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Sep 08 07:42:45 <wagi> I'm still trying to get my shine new f3706gw (Mini PCIe card) running. Do I need to attache the antenna? I used to work with 802.11 hardware, where an attana isn't really needed for local testing. But I can imagine that an atenna is required with those 3g cards. Any ideas?
Sep 08 08:18:53 <wagi> found a pigtail and an atenna. now there is a new problem. the modem disapears and I see in the kernel logs: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1a.7: dma_pool_free buffer-2048, ffff880037826200/37826200 (bad dma)
Sep 08 12:37:30 <wagi> the problem I see might be related to modemswitch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch-data/+bug/451787
Sep 08 12:37:44 <wagi> at least it looks like something is removing the modem
Sep 08 12:37:59 <wagi> are there any known issues with udev and mbm modems?
Sep 08 12:41:57 <wagi> the good knew is that I see that the NetworkRegistration status changes from 'unknown' to 'searching' but then there happends this dma_pool_free thing
Sep 08 15:43:23 <wagi> interesting. after removing the external atenna and just having the pigtail added to the card, it now works. of course only with a vodafon sim but it works
Sep 08 15:44:08 <wagi> at least I see a  NetworkRegristration status=registered
Sep 08 15:44:30 <wagi> activate-context still fails
Sep 08 15:46:13 <wagi> I guess the firmware crashed due to too good signal :)
Sep 08 18:35:26 <holtmann> denkenz: We forgot to fix the API for ModemAdded, ModemRemoved and GetModems?
Sep 08 18:35:32 <holtmann> This is still racy.
Sep 08 19:27:59 <denkenz> holtmann: We did
Sep 08 19:30:18 <holtmann> We didn't.
Sep 08 19:30:47 <holtmann> How did we forget about this one?
Sep 08 19:31:57 <holtmann> denkenz: We should be doing GetModems() and have signals for ModemAdded and ModemRemoved.
Sep 08 19:32:21 <denkenz> I meant we did forget
Sep 08 19:32:30 <holtmann> Okay.
Sep 08 19:32:45 <holtmann> So do you have time to fix this quickly. I don't wanna break more APIs later.
Sep 08 19:33:01 <denkenz> quickly as in by when?
Sep 08 19:33:14 <holtmann> Ten minutes ago when I discovered it.
Sep 08 19:33:37 <holtmann> I am pretty sure we talked about it, but must have slipped our mind when writing it down.
Sep 08 19:33:55 <denkenz> I don't recall actually discussing modem interface at all
Sep 08 19:34:15 <holtmann> I am getting old then :(
Sep 08 19:34:20 <denkenz> So I think we simply forgot ;)
Sep 08 19:34:26 <holtmann> Possible as well.
Sep 08 19:34:51 <holtmann> Can you have a quick look and check how long it would take. I update the API docs in the meantime.
Sep 08 19:35:47 <denkenz> It won't take long, the problem is I'm in the middle of refactoring sim cache code 
Sep 08 19:36:01 <holtmann> Oops.
Sep 08 19:36:10 <denkenz> When do you want this?
Sep 08 19:36:44 <holtmann> I want it quickly. Samuel is pushing Pekka's patches for the API change. And I am looking through the online support patches.
Sep 08 19:36:56 <holtmann> By tomorrow I want this back in sync.
Sep 08 19:37:29 <denkenz> don't we need 0.28 then?
Sep 08 19:37:38 <holtmann> Yes.
Sep 08 19:37:43 <holtmann> As quickly as possible.
Sep 08 19:38:10 <denkenz> See I wanted sim cache in 0.28 since it potentially breaks serialization
Sep 08 19:38:24 <denkenz> give me until end of day tomorrow
Sep 08 19:38:28 <denkenz> Maybe sooner
Sep 08 19:38:32 <holtmann> Sure.
Sep 08 19:38:59 <holtmann> I push the doc change now since I am finishing them.
Sep 08 19:39:27 <denkenz> nod
Sep 08 19:43:54 <holtmann> denkenz: Done.
Sep 08 21:36:19 <sabotage> denkenz: I happened to pull tip and see lots of API change showing up in 0.27+
Sep 08 21:36:44 <sabotage> Am I correct in my understanding that 1.1 will still be 0.26 though?
Sep 08 21:37:24 <sabotage> IOW, I don't need to plan for major API breakage before code freeze by end of sept, right ?!?!
Sep 08 21:37:25 <denkenz> yep
Sep 08 21:37:35 * sabotage sighs in relief
Sep 08 21:37:58 <denkenz> even connman is broken by .27
Sep 08 21:38:14 <denkenz> planned rough patch as holtmann puts it
Sep 08 21:38:21 <sabotage> BTW, I can't manage to keep up on all the ML's, so I only seem to hear about these when I pull from git, which is not regular
Sep 08 21:38:53 <sabotage> I'm not intentionally ignoring ya'll in other words
Sep 08 21:39:19 <denkenz> no prob
Sep 08 21:43:13 <sabotage> hmm, my attempts at searching ML seem to fail at finding any email announcements or RFC's on the VoiceCallManager API changes... 
Sep 08 21:43:26 <sabotage> have a msgid handy or was there no email?
Sep 08 21:47:27 <denkenz> sabotage: Actually we never discussed it on the ML
Sep 08 21:47:52 <denkenz> I actually wanted to write an announce email about it, but forgot
Sep 08 21:48:06 <denkenz> In the future we will try to list any major pitfalls whenever releasing a new version
Sep 08 21:48:17 <sabotage> nod
Sep 08 21:49:01 <sabotage> so other than git diff, is there any summary of the API changes between 0.26 and 0.27 and those planned for 0.28?
Sep 08 21:53:25 <denkenz> See ChangeLog
Sep 08 21:54:11 <denkenz> sabotage: We're not quite good with planned changes, sort of depends on what lands in git
Sep 08 21:55:04 * sabotage noticed ;)
Sep 08 21:55:58 <sabotage> denkenz: backport plans for 1.1 (ofono 0.26)?
Sep 08 21:56:36 <denkenz> We have no stable tree and no branches
Sep 08 21:56:38 <sabotage> IOW, since 1.1 is in feature freeze, whats the plan/process for fixes in 0.27+ getting into meego 1.1
Sep 08 21:56:47 <sabotage> heh
Sep 08 21:56:56 <denkenz> So for now we rely on QA to apply any critical fixes
Sep 08 21:57:15 * sabotage not asking... but channeling someone nearby :P
Sep 08 21:57:38 <denkenz> We get that a lot, but until EoY you won't see a stable tree
Sep 08 21:57:51 <denkenz> Simply too many things to do
Sep 08 21:58:17 <sabotage> nod
Sep 08 23:40:13 <holtmann> denkenz: Most of the online mode patches are now upstream. Some of them need more work and testing.
Sep 08 23:43:43 <holtmann> pessi: I hope you have Huawei and MBM hardware to fix the issues with these.
Sep 09 02:25:58 <zhenhua> holtmann: any comments for btio.[ch] patches?
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