**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 21 03:00:01 2018 Oct 21 07:54:15 LET THE TROLLING BEGIN Oct 21 07:59:05 we've started a Google Meet conference for those attending remontely the OEDEM link is: https://meet.google.com/vtb-hnnd-ixe. Disclaimer: we don't have a good audio setup in the room. YMMV. Oct 21 08:00:45 s/YMMV/\m// Oct 21 08:16:22 is there an official trolling channel? Oct 21 08:16:37 fray: more official than this vey one. Oct 21 08:16:38 ? Oct 21 08:16:45 :) Oct 21 10:13:20 before the break RP was talking about meta-lib(?) anyone know what that is? Oct 21 11:11:24 ndec: I am trying to join the Google meet. Is it still running? Oct 21 11:11:45 we are about to go for lunch in ~20 mins Oct 21 11:12:04 darknighte: noone has joined so far.. so i don't know how well (or not) it works Oct 21 11:12:59 Hmmm, won't let me join. Keeps timing out. Oct 21 11:14:14 darknighte: i am not getting your request to join.. Oct 21 11:15:35 darknighte: can you hear anything? Oct 21 11:15:38 there we go. 3rd time was the charm. Oct 21 11:15:53 Yes, I can hear what sounds like Behan talking. Oct 21 11:17:03 ndec: ^ Oct 21 11:17:20 yes, that was him.. Oct 21 11:20:07 funny, I know these guys well enough to recognize the voices. Oct 21 11:20:21 heh Oct 21 11:20:43 * darknighte waves to fray denix armpit Crofton RP Oct 21 11:21:54 On a US meeting, I think it would be valuable. Oct 21 11:21:59 darknighte: Y U NO edinburgh? ;-) Oct 21 11:22:06 Hi koen Oct 21 11:22:40 LetoThe2nd: nope. My current employer wasn't willing to fund my travel. Oct 21 11:23:00 darknighte: aw :-( Oct 21 11:23:12 LetoThe2nd: :( Oct 21 11:23:33 koen is barely allowed at OEDEM/OEDAM. Oct 21 11:27:19 Crofton: I don't see the problem with having a "hacking" meeting. We've been saying for years that it would be valuable to have a more project work focused meeting. Oct 21 11:31:37 darknighte: we will break out for lunch! Oct 21 11:32:08 ndec: I heard. Would you ping me when you return? Oct 21 12:12:25 where is the link to google meet? I'm only reading the meeting minutes Oct 21 12:37:52 darknighte: JaMa : https://meet.google.com/vtb-hnnd-ixe. we are back. Oct 21 12:38:04 talking about bug triage right now Oct 21 13:45:36 JaMa: can you make out what the far speaker is saying? Oct 21 13:50:38 I hear timo! Oct 21 13:51:34 tlwoerner: thanks for relaying my question Oct 21 13:51:41 darknighte: :-) Oct 21 13:51:49 i missed your last one, you removed it Oct 21 13:51:50 ? Oct 21 13:51:55 not all, but most people I get Oct 21 13:52:25 for the rest, reading the minutes in parallel help Oct 21 13:52:46 JaMa: +1 Oct 21 13:53:27 tlwoerner: the convo had moved on. I was asking about separated debug symbols support. Oct 21 13:53:53 I seem to recall that we already support that, but was wanting to double check. I can look on my own though. Oct 21 13:53:59 darknighte: ok Oct 21 14:08:13 JaMa, any comments on my pull request for meta-qt5 Oct 21 14:10:13 koen: https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Layers_FAQ Oct 21 14:10:41 tlwoerner: is there a need for an engineering/arch bodt? Oct 21 14:11:51 darknighte: okay, i'll ask Oct 21 14:12:01 tlwoerner: thx Oct 21 14:15:11 denix: :P Oct 21 14:15:31 darknighte: the thing you highlighted, are you satisfied that it was answered? Oct 21 14:15:42 @Crofton|work: not yet Oct 21 14:16:12 tlwoerner: not really. Oct 21 14:16:35 it's a topic fraught with peril. lots of personal/historical baggage, imho. Oct 21 14:16:59 darknighte: go back to sleep! :) Oct 21 14:17:46 I thought that koen's suggestion about an OE-centric maintainer role definition for both recipe and layers would be helpful Oct 21 14:19:25 coffee break Oct 21 14:44:49 tlwoerner: I can barely hear the speaker Oct 21 14:45:41 darknighte, He is pretty quiet in person. Oct 21 14:46:08 he's in the other corner of the room Oct 21 14:46:08 halstead: who is speaking? Oct 21 14:46:19 Rich Persaud Oct 21 14:46:21 i don't know Oct 21 14:46:22 would someone capture the highlights into the meeting minutes? Oct 21 14:47:14 darknighte: yes, there are minutes Oct 21 14:47:24 darknighte: check wiki for the link Oct 21 14:48:04 denix: I'm reading along with them live. Just didn't see what the last/quiet speaker was saying Oct 21 14:48:55 neat! he went to school in toronto Oct 21 14:50:29 tlwoerner: +1 Oct 21 14:52:44 the OE of blockchain! Oct 21 14:53:10 darknighte: i wasn't joking Oct 21 15:02:10 the blockchain of layers Oct 21 15:09:11 meta-blockchain Oct 21 15:16:12 tlwoerner: +1 Oct 21 15:16:35 One of my first public talks was at Collab Summit and I covered that topic. (NIH) Oct 21 15:16:48 Not invented here. Oct 21 15:23:59 don't underestimate the engineers who are under the gun, have no linux knowledge, and are told by their management to build a product on a arch that 'has a linux from the vendor'. Oct 21 15:30:16 koen: noooooo! Oct 21 15:33:29 RP, updated and enabled: http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/stats/?period=y&ofs=-1 Oct 21 15:33:39 fray: honestly, that is probably the most compelling argument for businesses to adopt OE/layering Oct 21 15:45:26 halstead: thanks Oct 21 15:46:49 in stats since the beginning I took 1st and 10th place :) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YWFmJwHTcN/ Oct 21 15:48:58 lol Oct 21 16:05:45 darknighte: JaMa : i am going to disconnect the audio.. i hope you could get a bit of what happened here.. Oct 21 16:05:52 ndec: thx! Oct 21 16:06:04 np. Oct 21 16:06:08 ndec: tlwoerner: would you ask behan to contact me on hangouts? Oct 21 16:07:27 ndec: yes, thanks Oct 21 16:07:52 darknighte: done! Oct 21 16:08:48 ndec: thanks for that as well. fwiw, the audio worked well for listening, but the few times I tried to speak, nobody seemed to hear/respond. Oct 21 20:25:09 khem, hi, world log is almost clear now Oct 21 20:25:31 I'll try to fix these few issues Oct 21 20:26:04 (but not qt* qtm) Oct 21 21:55:48 ant_home: yes, thanks for looking at it Oct 21 21:56:00 ant_home: so far I have trying to make everything build Oct 21 21:56:19 next step will be to enable runtime testing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 22 03:00:00 2018