**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 10 03:00:00 2014 May 10 06:23:56 Crofton: did you make this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRP May 10 12:06:10 OFFS 10 years on and file is still a PITA :-( May 10 12:31:30 XorA: the libmagic 'file'? May 10 12:38:58 koen: yes May 10 12:39:19 I remember used used to have to fix that ever couple of weeks or so back in the day :-( May 10 12:40:38 yes May 10 12:40:44 file and file-native needed to match May 10 12:40:53 and somethings file-on-host as well May 10 12:46:45 and the other universal constant is need a faster machine :-) May 10 14:10:20 nerdboy, nope May 10 16:51:59 So, after SCaLE it was Spanky's SIM talk that stuck in my head, and after ELC it's GNU Radio... May 10 16:52:21 apparently i have not control over that stuff May 10 16:52:31 s/not/no/ May 10 16:52:59 * nerdboy shakes his fist at Crofton May 10 17:07:34 aaaargh, why is my xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bbappend busted :-( May 10 17:08:17 great, the whole performance was wasted... May 10 17:26:13 * XorA blames Crofton May 10 17:37:52 my machine override seems to fail in just one directory May 10 17:56:45 koen: why is FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend := "${THISDIR}/${PN}:" not functional in meta-exynos? May 10 17:58:46 huh? May 10 17:58:47 beginning to piss me off because I know the .bbappend is being parsed as if I do do_install_append_machine() { exit -255} that gets added to do_install May 10 17:59:30 try ${THISDIR}/${PN}/${MACHINE}: maybe May 10 17:59:53 machine overides should be handled by the core May 10 18:00:07 i ain't the expert May 10 18:00:26 that just seems to happen to me too sometimes May 10 18:00:54 sometimes even when that's what i want... May 10 18:13:21 ok one of the BSP layers is broken May 10 18:14:37 now that you mention it, meta-bealeboard seems a little different than the others too May 10 18:14:55 *seems to act May 10 18:32:48 and the winner seems to be meta-raspberrypi May 10 18:32:53 typical May 10 18:36:21 or not May 10 18:36:33 I wonder if we I am hitting some maximum variable length issue May 10 18:38:13 did you examine FILESPATH to see exactly what it ends up being? bitbake -e will even show you what parts of the variable came from where due to the variable tracking patches May 10 18:38:19 FILESPATH and FILESEXTRAPATHS both, actually May 10 18:38:26 kergoth: yes, I think its truncated by something May 10 18:50:03 XorA: which one? May 10 18:50:13 the primary one? May 10 18:50:54 * nerdboy 's fork seems fine May 10 18:51:14 but i haven't tried reverting to upstream lately... May 10 18:57:09 it just seems deleting enough layers works May 10 18:57:15 doesnt seem to matter which ones May 10 19:14:09 XorA: is any layer resetting the FILESPATH ? May 10 19:14:53 khem: possibly, its gonna take a while to track down though May 10 19:15:04 which recipe is it ? May 10 19:15:22 xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bb May 10 19:15:23 you can use layers.openembedded.org to track is down quickly May 10 19:15:42 raspberrypi is doing some suspicious stuff in there May 10 19:15:49 http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/454/ May 10 19:15:56 see how many bbappends it has :) May 10 19:16:38 heh May 10 19:16:59 thats because its essential to override it to get working Xorg on arm :-( May 10 19:17:04 stupid fbdev driver May 10 19:17:18 just a couple... May 10 19:17:36 http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-raspberrypi/tree/recipes-graphics/xorg-xserver/xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bbappend?h=daisy May 10 19:17:41 very suspicious of this May 10 19:17:50 see https://github.com/linux-sunxi/meta-sunxi/blob/master/recipes-graphics/xorg-xserver/xserver-xf86-config_0.1.bbappend May 10 19:17:56 thats your problem May 10 19:18:15 we should have avoided that layer in Angstrom May 10 19:18:29 I thought I had knocked out that layer and still had the issue :-( May 10 19:18:54 meta-rpi is ok here for once May 10 19:19:29 what machine are you targetting May 10 19:19:36 chromebook-snow May 10 19:19:43 OK May 10 19:20:03 probably a new layer May 10 19:20:33 https://github.com/slimlogic/meta-exynos/commits/master May 10 19:23:30 khem: if you have any specific rpi issues, please let me know May 10 19:23:58 I dont have the issue itself May 10 19:24:13 the upstream guys have taken a few bits from my pull requests in the past, so i can always try that again... May 10 20:01:06 soccer game? May 10 20:17:37 * nerdboy quietly pages Tim Orling just in case... May 10 21:27:56 hmm, i don't see anything on the mailing list subscribe page May 10 21:28:30 is the a filter/delay in oe-core for discussion stuff or is it just me? May 10 21:30:13 didn't think i needed to add the [oe-core] thing myself... May 10 21:32:27 you don't need to add [oe-core] May 10 21:33:11 how long should it take to come back to me? typically... May 10 21:33:49 the patch process is different, i'm just thinking about discussion stuff May 10 21:35:37 if you're using gmail, how long is indefinitely. it does de-duplication implicitly, so you'll never see the version of your mail that hit the list May 10 21:39:18 o.O May 10 21:39:37 * nerdboy not used to that in the Olden Days May 10 21:39:56 heh, the list interface is still the same... May 10 21:52:24 kergoth: hopefully that means you saw the open hardware summit thing? May 10 21:53:07 i saw an email about it, yeah May 10 21:53:40 k May 10 21:54:34 i wouldn't mind coauthoring an abstract if anyone else is interested... May 10 21:57:45 XorA: := is immediate expansion, it breaks a lot of things if one of more layers use it May 10 21:58:03 XorA: most configs only have one BSP layer, so it works May 10 21:58:07 with >1, it breaks May 10 22:02:47 koen: thats going to cause us endless pain :-( May 10 22:03:11 although crappy arm kernels will also cause us endless pain :( May 10 22:04:39 I know May 10 22:04:48 everything I see a BSP with that bug I send a patch May 10 22:04:57 most of them go "What!?!?" May 10 22:05:10 ooops, I better fix meta-exynos then May 10 22:05:48 XorA: note that a single bsp doign := will break others May 10 22:05:58 it depends on layering order and priority May 10 22:06:20 so even if you fix your BSP, it might still not work due to others May 10 22:06:20 and they pretty much universally all do it May 10 22:06:32 which makes patches getting into BSP even more diffictult May 10 22:07:40 BBLAYER_${MACHINE} = ??? May 10 22:08:09 using := where? May 10 22:08:24 kergoth: config bbappends May 10 22:08:27 like the xorg configs May 10 22:09:01 using := in a bbappends is a bad idea anyway, but in config bbappends where >1 layers will have it is a nightmare May 10 22:09:47 A few angstrom releases ago I inserted a config bbappend to set xorg to xf86-video-fbdev May 10 22:09:56 so I could get working video on most of them May 10 22:09:59 slow, but working May 10 22:10:42 as far as I know angstrom is the only public config that uses layers heavily May 10 22:10:56 all other configs I seen chicken out :( May 10 22:10:58 ugh. https://github.com/kergoth/oe-test-scripts/blob/master/leaky-layer-tests may be of use May 10 22:11:22 * XorA installs Soldier of Fortune instead May 10 22:11:38 ooooh May 10 22:11:43 I liked that game May 10 22:11:52 isn't that 10 years old? May 10 22:12:00 yes May 10 22:12:10 it may not actually run on Windows 8 :-( May 10 22:12:28 kergoth: it mentions poky, I can't use that, it goes against my religious beliefs May 10 22:12:38 * kergoth chuckles May 10 22:12:46 XorA: blow off some body parts with the desert eagle May 10 22:13:22 koen: sniper rifling peoples legs off while on patrol :-) May 10 22:13:36 14 years old May 10 22:14:01 "Soldier of Fortune was best known for its graphic depictions of firearms dismembering the human body. " May 10 22:14:20 the soldiers used to hop around if you shot out their knees May 10 22:14:38 kergoth: thanks, i'll send the meta-python email a bit later May 10 22:14:56 XorA: I've been playing omf 2097 lately May 10 22:15:39 as in wipeout? May 10 22:17:02 Intel HD GFX ideal for retro OpenGL games :-) May 10 22:17:07 XorA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Must_Fall:_2097 May 10 22:17:10 dosbox :) May 10 22:17:25 20 years old May 10 22:18:16 1994 I was playing Amiga games May 10 22:18:46 I grew up with dos and os/2 May 10 22:18:51 (yes, that explains a lot) May 10 22:19:59 * nerdboy was beta tester for warp May 10 22:20:08 'nuff said May 10 22:21:11 I also had tokenring at home May 10 22:21:32 you want my tokenring printer card? May 10 22:21:53 wow, one must fall, i'd forgotten about that game. i remebmer playing it back in the day May 10 22:22:02 * kergoth pulls it down and runs it in dosbox/boxer May 10 22:22:15 * nerdboy wasn't *that* bad May 10 22:22:32 just ran coax for my first dialup network... May 10 22:22:59 * nerdboy looks for a terminator May 10 22:25:26 * XorA wonders where his copy of kingpin is May 10 22:27:10 I've been slowly but surely going through every game I own, steam, GOG, or otherwise, including many classic games, and getting them all to run on the mac via boxer (dosbox), wine, etc. Slow going, but >600 are working now :) May 10 22:31:16 nice get-out-of-the-house hobby, dude... May 10 22:31:56 i was kinda hoping other people got out more than i do lately... May 10 22:36:40 bah too many friendly casualties :-) May 10 22:51:09 you could always switch to real battle-bots... May 10 22:55:32 * XorA loads all his most violent games in preperation for Linaro sprints May 10 23:01:52 maybe try gokarts with JaMa|Off May 10 23:22:13 hazzah heretic May 10 23:23:03 heretic? May 10 23:28:45 ka6sox-home: the old ID software game May 10 23:29:05 oh right…been too long May 10 23:40:15 wow, i didn't think you'd mention anything i actually played... May 10 23:40:38 hehe, going old school tonight May 10 23:41:24 i remember playing the shit out of hexen 2 in coop. good stuff. both heretic and hexen have newer engines available, some with improved texture packs May 10 23:41:54 * kergoth has a mac wrapper for heretic which runs it under doomsday with the high resolution texture pack May 10 23:42:05 classic stuff May 10 23:42:24 yes, running doomsday for Doom1/2/Hexen/Heretic May 10 23:42:46 doomsday works great, it's come a long way from how it was originally May 10 23:44:14 i used to love that star trek mod... May 10 23:48:23 my fave was the aliens mod May 10 23:48:28 with face huggers May 10 23:49:48 * nerdboy also subscribed to alt-wesley-crusher-die-die-die May 10 23:50:26 speaking of usenet that might be the only group i remember.. May 10 23:50:39 crap going to need dosbox for some of this heretic stuff May 10 23:57:44 ah internet backup system solved the issue for me **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 11 03:00:00 2014