**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 14 03:00:00 2014 Apr 14 07:28:23 morning all Apr 14 07:28:31 hello Apr 14 07:45:43 good morning Apr 14 07:59:13 khem: thanks Apr 14 08:25:41 My distro has /usr/local missing. Wondering where to add this meta info ... ??? Apr 14 08:35:55 seems like I timed out, not sure if my question was sent properly, so I'll send it again =) what are my options if I want to generate two images for the same MACHINE, one standard image and one where the kernel has been patched with RT patches? Apr 14 09:15:42 mago_: in the great order of things you are only allowed to prefer one virtual/kernel Apr 14 09:17:23 ant_work, lets say machine MYARM-NO_RT has PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "standard kernel" and MYARM-RT has PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "rt-patched kernel", would that not work? Apr 14 09:17:55 yes Apr 14 09:18:06 err, yes, that would *work* Apr 14 09:18:19 2 machines 2 kernels Apr 14 09:18:54 although, it's technically not two machines, its just one.. so i feel that conceptually, it is wrong to create two machines just to get 2 flavors of 1 machine Apr 14 09:19:08 are there any alternative to this solution? Apr 14 09:19:38 well, yes ofc ;) Apr 14 09:20:12 you can hack one image recipe Apr 14 09:23:10 ah, so i'll go MACHINE=MYARM bitbake core-image-minimal (creates image with standard kernel) and MACHINE=MYARM bitbake core-image-with-rt-patches to get one with RT kernel? Apr 14 09:26:10 do you need two equivalent images feature-wise? Apr 14 09:31:56 ant_work, yes, pretty much Apr 14 10:00:16 anyone know how to install anything in netbsd? Apr 14 10:10:47 Shawn186: pkg* stuff I think Apr 14 10:11:16 ah Apr 14 10:11:20 and pkg is not found Apr 14 10:11:41 Shawn186: pkg not just pkg itself Apr 14 10:12:09 its been a long long time, google probably your friend :-) Apr 14 10:12:53 ah, tab does nothing Apr 14 10:13:08 and mightly google is what I have been using Apr 14 10:13:14 finding nothing helpful Apr 14 10:13:27 its BSD there is probably a whole different google alternative with daemons :-) Apr 14 11:41:11 JaMa: I've updated mongodb to 2.6.0 and added the patch to fix armv5, trying a build for qemuarm before sending it to the list Apr 14 11:58:25 koen: thanks Apr 14 11:58:41 Building recipe: linux-firmware (928/1776) Apr 14 11:58:53 jenkins build will be busy for few more days ^ Apr 14 11:59:04 yeah Apr 14 11:59:23 and mongodb needs >8 GB or ram to build Apr 14 11:59:37 s/or/of/ Apr 14 12:01:10 I have 64G there, so it should be fine Apr 14 12:09:28 is there a standard solution to do the basic environment setup of a OE-based build tree? like fetching the layers, creating build/ dir and filling build/conf/bblayers.conf with the appropriate values etc? Apr 14 12:11:00 there isn't Apr 14 12:11:09 there are 3-4 popular variations Apr 14 12:11:18 and probably a gazillion home-grown ones Apr 14 12:11:33 are there any popular variations based on git repo tool? Apr 14 12:12:23 not sure if I'd call them popular, but yes Apr 14 12:12:28 linaro has a repo based one Apr 14 12:12:44 angstrom also is experimenting with a repo based one Apr 14 12:13:02 but repo only works if you don't one anyone to do development Apr 14 12:13:18 since repo e.g. deletes branch info Apr 14 12:13:33 oh, okay. did not know that Apr 14 12:13:52 the repo xml will say "track branch " Apr 14 12:14:02 but you checkout will just be a disconnected rev Apr 14 12:14:09 and once in a while google breaks repo Apr 14 12:14:35 koen: It doesn't delete, I just obfuscates. :) Apr 14 12:14:54 first day at work at linaro I had the misfortune to hit the 'google released a nonworking script again' bug Apr 14 12:15:34 but it's great for people who just don't want to spend any brainpower on now to download and setup stuff Apr 14 12:16:03 what are the other 3-4 popular variations? Apr 14 12:16:26 there's the 'combo repo' thing the yocto people push Apr 14 12:16:44 which is even worse than repo for developers Apr 14 12:17:00 just look at how often people git things wrong on the oe-core list Apr 14 12:17:20 :) Apr 14 12:17:22 but again, it's great for people unwilling to spend brainpower on setting up a build env Apr 14 12:17:41 JaMa: I noticed last week how most of the git hashes in comit logs are wrong :( Apr 14 12:17:57 so .. what do you use koen ? you seem to spend brainpower on this issue :) Apr 14 12:18:09 angstrom has a shell script based tool, which works for developers, but since it's shell it's awfull Apr 14 12:18:17 and then there are the makefile based somes... Apr 14 12:18:20 that oebb.sh thing? Apr 14 12:18:25 and some people use git submodules Apr 14 12:18:37 I used the oebb.sh thing Apr 14 12:18:47 it's the least bad thing out there Apr 14 12:18:51 and at work I use repo Apr 14 12:19:02 I hate both with a passion Apr 14 12:20:41 i'm totally worthless at shellscripting, so i guess i will have better luck with repo than trying to adapt oebb.sh. even though repo sucks for developing Apr 14 12:21:07 SHR's Makefile is now calling layerman script to do the work Apr 14 12:21:36 so Makefile is only for setup, checkouts and updates are handled by layerman Apr 14 12:22:09 build-webos was using git submodules and I was hating that as well Apr 14 12:22:31 Hello everybody Apr 14 12:23:48 hi Noor Apr 14 12:24:02 I prefer less "abstractions" above "git", so I prefer shell/makefile, because it doesn't force you to change your git workflow Apr 14 12:24:32 you can use it for initial checkout (or update after you screw something), but otherwise you can do whatever you want Apr 14 12:25:03 koen, using git submodules, does that mean you basically checkin' you build/conf/bblayers.conf (with the layers added to BBLAYERS), and then add the layers as submodules? seems like a quite lightweight and flexible approach, no? Apr 14 12:25:58 yes Apr 14 12:26:08 but same thing as repo: no branch info Apr 14 12:26:16 with repo you get the xml to give you a clue Apr 14 12:26:23 not so with git submodules Apr 14 12:26:36 you can say "just update the oe-core module" to a customer Apr 14 12:26:55 iirc cbrake uses a submodule based system Apr 14 12:54:51 if I were to checkin my build/conf/bblayers.conf, is there anyway I can avoid referencing absolute paths to the layers? I guess I could do ${TOPDIR}/../meta-mylayer, but that's not true if the build dir is located out of tree Apr 14 13:08:23 (although it probably is true if i also commit the build-dir) Apr 14 13:38:06 gm Apr 14 13:51:57 koen: was the "Unable to find file file://defconfig anywhere." issue fixed for you? Apr 14 13:52:09 I'm seeing it again today with latest oe-core+bitbake Apr 14 13:55:46 JaMa: what layers are youu sing? Apr 14 13:56:51 bluelightning: pastebin.com/VDL2Rh7N Apr 14 13:57:51 JaMa: update meta-handheld if jansa/test isn't the latest Apr 14 13:58:46 bluelightning: ok, thanks, trying now Apr 14 13:59:11 fwiw: should meta-handheld change break qemux86-64 build? Apr 14 13:59:20 I was missing last 3 commits from meta-handheld Apr 14 13:59:39 JaMa: earlier when it was broken it would yes, and the fix is 3rd from the top Apr 14 13:59:54 263ef53e613147dd07699e00c6d0aa8d2ce19e8e Apr 14 14:00:01 me/ hides Apr 14 14:00:10 ah I see it now, thanks2 Apr 14 14:38:49 mind.it Apr 14 14:39:08 oops Apr 14 15:27:00 bluelightning: we have lift off! http://frontpage.openembedded.org Apr 14 15:27:31 jackmitchell: that is awesome! :D Apr 14 15:27:37 great job Apr 14 15:27:43 I'm going to try and get some emails out this week to try and nail down some agreement on the text and images Apr 14 15:28:00 s/Packages/Recipes/ Apr 14 15:28:37 then when all that's done, we can start discussing possibility of interaction with the layerindex etc Apr 14 15:32:15 koen: fixed, just got to fight the git repo now to push it Apr 14 15:35:08 who deals with all the git repos? I can't push to the openembedded-web-frontpages repo again Apr 14 15:35:28 my git fu with pushing and remotes is weak Apr 14 15:41:30 what's your remote URL? Apr 14 15:41:33 (git remote -v) Apr 14 15:42:37 openembedded git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-web-frontpages (fetch) Apr 14 15:42:44 same for push Apr 14 15:43:05 jack /srv/http/hiawatha/oe-site $ git push --set-upstream openembedded master Apr 14 15:43:05 fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /openembedded-web-frontpages Apr 14 15:46:36 jackmitchell: it looks like something broke on the server end then Apr 14 15:47:14 unfortunately I don't have access to modify anything there Apr 14 15:49:17 bluelightning: do you know the right person to ping? Apr 14 15:49:55 jackmitchell: probably ka6sox Apr 14 15:52:18 jackmitchell: very nice: re frontpage. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 15 02:59:59 2014