**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 05 03:00:01 2018 Dec 05 08:48:47 good morning Dec 05 10:26:32 morning Dec 05 10:44:13 hi all Dec 05 10:44:19 kergoth: fwiw, just pushed to my bb fork a fixed bb-log and a new bb-var tool Dec 05 10:44:32 kergoth: realised i really missed bb-log so went to fix it Dec 05 10:44:53 *really* need something like bb in oe-core itself to absorb all the small utilities Dec 05 11:00:45 we seem to be consistently running into https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12070 with Yocto 2.5.1, eventhough we added the suggested workaround to our configs Dec 05 11:01:12 the WONTFIX resolution does not spread too much optimism :) Dec 05 11:01:36 is the workaround really working for everyone else that this is not an issue? our builds seem to be failing daily because of it Dec 05 12:21:54 https://careers.peopleclick.com/careerscp/client_arm/external/en_US/gateway.do?functionName=viewFromLink&localeCode=en-us&jobPostId=39656 Dec 05 12:21:59 it is about time :) Dec 05 12:25:00 :) Dec 05 13:22:09 Crofton: We not I Dec 05 13:23:07 Be quirky not egocentric. Dec 05 13:25:26 be metal, not country. Dec 05 15:45:34 rburton: oh thank god, i'd been meaning to do that too and hadn't gotten around to it Dec 05 15:46:30 and agreed, maybe we should add a new 'oe' tool in oe-core for that Dec 05 15:49:06 yeah Dec 05 19:21:42 hmm, wonder if anyone has tried doing a build on a freebsd host. i'm guessing you'd need coreutils and the like at the head of the PATH Dec 05 19:28:32 kergoth: long time ago I tried Dec 05 19:28:52 you need a lot of g* packages Dec 05 19:28:59 i decided to try trueos on my old macbook air, first time i've touched a bsd since 1999 :) Dec 05 19:29:00 * kergoth nods Dec 05 19:29:05 eg. gmake, gsed, gawk ... Dec 05 19:29:19 kergoth: trueos is amazing though Dec 05 19:29:40 i'm quite liking it so far, other than the expected quirks to deal with the hardware particulars. Dec 05 19:29:47 rc.conf, etc is very reminiscent of arch Dec 05 19:29:49 pre-systemd, that is Dec 05 19:29:54 oh and now a days freebsd uses clang as base compiler so things might be even more lets say interesting for GNU userspace Dec 05 19:41:35 huh, the way some of the stuff is done with devd is interesting. semi-dynamic creation of new initscripts for each device Dec 05 19:41:57 writing new stuff into /etc/init.d on the fly seems weird coming from linux Dec 05 19:44:01 think i'll set up i3 again the way i do on wsl and arch :) Dec 05 20:11:00 khem: hmm, i bet you could use nix to build all the gnu tools in a self contained area rather than cluttering up the host Dec 05 20:17:03 kergoth: yeah, I think there are few linux distros e.g. mageia which must have helped in cleaning up the general linux userspace for clang builds Dec 05 21:25:46 kergoth: have you played with rust ? Dec 05 21:26:07 kergoth: I think its quite interesting language for system programming. Dec 05 21:27:56 I dont know if I will see linux kernel replaced as defacto kernel in my lifetime, but whenever it happens the new kernel will be written in rust I am sure Dec 05 21:43:51 not much, it does seem really interesting. rust and elixir are both on my to-learn-in-the-near-future list Dec 05 21:45:43 kergoth: I think data races are so hard to detect and easy to code **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 06 03:00:01 2018