**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 24 02:59:58 2015 Feb 24 08:41:13 hi. I have an embedded system and I have two mini pcie wireless cards that I can use, DHXA-222 and WPEA-121N. If I connect WPEA-121N alone into the board, the system recognizes it without any problem. However, if I plug only DHXA-222, it doesn't show up anywhere, neither in dmesg nor in lspci. Feb 24 08:41:49 I have two mini pcie slots on the board. If I connect both at the same time, none of the are recognized. Could anyone help me out what the problem could be here? Feb 24 09:34:59 morning all Feb 24 09:45:46 i can't help it if people don't believe me... Feb 24 09:46:16 "morning all" and then he sneaks off to steal all the donuts Feb 24 09:48:05 hi bl Feb 24 10:05:12 hey woglinde Feb 24 10:05:37 * nerdboy got busy for a while promises to be at elc Feb 24 10:05:54 insert comma or something... Feb 24 15:52:36 hi, any oe-alliance developer around? Feb 24 17:34:18 moin Feb 24 17:34:39 hi nerdboy Feb 24 19:38:44 * nerdboy can't help but chuckle at the antics Feb 24 19:39:10 melodrama? Feb 24 20:47:07 anyone know if the default install of dnsmasq will hand out dhcp addresses with the default install Feb 24 20:47:23 I'd prefer it not work until the user provides reasonable config Feb 24 21:02:54 it does Feb 24 21:03:03 or it did in past Feb 24 21:23:47 that would be less than optimal for first bring-up on a lan... Feb 24 21:24:08 * nerdboy remebers some campus horror stories of just that Feb 24 21:24:27 *remembers even Feb 24 22:55:53 * Crofton tried to remember how to request pacthes be moved to dizzy Feb 24 22:57:47 otavio, do you and armpit take requests to cherry-pick specific git hashes for dizzy? Feb 24 22:58:42 Crofton: for what? Feb 24 22:59:05 Crofton: meta-fsl-arm, meta-oe, meta-qt5, meta-java and meta-fsl-arm-extra I do :) Feb 24 22:59:12 Crofton: ah, meta-browser as well Feb 24 22:59:25 meta-python Feb 24 22:59:26 hmm Feb 24 22:59:32 Crofton: meta-oe Feb 24 22:59:33 better shceck that README Feb 24 22:59:35 Crofton: so yes Feb 24 23:00:06 I need to check my pyqt stuff Feb 24 23:00:23 but I am getting lots of requests from customers that I can fix by moving it to dizzy Feb 24 23:00:36 I was trying to stall for next release :) Feb 24 23:02:45 Crofton: makes sense. Feb 24 23:03:08 Crofton: so please prepare an email with the details and hashes which need cherry-pick Feb 24 23:03:17 it did, for a while Feb 24 23:03:28 Crofton: add myself and armin Feb 24 23:03:32 Crofton: really? Feb 24 23:03:42 Crofton: have the message-id? Feb 24 23:03:46 the stalling :) Feb 24 23:03:56 I need to make sure it is one commit Feb 24 23:05:56 Crofton: sorry but I didn't follow you Feb 24 23:06:40 Crofton: shhh... you're giving away all the secrets... Feb 24 23:14:26 otavio, I was trying to avoid asking for pyqt in dizzy by waiting for the next release. But too many requests coming in Feb 24 23:15:11 oh crao Feb 24 23:15:23 my vms broke on update Feb 24 23:16:06 weird Feb 24 23:16:13 2 of 3 work Feb 24 23:26:04 wew Feb 24 23:26:09 fixed Feb 24 23:26:24 nerdboy, that was you helping with the talk at SCALE? Feb 24 23:26:59 i wrote the talk at scale... Feb 24 23:27:14 the yocto crash course one and the arm embedded one Feb 24 23:27:20 cool Feb 24 23:27:32 otavio, It is a set of three patches for pyqt Feb 24 23:27:39 stephanie did usb quirks and buid root vs. oe Feb 24 23:28:09 Do you know id the build root versus OE one is online? Feb 24 23:28:22 Crofton: so people send this to us once again Feb 24 23:28:28 Crofton: and add me on cc Feb 24 23:28:32 Crofton: i will be there to irritate you next month Feb 24 23:28:43 er, "encourage" you... Feb 24 23:28:56 nerdboy, thanks Feb 24 23:29:14 the scale stuff is supposed to be but i don't know where yet Feb 24 23:29:17 otavio, I'm glad I checked before making a fool of myself :) Feb 24 23:29:26 our stuff is on github mostly Feb 24 23:29:58 Thomas Pettazoni (I'm sure I amngled his name) is interested in the OE vs BR talk Feb 24 23:32:39 I would do Feb 24 23:32:42 Crofton: hang on a few and she'll push them to the crash-course repo Feb 24 23:33:50 I'm hoping fo rvideo Feb 24 23:34:02 ka6sox, any insight into SCALE videos? Feb 24 23:34:14 nm, she says check repo tomorrow (think she's onsite with customer now) Feb 24 23:34:56 there should be for hers, but not for my embedded talk... Feb 24 23:35:28 https://github.com/VCTLabs/yocto-crash-course Feb 24 23:35:51 video i mean Feb 24 23:36:36 thanks Feb 24 23:39:10 np Feb 24 23:39:26 Crofton: did you see bluelightning proposal about the devtool integration? Feb 24 23:39:44 I skimmed it Feb 24 23:39:58 I disliked the way it is being integrated Feb 24 23:39:59 look slike there is discussion about how this differs from existing sdk support Feb 24 23:40:06 I saw the emails Feb 24 23:40:27 it does Feb 24 23:40:37 but from user point of view it is not different Feb 24 23:40:45 it is just the tooling Feb 24 23:41:03 and it will be quite confusing to explain to usrs the differences Feb 24 23:41:06 :-( Feb 24 23:41:13 the issue is bitbake -c populate_sdk vs populate_sdk_ext Feb 24 23:41:20 not only Feb 24 23:41:31 we ought to be able to 'tune' the SDK Feb 24 23:41:41 and add/remove features Feb 24 23:42:28 as in SDK_IMAGE_FEATURES ? Feb 24 23:42:30 and we are pushing up against the release so there is time pressure to ge this in Feb 24 23:42:41 To be honest, I think it is very late in the cycle Feb 24 23:43:01 for me this should not be merged so late in the cycle Feb 24 23:43:22 * nerdboy wouldn't start on that at end of cycle Feb 24 23:43:38 beginning maybe Feb 24 23:43:48 we should have smething in line of merge window Feb 24 23:43:59 of 3 or 4 weeks Feb 24 23:44:04 and done. Feb 24 23:44:07 Bugfixes Feb 24 23:44:56 it feels like we have a bad habit of developing stuff starting after a release, then merging late Feb 24 23:45:09 and everyone having a lot of time pressure, forcing merges Feb 24 23:45:16 Yes. This is bad Feb 24 23:45:24 and we have suffered a lot in last cycle Feb 24 23:45:53 and YP and OE are huge enough and more and more people and companies are relying on it Feb 24 23:46:00 so we ought to be stable Feb 24 23:47:58 basically, if it goes in now, my suspiciion is that there will be a ot of backports to make it work Feb 24 23:48:31 Worse. We may realize it is wrong and we will have a backward history on it Feb 24 23:50:27 But the reason is not just the late in cycle; it is big enough to be risky of breaking things and the reference code has been released just now. So no time for comments / reviews and like. Feb 24 23:50:31 So this is wrong. Feb 24 23:50:46 previous workplace loved to squeeze test time and keep shoving things in Feb 24 23:50:53 I am here, btw, you can talk to me... Feb 24 23:51:03 FWIW, I have taken pains to implement it in a manner that _does not_ lead to breakage Feb 24 23:51:07 * nerdboy kept telling them not to Feb 24 23:51:10 bluelightning: I thought you were going in. So I highlighted you Feb 24 23:51:29 otavio: had I in fact implemented it in the way you suggested, that would have been a big risk Feb 24 23:52:31 apparently they had a conceptual problem code-freeze and a whole lot more... Feb 24 23:53:04 bluelightning, I figured it was way past your work hours Feb 24 23:53:08 I agree, we do have a big problem with people rushing towards the end of a milestone, because it's get it in now, or wait until next release Feb 24 23:53:17 bluelightning: as I said. I dislike the way it has been implemented. But this is not the biggest problem I am having ... this is the rushing Feb 24 23:53:31 it's not a new problem Feb 24 23:53:34 we need to talk about the cycle Feb 24 23:53:38 bluelightning: and Dizzy was a nightmare Feb 24 23:53:54 bluelightning: we had several last minutes disrruptive changes Feb 24 23:54:04 bluelightning: and seems we didn't learn from the past Feb 24 23:54:14 bluelightning: and been driving in same direction Feb 24 23:54:29 the schedule probably needs looking at, but I think if it says anything it says that we need more people to pitch in and help Feb 24 23:54:56 we get precious little help on testing, for example Feb 24 23:55:12 I was going to say, wic started coming along because we used it from dizzy Feb 24 23:56:21 where's schedule posted? Feb 24 23:56:35 Crofton: agreed. But to be honest it would be good to have it more tested before merging. We had a lot of backports snce it was out Feb 24 23:57:00 nerdboy: for the Yocto Project at least: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_1.8_Schedule Feb 24 23:57:16 Crofton: if it were in now it wouldn't chage much as most people are starting to integrate the other BSPs now Feb 24 23:57:39 FYI, we are at the end of M3, there is still the M4 stabilisation milestone to go Feb 24 23:58:49 was thinking we could do a test event maybe Feb 24 23:58:58 "we" as in vct Feb 24 23:58:59 One of my related concerns is we will keep bolting things onto OE and not moving to a more modualr architecture Feb 24 23:59:35 but we have two march conferences/commitments before 24 march Feb 24 23:59:44 better after Feb 24 23:59:56 at any rate, this is a good OEDAM topic Feb 25 00:00:03 Crofton: that is a good point and we should definitely think about that Feb 25 00:00:04 yes. and seems like M4 is too short in fact Feb 25 00:00:44 Crofton: is there an updated oedam page somewhere? Feb 25 00:01:00 the underlying problem is we do not have enough manpower to implement some of the architecutral changes Feb 25 00:01:10 http://openembedded.org/OEDAM Feb 25 00:01:31 EVERYONE read, add topics, and try to attend Feb 25 00:01:35 Crofton: agreed but this just mean we ought to focus more on those. And move them ahead. Feb 25 00:01:39 ^^^ Feb 25 00:01:41 Crofton: I won't go :( Feb 25 00:01:52 otavio, need bodies to do work Feb 25 00:01:54 we have some decent bandwidth for stablization maybe Feb 25 00:02:09 and we are working on making sure we can have a hangout for people not there Feb 25 00:02:10 otavio: hopefully you can attend OEDAM remotely - it worked OK last time Feb 25 00:02:23 bluelightning: 28 is my graduation Feb 25 00:02:28 bluelightning: (my second :P) Feb 25 00:02:40 otavio: that's great, congrats :D Feb 25 00:03:49 * nerdboy doesn't know spelling of caiperinho ? Feb 25 00:03:53 cheers Feb 25 00:04:04 27 I can likely do Feb 25 00:04:09 otavio, what degree? Feb 25 00:04:37 Crofton: I am graduated in Computer Science, and now finished Business Administration. Feb 25 00:04:44 Bacharel Feb 25 00:04:46 Congratualtions Feb 25 00:04:48 :) Feb 25 00:05:02 * Crofton will try a pull request for the pyqt fixes Feb 25 00:05:03 i just looked for that like a week ago and it was last year's... Feb 25 00:05:18 I think an elf updated the link Feb 25 00:07:19 ah, must be scale-sleep-sapping... Feb 25 00:07:38 otavio: i was think this is it => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacha%C3%A7a Feb 25 00:07:49 cheers and congrats Feb 25 00:07:59 nerdboy: yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feb 25 00:08:00 :) Feb 25 00:08:08 I took two yesterday Feb 25 00:08:09 :) Feb 25 00:08:26 students... Feb 25 00:08:51 nerdboy: not really Feb 25 00:09:18 * nerdboy was geophysics major, knows about that stuff Feb 25 00:10:40 nerdboy: I friend of my and I went yesterday pub ... we took two Caipirinha Feb 25 00:10:47 at least the mexican varieties... wife knows the brasilian version... Feb 25 00:11:10 that's the spelling Feb 25 00:23:57 nerdboy: it is very nice Feb 25 00:24:31 nerdboy: I do like it; it tastes very different from place to place and people also does with different flavours (using fruits) Feb 25 00:24:34 so it is veyr nice Feb 25 00:25:15 morning all Feb 25 00:26:50 is it shift change already? Feb 25 00:26:58 ? Feb 25 00:27:15 evening/morning Feb 25 00:27:36 day shift / night shift Feb 25 00:27:48 yep shift change, just let me punch my time card ;) Feb 25 00:28:24 who gets to be ralph? Feb 25 00:29:21 ok attempting a github pull request, hopefully I do not embaress myself Feb 25 00:30:27 nerdboy: whos ralph? :| Feb 25 00:31:10 hmm is the openembedded.org server down or is it just my IT department wrecking the party? Feb 25 00:33:57 git.openembedded.org works on my PC Feb 25 00:33:58 nrossi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_u3YRZb74w Feb 25 00:35:01 back when cartoons were funny... Feb 25 00:36:10 extra short clip is the answer Feb 25 00:36:14 nerdboy: :) Feb 25 00:38:20 annoying, no email for github pull request Feb 25 00:39:20 Crofton: if you create the pull request you dont get the email Feb 25 00:39:59 I do not see one on the meta-oe list Feb 25 00:40:44 Crotfon: Is it setup to send notifications to the list? Feb 25 00:41:20 likely not Feb 25 00:41:38 normally I jsut send one patch backport requests Feb 25 00:41:49 Crofton: also it looks like you did it against the old "meta-oe" repo Feb 25 00:43:03 grrr Feb 25 00:43:06 Crofton: not sure that counts as embarrassing Feb 25 00:43:25 * nerdboy is confused by renaming repos too Feb 25 00:43:33 I've been fixing new checkouts Feb 25 00:43:35 Crofton: i always confuse myself with that. Probably should just remove the old names and setup redirects Feb 25 00:43:58 because of people like me who haven't recloned in ages Feb 25 00:44:54 if you want embarrassment, you need to aim much higher Feb 25 00:45:06 I added that to the OEDAM agenda Feb 25 00:45:14 * nerdboy considers the options Feb 25 00:45:37 maybe show up to oedam without any pants? Feb 25 00:46:21 er, that might be overkill... Feb 25 00:46:29 nerdboy: probably :P Feb 25 00:47:09 shorts at least Feb 25 00:47:46 i didn't exclude shorts Feb 25 00:47:57 * nerdboy thanks his lucky starts Feb 25 00:48:06 *stars even Feb 25 00:49:48 * nerdboy might be decompressing after too many deadlines Feb 25 00:50:09 then press on elc talk a little more... Feb 25 00:50:29 not sure how many slides Feb 25 01:14:25 nrossi, ping Feb 25 01:16:40 Crofton: yo Feb 25 01:17:15 Hey, I'm working on getting a u-boot 2015.1 recipe together Feb 25 01:17:40 and copying the 2014 one and changing the git has pretty much works except SPL barfed Feb 25 01:17:49 yay for newer u-boot Feb 25 01:17:49 something anout not finding some dtb files Feb 25 01:17:54 is this an easy fix? Feb 25 01:18:03 for zynq btq Feb 25 01:18:30 are those files in the source tree? Feb 25 01:18:31 Crofton: hmmm, not sure are you using upstream or the -xlnx repo? Feb 25 01:18:39 -xlnx :) Feb 25 01:18:48 can make the config? Feb 25 01:18:52 let me copy the binaries over and get the real messages Feb 25 01:19:09 th eu-boot.img worked with the old boot.bin Feb 25 01:19:41 Crofton: which board? Zedboard? Feb 25 01:19:48 * nerdboy using mainline u-boot several places Feb 25 01:20:04 Ettus E310 :) Feb 25 01:20:35 Crofton: i see, did you make a u-boot devicetree for it? Feb 25 01:20:56 Crofton: or are you relying on the configs for a equivalent board? Feb 25 01:21:00 no Feb 25 01:21:11 I was hoping I could avoid the u-boot device tree Feb 25 01:21:32 i haven't got onto the new u-boot for that exact reason ;) Feb 25 01:21:44 any idea who I can bug? Feb 25 01:21:51 the u-boot.img was fine Feb 25 01:21:58 and I ahve it saving env to SD card Feb 25 01:22:27 Michal should know, but hes Czech time zone, so :| Feb 25 01:23:11 have you tried it on the zedboard, curious if its just an issue with spl in general Feb 25 01:23:52 I haven't had a chance Feb 25 01:23:59 I'm in CA and the zedboard is at home Feb 25 01:24:24 my overlap with him is poor from this coast Feb 25 01:24:44 I'll dupe the messages and send to meta-xilinx Feb 25 01:24:46 Crofton: k, i will see if i can reproduce the issue here. If so i will query him later for you Feb 25 01:24:54 and maybe the main u-boot guys can help Feb 25 01:25:21 Crofton: curiously do you rely on any of the features from the -xlnx u-boot? Feb 25 01:26:07 http://pastebin.com/gKuLwnr1 Feb 25 01:26:12 I'm not sure :) Feb 25 01:26:20 We do load the fpga at boot time Feb 25 01:26:44 basically, it looks like -xlnx is very close to mainline Feb 25 01:26:51 Crofton: i think fpga loading is in the mainline version Feb 25 01:26:57 so I copied recipe and patched config a little Feb 25 01:26:59 it is i believe, some minor driver things Feb 25 01:27:06 I was in a hurry :) Feb 25 01:27:24 I needed to setup save env to sd card FAT Feb 25 01:27:33 in a hurry Feb 25 01:33:52 2015.01 builds spl for beaglebone for me... Feb 25 01:34:13 yeah, this is likely something in my config Feb 25 01:34:22 freescale doesn't use that afaict Feb 25 01:35:01 and my allwinner u-boot is vendor-sticky version Feb 25 01:44:06 are the remote people supposed to go on the wiki too? Feb 25 01:44:19 *remote oedam attendees Feb 25 01:45:27 that would be helpful Feb 25 01:45:37 just so we ahve an idea what the interest is Feb 25 01:46:18 Crofton: what sort of time is the start/end of the OEDAM sessions? Feb 25 01:46:52 say 0900 PDT Feb 25 01:46:59 run until around 5 PM Feb 25 01:47:24 it is almost 6PM now, but sandard time, not daylight time Feb 25 01:47:55 Crofton: ok so pretty much my sleep time ;) Feb 25 01:48:08 not much we can do about that Feb 25 01:49:03 Crofton: oh no its fine, just wanted to check. It actually starts on Saturday ~2am my time so i might be able to join in for a couple of hours :D Feb 25 01:54:23 Crofton: this the error you were seeing with u-boot "spl_load_image_fat: error reading image u-boot-dtb.img, err - -1" Feb 25 01:54:37 seems it is trying to load a mysterious -dtb.img only Feb 25 01:55:31 nrossi: buy an espresso machine? Feb 25 01:56:36 nerdboy: nah, im noctural... :D Feb 25 01:56:55 well, couple hours is nothing... Feb 25 01:57:44 nerdboy: its summer here, sun starts rising by 6a :P Feb 25 01:58:00 yep Feb 25 01:58:31 took that long to get camera dialed in last time... Feb 25 01:58:41 Crofton: renaming the .img file to u-boot-dtb.img and it just works. Guess it might be a change in the default name of the img file Feb 25 01:59:37 okay nrossi, spill it. which part of southern hemisphere? Feb 25 01:59:45 ah Feb 25 01:59:56 nerdboy: down under mate :) Feb 25 02:01:30 nrossi, that was too obvious Feb 25 02:01:32 thanks Feb 25 02:04:20 "./include/configs/zynq-common.h:485:#define CONFIG_SPL_FS_LOAD_PAYLOAD_NAME "u-boot-dtb.img"" Feb 25 02:04:50 Crofton: looks like it might be a zynq config thing, will query Michal later to see if thats what it will be upstream/etc. Feb 25 02:17:08 * nerdboy thought the time was more offset than that Feb 25 02:20:22 nrossi, also need to see if we can just switch to mainline Feb 25 02:31:59 Crofton, I need about 3hrs to expand the Master server for the OE source repo to handle the different sources. Feb 25 02:32:20 when? Feb 25 02:32:22 then setup the CDN stuff to mirror Feb 25 02:32:27 thats why I'm asking Feb 25 02:32:40 the lowest usage is 5pm west coast till 11pm Feb 25 02:32:43 as usual around this time seems slow Feb 25 02:32:46 yeah Feb 25 02:33:10 I'll do it tomorrow. Feb 25 02:33:18 give 24hrs notice Feb 25 02:33:39 I need to message the Yocto ML and or-core ones too right? Feb 25 02:33:46 OE-Core Feb 25 02:34:02 always a good idea Feb 25 02:34:05 kk Feb 25 02:34:15 hopefully I won't get moderated…I never post there. Feb 25 02:36:07 pretty sure I get notified Feb 25 02:39:16 * nerdboy updated the wiki Feb 25 02:39:37 and i'm serious about the cake part... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 25 02:59:58 2015