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Apr 23 04:37:32 <kanupatar> hi guys
Apr 23 04:37:39 <kanupatar> good morning
Apr 23 08:58:46 <bluelightning> morning all
Apr 23 09:10:58 <Jin^eLD> mornin bluelightning 
Apr 23 09:22:35 <RP> woglinde: don't suppose you're around?
Apr 23 09:43:15 <woglinde> hello RP
Apr 23 09:51:16 <RP> woglinde: Hi! Was wondering if you had any ideas about a java performance issue I'm seeing. I'm running eclipse against openjdk from meta-java but there seems to be a big performance difference between libjvm.so from our build and the one from my Ubuntu desktop system. The Ubuntu one says its in Server mixed mode (with java -version), the OE built one says Zero interpreted mode. Am I missing something obvious?
Apr 23 09:51:39 <RP> woglinde: I can't see to put the OE one into server mode at all
Apr 23 09:52:05 <RP> woglinde: java is not something I know anything about :/
Apr 23 09:52:20 <woglinde> rp which architecture?
Apr 23 09:52:33 <RP> woglinde: amd64
Apr 23 09:52:39 <woglinde> hm okay yes
Apr 23 09:52:53 <woglinde> amd64 has a full hotspot
Apr 23 09:53:12 <woglinde> but looks like we only build zero even for amd64
Apr 23 09:53:43 <woglinde> and to be hontest I never tested x86 or x64 builds from meta-java
Apr 23 09:54:11 <RP> woglinde: fair enough. Any hints about what I need to enable? Is this shark?
Apr 23 09:54:41 <woglinde> which version?
Apr 23 09:54:45 <woglinde> do you use
Apr 23 09:55:53 <RP> woglinde: openjdk-7-jre/25b30-2.3.12-r5.1
Apr 23 09:56:55 <woglinde> hm okay
Apr 23 09:57:22 <woglinde> I would also suggest use the patches from sven ebenfeld which builds you a newer version
Apr 23 09:58:07 <RP> woglinde: I was just using what was in the repo :)
Apr 23 09:58:07 <woglinde> they are not in master yet because they are not tested again uclibc
Apr 23 09:58:16 <RP> woglinde: fair enough
Apr 23 09:58:22 <woglinde> yes and that version is old
Apr 23 09:58:28 <woglinde> compare to ubuntu
Apr 23 09:59:04 <woglinde> hm 2.5.5 is now released
Apr 23 10:00:27 <woglinde> rp sorry I have no much time at the moment but you could apt-get source opnejdk-7-jre on ubuntu and look at the rules file for what is needed for the full citizen hotspot
Apr 23 10:01:20 <RP> woglinde: ok, thanks. I was just hoping I was missing something simple! 
Apr 23 10:01:34 <woglinde> http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/icedtea7/file/eaf44fc8a98e/acinclude.m4 around line 704
Apr 23 10:03:18 <RP> woglinde: thanks, that helps
Apr 23 10:06:19 <koen> RP: https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/meta-angstrom/commit/2b1c1bee4d55307e844b8bb1cbf4f419e5a3092e
Apr 23 10:06:36 <koen> RP: that made jenkins run 10-20x faster on my i7
Apr 23 10:07:17 <RP> koen: that looks like just what I need, thanks!
Apr 23 10:07:23 <woglinde> koen thanks for throwing it back to meta-java
Apr 23 10:08:18 <koen> didn't khem submit it a few years ago?
Apr 23 10:08:42 <woglinde> why you need a tweak than?
Apr 23 10:09:07 <woglinde> and why RP's build say zero is usef
Apr 23 10:09:11 <woglinde> args used
Apr 23 10:19:11 <koen> submitting stuff to meta-java isn't a guarantee that it gets applied
Apr 23 10:31:39 <koen> woglinde: and that's a tweak for 2013.12, I haven't checked if more recent versions need it
Apr 23 11:07:39 <RP> koen: confirmed that helps a lot in my VM
Apr 23 11:18:43 <koen> RP: thanks!
Apr 23 11:19:13 <koen> I guess I should see if openjdk builds for fido and master and try submitting it upstream
Apr 23 11:19:40 <koen> something on the host side breaks the openjdk builds since 2013.12 :(
Apr 23 11:23:10 <woglinde> koen otavio is now responsible for meta-java 
Apr 23 13:11:04 <spasz> Hi, Can i have svn:// repos in layers.txt file? Or oebb.sh don't understand svn protocol?
Apr 23 13:29:40 <bluelightning> spasz: despite the name, oebb.sh is an Angstrom-specific thing... I believe it is limited to git only though
Apr 23 13:36:46 <spasz> bluelightning, Thank you for answer. Now i clearly see what to do.
Apr 23 13:37:14 <RP> koen: I'd had issues with dash FWIW but am planning to send patches
Apr 23 13:37:28 <spasz> BTW : Do you know how to generate system image without package maanger, for example : without opkg, with only busybox?
Apr 23 13:40:48 <bluelightning> spasz: that is controlled by package-manager being in IMAGE_FEATURES - if it's present, then the package manager (e.g. opkg) will be installed
Apr 23 13:41:00 <bluelightning> spasz: the Angstrom default is to include it
Apr 23 19:20:50 <Crofton|work> Anyone know how to reset the populare counters on oe.org (mediawiki)
Apr 23 21:08:31 <Crofton|work> What do you guys think?
Apr 23 21:08:32 <Crofton|work> http://openembedded.org/wiki/Jobs
Apr 23 21:08:44 <Crofton|work> I got the first job from linkedin
Apr 23 21:09:19 <fray> cool
Apr 23 21:09:25 <bluelightning> Crofton|work: not a bad idea
Apr 23 21:09:41 <Crofton|work> Hopefully that is enough structure
Apr 23 21:09:45 <bluelightning> Crofton|work: I wonder about a dynamic query on one or more job sites though
Apr 23 21:09:48 <Crofton|work> and we can wack the old stuff easily
Apr 23 21:10:27 <Crofton|work> you dynamic web guys have at it
Apr 23 21:10:37 <Crofton|work> I'm old school
Apr 23 21:11:04 <Crofton|work> I would like to think these will be a higher quality of jobs since someone had to know where to post them :)
Apr 23 21:11:19 <Crofton|work> We need to go over the Categories also
Apr 23 21:11:41 <Crofton|work> I got the sample job from linkedin
Apr 23 21:12:06 <Crofton|work> first one that easn't head hunter or dod contractor
Apr 23 21:12:14 <bluelightning> heh
Apr 23 21:15:15 <Crofton|work> at any rate, if you know your company is hiring, please put links to postings here
Apr 23 21:15:24 <Crofton|work> so we self select what appears :)
Apr 23 21:41:52 <ant_home> Crofton|work: about credentials, I've readded git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded to Ohloh/Black Duck
Apr 23 21:42:14 <ant_home> many commits there...
Apr 23 21:53:02 <Crofton|work> hmm
Apr 23 21:53:19 <Crofton|work> We need to check what is there, seems like we may have dupes
Apr 23 21:53:29 <Crofton|work> url?
Apr 23 21:53:37 <kergoth> http://tiffzhang.com/startup/
Apr 23 21:53:41 <kergoth> (OT, but amusing)
Apr 23 21:54:06 <ant_home> and somme layers are missing
Apr 23 21:54:23 <Crofton|work> good point
Apr 23 21:54:25 <ant_home> I for me I've lost approx 1.000 commits ;)
Apr 23 21:54:32 <Crofton|work> ouch
Apr 23 21:55:01 <Crofton|work> ant_home, do you have th eurl?
Apr 23 21:55:02 <ant_home> Update Status: No job is scheduled ???
Apr 23 21:55:16 <ant_home> https://www.openhub.net/p/openembedded/enlistments
Apr 23 21:56:13 <Crofton|work> patience, I suspect it doesn't scan much
Apr 23 21:56:23 <Crofton|work> We need to make sure peopl eknow ift is stale though
Apr 23 21:56:47 <Crofton|work> and encourage people to add layers
Apr 23 21:56:59 <ant_home> old Ohloh was more up-to-date, now 3 months behind
Apr 23 21:57:49 <Crofton|work> ant_home, also talk with Jefro about things like this
Apr 23 21:57:58 <Crofton|work> he loves metrics
Apr 23 21:58:05 <ant_home> good to know
Apr 23 21:58:07 <ant_home> :p
Apr 23 21:58:15 <Crofton|work> I really do not want to lose the time for oe-classic from openhib
Apr 23 21:58:31 <Crofton|work> the project lifetime is really importnant
Apr 23 21:59:38 <ant_home> I don't know where the headhunters are looking at
Apr 23 21:59:53 <Crofton|work> search linkedin
Apr 23 22:00:01 <Crofton|work> there are some obvious headhunter postings
Apr 23 22:00:13 * ant_home removed hisself long ago
Apr 23 22:00:26 <Crofton|work> linkedin is a great trolling platform
Apr 23 22:01:13 <ant_home> maybe I'm just too old to appreciate that Circlez...
Apr 23 22:01:20 <Crofton|work> :)
Apr 23 22:02:01 <Crofton|work> OK, now I need to add a page for peopl eto list their trainging services
Apr 23 22:02:32 <Crofton|work> Then we need to present the categories better on the home page
Apr 23 22:23:18 <Crofton|work> http://openembedded.org/wiki/Training
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