**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 20 02:59:59 2013 May 20 08:28:44 morning all May 20 08:44:48 morning silvio_, all May 20 09:23:40 hi all May 20 09:33:34 hi pb_ May 20 09:45:44 good morning May 20 09:48:33 hi mckoan May 20 13:37:27 which package name is needed in core-image-minimal to add libc ? May 20 13:40:32 if I cross-compile a helloworld it doesn't find libc.so.6 in the fs, I expected it by default in every image May 20 13:41:00 helloworld doesn't find libc.so.6 at runtime in the target of course May 20 13:55:45 mckoan: something is very wrong there... how would the system start without eglibc? May 20 13:55:52 assuming you're not using a different libc that is May 20 14:00:09 bluelightning: it surprised even me May 20 14:00:42 bluelightning: I'm doing a triple-check May 20 14:35:50 bluelightning: I migrated to Dylan 1.4 and it works, apologize the noise ;-) May 20 14:36:04 mckoan: ok, good that it's resolved anyway May 20 15:48:07 is is possible to reduce the side of qt4e-demo-image? removing demo and examples would be enough? May 20 15:49:39 mckoan: certainly, just create a copy of the image and packagegroup-core-qt4e and modify as desired May 20 15:50:51 bluelightning: weird, I get the same size May 20 15:51:35 mckoan: actually, that packagegroup probably needs a bit of work May 20 15:51:55 mckoan: it pulls in qt4-embedded which pulls in all of Qt 4 May 20 15:52:09 so the rest of the Qt packages listed don't do anything May 20 15:54:28 bluelightning: I reduced RDEPENDS_${PN} in packagegroup-core-qt4e May 20 15:54:44 mckoan: but did you also remove qt4-embedded? May 20 15:54:57 mckoan: with that still there it won't matter which qt packages you remove May 20 15:55:09 bluelightning: no, only qt4-embedded-demos and examples May 20 15:56:24 bluelightning: looks like qt4-embedded.inc is my friend :-D May 20 15:56:58 mckoan: ? May 20 15:57:16 is it possible to remove a RRECOMMENDS in a image.bb ? May 20 15:57:37 if that RRECOMMENDS is set at a deeper level? May 20 15:58:36 * mckoan needs a pause May 20 15:58:51 yes, you can make it a BAD_RECOMMENDATION May 20 15:59:04 pb_: except that only works for ipk May 20 15:59:10 mckoan: why do you need to do that? May 20 16:00:02 bluelightning: nevermind, sorry May 20 16:00:13 ah, yes, fair enough. if you are an rpm user then you should patch your package manager to support that feature and then use it. May 20 16:00:45 there's a bug open for that at least May 20 16:00:50 against me, I think May 20 16:00:55 heh May 20 16:01:11 (it's not rpm that needs patching, FWIW, it's smart) May 20 16:06:32 have a nice resto of the day May 20 18:03:50 cbrake: ping May 20 18:08:15 tasslehoff: hi May 20 18:10:29 cbrake: hi. I'm trying to throw out connman from my rootfs, and koen said you had some useful udev stuff for handling network. May 20 18:10:56 is that stuff indeed useful, and is it available? :) May 20 18:15:35 tasslehoff: sure, let me find it May 20 18:16:18 tasslehoff: stuff I did is fairly simple -- handles hotplugging of a USB NIC, but currently does not handle re-insert -- basically good enough for development netork connection, but not production grade. May 20 18:17:04 it is useful I can confirm ? May 20 18:17:07 I have used it :) May 20 18:17:17 :-) May 20 18:17:33 cbrake: ok. we have the usb nic on board, but kinda hotplug it since I have to modprobe the modules as part of our boot process. they are never removed, as that can cause musb to go into serious depression.. May 20 18:17:37 :) May 20 18:17:44 except that BindTo is broken in systemd May 20 18:18:27 tasslehoff: then these network hotplug service from cbrake will be helpful for you May 20 18:18:43 tasslehoff: https://gist.github.com/cbrake/5092651 May 20 18:19:13 what I need is a way to start networking when eth0 shows up, and have stuff working on changes between static/dhcp and no-link/link May 20 18:19:25 tasslehoff: interested in any improvements May 20 18:19:39 tasslehoff: this should handle starting networking when eth0 shows up May 20 18:20:46 tasslehoff: I've not tested no-link/link lately May 20 18:20:55 cbrake: great. thanks. will let you know if I change/improve it May 20 18:21:04 cbrake: but it should/could work? May 20 18:22:16 tasslehoff: might give you a head start -- no guarantees :-) May 20 18:22:30 :) May 20 18:23:43 I guess what I will need is this, and another service I can use to do ifup/ifdown when I change between dhcp and static. that could maybe monitor link status as well. May 20 19:14:11 Crofton khem, Moving the lists now. We'll have a few minutes of downtime. May 20 19:19:07 so i had a do_rootfs fail with my rpi build but the log doesn't really show any errors May 20 19:41:39 running with -D -D so I should have a bigger log to look at when i get home... May 20 19:42:47 hey there May 20 20:05:40 * kergoth` thinks about coding up a potential bb.fetch2 alternative which is a standalone command-line fetch tool May 20 20:06:14 kergoth`: wget? :P May 20 20:06:34 I'd love to see an external tool that just takes in the SRC URI.. May 20 20:06:40 wget/curl for the main portion, yeah. but then the rest for the scm uris, etc May 20 20:07:03 I'd also love to see the system fetch -all- of a recipes sources in parallel.. (last time I looked it was one source at a time) May 20 20:07:11 basically curl + additional fetch methods + caching (DL_DIR) + coherent, consistent proxy handling May 20 20:07:22 yup May 20 20:07:24 oh proxy, still in use today? May 20 20:07:29 * eren prefers VPN May 20 20:07:40 lots of big companies still block ports May 20 20:07:54 eren, most big companies still use proxies it seems, and as kergoth said.. port blocing May 20 20:08:06 vpn solves the problem of apps that do not support proxying May 20 20:08:17 vpn also get people fired from those companies May 20 20:08:27 and you have to have somewhere external to VPN to May 20 20:08:28 I'm sorry but wtf May 20 20:09:00 not unusual that all communications have to run though company approved resources (i.e. proxies) May 20 20:09:02 does ssh get those people fired as well? May 20 20:09:06 ys May 20 20:09:08 yes May 20 20:09:13 omg May 20 20:09:15 and I'm not kidding May 20 20:09:32 enterprise fascism May 20 20:10:35 they say, then, "you are a slave of ours, you don't need anything but outlook and company stuff, just get the hell to your work" May 20 20:15:03 heh, it always makes me think of Snowcrash, where they try to claim ownership of what's in the employees heads May 20 20:15:12 * kergoth` should reread that, its been a while May 20 20:16:15 * fray looks at his BSD - Mentally Contaminated pin May 20 20:16:21 hah May 20 20:16:22 nice May 20 20:16:23 (look at that -AT&T- up..) May 20 20:16:29 * eren listens to Paul Mauriat-El Bimbo May 20 20:17:17 halstead: great May 20 20:17:26 guess I might pursue the standalone fetch tool thing some weekend, since there's at least some interest in such a thing. I want to give more thought to the design of the URI/URL scheme for each scm than we did when creating bb.fetch, though May 20 20:17:33 khem, Almost done with the move. May 20 20:18:14 * fray just updated to the latest oe-core.. and I'm now getting a "NOTE: LOG: ..." for each task.. May 20 20:18:32 * fray wonders if that is intentional May 20 20:19:00 heh, sounds like a remnant debug message May 20 20:24:39 yup May 20 20:24:56 my thinking exactly.... I suspect bitbake, but I'm not sure since I updated them both at once May 20 20:25:28 i.e. May 20 20:25:28 NOTE: LOG: /home/lmhatle/git/lpd/build-1/bitbake_build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/mtd-utils-native/1.5.0-r3/temp/do_fetchall/log.do_fetchall.32386 May 20 20:41:44 how odd.. I ran it again and it didn't do it this time May 20 20:42:52 heh May 20 20:42:54 gremlins May 20 20:47:19 I love gremlins in my bitbake.. :P May 20 20:48:48 * mr_science loves cupcakes May 20 20:52:16 halstead, how did it go? May 20 20:52:34 Crofton, It should have just come up now. May 20 20:52:45 k May 20 20:53:06 Crofton, Do you have the password to unpublish the lists at linuxtogo? May 20 20:53:14 no May 20 20:53:23 if I do, I forgot it :) May 20 20:53:27 Crofton, Maybe Jefro? May 20 20:53:38 maybe May 20 20:53:46 he may be backup on some **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 21 02:59:58 2013