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Jun 01 04:15:45 <nerdboy> is there an image recipe somewhere for e17?
Jun 01 04:16:06 <nerdboy> i'm not sure what to do with meta-efl...
Jun 01 04:17:49 <nerdboy> DJWillis: hey, and thanks for the fork...
Jun 01 04:20:35 <nerdboy> i didn't see any way to update the existing pull request, but there are a lot more recipes and mods in there now
Jun 01 04:23:03 <nerdboy> empcd is the shiznitz...
Jun 01 12:32:55 <captainigloo> hi
Jun 01 16:11:11 <nerdboy> moin
Jun 01 20:48:16 * florian admires all the bloat in a simple core x11 image
Jun 01 20:55:43 <pb_> yeah, that's all slightly depressing.
Jun 01 21:02:23 <florian> indeed...
Jun 01 21:04:12 <florian> its not the only depressing problem... but a bare x11 image that does not fit into 64mb of ram is a shame
Jun 01 21:07:16 <florian> this is what our users replace with ubuntu images :-/
Jun 01 21:07:59 <Daemon404> it's almost as if it was designed decades ago.
Jun 01 21:17:03 <florian> weill.. it includes mc :)
Jun 01 21:17:05 <florian> wtf
Jun 01 21:18:07 <florian> oh and really "core" bits like python-dbus
Jun 01 21:19:14 <florian> cracklib... oh well
Jun 01 21:19:20 <Daemon404> mc == ?
Jun 01 21:19:24 <Daemon404> my brain fills it as mocomp
Jun 01 21:19:54 <florian> Daemon404: no that's the midnight commander
Jun 01 21:20:11 <Daemon404> oh /that/ mc
Jun 01 21:20:19 <Daemon404> and here i thought it was something relevant
Jun 01 21:22:47 <florian> I should grab some pills to fight depressions and start to maintain oe-classic :-/
Jun 01 21:23:36 <bluelightning> or, you could help us fix problems you see in OE-Core...
Jun 01 21:25:49 <florian> I'm pretty sure some folks won't agree with my packagegroup-core-basic.bb patch
Jun 01 21:26:47 <bluelightning> maybe it needs a shakeup, I'm not entirely sure many people are using it
Jun 01 21:28:23 <florian> well... its a core one and I's expect people to start with it
Jun 01 21:29:10 <florian> an from the name you would guess a really basic group you can add things you actually need
Jun 01 21:36:23 <bluelightning> I suppose you have seen its contents depends upon DISTRO_FEATURES
Jun 01 21:41:08 <florian> packagegroup-core-basic.bb? not that much... or?
Jun 01 21:49:17 <bluelightning> florian: oh, I was thinking of packagegroup-base
Jun 01 21:49:29 <bluelightning> yes there's a lot of arbitrary things in here for sure
Jun 01 21:49:49 <bluelightning> I think the idea was this is supposed to give you something a bit closer to a standard linux system
Jun 01 21:50:07 <bluelightning> replacing busybox commands with their real equivalents etc.
Jun 01 21:50:11 <florian> But I admit it would a good target for intensive use of distro features :)
Jun 01 21:50:32 <bluelightning> -basic is probably a poor name I'd have to agree
Jun 01 21:50:37 <florian> bluelightning: people who want a standard system use debian
Jun 01 21:51:08 <bluelightning> depends... then you probably lose the build-from-source feature
Jun 01 21:51:18 <bluelightning> or at least, that is a bit harder
Jun 01 21:52:03 <florian> bluelightning: let me take a look at packagegroup-base :)
Jun 01 21:52:27 <florian> bluelightning: ok, not debian but gentoo ;)
Jun 01 21:59:34 <florian> packagegroup-base looks way better
Jun 01 22:00:49 <bluelightning> FWIW there is a bug assigned to me to rename some of the images, I think -basic was one of them...
Jun 01 23:06:14 <nerdboy> okay, i cloned and added meta-angstrom to my bblayers
Jun 01 23:06:31 <nerdboy> building efl-nodm-image now
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