**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 24 03:00:01 2018
Jan 24 07:02:49 <OnkelUlla> vmeson: Sorry to answer only so late. The mechanism you propose does not disable busybox' klogd, right?
Jan 24 07:03:32 <OnkelUlla> vmeson: But especially thanks for the "systemd: enable forwarding messages to syslog daemon" hint!
Jan 24 14:05:24 <vmeson> OnkelUlla: better late than never. Did you get it to work?
Jan 24 14:08:41 <OnkelUlla> vmeson: Yes, but I did it like before only additionally disabling the forwarding of messages to syslog from journald.
Jan 24 14:13:32 <vmeson> OnkelUlla: could you make that an optional behaviour of the system? DISTRO_FEATURE or PACKAGECONFIG for systemd/klogd/... and send patch to oe-core?
Jan 24 14:16:49 <OnkelUlla> vmeson: You mean "my old way" of simply disabling busybox' instances of syslogd & klogd?
Jan 24 14:19:13 <vmeson> OnkelUlla: ah, well that's a start I suppose, especially if you trigger it off DISTRO_FEATURE nosyslog 
Jan 24 14:27:10 <rburton> not a distrofeature!
Jan 24 14:27:13 <rburton> packageconfig sounds good
Jan 24 14:27:50 <vmeson> OnkelUlla and likely VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_syslog = "" -- anyway, please post somethinig the list so we work out how to ditch syslog.
Jan 24 14:31:29 <ejoerns> no new DISTRO_FEATURE of course, but wouldn't it work simply not enabling syslog/klogd if DISTRO_FEATURE systemd is enabled?
Jan 24 21:15:07 <Crofton|work> why doesn't a systemd based core-image bring up eth0, besides systemd sucking
Jan 24 21:16:46 <noc0lour> networkd config missing? 
Jan 24 21:21:41 <Crofton|work> I would have thought there was a sane default
Jan 24 21:31:25 <Crofton|work> yeah, made up a conf file and it works
Jan 24 21:40:26 <joshuagl> networkd uses a different naming convention, doesn't it?
Jan 24 21:44:50 <Crofton|work> I might be having user issues
Jan 24 21:44:55 <Crofton|work> now not booting :)
Jan 24 21:45:16 <Crofton|work> Have I mentioned I hate computers
Jan 24 21:49:44 <Crofton|work> I had to add a file to /etc/systemd/network to recognize eth0
Jan 24 21:59:11 <bluelightning> Crofton|work: if our systemd config isn't complete we should probably fix that
Jan 24 21:59:44 <bluelightning> I wonder how people would feel about moving to systemd by default in OE
Jan 24 22:00:05 <Crofton|work> yeah
Jan 24 22:00:09 <Crofton|work> it made me angry
Jan 24 22:00:20 <Crofton|work> I am not an expert though, so might be cockpit error
Jan 24 22:00:44 <Crofton|work> Some peopel would get angry and move to debian
Jan 24 22:02:26 <Crofton|work> OMG, these phone scammers
Jan 24 22:02:36 <Crofton|work> the call from the "IRS" made me cry
Jan 24 22:32:21 <rburton> yeah networkd doesn't do anything out of the box
Jan 24 22:40:10 <Crofton|work> annoying ...
Jan 24 22:42:10 <rburton> connman automatically brings up wired ethernet
Jan 24 22:42:36 <rburton> networkd is very limited
Jan 24 22:49:09 <Crofton|work> bitbake core-image-minimal should be able to rbing up a network connection
Jan 24 22:49:43 <Crofton|work> for sysvinit and systemd
Jan 24 22:49:48 <Crofton|work> this is what people expect
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 25 03:00:05 2018