**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 26 02:59:58 2012 Nov 26 08:16:19 good morning Nov 26 08:16:44 is the mailing list server working properly ? I sent patches yesterday and they don't appear on the ML nor in the archive nor in patchwork Nov 26 08:36:21 good morning Nov 26 08:36:28 hi mckoan Nov 26 08:37:42 ericben: how is your backache? Nov 26 08:38:59 mckoan: bones are back in place since last wednesday, now I need specific muscle training to prevent them to move again ... Nov 26 08:39:58 that's what happen when someone believe he has 10 year less than in the reality and starts training to hard for sport in a short time ;-) Nov 26 08:40:45 ericben: gosh! which sport? Nov 26 08:41:44 that was after a big interval training in running ... 10 days before the goal :-( Nov 26 08:44:47 ericben: wow, I like running too, but I usually do only 10km Nov 26 08:46:23 ericben: I wish you a fast recovery Nov 26 08:46:29 mckoan: this was for a 10k also but during this training I was feeling so good that I didn't respect the pace I had to do and went to fast ... Nov 26 08:47:50 mckoan: that's on the good way now, I'm cycling and found a good osteopath so I expect to be able to run again in january. Until that I have more time for OE ;-) Nov 26 08:48:28 florian: hi, are you aware of a problem with the list' server ? Nov 26 08:49:49 ericben: nope... oh well, it is monday today... Nov 26 08:49:57 good morning btw. Nov 26 08:50:09 mornig all Nov 26 08:50:53 florian: I sent several patches yesterday and they still are not on the ML nor on the archive. Nov 26 08:51:17 ericben: yep... looks like we ran out of disk space Nov 26 08:51:32 florian: globally I have a lot of delay when sending patches/mails, it takes several hours between the smtp and the linuxtogo server. Nov 26 09:18:43 ericben: hrm nasty... I wonder what might be guilty for that Nov 26 09:19:00 But the list should be back now Nov 26 09:32:52 florian: thanks Nov 26 09:38:17 morning all Nov 26 09:40:08 morning afournier Nov 26 10:01:25 ericben: thanks for webserver updates - building them Nov 26 10:02:15 morning all btw Nov 26 10:02:22 hi hrw Nov 26 10:07:28 florian: http://planet.linuxtogo.org/ just shows an empty page. Nov 26 10:07:44 hrw: hi, all the upgraded are tested on an armv5 target (apache2+modphp+mysql+php website / hiawatha+php-cgi+mysql / daemon using php-cli / and a quick try with php-cgi + sqlite3) Nov 26 10:08:00 ericben: doing build for armv8 Nov 26 10:08:08 ericben: php/mysqli segfaults there Nov 26 10:08:18 * hrw -> out Nov 26 10:08:22 hrw: interesting Nov 26 10:08:26 PaulePanter: ah right, that's likely to be caused by the disk as well.. one sec Nov 26 10:08:33 ericben: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-oe/+bug/1081591 Nov 26 10:10:30 hrw: from memory I tested apache2+modphp+mysqli on the armv5 using this http://playsms.org and that was working Nov 26 10:11:30 but I switched to hiawatha+php-fcgi as we had OOM on this target with apache2+modphp+mysql+ a studi php-cli daemon and only 64MB of RAM ... Nov 26 10:14:13 florian: Works again. Thanks! Nov 26 10:14:35 PaulePanter: yw Nov 26 10:15:19 morning all Nov 26 10:15:56 morning bluelightning Nov 26 10:21:36 morning bluelightning Nov 26 10:29:06 ericben: use php-fpm maybe? Nov 26 10:36:28 hrw: migrating from apache2+modphp to hiawatha+php-fcgi was quite fast and the solution is really efficient in the end. I don't need a big beast like apache in this project. I wish I could also remove mysql but the php software I'm now using for the SMS part don't seem to work well with sqlite at the moment so this switch may come later (with around 20MB of RAM saving ...). Nov 26 10:37:08 ericben: thanks for your patches! Nov 26 10:39:20 bluelightning: next one will provide : http://kalkun.sourceforge.net/ Nov 26 10:39:42 ericben: seriously consider php-fpm instead of php-cgi Nov 26 10:40:14 bluelightning: but I still have an issue in pkgpostinst: I need to create a mysql database but I didn't found a good way to have mysql poistinstall script running _before_ kalkun's one so it actually fails at first start. Nov 26 10:40:41 hrw: I'll look at it. Do we have php-fpm in meta-oe ? Nov 26 10:40:45 ericben: no Nov 26 10:41:03 ericben: for sysvinit you can try with higher numbers for kalkun Nov 26 10:42:13 hrw: yes but the problem here is nont in sysvinit, it's in pkg_postinst as kalkun is a php website and doesn't have a initscript. But you are right, the workaround I'm using actually consists of an initscript that create the database if it doesn't exist. Nov 26 10:43:43 ericben: add "kalkun-initialization" package which will do just that Nov 26 10:43:57 ericben: so once initialized it can be removed Nov 26 10:44:45 hrw: good idea, thanks. Now looking at php-fpm ;-) Nov 26 10:45:57 ericben: good sides of php-fpm are: 1. cgi interface, 2. it is a daemon so faster response time Nov 26 10:46:47 hrw: I saw that. In fact that's what hiawatha php-fcgi is doing : http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/manpages/php-fcgi but on the 3rd line they say : "Warning, this tool is deprecated. Use php-fpm instead. " so I'll listen you and them ;-) Nov 26 10:47:35 ericben: Indeed, Hiawatha is very small, fast and fairly mature webserver Nov 26 10:48:03 ericben: I have been using it for years with good success Nov 26 10:49:30 jackmitchell: I was using nostromo : http://www.nazgul.ch/dev_nostromo.html http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-extended/nostromo Nov 26 10:49:41 this reminds me to cook a patch to move nostromo in meta-webserver Nov 26 10:49:42 I still use lighttpd Nov 26 10:50:32 but now I think hiawatha is worth a look for simple configurations. Especially as it seems to have optimized and compact ssl capabilities. Nov 26 10:51:37 ericben: http://tygrysek.juszkiewicz.com.pl/~hrw/oe/ may interest you as well Nov 26 10:51:55 ericben: 5.4.4 php (works as 5.4.8 as well) Nov 26 10:52:07 ericben: but fails to build for armv8 due to linker issues Nov 26 10:54:47 ericben: yes it recently switched to PolarSSL with some fairly hefty benefits I seem to remember (mostly pertaining to speed, size and complexity) Nov 26 10:58:38 hrw: OK will look at it. Merging php & modphp seems a good thing. bluelightning : would you accept such a patch ? Nov 26 10:59:08 ericben: it's definitely something I want to see happen, but it has to be done carefully Nov 26 10:59:54 last I checked the recipes are configuring PHP fairly differently :/ Nov 26 11:00:42 bluelightning: true Nov 26 11:02:49 ericben: on armv8 5.1.66 mysql crashes on start Nov 26 11:03:12 hrw: did you already have this behaviour before ? Nov 26 11:03:22 5.1.40 worked Nov 26 11:03:40 interesting Nov 26 11:04:12 restarting helped Nov 26 11:04:57 phpinfo() works Nov 26 11:06:34 ok, it is not php/mysqli what crashes but apache itself Nov 26 11:08:04 hrw: is it with apache 2.4.3 ? Nov 26 11:08:24 yes, but was with 2.4.2 as well Nov 26 11:10:14 ok so no regression on this side ;) Nov 26 11:10:35 armv8 has some issues still Nov 26 11:11:08 IMAGE_FEATURES += "pkg-debug" adds dbg files or other? Nov 26 11:14:12 not using that so no idea at the moment Nov 26 11:31:37 found an other strange thing in php.inc : I have /etc/etc/pear.conf instead of /etc/pear.conf because of mv ${D}/${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}/${sysconfdir} ${D}/${sysconfdir} ... which will move etc into etc is ${D}/${sysconfdir} exists. Fixing it now. What is strange is that I didn't have an error before enabling fpm. Nov 26 11:31:53 as fpm seems to install something in etc thus now etc exists before the mv Nov 26 11:47:16 hrw: dbg-pkgs Nov 26 11:47:28 thx Nov 26 12:56:51 Hi, I'm trying to compile xbmc for the FRI2 but I get the following error when configuring: Nov 26 12:57:04 xbmc-11.0-r14+gitr1+82388d55dae79cbb2e486e307e23202e76a43efa/git/conftest.c:105: undefined reference to `pow' Nov 26 12:57:37 I'm not sure if it is related to poky or oe yet but the recipe is coming from meta-openembedded Nov 26 12:57:58 any insight ? Nov 26 12:58:06 abelloni: you need -lm to link Nov 26 13:05:18 oh, I went to far up in the log, actually, it is not finding -lEGL ... Nov 26 13:05:58 so I guess I need to figure out why it is not getting installed by the binary driver Nov 26 13:06:26 pow is in libm so you may have 2 problems (or your flags are overriden somewhere) Nov 26 13:08:31 koen was having a lot of issues building XBMC for the FRI2 board Nov 26 13:08:54 I think he resorted to actually building on target in the end Nov 26 13:15:43 ericben: pow doesn't seem to be the real issue Nov 26 13:16:31 tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/libexec/core2-poky-linux/gcc/i586-poky-linux/4.7.2/ld: cannot find -lEGL is Nov 26 13:21:47 abelloni: as I said you have 2 issues : 1st : git/conftest.c:105: undefined reference to `pow' : solved by -lm ; 2nd: lEGL problem Nov 26 13:25:38 abelloni: of course if conftest is not used and non blocking for the build the pow error may not be critical but you could solve it by linking with -lm Nov 26 13:40:46 hrw: ok php-fpm is running on my board. No idea if I save some ram or cpu but that works fine. Patch is following Nov 26 14:05:15 Does bitbake get dependency information out of a autotools tarbal? Nov 26 14:07:19 Or should i manually add the dependency in the .bb recipe? Nov 26 14:15:08 AppleJuice: you need to add them manually Nov 26 14:15:24 systemd-systemctl-native fails here to build due to a fetch issue ('-native' seems to be stripped from search path). Is this a known issue? Nov 26 14:16:09 the fetch error is not detected either but the last element in the search path is copied recursively instead Nov 26 14:17:50 thanks, ericben. Nov 26 14:21:48 last problem was caused by 07b5f84133ac79aac4e939ea5f24390ad7f940a5 bitbake commit Nov 26 14:21:50 + if not newpath or not os.path.exists(newpath) and path.find("*") != -1: Nov 26 14:36:21 ensc|w: I think ${PN} needs to be added to the search path manually now in latest master (the default is to only add ${BPN} now since that's what most recipes need) Nov 26 15:33:05 any idea why London Moscow Paris are in tzdata and not in tzdata-europe ? Is that a wanted behaviour or are these city just forgotten from tzdata-europe ?(same thing for cairo in Africa, Anchorage Chicago Los_Angeles Sao_Paulo Caracas Denver New_York in America, Adelaide Brisbane Darwin Sydney in Australia, Dhaka Dubai Hong_Kong Karachi Tokyo in Asia and Honolulu Noumea in Pacific Nov 26 15:34:33 recipe says "Packages primarily organized by directory with a major city in most time zones in the base package" so this seems to a be a feature Nov 26 16:11:31 hi all Nov 26 16:15:38 hi pb_ Nov 26 17:08:03 is there any layer with recipes for postfix and cyrus-sasl ? Nov 26 17:09:04 it seems there was some recipes in openembedded classic Nov 26 17:15:46 abelloni: doesn't look like it Nov 26 17:16:09 morning Nov 26 17:17:23 abelloni: there's a cyrus-sasl recipe in meta-kde apparently Nov 26 17:17:43 not really the ideal place for it... Nov 26 17:17:48 levonmaa: Hi Nov 26 17:17:58 Did you got any further with Qt5? Nov 26 17:59:27 i can't seem to find any good documentation on how to create a distribution from scratch, am I missing something ? Nov 26 18:09:27 hum, while building xbmc, it is trying to use TexturePacker which seems to have been compiled for the target Nov 26 18:10:31 Hi all, can you help me with this issue, I try to rebuild a system inside a chroot. Nov 26 18:10:31 i almost succeeded but the boot sequence stops after completion without droping me to a shell Nov 26 18:10:31 how can i reach it? Nov 26 18:11:17 re Nov 26 18:13:49 florian: Francais? Nov 26 18:14:39 Nolaan: nope, sorry Nov 26 18:15:54 florian: how can i install a proper file hierarchy Nov 26 18:16:13 I mean populate /dev /proc Nov 26 18:16:59 Nolaan: dev ususllygets populated by udev, proc is a procfs that needs to get mounted Nov 26 18:18:12 this problem is interesting: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2012-November/012901.html Nov 26 18:18:33 Nolaan: do you have a SERIAL_CONSOLE variable set for your machine ? you can pastebin your image recipe for help. Nov 26 18:19:46 I first thought that the package in question is not added as dependency anywhere in the image, however since IMAGE_INSTALL_append is used, image.bbclass should RDEPEND on any package that is going to be installed. So, trace-cmd should have been built before image creation process. Any ideas? Nov 26 18:20:15 from image.bbclass: RDEPENDS += "${IMAGE_INSTALL} ${LINGUAS_INSTALL} ${NORMAL_FEATURE_INSTALL} ${ROOTFS_BOOTSTRAP_INSTALL}" Nov 26 18:20:19 strange Nov 26 18:20:23 eren: what is the result of bitbake -e image ? Nov 26 18:20:48 ericben: well, I'm not the guy who wrote on a mailing list :( Nov 26 18:21:23 I was just thinking about what the problem may be Nov 26 18:21:35 well in this case we know nothing about the configuration, the layers enabled, the targt machine so it's quite hard to say. Nov 26 18:21:55 ericben: have you seen the second mail, btw? Nov 26 18:22:07 https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2012-November/012916.html Nov 26 18:22:53 "or I'm the only one who Nov 26 18:22:55 wants to add packages to an image after a full build" Nov 26 18:25:20 florian: Is it the same with systemd? Nov 26 18:25:43 actually i'm running an experiment and searching for knowledge Nov 26 18:25:51 eren: what do you mean by "wants to add packages to an image after a full build" ? Nov 26 18:26:24 clearly, trace-cmd was not built, and the guy just attempted to IMAGE_INSTALL_append = 'trace-cmd'. I guess he expected bitbake to build the missing packages after a full build and create an image. Nov 26 18:27:49 ericben: I guess his workflow is: build an image with some set of packages, after it has been build, decide to add another package to image. Set IMAGE_INSTALL_append = 'mypackage' and do "bitbake " Nov 26 18:28:26 so, since mypackage has not been built, it cannot be added to image Nov 26 18:30:27 eren: here I'm also doing that but with IMAGE_INSTALL += and that works fine. Will test with _append Nov 26 18:34:48 however, since image.bbclass will set RDEPENDS for "mypackage" as well, it should have been gone fine Nov 26 18:34:50 strange Nov 26 18:35:16 Nolaan: yes.. in fact I'm not sure if systemd should take care of these tasks on its own. Nov 26 18:37:27 eren: I think the issue might be _append with no leading space in the string to be appended Nov 26 18:37:44 eren: _append does not add a leading space for you, whereas += does Nov 26 18:38:05 eren: just tried on a custom image, after adding IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " trace-cmd" to local.conf then bitbake the image and that works fine here, trace-cmd is fetched and built and built into the image in one shot as expected. Nov 26 18:39:14 bluelightning: in fact he said in the email that he took care of the space so I believe that's just a typing error else I thik the package name would not be correct Nov 26 18:39:45 true, you would expect an error if that was the problem Nov 26 18:39:54 not a typing error : the space is there but there is also a crriage return Nov 26 18:41:17 ericben: I guess the trailing space is from email word wrapping Nov 26 18:41:53 eren: yes, that's what I was trying to say without being clear ;-) Nov 26 18:45:09 ericben: would it be a problem if I reference your nick on e-mail? I'm sending a response to him. It would be better to include his (whatever it is) file and changed files :) Nov 26 18:52:00 eren: no problem you can even copy me my email is here http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/39621/ Nov 26 18:53:08 ericben: okkie Nov 26 18:59:51 wha tis the way to dynamically split pakages Nov 26 19:00:06 we are futzing with the gnuradio packaging Nov 26 19:02:40 Crofton: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Handling_optional_module_packaging Nov 26 19:03:12 Scott has adapted that for the manual for the next version Nov 26 19:04:59 thanks Nov 26 19:05:18 gnuradio makes a billion .so files Nov 26 19:05:33 oh, are you working on gnuradio? Nov 26 19:05:38 and we would like to automagically package them individually Nov 26 19:05:41 yeah Nov 26 19:05:46 great! :) Nov 26 19:06:51 is libspeex packaged? Nov 26 19:07:31 eren: find sources/ -iname *speex*bb -> sources/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-multimedia/speex/speex_1.2rc1.bb Nov 26 19:08:06 oh, thank you Nov 26 19:08:59 I'm thinking of creating meta-hamradio, libspeex will be required for a repeater controller application Nov 26 19:09:58 any suggestions, contributions are welcomed (especially from hamradio operators) :) Nov 26 19:10:49 eren: pidge (Beth) is a ham enthusiast, she's talked about creating a hamradio layer in the past Nov 26 19:12:28 we're thinking about adding functionality to package LICENSE files (referenced by LIC_FILES_CHKSUM) to PN (${datadir}/licenses/${PN}/file), probably reusing some code from license.bbclass Nov 26 19:13:07 I have a question about the recipe for e2fsprogs. If this is the wrong channel, I apologize. Just let me know where I should ask this question. Why does the recipe change the permissions of everything in the work directory during the do_compile_prepend step? Nov 26 19:13:20 does something like this already exist or does it look usefull for someone else too, so it could be integrated with license.bbclass and controlled by some variable? (per package or by distro config) Nov 26 19:13:54 bluelightning: oh, nice. I guess she's not on irc right now. Maybe I should send an email just to let her know my ideas Nov 26 19:14:36 eren: sounds like a good idea Nov 26 19:16:08 JaMa: I've certainly thought about it... probably worth emailing the list about it and CC Beth since she implemented much of license.bbclass Nov 26 19:18:31 otavio: not really... Nov 26 19:18:49 having problems in getting it actually installed into the target... Nov 26 19:19:04 now everything seems to end up in the native side Nov 26 19:22:05 levonmaa: yes Nov 26 19:22:13 levonmaa: native needs fixing Nov 26 19:22:25 oh... Nov 26 19:22:43 I thought that is was because of the qtbase* stuff Nov 26 19:22:58 and not the native parts... Nov 26 19:24:57 otavio: I fail to see how the native recipe controls where the stuff get installed as we provide overrides... Nov 26 19:26:54 levonmaa: Did you fix the moc/etc calling during build? Nov 26 19:31:54 otavio: tp me it looks ok as the logs show direct calls to moc and I have assumed that the moc is found from the native path Nov 26 19:32:09 s/tp/to Nov 26 19:32:17 The easier way of checking it is to build it for arm Nov 26 19:32:23 so it will fail Nov 26 19:32:25 otherwise Nov 26 19:32:29 true Nov 26 19:33:39 levonmaa: work on this using x86 is waste of time as it doesn't show the problems Nov 26 19:34:42 otavio: runninga build on arm now Nov 26 19:43:42 levonmaa: very good; I am curious about what you'll get from it Nov 26 19:44:30 otavio: you and me both ;) Nov 26 22:10:46 JaMa|Off: I think that email didn't get CC'd properly Nov 26 22:12:16 otavio: you were right, still uses the one from the target src tree... Nov 27 00:54:31 fftw is in oe-core Nov 27 00:54:33 ? Nov 27 02:06:03 Is it possible to disable the debian-style renaming of packages/ipks? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 27 02:59:58 2012