**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 10 02:59:58 2012 Jul 10 09:49:58 morning all Jul 10 10:29:13 hi, all! Jul 10 10:30:13 does enabling device tree support in my kernel will break my "non-OF compliant" board? Jul 10 10:41:58 slapin: try and you'll know; without knowing your system it is extremely hard to tell Jul 10 10:42:02 Hi JaMa Jul 10 10:42:53 slapin: why it should break your non-of board? Jul 10 10:44:44 hi eFfeM_work Jul 10 10:45:51 anarsoul_ slapin it will not physically break the board, just don't run (which you could consider as breaking) Jul 10 11:14:36 I just want to convert it step-by-step, will just enabling CONFIG_OF stop it from working? Jul 10 11:15:34 also, what is correct way now to build kernel for ATAG-based boot loader to boot? Jul 10 11:17:36 slapin: what's your platform btw? Jul 10 11:18:32 anarsoul_: at91 and s3c24xx Jul 10 11:38:03 I see Jul 10 11:38:36 still need to test if recent kernel still works with my s3c24xx-based PDAs :) Jul 10 12:20:41 anarsoul_: when you find out, let me know and I can update meta-handheld Jul 10 12:20:44 thx :) Jul 10 12:21:12 bluelightning: ok :) Jul 10 12:21:48 bluelightning: you're interested in 3.4, right? Jul 10 12:22:01 anarsoul_: yes, if it works, definitely Jul 10 14:13:08 bluelightning: is there a chance that changesets which switch qemuarmv7 to use Versatile Express emulation would get merged? Jul 10 14:13:42 hrw: not sure, not really my area I'm afraid Jul 10 14:13:43 bluelightning: pros: 1GB ram support, may use a9/a8/a15 support Jul 10 14:13:45 ok Jul 10 14:22:36 hrw: in OE core least common denomitor of qemu is chosen Jul 10 14:22:40 for widest coverage Jul 10 14:23:01 e.g. for x86 it does not use any of fancy core emulations Jul 10 14:23:02 khem: Versatile Express is supported by OE qemu Jul 10 14:23:24 hrw. I know, the idea I had was to create a layer for extra qemu machines Jul 10 14:23:27 Versatile PB which is used now limits to 256MB ram Jul 10 14:23:34 yes Jul 10 14:23:55 khem: anyway meta-linaro has qemuarmv7a defaulting to vexpress - have to fix config a bit Jul 10 14:24:15 hrw: yes and having it in common layer would be nice Jul 10 14:24:29 like i want qemumips64 and qemush4 in there as well Jul 10 14:24:37 but they wont be supported in OE-Core Jul 10 14:25:43 ok Jul 10 14:27:08 khem: I will keep meta-linaro one even if it will be in other layer - I already have 4 layers for my builds (or 3 + one rm) Jul 10 14:27:34 btw - is there a way to make Bitbake skip bbappend which do not have anything to append? Jul 10 14:27:59 yes, something to layer.conf IIRC Jul 10 14:28:25 I need to read doc about it Jul 10 14:28:38 cause would be great to have thing like 'required layers' there Jul 10 14:28:55 hrw: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2012-June/039994.html Jul 10 14:29:47 thanks! Jul 10 14:37:59 morning all Jul 10 14:38:17 hrw: set BB_DANGLINGAPPENDS_WARNONLY Jul 10 14:38:35 khem: added Jul 10 14:38:39 hi pb_ Jul 10 14:42:52 ~curse linux-yocto defconfig stuff Jul 10 14:42:52 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, linux-yocto defconfig stuff ! Jul 10 14:46:55 years ago it was much easier ;) Jul 10 14:47:18 now finding out why devtmpfs is disabled requires reading of lot of files Jul 10 15:09:08 1KERNEL_FEATURES_append_qemuarmv7a = " cfg/fs/devtmpfs cfg/smp cfg/virtio cfg/timer/no_hz" Jul 10 15:09:14 s/^1// Jul 10 15:09:22 is it proper oe-core way? Jul 10 15:28:15 hrw: are you talking to awafaa at all, it sounds like he's working on the same thing as you Jul 10 15:29:09 bluelightning: so far I was talking with him about fixing meta-linaro issues and docs Jul 10 15:37:53 is there a way to tell to linux-yocto things like KERNEL_CONFIG_IS_FINE_THANKS_SO_DO_NOT_PLAY_WITH_IT = "1"? Jul 10 15:39:19 I am more and more convinced to just drop kernel and use linux-dummy ;) Jul 10 15:40:16 hrw: it could be that linux-yocto-custom is closer to what you want Jul 10 15:41:56 bluelightning: I tried to understand how to use KERNEL_FEATURES but wasted too much time on it Jul 10 15:42:09 bitbake virtual/kernel -e|grep ^KERNEL Jul 10 15:42:15 KERNEL_FEATURES="features/netfilter cfg/fs/devtmpfs" Jul 10 15:42:26 and resulting .config has devtmpfs off Jul 10 15:42:51 hrw: I don't know much about it, but it is supposed to be fully documented in the yocto docs Jul 10 15:47:02 anyway time to write blog post finally Jul 10 16:09:50 http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2012/07/10/openembedded-again/ Jul 10 16:11:57 hrw, copy linux-yocto-custom Jul 10 16:14:34 Crofton|work: will have to Jul 10 16:14:53 Crofton|work: but not today - enough of oe kernels for at least one day Jul 10 16:18:28 heh Jul 10 16:19:29 it seems a change on kernel class broke kernel packaging ...: Jul 10 16:19:30 RROR: QA Issue: Architecture did not match (40 to 62) on /work/imx53qsb-poky-linux-g Jul 10 16:19:30 nueabi/linux-imx-2.6.35.3-r30/packages-split/kernel-dev/usr/src/kernel/scripts/kconfi Jul 10 16:19:33 g/kxgettext.o Jul 10 16:21:07 any clue? Jul 10 16:23:34 have a nice rest of day Jul 10 20:11:21 oe-core build failure Jul 10 20:11:23 | ./arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv7-a -fno-tree-vectorize -mthumb-interwork -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfpu=neon -mtune=cortex-a9 --sysroot=/home/balister/src/oe-core/build/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/zynq-zc702 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -DLTDLOPEN=libltdl -DLT_CONFIG_H='' -DLTDL -I. -I. -Ilibltdl -I./libltdl -I./libltdl/libltdl -O2 -pipe -g -feliminate-unused-debug Jul 10 20:11:23 -types -c -o libltdl/libltdl_libltdl_la-slist.lo `test -f 'libltdl/slist.c' || echo './'`libltdl/slist.c Jul 10 20:11:23 | /bin/sh: ./arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-libtool: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy Jul 11 01:19:02 Does the term native refer to the target system (the one your crossing compiling for), build system or the system you are developing on that you might need the libs and headers to cross compile an application for the target system. An example would be STAGING_BINDIR, STAGING_BINDIR_CROSS and STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE Jul 11 01:21:23 think of native versus target... Jul 11 01:23:31 So then my next question is what is the difference between BINDIR and BINDIR_NATIVE? Jul 11 01:27:23 bindir_native - where your cross dev bin tools live, bindir is what you are populating Jul 11 01:29:07 and plan to copy to your target device Jul 11 01:29:51 I would think you would copy what is contained in bindir_cross to the target Jul 11 01:31:19 that can be true also, depends on your cross compile environment on your development machine. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 11 02:59:58 2012