**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 15 02:59:57 2019 May 15 16:49:23 vmeson: thanks for the link, I'll take a look. Do you work for Wind River, as in Wind River Systems? May 15 16:53:22 vmeson: looks like that did the trick, I had to use pip3 apparently instead of pip May 15 16:56:31 anyone have an answer for the eternal question: Buildbot or Jenkins? May 15 17:01:21 vmeson: have you ever seen a Matrox VG-1281 VME card? May 15 17:45:40 dStruct: yes I work for WRS. Glad I could help. Matrox VG-1281 VME card? I don't think so. My first VME cards were 68K running an old version of VxWorks circa 1995 May 15 18:19:49 dStruct: why do you mention the Matrox VG-1281 VME card? May 15 18:41:23 hi, how can I prevent a variable defined by a bbclass from being recalculated for every single package :( .... I have it flagged as vardepsexclude:"DATETIME", what else should I use so it's only calculated once per bitbake invocation? May 15 18:44:29 sonds like you are on an older version. current version of OE define this once.. May 15 18:45:12 I'm using the one that comes with "sumo" May 15 18:45:23 yes, that is pretty cold May 15 18:45:24 'er.. old May 15 18:45:38 :D May 15 18:45:59 for another project I'm still using one from before oe-core :p May 15 18:46:02 last falls release was thud, spring was warrior.. you really should try to be on one of those.. if you have a commercial product ask your vendor they should be able ot help you May 15 18:46:30 you might be aable to find the commit that changed the definition and backport it as well May 15 18:46:50 on bitbake's git? May 15 18:47:18 I'll try to push for an update to thud May 15 18:48:17 may also be that the usage fo the datetime ahs changed to be deterministic May 15 18:48:31 i'm not seeing any code changes to datetime itself that is at all recent May 15 19:55:21 vmeson: I have 3 of them in production, since you mentioned WR I didn't know if you'd worked with them at all. I have 3 full VME chassis in operation May 15 20:00:16 dStruct: I see. Unless it runs WR Linux, it's not on my radar these days. May 15 20:02:00 mnemoc, oe-classic? May 15 20:06:29 Crofton: old fork of a fork of arago based on bitbake 1.8.18 ;-) May 15 20:06:47 so i feel at the edge with sumo these days ;-) May 15 20:13:05 ouch May 15 20:13:18 * Crofton blames denix for that May 15 20:14:10 i prefer to blame TI :( May 15 21:48:26 vmeson: it doesn't run WR linux, it runs System V R3 :D May 15 21:48:53 dStruct: wow! May 15 21:52:07 vmeson: I run even older stuff then that, I have a system running MPX-32 which predates BSD UNIX May 15 22:17:22 man when the docs said building could take a while they weren't kidding, at this rate I might as well come back tomorrow and it *might* be done May 16 01:17:36 dStruct: 32+ core, 32 GB RAM, TB SSD servers are your best bet. The first build is the hardest (baby I know) but when it comes to building the next image caching (downloads, sstate) helps significantly (with aploogies to Cat Stevens :) ) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 16 03:00:30 2019