**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 11 02:59:58 2013 Jul 11 07:24:54 good morning Jul 11 07:41:24 morning all, hi mckoan Jul 11 09:23:06 morning all Jul 11 09:37:42 morning eren, all Jul 11 09:38:06 hi all Jul 11 09:38:20 hi pb_ Jul 11 09:48:45 I've packaged ax25 packages to get us started Jul 11 09:48:56 aprx, libax25, ax25-{tools,apps} Jul 11 09:49:04 now, I need to enable AX.25 configuration in the kernel Jul 11 09:49:28 I guess I will need to have another DISTRO layer that provides related kernel config fragment? Jul 11 09:50:42 eren: that would be the standard way to do that yes Jul 11 09:50:49 morning bluelightning Jul 11 09:51:23 bluelightning: ok, I'm currently reading kernel development manual. I will create a distribution layer that extends "poky", and that adds ax.25 configuration Jul 11 09:51:37 heh, does the kernel still actually have ax.25 these days? I thought I remembered that being deleted. Jul 11 09:53:41 pb_: sure, why not? :) Jul 11 09:53:44 https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/8a72f3820c4d14b27ad5336aed00063a7a7f1bef/net/ax25/Kconfig Jul 11 09:53:46 pb_: it is still there. :) Jul 11 09:53:53 ah, very good Jul 11 09:55:19 I will make them build as modules, but I'm not sure how I can enable them on startup Jul 11 09:55:32 or put them in the image Jul 11 09:57:46 eren: presumably your recipes would pull in the module packages using RRECOMMENDS Jul 11 09:58:40 ah I see, now I have a bigger problem that ax25-apps didn't compile on qemuarm :) Jul 11 09:59:34 yeah, I think RRECOMMENDS on the module package is the traditional solution. it's not entirely satisfactory but with our current tooling I don't think it's easy to do anything better. Jul 11 10:00:47 hecking for initscr in -lncurses... no Jul 11 10:00:49 configure: error: Could not find the ncurses library; aborting Jul 11 10:00:51 ops Jul 11 10:02:07 I've often wondered about recipes querying kernel config out of STAGING_KERNEL_DIR and warning if required configuration is not enabled... Jul 11 10:02:21 how is it possible that it compiled on qemux86, but not on qemuarm Jul 11 10:02:50 dunno, do you have ncurses in your qemux86 sysroot? Jul 11 10:03:11 yes, and check that it's not mistakenly using the host ncurses Jul 11 10:03:53 pb_: yeah Jul 11 10:04:13 I've first built the image for qemux86, and later I changed MACHINE= variable Jul 11 10:04:35 isn't it the usual way for trying the packages/distros for different archs? Jul 11 10:04:52 sohuld I start from completely new build directory? Jul 11 10:05:06 no, that should be fine Jul 11 10:05:53 ok, I've used "bitbake ncurses" Jul 11 10:05:58 it seems to build fine afterwards Jul 11 10:06:25 does your recipe have ncurses in DEPENDS? Jul 11 10:07:22 bluelightning: oh, no Jul 11 10:07:26 :) Jul 11 10:08:59 thanks Jul 11 10:10:11 np :) Jul 11 10:15:16 heh, it compiles on arm as well Jul 11 10:15:24 I guess I am ready to test it on beagleboard Jul 11 10:15:39 after enabling kernel fragments, of course Jul 11 13:58:33 hi. a coworker here is seeing the following error. anyone knows what can be the cause? it seems to happen only on 1 machine. Jul 11 13:58:33 ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpseudo.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Jul 11 13:58:33 and some files that are 'root' can be moved because pseudo doesn't work. Jul 11 13:58:50 if that helps, it happens during the build of attr. Jul 11 14:12:26 ndec: we've been having reports of this recently, I don't know what the cause is and unfortunately the linux loader doesn't seem to report why it couldn't preload the library Jul 11 14:12:51 ndec: perhaps prod seebs in #yocto when he comes online later (he's the pseudo maintainer) Jul 11 14:12:51 bluelightning_: I sent an e-mail on the mailing list with a detailed explanation Jul 11 14:12:59 let me find the link Jul 11 14:13:00 erbo: ah ok I didn't see that Jul 11 14:14:15 ndec, bluelightning_: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-June/080328.html Jul 11 14:17:00 ndec: if you just want a quick fix you can do something like, http://pastebin.com/Cm5uSYLH Jul 11 14:17:38 could someone open up a bug report for this if there isn't one already? Jul 11 14:17:59 erbo: thanks for the link, that explains the problem neatly Jul 11 14:18:16 bluelightning_: sure, I'll search for a bug and otherwise file on Jul 11 14:18:22 erbo: thanks Jul 11 14:22:09 bluelightning_: but why is it a 'recent' bug. in our case we use dylan branch. Jul 11 14:24:20 ndec: I'm not exactly sure, at least the situation erbo is describing can only occur with master Jul 11 14:26:22 ndec: in the past I know it was possible for pseudo to not build correctly if some 32-bit libraries were installed on a 64-bit host Jul 11 14:26:52 ndec: presumably this is a 64-bit host? Jul 11 14:28:13 yes. Jul 11 14:29:42 bluelightning_: bug created, https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4843 Jul 11 14:31:58 bluelightning: bug created, https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4843 Jul 11 14:32:25 tlwoerner: can you please try the quick workaround proposed above, by erbo. Jul 11 14:32:43 ndec: I wonder if there is a similar issue with the path Jul 11 14:33:02 ndec: tlwoerner: funnily enough when I tried to refresh my memory I came across this: https://plus.google.com/113130211987114395265/posts/PwNbWPbKy1e :) Jul 11 14:33:58 erbo: thanks Jul 11 14:34:18 looks like the guy sitting next to me ;-) Jul 11 14:34:36 but the problem is on another coworker machine. Jul 11 14:34:47 running ubuntu. Jul 11 16:45:44 hrw: hi. when building with linaro-gcc, it doesn't seem to add --with-arch=xxx builtin option. there is no specified when trying xxx-gcc -v. is that expected, or a problem? Jul 11 16:51:13 I was having a good day until I had to deal with a bank. Jul 11 16:51:30 heh Jul 11 16:52:23 Crofton|work: I guess it was not about money they offered you, but the other way around? ;) Jul 11 16:52:40 well, we had a second mortage Jul 11 16:52:59 but they clsoed the account a while back for silly reasons Jul 11 16:53:07 so we are refinancing the house now Jul 11 16:53:18 and just found out they still have a Lien on the house Jul 11 16:53:28 and I have to pay them41 usd to release it Jul 11 16:53:35 grr Jul 11 16:53:42 basically, I ahve to give them 41 sollars to get my house back Jul 11 16:54:10 not that bad :) Jul 11 16:54:15 you'd wonder what the point of the lien is if it's that small amount of money to release it Jul 11 16:54:16 this is alluded to in the contract, but the process is really painful involving writing letters and sending certified checks Jul 11 16:54:17 in general that is not a bad price. ;) But I get what you mean. Jul 11 16:54:26 could be worse number... Jul 11 16:54:32 well, they will not release it if you owe them money Jul 11 16:55:09 the annoying part is I cannot click on a box on the website and enter a credit card number Jul 11 16:55:22 moin Jul 11 16:55:28 * pb_ sends $41 to crofton's bank and owns his house Jul 11 16:55:56 I go for 42 Jul 11 16:56:00 do I hear $43? Jul 11 16:56:04 ah, gazumped Jul 11 16:56:17 heh Jul 11 16:56:34 Crofton|work: I know this stupid bureaucrats feeling all to well :( Jul 11 16:57:08 all the 41 gets you is a note in a file that says chase no longer cares who owns the house Jul 11 16:57:45 I can see how that ruins a good day Jul 11 16:57:53 oh, drat. would they put a note in their file saying that I own it for $42? Jul 11 16:58:51 actually, thinking about it, the pound has been depreciating against the dollar lately. not sure I can stretch to $42 after all. Jul 11 17:00:58 * pb_ go home now Jul 11 17:01:00 heh Jul 11 17:01:09 later all Jul 11 17:01:19 it is telling the web site has more info on foreclosure than paying off the loan Jul 11 17:02:19 I need to try a refi myself, our rate is like 6.875% or something Jul 11 18:20:11 * mr_science makes 25 GBs of junk data for test... Jul 11 18:20:27 good thing our main data partition is ext4 now Jul 11 18:34:44 settle back, easy jim... Jul 11 19:56:56 too many w's? Jul 11 20:49:45 I wonder what airport you use for Edinburgh? Jul 11 20:51:16 the edinburg i used to visit as a kid doesn't have an airport... Jul 11 20:52:23 had to fly into the next town over... through summer convective activity... in a DC-3... Jul 11 20:52:40 looks like Glasgow Jul 11 20:53:11 which is, as you may know, essentially "a bunch of airplane parts flying in loose formation" Jul 11 20:53:45 back to testing... Jul 11 20:53:50 heh Jul 11 20:53:55 I've seen them occasionally Jul 12 00:41:16 yay, it's LUG meeting night Jul 12 00:41:32 * mr_science is the guest speaker Jul 12 01:03:12 ka6sox: no heckling **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 12 02:59:58 2013