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Dec 16 07:55:04 <mckoan> good morning
Dec 16 13:01:52 <Crofton|road> Good morning!
Dec 16 13:04:01 <tgamblin> Hello
Dec 16 13:05:02 <LetoThe2nd> Crofton|road: only partially agreed.
Dec 16 15:04:27 <opello> hi, i'm backporting some bitbake recipes from thud-recent to daisy, and seem to have to add a `var = d.expand(var)` to some python native helpers; does that make sense?  is there a better way to make the recipe more inter-version compatible?
Dec 16 15:12:37 <rburton> daisy?!
Dec 16 15:12:55 <opello> heh :(
Dec 16 15:12:59 <rburton> that makes sense because older bitbake was crazy and did variable expansion to python code too
Dec 16 15:13:09 <rburton> so print("${FOO}") would expand FOO at parse time
Dec 16 15:14:17 <rburton> modern bitbake, by which i mean ~4 years old, doesn't do that
Dec 16 15:19:33 <rburton> bitbake 8bf33a8e92c0e188fa392030025756196c96fcbb, february 2016
Dec 16 15:24:16 <opello> aha, i'd seen this from a colleague in other code, but d.getVar('...', True) is a pattern elsewhere, that also worked
Dec 16 15:25:05 <opello> thank you so much for that context!
Dec 16 15:25:41 <rburton> but DAISY
Dec 16 15:25:45 <rburton> please upgrade
Dec 16 15:29:43 <opello> trying :(  it seems there's a small issue with our arm TUNE_ARCH/TUNE_PKGARCH changing in more modern things, so RPMs won't be install compatible?  plan would be to 'never allow downgrade' but am not quite sure how to manage that yet
Dec 16 15:30:04 <opello> https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?h=6661718158f8fdcdf63b0d48e8fe72d3ac4778f2
Dec 16 16:23:26 * armpit Dave.. what are you doing??? Daisy... Daiiiisy
Dec 16 16:27:03 * armpit no one gets that reference 2001 space odyssey
Dec 16 16:27:45 <opello> it was appreciated, but the shame of using a really old release is real :)
Dec 16 16:28:12 <LetoThe2nd> armpit: didn't reference metal. hence i couldn't get it.
Dec 16 16:29:00 <armpit> LetoThe2nd, space is all about Metal
Dec 16 16:31:13 <LetoThe2nd> armpit: nope
Dec 16 16:31:27 <LetoThe2nd> armpit: proof: space oddity is *NOT* metal.
Dec 16 16:34:41 <khem> 95+ % space is dark matter+enery 
Dec 16 16:34:50 <khem> energy
Dec 16 16:35:05 <khem> ah someone else is using daisy too 
Dec 16 16:35:15 <khem> brothers in arms
Dec 16 16:44:35 <opello> khem: :D
Dec 16 16:45:06 <khem> I can share a bit of shame with you maybe about 95%
Dec 16 16:45:31 <opello> working on backporting docker, fighting go pieces at the moment :/
Dec 16 16:48:35 <tgamblin> armpit: I believe it was the philosopher Gillan himself who said "Come on let's go Space Truckin'"
Dec 16 16:50:20 <khem> opello: lxc works nicely though 
Dec 16 16:52:56 <opello> khem: yeah :( i agree
Dec 16 20:19:25 <LetoThe2nd> did bitbake -g change to only output taskdeps now, instead of also packageedeps?
Dec 16 20:28:05 <JPEW> LetoThe2nd: Yes, it appears so
Dec 16 20:33:03 <JPEW> LetoThe2nd: Someone else was asking about that about a week ago, I think
Dec 16 20:38:51 <LetoThe2nd> JPEW: sad
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