I send you the nmap report file? May 09 14:38:49 Via DCC-send. May 09 14:39:16 lautriv: ^^ May 09 16:22:05 bb all May 09 16:30:51 03Kristoffer Ericson  07master * r1ff63aa26e 10openembedded.git/recipes/opkg-utils/ (5 files in 2 dirs): May 09 16:30:51 This updates SRC_URI as the svn.openmoko.org repository is now down. May 09 16:30:51 The changes of this patch were picked from oe-core and brought over. May 09 16:30:51 Signed-off-by: Apelete Seketeli May 09 16:30:51 Signed-off-by: Kristoffer Ericson May 09 16:49:13 gm May 09 18:09:33 hi, i have Bluetechnix i.MX51 with openembeded system. The opkg update complains to non existing "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/unstable/ipk/glibc/armv7a/machine/sbc-imx51/Packages.gz". I cannot update the system or install any package on it. What can i do? May 09 18:14:39 wrong channel. May 09 18:14:45 #angstrom May 09 18:22:03 sorry, i will ask there May 09 20:39:01 lautriv: You here now? May 09 20:39:16 actually yes May 09 20:39:44 OK. I'll be home in a while. May 09 20:39:49 Umeaboy, DCC failed for some unknown reason. May 09 20:40:33 Yes. I'll upload it to dropbox when I get home. I'm on the bus now. May 09 20:43:28 Umeaboy, hurry up, i have to leave in approx an half hour ....... May 09 20:44:20 Well I'm about ten minutes away from home & I can't threaten the busdriver. ;) May 09 20:44:40 Cool down ma brotha from anotha motha. May 09 20:44:45 Hehe May 09 20:45:19 :) May 09 20:47:21 Yaaaay! May 09 20:47:47 Was that a hashpipe I just saw break? May 09 20:47:53 Haha May 09 20:48:29 I' disconnect now. See you in about 5 minutes. May 09 21:02:58 lautriv: Here you have the first file created by nmap: May 09 21:03:02 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56935780/Other/Files%20made%20by%20NMAP/192.168.0.101-nmap-report-comprehensive.gnmap May 09 21:03:28 Here's the second file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56935780/Other/Files%20made%20by%20NMAP/192.168.0.101-nmap-report-comprehensive.nmap May 09 21:03:47 And the last file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56935780/Other/Files%20made%20by%20NMAP/192.168.0.101-nmap-report-comprehensive.xml May 09 21:08:05 Umeaboy, ok, some making sense, others not. e.g. your port 7000 is surely not used for AFS3 ;-)) you may simply try to telnet on the open post, where you can probably omit 161, 1900 and 5353 which may/are probably stated right. May 09 21:08:23 s/post/port May 09 21:09:17 Hold on...... One thing at a time please. May 09 21:09:22 I open putty. May 09 21:09:25 Set it to telnet. May 09 21:10:16 Then...............? May 09 21:11:12 Type 192.168.0.101 for IP-adress & port 161 & then click Connect? May 09 21:11:20 Umeaboy, putty as in winblows ? May 09 21:11:24 Nope. May 09 21:11:34 Using putty in Linux of course. May 09 21:11:40 I prefer using that. May 09 21:11:47 Now whaat? May 09 21:12:13 Connection refused on 161 May 09 21:12:38 Umeaboy, ok, if you think so ....... other people just "telnet somehost port" however, i assume 161,1900 and 5353 is NOT needed to telnet because they have a sense, use the next one. May 09 21:12:53 OK. May 09 21:13:09 Same reply from 1900. May 09 21:13:48 Is it really possible to run Telnet thru WLAN? May 09 21:13:58 Umeaboy, *caugh* i mentione 3 posts NOT to telnet and you check exact those ? May 09 21:13:59 Isn't it meant to be usmodems?ed in May 09 21:14:06 sed in modems May 09 21:14:12 OK. May 09 21:14:20 Which one do I check then? May 09 21:14:49 Umeaboy, anyone mentioned by nmap BUT 161,1900 and 5353 May 09 21:15:00 OK. May 09 21:15:04 I'll try. May 09 21:15:06 Wait. May 09 21:18:22 Umeaboy, while you are testing ............ does this thingie have a small button to press with a pencil somewhere on the rear ? May 09 21:18:24 Nope. None worked. May 09 21:19:22 Nope. Just checked. May 09 21:21:33 lautriv: ^^ May 09 21:23:18 Umeaboy, ok, next possibility ........ for clarification : nearly every vendor of embedded thingies has a kind of backdoor for service, the first ( telnet which is basically ssh without the first s ) failed at least in "regular mode" so there are certain options like press and hold such a hidden button while powering on, another method is to hold specific keys on the frontpanel while powering on OR for a certain amount of time ( mostly >3 sec).. May 09 21:23:18 ....what buttons are there ? May 09 21:25:47 Power, Play/Pause, Stop, Volume Up and Down, Func May 09 21:26:14 Thoose are on top of it. May 09 21:28:56 Well? May 09 21:29:37 Umeaboy, ok, i would try first to power down, press func & power together AND hold func down after you see lights coming up........look if something unusual happens like blinking, another color, something displayed. you may google for hints of other users and re-nmap if you got some change. May 09 21:31:45 OK. May 09 21:31:47 Hold on. May 09 21:33:15 Nothin, nada, zilch. May 09 21:33:58 Umeaboy, i bet there is a backdoor, what connectors ? May 09 21:34:00 It just seemed to shutdown directly after boot-splash. May 09 21:34:31 Yeah, me to, but no connectors. I can take a picture of the back if you want to see. May 09 21:34:41 Umeaboy, when this happend, did you wait a bit ? May 09 21:34:55 Yes. May 09 21:35:21 Umeaboy, tell me exack name of this thingie May 09 21:36:06 Well, the UK modelname is H46R May 09 21:36:12 Mine is H46RN. May 09 21:36:21 HX46R May 09 21:36:25 HX46RN May 09 21:36:28 Sorry. May 09 21:36:30 and it's called LG home-theater ? May 09 21:36:44 I think so yes. May 09 21:36:52 Or media center perhaps. May 09 21:37:01 ok, you google, i duckdick ;) May 09 21:37:14 http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CHcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lg.com%2Fuk%2Ftv-audio-video%2Fhome-cinema%2FLG-HX46R.jsp&ei=g-OqT7GFEITg4QT6kJnQCA&usg=AFQjCNG4iJxNK4BCqFIlA99NcDarJYPOiA May 09 21:37:23 Sorry for the long link. May 09 21:37:25 Google made it. May 09 21:37:42 http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-audio-video/home-cinema/LG-HX46R.jsp May 09 21:44:31 lautriv: Well? May 09 21:46:34 Umeaboy, google was not about any specs/pics etc. but for a found backdoor ;) May 09 21:47:54 Oh? May 09 21:48:09 Could you please give me a link? May 09 21:48:22 Or at least tell me the searchwords. May 09 21:52:17 lautriv: Well? May 09 21:53:35 Umeaboy, i'm at it on duckduckgo while i assumed you do so on google..........for now i found only something to un-region. May 09 21:53:59 Same here. May 09 22:03:31 Soooooo, you where wrong? May 09 22:04:46 Umeaboy, found a risky solution, this box is looking for updates if your network is proper setup, could be redirected ;) however would be saver to find a button-combination or make it crash before you brick it ... May 09 22:05:51 Umeaboy, i bet there is a simple way but they won't ditch your nose in ;) May 09 22:05:58 Yeah, but isn't the ROM supposed to be some sort of reset-solution? May 09 22:11:34 lautriv: You were thinking about changing to let it look for a custom update instead? May 09 22:11:54 If only I could downgrade the kernel. May 09 22:12:57 Umeaboy, let me explain a bit general.... this LG is a custom, embedded box. based on a MPU it has to initialize the hardware to have surrounding stuff up ( light, framebuffer, inputs, memory etc. ) after that, it need to bootstrap linux. this is done by a pre-loaded executable which will either put the kernel-image in RAM ( mostly) or execute it in place in a specific area. the romfile contains all together, made for a specific location in flas May 09 22:12:57 h and you may change it simply BUT it's also checksummed and contains several parts so a mistake may render the whole thing unusable ( this is called "bricked" because it won't do more than a brick ) May 09 22:14:09 Right. I do know what bricked means. May 09 22:14:39 There should be a way to complete a full backup first thou. May 09 22:15:38 Umeaboy, so your best bet is to find the backdoor where you can access linux while it's up, unfortunately it looks like nobody fond something right now. May 09 22:16:29 Umeaboy, backup is no problem, you have already the rom but you can't put it back if the internal function is lost. May 09 22:17:05 Yes. May 09 22:17:29 But there should be a way to install some distro on a memory card connected via USB, right? May 09 22:17:35 To try that way. May 09 22:17:52 no May 09 22:18:20 OK.... I meant like you can do in cell-phones. May 09 22:18:27 You understand me? May 09 22:18:42 reason is the bootstrap.........in the opposite of a PC, there is no bios or the like which may even look for other drives. May 09 22:19:03 So bootstrap replaces the bios? May 09 22:19:48 Umeaboy, you can do so on smartphones because they are made to develop on it, protocol and memory is well known. May 09 22:20:28 Umeaboy, bootstrapping is a term for (simplified) initialize and load May 09 22:21:06 OK. May 09 22:21:14 Soooooo, what's the next step? May 09 22:21:52 I'm waiting to get a RS-232 cable. May 09 22:22:02 If that helps. May 09 22:22:19 Umeaboy, for a developer : screwdriver, for you : wait a bit and google. May 09 22:23:02 OK. May 09 22:23:14 Anywhere else that I can ask? May 09 22:24:23 Umeaboy, there are adaptors for usb/RS-232 however it must have a ttyUSB0 up and i doubt that. only channels who may know something are probably related to embedded. May 09 22:27:51 Umeaboy, i thought already about USB, but it's rather unlikely to find something interresting ( because it can play from external hdd, the OS is configured as host and has ehci/usb-storage i doubt it has relevant gadgets) May 09 22:28:18 Right. May 09 22:37:39 Umeaboy, inside is probably a connector/spare for JTAG but that is not recommented as long as you are not handy with certain details. May 09 23:02:32 I've managed to screw it open. May 09 23:02:57 lautriv: ^^ May 09 23:03:28 Just have to check that I can easily disconnect the cable from the front side without breaking something. May 09 23:05:25 Umeaboy, flat, prob. white thingie ? May 09 23:15:00 Yes. May 09 23:17:34 Umeaboy, those are usually locked (side on PCB, small plastic-parts beside, pull a bit in direction to the open side, where the flat white thingie sticks in. it looks a bit like a large T ) May 10 00:01:41 Umeaboy fellt asleep ;) May 10 00:03:33 OK. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 10 03:00:03 2012