**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 14 02:59:59 2014 Mar 14 03:03:50 okay, let's take a step back for a minute Mar 14 03:05:23 when i look at the main pages here => https://www.yoctoproject.org/ and here => http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Main_Page Mar 14 03:06:08 what i see is all about the technology for "users" and (external) "developers" Mar 14 03:07:17 what i don't see is something like the links under "Get Involved" here => http://www.gentoo.org Mar 14 03:07:55 there are several different options for people of different skill sets, usage interests, etc Mar 14 03:08:52 i'd like to see something that reaches out to potential people right on the front page(s) Mar 14 03:09:09 that would be a good start Mar 14 03:09:25 nerdboy: https://www.yoctoproject.org/about/participation Mar 14 03:12:09 that's buried two links away and not easy to find without looking... Mar 14 03:12:33 * nerdboy plays a little devil's advocate Mar 14 03:13:13 my point was the gentoo.org links are literally right there in the sidebar and much more obvious Mar 14 03:14:03 the yocto page looks very professional and almost says "we don't need any help" Mar 14 03:17:02 i might be exaggerating just a smidge to make a point Mar 14 03:17:34 that said, i may have a few skilled candidates i can recruit Mar 14 03:18:05 i have 3 in mind, who all use/depend on oe (classic and new) Mar 14 03:18:43 just not sure what exactly i would recruit them for Mar 14 03:19:28 hopefully at least one will be at elc and possibly the oe meeting Mar 14 03:19:54 the others don't travel much, and will only go to scale Mar 14 03:21:09 they're all real embedded developers (not like me) who do new board bringups and stuff all the time Mar 14 03:22:19 one i recruited as a gentoo dev a long about 9/10 years back, pretty much the day we met Mar 14 03:23:00 i only found out later she had a PhD in computer engineering and was president of her own company Mar 14 03:23:36 heh, and i start work there after next week Mar 14 03:24:18 nerdboy: There are certainly improvements the yocto site could use, no argument from me Mar 14 03:25:23 i need to overhaul her web site first thing... Mar 14 03:26:59 like i said, i know Geoff wants to go, i just don't know if they'll send anyone Mar 14 03:27:21 but with me gone, he should be able to push it Mar 14 03:28:23 he gets to convert our arago classic 8168 stuff over to yocto Mar 14 03:28:57 so if he was an "official" oe dev he could push all his new TI stuff upstream Mar 14 03:29:35 heh, push/pull whatever... Mar 14 03:32:18 RP: i was just suggesting a much more obvious pointer to more info on how people can help Mar 14 03:35:02 hi nerdboy Mar 14 03:35:55 hey seemant Mar 14 03:36:45 i was just harassing, er, talking about project stuff Mar 14 03:36:59 sort of compare and contrast... Mar 14 03:39:07 i was just thinking of updating the oe.org wiki with some pointers to this: https://www.yoctoproject.org/about/participation Mar 14 03:40:17 also eating a cornbread muffin... Mar 14 03:42:03 homemade? Mar 14 03:42:39 yup Mar 14 03:45:16 before gentoo, chris was one of the first devs i met back in the days of the original zaurus 5000D Mar 14 03:45:57 kergoth and raster kinda stand out as "memorable" Mar 14 03:49:43 seemant: you don't happen to know if spanky was panning on going to elc in may? Mar 14 03:50:09 nerdboy: no idea -- you've interacted with him much more recently than me :) Mar 14 03:50:47 just because we were both at scale? Mar 14 03:52:18 i don't see him in *-dev... Mar 14 03:53:13 yup that Mar 14 03:53:40 haven't actually hung out or chatted with him in at least a minute and a half Mar 14 04:02:03 long time no see... Mar 14 04:03:10 kergoth / RP / khem: i can work on some slides for the meeting, if that's okay Mar 14 04:03:27 maybe that's too formal... Mar 14 04:11:14 nerdboy: I dont think we plan any presentation sessions, usually its informal hacking sessions Mar 14 04:11:41 I encourage you to add your ideas to agenda Mar 14 04:11:52 its on wiki iirc Mar 14 04:12:16 yeah, so agenda topics but no slides? Mar 14 04:12:23 i can do that... Mar 14 08:11:23 good morning Mar 14 10:16:14 morning all Mar 14 10:33:12 hi bluelightning Mar 14 12:44:06 hi everyone Mar 14 12:44:07 I want to modify one of the python library files in poky/meta/lib/oe/ and keep the changed version in my layer and use it from there. what's the proper way of doing this. Mar 14 12:44:07 I have created a lib/oe/ folder in my layer and placed the modified .py file there. but when I launch a build, the original library file is used from poky Mar 14 12:56:09 glib ptests take.. forever Mar 14 20:44:49 moin **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 15 02:59:58 2014