**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 30 03:00:00 2015 Jan 30 04:05:56 Good evening everyone. Jan 30 04:06:07 nrossi: I found out what was causing the problem with the partitions this morning. Jan 30 04:06:22 oldtopman: thats good to hear :) Jan 30 04:06:56 udev-extraconf appearantly adds some blacklist settings...this causes problems. Jan 30 04:07:07 Remove that from IMAGE_INSTALL_append, and you're good to go :) Jan 30 04:07:15 What's it supposed to do? Jan 30 04:07:34 oldtopman: ah yer, don't mix udev and systemd-udev ;) Jan 30 04:09:13 oldtopman: probably hitting a entry in the mount.blacklist Jan 30 04:09:21 https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-core/udev/udev-extraconf/mount.blacklist Jan 30 04:10:11 I have two more questions: Jan 30 04:10:30 First, how do you start x? ximit, startx, and session aren't on the system (in $PATH, at least). Jan 30 04:11:11 And second, is /etc/modules-load.d/ the correct place to put modules I want loaded at boot? Jan 30 04:11:51 oldtopman: #2: read the docs for modules-load.d http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/modules-load.d.html Jan 30 04:12:36 oldtopman: #1: not sure how x is started with systemd in oe. having a bit of a look give me a sec ;) Jan 30 04:18:48 oldtopman: is "xserver-nodm.service" running ? Jan 30 04:19:40 Not in 'ps', is there another way I should be checking? Jan 30 04:19:56 systemctl status xserver-nodm.service Jan 30 04:21:32 Nope. -> http://pastebin.com/hFLyH0v5 Jan 30 04:28:12 nrossi: Is there anywhere I can look for information on the way X is setup here? Jan 30 04:28:21 oldtopman: drop the core-image-sato, and go with the raw x11/matchbox depends: Jan 30 04:29:15 packagegroup-core-x11-base Jan 30 04:30:10 One step ahead of you. This is my local.conf right now. http://pastebin.com/1uAeVriy Jan 30 04:30:22 also, worth checking some configs of your build, bitbake -e > temp. And look for the following variable: VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_graphical_init_manager Jan 30 04:30:33 Though, packagegroup-core-x11-base isn't called for here, is it? https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-sato/packagegroups/packagegroup-core-x11-sato.bb Jan 30 04:31:23 its at the image level https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-sato/images/core-image-sato.bb#L5 Jan 30 04:35:58 There is no VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_graphical_init_manager variable. Jan 30 04:36:21 oldtopman: thats good then, it will be defaulted correctly Jan 30 04:38:03 Regarding these package groups (core-image-sato, packagegroup-core-x11-base), where are those groups being read from? Jan 30 04:39:51 core-image-sato is an image, the packagegroups are in https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/tree/master/meta/recipes-core/packagegroups Jan 30 04:43:30 Ah, found them. Jan 30 04:43:38 https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-graphics/packagegroups/packagegroup-core-x11-base.bb Jan 30 04:43:43 https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-graphics/packagegroups/packagegroup-core-x11-xserver.bb Jan 30 04:43:58 ah yes, sorry i just use github's 't' search thingy :) Jan 30 04:44:12 't'? Is that how you search for a filename? Jan 30 04:44:43 try it, when browing code press t to get a search for filename fuzzy logic search Jan 30 04:45:16 whaaaat. That's super-useful. Jan 30 04:46:04 5365 tasks, up from 4642. This might be a bit :p Jan 30 04:46:25 hmmm, it might need some more host deps to do its job Jan 30 04:46:54 xinit, xkeyboard, xrandr, x*, need to be compiled, it looks like. Jan 30 04:47:17 oldtopman: xinit, thats the one you are really after :) Jan 30 04:47:32 * oldtopman halts compilation, copies the binary, and burns the image :p Jan 30 05:09:30 nrossi: Alright, we have X! Jan 30 05:09:38 But no xterm, so xinit quits immidiately. Jan 30 05:09:50 And 'session' is still not found. Jan 30 05:12:23 But if I symlink matchbox-session to xterm, we're in business :D Jan 30 05:14:50 Heck, the touchscreen even works out of the box :o Jan 30 05:15:24 oldtopman: cool, what screen/etc are you using? Jan 30 05:15:55 This thing here - http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/28-USB-TFT-Display-Module-For-Raspberry-Pi-p-1699.html Jan 30 05:16:01 oldtopman: also the terminal you are after is matchbox-terminal Jan 30 05:16:24 It's got a touchscreen, looks decent, and has great linux support. Jan 30 05:16:40 thats pretty cool Jan 30 05:16:45 Just a kernel module away. I should probably write a recipe for it, but I just cross-compile it for now. Jan 30 05:16:52 price is not to bad either ;) Jan 30 05:17:00 I know, I'm really pleased with it. Jan 30 05:17:05 Best of all, good framerate. Jan 30 05:17:23 Going to play with a displaylink display next. Got one as a loaner from a friend of mine :D Jan 30 05:18:23 the funniest thing is that the display probably has a processor of similar power to the raspberrypi :P Jan 30 05:19:10 I dunno about that. It's arm, sure, but it doesn't seem particularly powerful. Jan 30 05:19:21 STM32F103 Jan 30 05:19:59 ah ok, maybe not as powerful :P Jan 30 05:22:13 Micro-computer, Micro-display, Micro-batteries...looks like we got a laptop here folx. Jan 30 05:24:03 oldtopman: missing the micro-keyboard :( Jan 30 05:24:29 Touchscreen. Also, little mini-bluetooth keyboard. Jan 30 05:24:41 (since I got to keep my bluetooth drivers this time Jan 30 05:25:47 Thank you so much! Jan 30 05:26:13 I wish I could express it enough to you, but I'll just have to pay it forwards :) Jan 30 05:26:17 oldtopman: no problem :) Jan 30 05:28:22 The least I can do is answer any questions you have about the esoteric Edison build system, if you have any. Jan 30 05:28:41 (or the edison itself, or anything you'd like to know, o- lord nrossi :P ) Jan 30 05:29:10 oldtopman: only one question, compared to all the SBC's you've used whats your opinion? Jan 30 05:29:19 (for the edison that is) Jan 30 05:30:07 Hmm... Jan 30 05:30:36 I've used the Yun, the first batch of the rpi, and this. Jan 30 05:30:51 This is the only one that feels like a "single board computer". Jan 30 05:31:41 The Yun has no power on the linux side, being a openwrt router with an arduino Leonardo taped to it. And the Rpi has too many glitches and bugs to be considered a "computer" Jan 30 05:32:18 This thing runs x86, has zero closed blobs, and can be easily recompiled, reconfigured, and extended. Jan 30 05:32:38 No display is a bit of a bummer, but I like it the best of the three, in my opinion. Jan 30 05:32:44 nrossi: ^ Jan 30 05:32:47 and its standalone excluding power ;) Jan 30 05:33:29 That's one of my problems with the pi. No built-in way to power the thing well. I stopped using mine because it would always brown-out when I attached a keyboard and mouse :/ Jan 30 05:34:07 What really seals the deal for me is that the Edison is cheaper than the Pi. Pi is Pi + SD card, + PSU + Bluetooth dongle + WiFi dongle Jan 30 05:34:18 Edison is Edison + microusb + breakout board Jan 30 05:34:49 oldtopman: will have to order a edison, it does really apeal to the embedded projects ;) Jan 30 05:35:49 Especially for an oe dev like you :p Jan 30 05:36:00 or power-user, at the very least. Jan 30 05:36:40 I recommend the Arduino breakout, for the extra USB/microUSB port, but there's nothing wrong with the mini-breakout, I hear (only have the Arduino, myself) Jan 30 05:40:55 oldtopman: hmmm the arduino board is +$30AUD more than the mini breakout, probably worth it though for the fullsize usb and i/o shifting Jan 30 05:41:55 nrossi: I haven't used any of the actual arduino-bits myself yet, but I hear the SPI doesn't support DMA (yet, Intel promises an update around 'new year' a month ago). Jan 30 05:42:46 Definitely worth it for the USB. You can have fullsize, well powered USB, serial console, and have reflash connected all at the same time. Jan 30 05:43:09 (though, you have to flip a physical switch between flashing and usb host mode) Jan 30 09:13:40 nrossi: saw your AMP example on meta-xilinx mailinglist; where did you find the FreeRTOS source code? I've been trying to find a complete set of sources in the various releases of PetaLinux, but they only seem to contain partial sources and a few pre-compiled binaries Jan 30 09:35:12 morning bluelightning Jan 30 09:35:25 are you in brussels yet? Jan 30 09:36:38 hi mago_, all Jan 30 09:36:57 no, my train is in a few hours Jan 30 09:38:15 wish i could go, but my girlfriend NAK'd it.. Jan 30 09:38:37 ah shame... maybe next year Jan 30 19:24:00 Does someone know if there is someone working on systemd yocto recipe to upgrade versions from 216 to 218 ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 31 02:59:58 2015