**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 28 02:59:58 2016 Jun 28 08:39:41 morning Jun 28 08:40:38 good morning Jun 28 08:52:13 godt dag Jun 28 08:58:19 guys, maybe someone has a hint forme; I have a nand mtd partition and I would like to use a filesystem only on the half of the partition (there are some reasons for that); I know that would probably not be a problem with ext2/3/4,but I need something that supports wear levelling Jun 28 08:59:03 jffs2 does not seem to have an offset parameter thatwouldallow to put it further back in the partition Jun 28 08:59:20 and if put in front it will always consume the whole partition to its end Jun 28 09:00:06 currently trying my luck with ubifs but wasnot able to figure itout yet, if anyone has further idea's I'd very much appreciate any input:) Jun 28 09:00:37 and sorry for being somewhat off topic :P Jun 28 09:25:12 Jin^eLD: jffs2 is generally a bad idea for the sizes todays nand memories. here we're going with ubi/ubifs, and i hear lately samsung supplied another flash-suitable fs too. Jun 28 09:27:13 LetoThe2nd: the partition is quite small, for suchsizes jffs2 is still a valid option,ubifs needsmuch more space Jun 28 09:27:23 I am talking 15-20mb "small" Jun 28 09:27:40 Jin^eLD: hm, ok? Jun 28 09:27:44 but my problem is to figure out how to use "half of the partition" Jun 28 09:28:03 because I amnot allowed to use all of it,thereis some stuff thats written raw there as well Jun 28 09:28:07 Jin^eLD: you do not use half of the partition, you make two partitions of half the size :-) Jun 28 09:28:09 and I can't repartition either Jun 28 09:28:22 well that won't work. Jun 28 09:28:42 it would with ext.. which I again cant use because of the wear levelling stuff Jun 28 09:29:02 life is full of bad choices. Jun 28 09:29:16 tell me about it :P Jun 28 09:29:44 but i see nothing that fills the bill of "use only a part of a partition, be flash aware, and space efficient" Jun 28 09:30:28 without RW you could put a squashfs blob there, that has a known size. leaving out the rest for your magic raw writes. Jun 28 09:30:37 does it help if we drop the "space efficient" part? :) I did not manage to tell ubi to use part ofthe partition either Jun 28 09:30:53 well, unfortunately I do need to write there Jun 28 09:31:06 well fs are meant to use partitions. can't blame them for that. Jun 28 09:31:28 I will probabl end up with using nandwrite,but I really wanted to avoid that Jun 28 09:31:56 I also tried goingvia loopback andit almostworked with jffs2,but only almost Jun 28 09:32:32 heh, emulating mtds is not really a production ready technique Jun 28 09:32:50 dunno, I found references to 2.6 kernel like modprobe blkmtd device=/dev/loopX Jun 28 09:32:59 but couldnot really reproduce that on 4.1 Jun 28 09:33:31 of course, there are a couple of emulation techniques in kernel. but nothing that i'd use out in the wild, that stuff is more like meant for dev purposes. Jun 28 09:33:38 hmm Jun 28 09:33:57 any clue about logfs? I did notyethave the chance to tryit Jun 28 09:34:18 no idea about it Jun 28 09:35:30 Jin^eLD: samsungs pitch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F2FS Jun 28 09:36:01 let me have a look,thanks Jun 28 12:32:41 What is the current thinking on using tarballs from github? Jun 28 12:37:09 they're generated from git archive so shouldn't be changing Jun 28 12:39:13 ok, I recall there were issues in the past Jun 28 12:39:49 Has the Queen sent the politicians to the tower yet? Jun 28 12:40:07 download url for zeromq changed to github Jun 28 13:05:22 grr Jun 28 13:05:31 everything is broken Jun 28 13:07:18 tell me about it Jun 28 13:13:10 trying to check gnuradio on gcc6 Jun 28 13:13:35 had a zmq issue, so tried updated, but it won't build, though maybe updating libsodium would help, but it isn't building Jun 28 13:13:42 0900 and Iam ready to drink Jun 28 13:20:55 gah Jun 28 13:21:01 sodium is fine Jun 28 13:22:24 and if I use libsoduium for crypto zmq builds Jun 28 13:35:04 and gnuradio still doesn't need to rule #5 on my gcc6isms Jun 28 19:07:21 Crofton|work: share the errors Jun 28 19:07:59 I got down to libsoium can update and zmq builds with libsodium not internal Jun 28 19:08:13 working on something else, but will go back and sort this out Jun 28 19:11:19 ok Jun 28 19:13:59 ha some gcc6ism in gnuradio that I needed to get submitted before stuff gets released :) Jun 28 19:14:28 what does that mean Jun 28 19:14:42 did gnuradio know of gcc6 beforehand Jun 28 19:14:58 or do you mean gcc6 is finding errors which were latent Jun 28 19:14:59 compile issue Jun 28 19:15:06 in some zmq stuff Jun 28 19:15:13 that is why I checked version of zmq Jun 28 19:18:13 Crofton|work: does gnuradion work with musl ? Jun 28 19:18:17 you should try that Jun 28 19:18:29 I'll put it on the todo list :) Jun 28 19:18:49 then you can claim it to be posix compliant Jun 28 19:19:00 heh Jun 28 19:19:17 musl is surprisingly very performant **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 29 02:59:58 2016