**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 24 23:59:56 2005 Feb 25 08:39:34 * ka6sox-away mumble Feb 25 08:47:57 <[g2]> ka6sox-away, morning Feb 25 09:04:20 morning. Feb 25 09:04:42 I really should have coffee before I attempt to read the logs **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 25 10:47:44 2005 Feb 25 12:35:45 <[g2]> kas11, have any luck with the build last night ? Feb 25 12:55:03 <[g2]> This looks sweet only $16K http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3581518637.html Feb 25 13:03:51 hehe Feb 25 13:15:09 [g2] it built...but I haven't looked much further Feb 25 13:15:30 <[g2]> kas11, kergoth updated oe-devel with the fixes Feb 25 13:15:49 <[g2]> I'm bulding from nslu2-linux now, then I'll pull again and rebuild Feb 25 13:16:13 <[g2]> after it's all fixed I'll let you know and you should be good to go on the flashing running Feb 25 13:17:00 I changed back so I wasn't using the symlinks...restarted and it never complained about anything else...said it attempted 40 builds Feb 25 13:23:31 ka6sox ping Feb 25 13:29:23 is there any interest in updating things?...for instance, the buzzer is no longer a busy loop in later revisions and I could actually make the buttons do something sensible Feb 25 13:29:55 <[g2]> kas11, there is lots of interest Feb 25 13:30:25 <[g2]> If you wanted to give the io code a once over that'd be fantastic Feb 25 13:30:38 k...will see what I can do ;) Feb 25 13:30:57 <[g2]> I've just got one tiny change set for defaulting the Ready/Status to red after init Feb 25 13:31:23 <[g2]> and then some user space code to turn it green at the end of the sys init scripts Feb 25 13:31:46 <[g2]> And I need to figure out how to hook the hotplug event for the disk LEDs Feb 25 13:32:06 <[g2]> a *really* cool thing is that hotplug-ng is in there and running Feb 25 13:33:33 also, there is alarm support in the clock driver and a way of adjusting the digital padder...otherwise I think it is pretty much as it was altho with someone to test it, I will wrestle x1205-rtc.c into shape so it can be submitted upstream...I'll just tape off the right half of my monitor so I can limit myself to 90 chars *lol* Feb 25 13:34:03 <[g2]> LOL Feb 25 13:34:36 [g2], got minute? Feb 25 13:34:56 <[g2]> dyoung-zzzz, for you sure Feb 25 13:35:16 I can write a little replacement for set_leds, I reckon Feb 25 13:36:13 <[g2]> kas11, I've pulled to sample code that Voodooz posted and it runs fine Feb 25 13:36:18 if I have a do_install() in my foo.bb file; does that override totally the do_install, or does it do those tasks in addition? And if its the former how am I supposed to have it do both? Feb 25 13:36:40 <[g2]> I'm not planning on using the buzzer or alarms right now, just LEDs Feb 25 13:37:08 <[g2]> our only issue is udev setup for the c 126 0 device which is a udev issue Feb 25 13:37:36 <[g2]> dyoung-zzzz, I think that's an override Feb 25 13:38:10 I dont want to have to completely rewrite the install stuff, because it already does the right thing. I just need it to install one additional thing Feb 25 13:38:18 <[g2]> dyoung-zzzz, I don't know of there's do_install_prepend and do_install_postpend which would be obvious what they are Feb 25 13:38:36 <[g2]> which would probably be the _postpend Feb 25 13:38:42 nod Feb 25 13:38:50 <[g2]> I'd double check with kergoth on that Feb 25 13:39:01 <[g2]> in OE, I can ask him right now Feb 25 13:39:07 Yes Please Feb 25 13:39:15 I'm p[oking around some other bbs now Feb 25 13:40:24 do_install_append looks promising Feb 25 13:40:48 I had some wild idea that I could wake the slug up with the alarm...but I never got around to seeing just how dead it was in powerdown. Feb 25 13:42:07 <[g2]> or just do something like: Feb 25 13:42:07 <[g2]> do_install () { Feb 25 13:42:07 <[g2]> <[g2]> excellent. Cool Feb 25 13:42:07 <[g2]> # before stuff Feb 25 13:42:07 <[g2]> autotools_do_install Feb 25 13:42:08 <[g2]> # after stuff Feb 25 13:42:10 <[g2]> } Feb 25 13:42:19 <[g2]> append and prepend are also in there Feb 25 13:42:55 haven't looked on the wiki to see if Tiersten or someone had looked into powerdown Feb 25 13:43:13 Guess I should RTFM Again. Feb 25 13:43:51 kas11, I du nno but someone posted up a nice cheap way to turn it on on powerplugin using a MSP129 Supervisor. Feb 25 13:43:58 1 part. Feb 25 13:44:02 3 wire Feb 25 13:44:23 Tiersten was gonna wedge a PIC of some kind in there. Feb 25 13:44:29 [g2] thanks! Feb 25 13:48:09 ic...I was thinking about kicking the watchdog or something...if the cpu is sleeping and not entirely dead Feb 25 13:48:30 <[g2]> ka6sox-away, did you see the watchdog wiki write-up ? Feb 25 14:08:05 hey kas11! Feb 25 14:10:49 rwhitby hey ;) Feb 25 14:11:10 how's things? good to see you here :-) Feb 25 14:11:34 we need your experience in OpenSlug .... Feb 25 14:12:10 doing good...can't complain...even wheno, no one pays any attention :) Feb 25 14:12:36 s/wheno/when I do. Feb 25 14:13:04 this keyboard has had 1 too many cups of coffee.... Feb 25 14:17:55 [g2] did some handholding last night so I managed to get OE and friends up and running ... looking thru my cruft now and wondering what I was thinking ;) Feb 25 14:19:19 kas11: without your stuff we'd be dead in the water Feb 25 15:08:57 pin 3 on the x1205 could be used to kick power on as frequently as once per sec up to once a year or be used as a power on at a set time Feb 25 15:19:52 <[g2]> kas11, that wasn't handholding -- you were just trying to make me feel useful about something :) Feb 25 15:22:13 I dunno...I was gettin' nowhere on my own ;) Feb 25 15:23:05 <[g2]> see I feel better already :) Feb 25 15:26:01 if someone hacks their slug so that x1205 pin 3 is connected to the 'hc74 pin 4, I will gin up a driver to see if Vcc stays up long enough to keep the slug alive and/or turn on at the appointed time Feb 25 15:27:17 <[g2]> that's a one wire change ? Feb 25 15:27:38 <[g2]> that might be within my soldering skills if I exert myself Feb 25 15:28:09 just connect the pins with some 30 ga Feb 25 15:28:37 pullup is already there according to the wiki schematic Feb 25 15:28:54 <[g2]> hmmm... The possibilities Feb 25 15:29:59 <[g2]> So basically you'd push the button once and then the x1205 wouldn't let it go down (unless you pushed the power button again) Feb 25 15:30:13 keep alive will depend on whether the wall wart has enough capacity to keep a reasonable voltage for 1 sec worst case Feb 25 15:34:25 I was just thinking about the keep alive function...keep it up even if you have a short power outage for those people who have noisy power...and are using the keepalive circuit on the wiki...if you don't need that function, then the same thing will allow power on at whatever you set the alarm time at Feb 25 15:36:15 <[g2]> kas11, so you are saying set an alarm to trigger like 1 a second and as long as the device is plugged in it'll automatically boot ? :) Feb 25 15:36:44 that would allow you to power cycle the slug remotely too as long as it is running....preset the alarm to trigger once a minute or something Feb 25 15:37:14 <[g2]> that's on the todo list, add the power-down Feb 25 15:37:21 <[g2]> on the GPIO line Feb 25 15:37:47 the nIRQ on the x1205 will kick the power on when the alarm hits...we can already turn it off remotely Feb 25 15:39:17 the keep alive will preset the flip flop once a sec...as long as Vcc is above about 4 V, that should keep 3.3 turned on Feb 25 15:40:23 of course, a UPS is an easier solution to that prob...but it must be causing problems for someone Feb 25 15:41:02 <[g2]> hummm as usb enabled micro UPS :) Feb 25 15:42:52 a plain ol UPS will cure the noisy power prob....more interesting is the ability to power up/down remotely Feb 25 15:43:31 [g2], I gotta bail now, but if you have any suggestions as to how to make startup scripts work for this mt-daapd.bb I'm all ears. i looked at prtmap but it made my head spin a bit. I'll look in the log slater. Feb 25 15:44:22 <[g2]> dyoung, Ok we can look at that later Feb 25 15:47:27 [g2] in answer to your question before, yes, it will reboot if there is a power interruption that the keep alive cannot handle...it will try to turn the power on once every period that you program in...once Vcc is up, it will reboot if the system did go down Feb 25 15:48:34 <[g2]> kas11, thx. Feb 25 17:19:33 quiet in here... Feb 25 17:19:51 except I see that fantastic things have been happening :) Feb 25 18:03:32 To G. Feb 25 18:03:39 s/T/Y/ Feb 25 18:10:23 <[g2]> ka6sox-away, what kas11 is here ? Feb 25 18:10:27 <[g2]> and dyoung ? Feb 25 18:17:02 yep Feb 25 18:17:47 <[g2]> hey rwhitby-away not-away :) Feb 25 18:19:03 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, ping Feb 25 18:19:37 yes? Feb 25 18:20:18 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, there are 2 more things I'd like to add for the first Beta release Feb 25 18:20:44 what's that? (and why are we discussing it in openjtag?) Feb 25 18:30:26 :) Feb 25 18:31:01 [g2], ping? Feb 25 18:31:06 <[g2]> ping Feb 25 18:31:08 <[g2]> poing Feb 25 18:31:10 <[g2]> pong Feb 25 18:31:20 are you still looking for kas? Feb 25 18:31:40 <[g2]> nope we talked hours ago Feb 25 18:31:52 :) Feb 25 18:32:02 okay I haven't seen kas. Feb 25 18:32:16 oh wait.dyoung IS here! Feb 25 18:32:24 <[g2]> you said "except I see that fantastic things have been happening :)" Feb 25 18:32:43 then I'mm confused. Feb 25 18:32:53 <[g2]> I said what kas11 is here ? and dyoung ? Feb 25 18:32:54 [18:10] <[g2]> ka6sox-away, what kas11 is here ? Feb 25 18:33:06 nm....let you get back to Beta. Feb 25 18:34:49 dyoung-web: ping Feb 25 18:37:47 plunk Feb 25 18:38:22 he he Feb 25 18:38:41 as long as it not screech, crash! Feb 25 18:42:47 pong Feb 25 18:43:55 heya. Feb 25 18:44:13 so whats the 4-1-1 ? Feb 25 18:44:53 udev fixing Feb 25 18:44:56 bbiab Feb 25 21:43:07 rand: ping! Feb 25 22:53:05 pong! Feb 25 22:53:20 hi there. Feb 25 22:53:23 howdy Feb 25 22:53:30 did I see that you have a new Buick? Feb 25 22:54:04 yes, a new "used" 2005 Buick Century with 500 (almost 1000 now) miles Feb 25 22:54:16 sweet Feb 25 22:54:20 it has no options though, and it's not a honda VTEC ;) Feb 25 22:54:28 but it drives great on the freeway Feb 25 22:55:10 nice Feb 25 22:55:57 we drove a honda odyssey (a bit stick suspension but nice) and a also 2001 a honda accord v6.. very nice sporty feel. Feb 25 22:56:10 fun... Feb 25 22:56:18 when the buick century appeared with like 500 miles and a good offer, we took it Feb 25 22:56:28 good deal. Feb 25 22:56:30 it even has the new car smell Feb 25 22:56:40 mmmmm Feb 25 22:56:47 oh, and we got 6 year 90000 mile bumper to bumper with GM Feb 25 22:57:01 with no deductable Feb 25 22:57:19 very nice Feb 25 22:57:22 plus GPS tracking "mobile gaurdian" in case it's stolen Feb 25 22:57:24 going to pick up Justin. Feb 25 22:57:27 see ya Feb 25 22:58:05 <[g2]> who's rand ? Feb 25 22:58:48 a local friend of ka6sox Feb 25 22:58:56 <[g2]> cool Feb 25 22:58:58 actually live an hour away now Feb 25 22:59:16 fellow member of the sblug I presume? Feb 25 23:00:36 yeah, but since I live an hour away I havn't been to a meeting in a while Feb 25 23:00:48 but part of the group Feb 25 23:02:44 Cool. Feb 25 23:02:48 He told me I could join. Feb 25 23:03:00 but I live around 2700 miles away and would never make a meeting. Feb 25 23:12:38 it'd be a LOOOOOOOONG swim. Feb 25 23:13:52 lol Feb 25 23:27:02 * rand waves good night Feb 25 23:31:11 nite rand. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 25 23:59:57 2005