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Apr 01 12:03:15 <woglinde> hm which ui's bitbake has now?
Apr 01 12:03:39 <woglinde> and which one is for console
Apr 01 12:15:04 <Crofton|work> every one is still on holiay I suppose
Apr 01 12:15:17 <bluelightning> woglinde: knotty is the console UI
Apr 01 12:38:20 <dv_> suppose you have one component that you want to write a recipe for. but these component shall be used on several BSPs. would it be reasonable to create a layer with just one recipe?
Apr 01 12:45:32 <Crofton|work> dv_, can the recipe find a home in an existing layer?
Apr 01 12:45:48 <dv_> no, it is for experimental software
Apr 01 12:45:58 <dv_> the recipe shall make it easier to test it
Apr 01 12:46:11 <dv_> eventually it will be production ready, it can then be merged elsewhere
Apr 01 12:46:32 <Crofton|work> then keep it in a private layer I guess
Apr 01 12:46:39 <dv_> alright
Apr 01 12:47:30 <dv_> on a related note, where shall I announce a new bsp layer? in the mailing list? or first here?
Apr 01 12:47:54 <bluelightning> dv_: the mailing list, but please also submit it at http://layers.openembedded.org
Apr 01 12:48:31 <dv_> okay, submissions will be reviewed I guess?
Apr 01 12:48:55 <bluelightning> only really that the fields have been filled in, we don't really look at the content
Apr 01 12:54:21 <dv_> my layer is on github. is it enough to put the github project web page URL into the Repository web interface URL field?
Apr 01 12:55:30 <Crofton|work> should be
Apr 01 12:55:35 <dv_> because the "Usage web page URL" would actually be the same, since github shows the readme in the front page anyway
Apr 01 12:56:04 <dv_> well anyway. submitted.
Apr 01 12:56:11 <bluelightning> dv_: if you put in the repo URL the rest of the fields should be filled in automatically
Apr 01 12:56:24 <dv_> oh? they didnt
Apr 01 12:56:54 <bluelightning> hmm
Apr 01 12:56:56 <dv_> ah no, they did. 
Apr 01 12:58:48 <bluelightning> dv_: I've fixed up those fields and published it
Apr 01 12:58:53 <dv_> thanks
Apr 01 12:59:14 <bluelightning> dv_: do you have javascript disabled in your browser?
Apr 01 12:59:27 <dv_> no, but ghostery is enabled. perhaps it screwed up something
Apr 01 12:59:37 <bluelightning> hmm ok
Apr 01 12:59:44 <bluelightning> not to worry
Apr 01 12:59:52 <dv_> it does cause problems on the freescale community page for instance
Apr 01 13:46:34 <woglinde> re
Apr 01 13:47:00 <woglinde> bluelightning hm is there a modus which is more logging friendly e.g for jenkins
Apr 01 13:47:34 <bluelightning> woglinde: knotty will automatically change to serial output when the output is not a terminal
Apr 01 13:48:05 <woglinde> ah so I should run the ssh without pty support
Apr 01 13:48:44 <bluelightning> that may do it yes
Apr 01 13:52:04 <Crofton|work> the part of the sdk that runs on the machine you are tunnin gon is called the host right?
Apr 01 13:52:21 <woglinde> args
Apr 01 13:52:30 <woglinde> coreutils broken again for uclibc
Apr 01 13:52:49 <woglinde> ./lib/sys/time.h:398:1: note: previous declaration of 'rpl_gettimeofday' was here
Apr 01 13:55:54 <Crofton|work> gah
Apr 01 13:57:12 <woglinde> crofton yes?
Apr 01 13:57:48 <Crofton|work> yeah
Apr 01 13:57:51 <Crofton|work> I looked it up
Apr 01 13:57:57 <woglinde> what?
Apr 01 14:46:46 <woglinde_> hm why the hell latest bitbake reruns do_fetch so much
Apr 01 15:20:32 <jkroon> Can OpenEmbedded create SDK's for deployment in a Win32 environment ? I've seen some canadian-cross recipes in oe-core, but I wouldn't what variables to set in order to build a cross-compiler that runs on Windows, either via cygwin or mingw..
Apr 01 15:20:53 <apelete> bluelightning: hi
Apr 01 15:21:33 <bluelightning> jkroon: not sure, but there were mingw recipes in OE-Classic, presumably they could be brought up-to-date
Apr 01 15:21:39 <bluelightning> apelete: hi
Apr 01 15:21:42 <apelete> I sent a couple of patches on the mailing list regarding the work on meta-jlime
Apr 01 15:21:54 <bluelightning> apelete: indeed, I saw them
Apr 01 15:22:23 <apelete> I wasn't sure if it was the right time because meta-jlime is currently a work in progress
Apr 01 15:22:33 <bluelightning> apelete: btw though I think we would rather have the kernel for the nanonote in meta-handheld as well
Apr 01 15:22:42 <bluelightning> apelete: ideally the BSP and the distro should be independent
Apr 01 15:24:11 <apelete> bluelightning: I think I put the nanonote kernel recipe in there too
Apr 01 15:24:52 <apelete> bluelightning: http://seketeli.fr/git/~apelete/meta-handheld.git/commit/?h=add-nanonote&id=6424e4dc4be4920fd0729ff0dcbc3f1b4b6b4485
Apr 01 15:25:53 <bluelightning> apelete: oh so you did... clearly I wasn't fully awake when I read it, sorry...
Apr 01 15:26:44 <bluelightning> apelete: do you mind if I squash those two changes down to one? typically we add things from OE-Classic with one commit rather than add and then change
Apr 01 15:27:13 <apelete> bluelightning: no problem, go one with the sqUashing.
Apr 01 15:27:17 <apelete>  so, is it okay if I keep sending patches to the mailing list if I need something to be applied in a existing layer
Apr 01 15:27:24 <apelete> ?
Apr 01 15:27:57 <apelete> like I did for the machine configuration and ttf-font this morning ?
Apr 01 15:28:21 <bluelightning> apelete: sure
Apr 01 15:31:17 <apelete> bluelightning: nice. thanks for the new layer index website btw (http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/layerindex-web/), I'm already using it to decide if I should import a new recipe or use the one already available in other layer. it's great.
Apr 01 15:31:56 <bluelightning> apelete: you're welcome :)
Apr 01 15:32:38 <bluelightning> (that's just the source of course, the live instance is at http://layers.openembedded.org/)
Apr 01 15:33:37 <apelete> yes, of course (I pasted the wrong link)
Apr 01 15:36:40 <woglinde> khem ping
Apr 01 17:38:28 <jkroon> when no packages need rebuilding, can I prevent my core image from being regenerated each time I bitbake it ?
Apr 01 18:39:00 <mario-goulart> Hi.  Has anybody packaged system-config-printer?
Apr 01 18:39:58 <woglinde> why one need this on an embedded device
Apr 01 18:42:33 <mario-goulart> To configure printers.
Apr 01 18:43:15 <woglinde> why not use the cups web interface?
Apr 01 18:43:49 <mario-goulart> That's not very end-user friendly.
Apr 01 19:07:54 <Crofton|work> likewise, ping
Apr 01 20:23:49 <bluelightning> mario-goulart: there's a recipe in OE-Classic you could bring up-to-date
Apr 01 20:26:11 <mario-goulart> bluelightning: thanks.
Apr 01 20:31:00 <woglinde> bluelightning why is bitbake master rebuildung so many task
Apr 01 20:31:33 <woglinde> do_package_setsecene for instance
Apr 01 20:33:13 <mario-goulart> FILES_${PN} = "" # we're not going to support it for now
Apr 01 20:33:15 <mario-goulart> Does ^ mean that the OE-Classic recipe for system-config-printer was just a placeholder?
Apr 01 20:33:55 <bluelightning> mario-goulart: not sure, I hadn't looked at the recipe, just saw it existed
Apr 01 20:34:28 <bluelightning> woglinde: running setscene tasks isn't rebuilding, that's extracting from sstate
Apr 01 20:34:35 <mario-goulart> Alright.  Thanks anyway, bluelightning.
Apr 01 20:36:44 <woglinde> bluelightning so its a new feature
Apr 01 20:39:22 <bluelightning> woglinde: er, setscene tasks? no
Apr 01 20:41:01 <woglinde> no
Apr 01 20:41:18 <woglinde> but that bitbake master reruns them at every call
Apr 01 20:41:46 <kergoth> doesn't do that for me with poky master at least, *shrug*
Apr 01 21:03:01 <bluelightning> woglinde: setscene tasks will run when there is no stamp for the task but an sstate package exists for the task
Apr 01 21:04:40 <woglinde> hm removed whole build dir and rerunning it from scratch now
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