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Oct 10 07:24:20 <mckoan> good morning
Oct 10 07:25:28 <woglinde> hi mckoan
Oct 10 08:16:25 <woglinde> hi stefan
Oct 10 08:17:04 <stefan_schmidt_w> hi woglinde 
Oct 10 08:17:09 <stefan_schmidt_w> woglinde: how are things?
Oct 10 08:18:26 <woglinde> I am sleepy again like yesterday
Oct 10 08:18:34 <woglinde> damn weather
Oct 10 08:18:46 <stefan_schmidt_w> cold in good old Germany?
Oct 10 08:18:54 <stefan_schmidt_w> and darkish I guess
Oct 10 08:19:11 <stefan_schmidt_w> will be good to be back next month :)
Oct 10 08:28:17 <mckoan> woglinde: you can take comfort thinking that is bad weather in the sunny Italy too :-(
Oct 10 08:29:15 <stefan_schmidt_w> Sun is shining in UK
Oct 10 08:29:22 <stefan_schmidt_w> Bad its cold anyway
Oct 10 08:29:32 <stefan_schmidt_w> s/bad/But(
Oct 10 08:33:50 <rburton> i think someone forgot to pay the gas bill in the UK
Oct 10 08:34:03 <rburton> or the UK's thermostat needs to be turned up again
Oct 10 08:40:51 <stefan_schmidt_w> rburton: at least here temp dropped a lot over the last days
Oct 10 08:41:12 <stefan_schmidt_w> I remember sitting int the sun at the Great Windsor park next to the castle on Sunday
Oct 10 08:41:27 <stefan_schmidt_w> And this morning I was freezing when waiting for the train
Oct 10 08:44:10 <rburton> stefan_schmidt_w: http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=ICAMBRID29&day=10&year=2013&month=10&graphspan=week
Oct 10 08:44:33 <rburton> stefan_schmidt_w: it appears the weather forgot to get warm this morning
Oct 10 08:45:46 <stefan_schmidt_w> rburton: yup, just decided to stay at night level. Can't be bothered to warm up a bit :)
Oct 10 08:58:15 <bluelightning> morning a ll
Oct 10 09:03:52 <JaMa> moin
Oct 10 09:05:18 <ant_work> gm
Oct 10 09:07:42 <ant_work> JaMa: I start with http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OE-Core_Standalone_Setup
Oct 10 09:08:06 <ant_work> sanity_info is created on first run aparently
Oct 10 09:08:09 <ant_work> +p
Oct 10 09:20:39 <kevin_rz2>  hi guys!, I built gstreamer1.0, plugins good, plugins base and plugins bad, well but after installing them on my beaglebone, i cannot see the plugins under gst-inspect-1.0, i added the     PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-gstreamer1.0-plugins-good = "v4l wavpack" but well i think its not getting installed/included in the image. 
Oct 10 09:21:06 <bluelightning> kevin_rz2: what exactly are you adding to IMAGE_INSTALL?
Oct 10 09:21:25 <kevin_rz2> i am aware that The Plugins get built seperate. but is there a way to include them?
Oct 10 09:21:56 <kevin_rz2> i added gstreamer1.0 \ 	gstreamer1.0-plugins-base \ 	gstreamer1.0-plugins-good \
Oct 10 09:24:00 <kevin_rz2> to IMAGE_INSTALL ofc, i added them to the cloud9-image. After installation i can see gstreamer1.0, plugins-good, and base but the actual plugins are missing. i can see the .ipk's in the deploy folder but all of them are not included in the image itself, and i dont wanna install them one by one, is there a way to include all the built plugins in the image while its building? 
Oct 10 09:27:04 <bluelightning> kevin_rz2: I think you need to be installing gstreamer1.0-plugins-base-meta and gstreamer1.0-plugins-good-meta
Oct 10 09:28:05 <bluelightning> assuming it's similar to gstreamer 0.1x the gstreamer1.0-plugins-good and gstreamer1.0-plugins-base *packages* don't actually contain anything ; their -meta equivalents will pull in all the built plugins
Oct 10 09:31:54 <kevin_rz2> so i'l try gstreamer1.0-plugins-good-meta and see if they get included. and i shall report back. THanks Bluelightning
Oct 10 09:32:01 <bluelightning> np
Oct 10 09:34:37 <pt> Hi
Oct 10 09:35:45 <pt> in my build there are two meta-layers each having bbappend files with the same name, how will they execute?
Oct 10 09:36:52 <bluelightning> pt: they will both be appended to the recipe, in ascending order of the layer priority for each layer
Oct 10 10:16:26 <ant_work> JaMa: the make of Gentoo does indeed fail the test. Though, the bug  http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?30612  is set as resolved long ago..
Oct 10 10:16:36 <ant_work> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-devel/make/files/make-3.82-archives-many-objs.patch?view=log
Oct 10 10:22:04 <bluelightning> ant_work: do you mean it fails our sanity tests? or some other test?
Oct 10 10:34:06 <pt> there is one variable in the bbappend file of lower priority, i do not want to use that variable, the one with higher priority is my bbappend file
Oct 10 10:35:02 <pt> how do i do that?
Oct 10 10:42:29 <bluelightning> pt: you'd have to set it back to the old value in your bbappend
Oct 10 10:55:06 <pt> actually i do not want to use that variable, so i commented that variable in my bbappend (i guess its wrong)
Oct 10 10:58:27 <ant_work> bluelightning: I did a build from scratch, refreshing also local.conf and removing sanity_info which was there since som etime
Oct 10 10:58:55 <bluelightning> pt: can you be more specific? what do you mean by you don't want to use it?
Oct 10 10:59:17 <bluelightning> ant_work: ah, I see
Oct 10 10:59:21 <ant_work> bluelightning: somehow Gentoo's make 3.82-r4 now fails the test 
Oct 10 11:00:12 <bluelightning> doh
Oct 10 11:02:55 <ant_work> http://pastebin.com/2UumXP77
Oct 10 11:06:56 <ant_work> http://pastebin.com/QiHwZrjX
Oct 10 11:07:10 <ant_work> bluelightning: I suspect here we have another isue with the leading space
Oct 10 11:08:54 <Crofton|work> if I see the missing hsep/vsep commands error, what is the problem
Oct 10 11:08:58 * Crofton|work forgets
Oct 10 11:09:00 <ant_work> see here another reproducer
Oct 10 11:09:02 <ant_work> http://pastebin.com/musi72tf
Oct 10 11:09:21 <ant_work> util.a: foo.c bar.c util.a( foo.o bar.o) is bad
Oct 10 11:09:29 <ant_work> util.a: foo.c bar.c util.a(foo.o bar.o) is good
Oct 10 11:09:56 <ant_work> bluelightning: does your buildhost pass the test removing sanity_info?
Oct 10 11:11:57 <bluelightning> ant_work: actually I just checked, on both of my build machines (Kubuntu desktop and CentOS 6 server) I have make 3.81 installed not 3.82
Oct 10 11:13:18 <ant_work> heh
Oct 10 11:14:55 <ant_work> I'm not seeing build issues here, neither JaMa
Oct 10 11:15:11 <bluelightning> the checks that fray introduced are fairly strict
Oct 10 11:15:12 <ant_work> I'd say is a false positive (or th etest is b0rked;)
Oct 10 11:15:23 <bluelightning> fray: any thoughts (when you wake up) ?
Oct 10 11:23:41 <JaMa> + I don't see failed sanity test
Oct 10 11:31:45 <ant_work> JaMa: well, that's the most strange thing
Oct 10 11:32:07 <ant_work> have you (re)moved sanity_info for testing?
Oct 10 11:33:33 <ant_work> bluelightning: if you check in sanity.bbclass you'll find the a.m. link to the testcase. This works here, thus make is patched enough
Oct 10 11:33:52 <ant_work> bluelightning: strangely the check in sanity.bbclass introduced the leading space
Oct 10 11:34:33 <ant_work> which seems leading to the make: *** No rule to make target 
Oct 10 11:36:36 <ant_work> now the question is, does other make versions tolerate that empty space?
Oct 10 11:37:13 <ant_work> s/does/do/ doh
Oct 10 11:38:56 <JaMa> ant_work: I did many builds without tmp-eglibc
Oct 10 11:39:11 <JaMa> and without sstate when testing pseudo
Oct 10 11:39:41 <ant_work> I'm talking about build/conf/sanity_info, out of tmpdir
Oct 10 11:39:54 <ant_work> is rarely wiped out
Oct 10 11:41:34 <JaMa> what's "build" directory?
Oct 10 11:42:05 <JaMa> ah I see
Oct 10 11:42:19 <ant_work> where local.conf and bblayers.conf are
Oct 10 11:42:58 <JaMa> somehow I confused this one with tmp-eglibc/saved_tmpdir and tmp-eglibc/abi_version
Oct 10 11:43:24 <ant_work> I bet that removing it will show you the problem
Oct 10 11:43:36 * JaMa trying now
Oct 10 11:44:01 <JaMa> yup it shows that now, sorry for misunderstanding it before
Oct 10 11:44:06 <ant_work> ;)
Oct 10 11:48:08 <ant_work> can you see the date of that file?
Oct 10 11:54:27 <JaMa> not so old Sep 25 22:38
Oct 10 11:55:02 <ant_work> creation? ok, then it did pass the test that day
Oct 10 11:55:22 <JaMa> modification
Oct 10 11:55:50 <JaMa> seems to be "modified" quite often, in 2nd build I have Oct  6 19:51 sanity_info
Oct 10 11:55:55 <ant_work> I'm pretty sure this misbehavior is recent
Oct 10 11:56:38 <ant_work> have you emerged make 3.82-r4 back in summer?
Oct 10 11:58:37 <JaMa> Fri Oct  5 11:16:23 2012 >>> sys-devel/make-3.82-r4
Oct 10 11:58:47 <JaMa> and rebuilt few times since then
Oct 10 11:59:59 <pb_> morning all
Oct 10 12:00:05 <JaMa> last rebuilt Wed Sep 11 07:33:14 PDT 2013
Oct 10 12:00:10 <ant_work> gm pb_ 
Oct 10 12:00:18 <pb_> hi ant_work
Oct 10 12:03:10 <Crofton|work> who knows about meta-linaro?
Oct 10 12:03:13 <ant_work> JaMa: I will try on the Ubuntu I have on another disk
Oct 10 12:03:33 <ant_work> pb_: maybe you can enlighten us about Makefile syntax...
Oct 10 12:05:05 <ant_work> pb_: http://pastebin.com/2UumXP77
Oct 10 12:07:08 <ndec> Crofton|work: what's your question about meta-linaro?
Oct 10 12:07:35 <Crofton|work> the default in angstrom seems to fial on libc with hsep/vsep not found erros
Oct 10 12:08:01 <Crofton|work> I think due to F19 having recent tex and those going away
Oct 10 12:08:11 <Crofton|work> I making a number of guesses here :)
Oct 10 12:13:26 <Crofton|work> hopefully I can solve the problem by convincing the person with the issue is to use Angstrom based from 1.4 :)
Oct 10 13:40:05 <koen> Crofton|work: v2012.12 has fixed the texinfo 5 stuff already, update your setupscripts :)
Oct 10 13:41:53 <koen> https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/meta-linaro/commit/e6f8003b039335f7ec75edf9a9b7a84d2d1b911a
Oct 10 13:47:32 <Crofton|work> I talked the guy into using 1.4 instead
Oct 10 13:47:48 <Crofton|work> he now says a fail fetching from infradead
Oct 10 13:49:21 <koen> the source mirrors are up to date, so all base sources are mirrored
Oct 10 13:49:58 <koen> not sure if the git2 fetcher ever got fixed wrt snapshots
Oct 10 13:53:02 <Crofton|work> hmm, URL git://git.zytor.com/utils/ranpwd.git just failed for me
Oct 10 18:08:29 <mario-goulart> Is anybody able to fetch stuff from icedtea.classpath.org.  I'm trying to bake openjdk-7-jre (meta-java), but it seems that the server is dying with "Proxy Error".
Oct 10 18:12:09 <woglinde> mario-goulart hm
Oct 10 18:12:37 <woglinde> hm right
Oct 10 18:12:48 <woglinde> redirect to icedtea.wildebeest.org
Oct 10 18:12:57 <woglinde> I should have updated all recipes
Oct 10 18:13:01 <woglinde> my fault
Oct 10 18:13:09 <woglinde> thanks for hinting
Oct 10 18:13:14 <mario-goulart> Thanks, woglinde
Oct 10 18:13:16 * mario-goulart tries
Oct 10 18:13:18 <woglinde> wil do now
Oct 10 18:18:33 <woglinde> hm I should introduce a variable for this server
Oct 10 18:18:56 <mario-goulart> woglinde saves the day.  Thanks a lot, it works now!
Oct 10 18:27:36 <woglinde> mario-goulart git is updated now
Oct 10 18:27:50 <mario-goulart> woglinde: great.  Thank you.
Oct 10 19:48:10 <mario-goulart> woglinde: what's the deal with those mercurial web UIs used by icedtea/openjdk?  Now icedtea.wildebeest.org seems to be hanging too.
Oct 10 20:16:46 <exosyst> can anyone tell me what layer I need to use to get sthttpd?
Oct 10 20:19:47 <exosyst> meta-webserver - found it
Oct 10 20:25:06 <exosyst> Why isn't sthttpd present in the meta-webserver 
Oct 10 20:28:46 <Crofton|work> no one wrote a recipe?
Oct 10 20:28:59 <Crofton|work> use layer.openembedded.org to see if anyone made a reicpe
Oct 10 20:30:27 <exosyst> The recipe already exists at https://github.com/openembedded/meta-oe/tree/master/meta-webserver/recipes-httpd/sthttpd hence my confusion. I used it before :-/
Oct 10 20:32:37 <Crofton|work> maybe not around when branched for yocto1.n
Oct 10 20:33:45 <exosyst> ah
Oct 10 20:33:55 <exosyst> I wrote a systemd service for it and everything :(
Oct 10 20:34:06 <Crofton|work> copy it from a recent release :)
Oct 10 20:35:29 <exosyst> How do I do that in a clean way Crofton|work ?
Oct 10 20:35:52 <Crofton|work> a clean way would be make a custom branch and cherry-pick
Oct 10 20:36:11 <exosyst> I doubt anyone has the time to guide me through how to do that? 
Oct 10 20:36:24 <exosyst> What about an easy way?
Oct 10 20:36:25 <Crofton|work> copy the recipe then :)
Oct 10 20:37:32 <exosyst> just literally grab the files and it will parse and work?
Oct 10 20:37:53 <Crofton|work> they shuold I am assuming there is nothing special that is version dependent
Oct 10 20:40:56 <exosyst> If it works, how can I get it into upstream? Is it as trivial as sending a git diff?
Oct 10 20:41:17 <Crofton|work> you'll need to make the approiate update request
Oct 10 20:41:32 <Crofton|work> which should be cherrypicking from the commit that is in the next rev
Oct 10 20:41:45 <Crofton|work> who is listed as maintainer for meta-webserver?
Oct 10 20:43:15 <exosyst> Crofton|work, Paul Eggleton is
Oct 10 20:43:29 <Crofton|work> aka bluelightening
Oct 10 20:44:30 <exosyst> indeed, so Mr bluelightning - how can I submit this to you?
Oct 10 20:44:54 <Crofton|work> see if ti worked first :)
Oct 10 20:45:11 <exosyst> it did. Build and ready to roll
Oct 10 20:45:14 <exosyst> built*
Oct 10 20:45:22 <bluelightning> exosyst: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded
Oct 10 20:49:13 <ant_home> fray: ping
Oct 10 20:50:10 <Crofton|work> bluelightning, I'm guessing he realy needs a cherrypick to a branch
Oct 10 20:52:24 <exosyst> bluelightning, Crofton|work - I'm gonna file it against the angstrom-staging-yocto1.4 - shall I just call it a backport
Oct 10 20:52:25 <exosyst> ?
Oct 10 20:52:43 <Crofton|work> I think so
Oct 10 20:57:40 <exosyst> OK - i think that worked :-/
Oct 10 20:59:37 <exosyst> If that's any good - I'd quite like to bring in my sthttpd.service file as well but first things first 
Oct 10 21:00:06 <Crofton|work> new work sho0uld go to master, and get cherrypickes in to the branch
Oct 10 21:01:02 <exosyst> Crofton|work, is there a guide on how to do that? I'd quite like to get involved as my job uses OE and I'm happy to invest some time learning
Oct 10 21:01:47 <Crofton|work> I do not think we have written the "How we function as a project" guide yet
Oct 10 21:01:50 <exosyst> Also - is there a way to do different do_install_append()s for either sysvinit or systemd?
Oct 10 21:02:59 <exosyst> I'm looking through existing recipes and figure I must be missing a trick...
Oct 10 21:03:38 <Crofton|work> yopu could submit a patch to mets-webserver for comments
Oct 10 21:04:16 <bluelightning> exosyst: most of the time that shouldn't be needed; if systemd/sysvinit are not enabled the files installed for one or the other are just deleted automatically at the end of do_install
Oct 10 21:05:25 <exosyst> bluelightning, Oh ok, so if I added a line to bring in the service and systemctl enable it that should suffice?  
Oct 10 21:06:15 <Crofton|work> I am off to do something foolish
Oct 10 21:06:19 <Crofton|work> on a mountain bike
Oct 10 21:06:21 <bluelightning> exosyst: I think systemctl enabling happens automatically as well, but check meta/classes/systemd.bbclass for details
Oct 10 21:06:26 <bluelightning> Crofton|work: have fun
Oct 10 21:06:32 <Crofton|work> thanks
Oct 10 21:06:38 <exosyst> Crofton|work, don't die. you're helpful! ;D
Oct 10 21:07:01 <Crofton|work> funny, you sound like my wife
Oct 10 21:07:24 <exosyst> bluelightning, Oh ok. well i've sent that patch to the mailing list. If I can fix it up and get it in that's a great start then I can work on getting the service file in too
Oct 10 21:07:25 <Crofton|work> well, the don't die bit
Oct 10 21:07:52 <exosyst> yeah - the better half is such a fickle creature
Oct 10 21:14:30 <woglinde> good nite
Oct 10 21:25:49 <exosyst> bluelightning, I have a working recipe with a systemd service. Should I resubmit to the mailing list as before?
Oct 10 22:06:57 <kroon> I can't get any text rendered using Qt5, even though I have the qtbase-fonts-* packages installed..
Oct 10 22:26:12 <kroon> trying adding fontconfig-utils..
Oct 10 22:30:54 <kroon> output of fc-list is empty
Oct 10 22:34:22 <kroon> hmm, fonts are installed in /usr/lib/fonts, and they are not getting picked up by fontconfig. After I created a symlink to /usr/lib/fonts -> /usr/share/fonts, and re-ran fc-cache, now my Qt-apps are displaying text
Oct 11 01:45:28 <nerdboy> kroon: don't think i've ever seen fonts installed under /usr/lib...
Oct 11 01:45:38 <nerdboy> is that some new policy thing?
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