**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 21 03:00:02 2018 Feb 21 12:32:43 rburton, JaMa: about oe-split, we should first clarify what is meta-openembedded and meta-oe Feb 21 12:33:09 I still find meta-oe bad named Feb 21 12:33:20 former is repo, latter is layer. i admit to using meta-oe for both... Feb 21 12:33:26 this is actually meta-extras Feb 21 12:33:29 didn't we actually have that discussion in prague (RP, armpit, JaMa) and conclude a "no"? Feb 21 12:33:48 ah, wasn't there, didn't know that :) Feb 21 12:34:04 well, I am sorry but I would rediscuss a couple of things Feb 21 12:34:08 IIRC the main argument was that more fragmentation won't help anybody Feb 21 12:34:30 (i mean, its not my decision at all, i just wondered) Feb 21 12:34:37 LetoThe2nd, have you seen today's ML messages? Feb 21 12:34:51 ant_work: partially. Feb 21 12:35:04 ok, it seems to me nothing is decided yet Feb 21 12:37:25 like i said, i'll accept anything as its not my decision. was just wondering because the topic was there already. Feb 21 12:38:28 the decisions about the future of meta.openembedded were delayed once oe-core was split-out Feb 21 12:38:39 now it is the time to care a bit more about it Feb 21 12:39:29 we all agree there is space for improvements ;) Feb 21 13:30:12 ant_work: LetoThe2nd: yes, it's not ideal name and there are improvements needed everywhere, but I don't see how splitting into multiple git repositories are helping with that (quite the opposite) Feb 21 13:33:09 right, what I mean is having more layers under the same git repo Feb 21 13:33:14 and rename meta-oe Feb 21 13:35:00 imho meta-openembbedded repo could be renamed 'openembedded-extras' to be coherent with 'openembedded-core' Feb 21 13:35:19 and below this umbrella the various layers Feb 21 13:36:27 JaMa, me as well I can't see the problem of fetching a single repo and using only some layers Feb 21 13:37:15 yes, openembedded-extras would be better name for the repository Feb 21 13:38:59 JaMa: ++ Feb 21 13:39:24 then we still have the meta-oe ensemble of recipes...we can rename it as we want but the fact is it contains some dependencies for other layers Feb 21 13:43:12 heh.. meta-unsorted Feb 21 13:43:47 I fail to see how to split it totally out Feb 21 13:59:41 is there OEDAM meeting starting in 1 minute or did I mess the timezone again? Feb 21 14:00:58 JaMa: if you did, i did too Feb 21 14:00:59 JaMa: I'm assuming it's now Feb 21 14:01:18 yes Feb 21 14:01:22 * paulbarker looks for how to join Feb 21 14:01:32 got it https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/2018_02_General_Meeting Feb 21 14:12:49 All, I've updated the permission so that everyone can contribute to the meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CcYx4llC0MXOm3QYjiB7L59pMIt0gYZgHpx-B8Yshqc/edit?usp=sharing Feb 21 15:32:23 * armpit back to kernel merging Feb 21 18:55:56 * armpit starts to map out brewers in portland Feb 21 19:54:39 armpit: oh god you'll kill yourself Feb 21 19:59:27 * moto-timo suggests armpit buys a second liver now Feb 21 20:05:54 rburton, not a problem. I will use Uber and after the three brewer, I will no long be able to operate a smart phone Feb 21 20:06:58 I'll end up behind the Yocto booth in my underwear Feb 21 20:07:19 ahhahaha Feb 21 20:07:28 OE branded i hope Feb 21 20:07:46 armpit: that's ok, with the free shirts, just stay behind the booth and nobody will notice :D Feb 21 20:07:53 Like Mike Tyson in hangover 2 Feb 21 20:22:44 * armpit sigh... Feb 21 20:22:45 mdp would approve this #nopants moment, I'm sure Feb 21 20:23:53 btw, on a completely different topic, I am currently thinking about how to integrate the recipe reporting system (http://recipes.yoctoproject.org) with the layer index Feb 21 20:24:41 I'm thinking that we'd have the ability to set up "maintenance schedules" that include one or more layers and then you'd get the functionality that the RRS provides Feb 21 20:27:07 I hope this will pave the way to making the functionality available to more layer maintainers should they want it Feb 21 20:29:18 bluelightning, I want an app for that Feb 21 20:30:09 * armpit iPhone AB app Feb 21 20:30:15 if you mean on your phone, I've not written any phone apps for a long time... however, the website should work from your phone :D Feb 21 20:30:21 also, patches welcome ;) Feb 21 20:31:11 come to think of it, when I last wrote a phone app, the iPhone and Android weren't even around Feb 21 20:33:02 haha, I remember rotary phones ; ) Feb 21 20:33:15 windows mobile ;) Feb 21 20:34:07 (I'm not counting Opie, that never really was a phone OS) Feb 21 20:34:17 or rather, a phone UI Feb 21 21:24:34 * armpit http://www.portlandbeer.org/breweries/map Feb 21 21:28:31 tbr: please remember that UK and America use the word 'pants' to mean different things. I now have mental imagery I don't need Feb 21 21:53:35 * stephano http://willamettewines.com/about-the-valley/regional-map/ Feb 21 21:53:41 for those with more free time Feb 21 21:57:27 * armpit real engineer drink beer .. hehe hehe ; ) Feb 21 22:42:04 bluelightning: what was the mobile java thing called? BREW? Feb 21 22:42:11 armpit: I'll join you haha **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 22 03:00:04 2018