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Mar 31 12:44:37 <dyoung-zzzz> Hi beewoolie.
Mar 31 13:01:24 <beewoolie-away> dyoung-zzzz: hey man.
Mar 31 13:02:23 <dyoung-zzzz> hows it going?
Mar 31 13:03:31 <dyoung-zzzz> so if you had $1500 or so to buy a 'scope and multimeter, would you get a tek TDS2000 series or something similar or a fluke scopemeter ?
Mar 31 13:05:20 <beewoolie-away> I looked at those products some time ago.  My problem with the flukes is that they don't have much bandwidth.  Protable, but not ultimately not going to be much help.  Also, I want at least 4 channels.
Mar 31 13:06:41 <dyoung-zzzz> Yeah, my main problem was with the 20 or 40Mhz limitation
Mar 31 13:07:31 <dyoung-zzzz> I was leaning toward the Tek.
Mar 31 13:07:55 <dyoung-zzzz> My stupid 2246 is gone all flaky so I'm gonna just get a legitimate scope for the office.
Mar 31 13:10:52 <beewoolie-away> Tek's little storage oscilloscope is pretty nice.  I used one for a while.  too much for my budget, but it was small, light, and fast.
Mar 31 13:11:17 <beewoolie-away> I think my favorites were the agillent's.  Again, too pricey, but they have the features I wanted.
Mar 31 13:11:44 <dyoung-zzzz> I'm browsing the current DRMO BP closing auction today.  Some of these people are INSANE.
Mar 31 13:12:01 <dyoung-zzzz> c'mon guys, $2550 for a bus up hobart dough mixer?!
Mar 31 13:12:10 <dyoung-zzzz> Those  used to go for $150.
Mar 31 13:13:23 <dyoung-zzzz> Hmm, maybe I ought to look into agilent productt line too
Mar 31 13:14:03 <[g2]> did you guys see xilinx is releasing 7.1 with free Linux support ?
Mar 31 13:14:54 <dyoung-zzzz> yes, and they already have SP1 for it.
Mar 31 13:15:40 <[g2]> cool are you playing with it ?
Mar 31 13:16:19 <dyoung-zzzz> I downloaded it but never did anything with it yet.  Got all distracted with some other stuff.
Mar 31 13:16:43 <[g2]> I know how easy that can happen :)
Mar 31 13:17:24 <dyoung-zzzz> the bummer part is the MXE is windows only.
Mar 31 13:18:07 <dyoung-zzzz> But i suppose if theres a linux tool to do something with an IBIS model, you might be ble to get similar results.
Mar 31 13:19:17 <beewoolie-away> I saw that xlinx release.  Honestly, I'm not sure I know what it means.  It's a hardware design tool or something.
Mar 31 13:20:46 <dyoung-zzzz> its the doodad you need to compile Verilog or VHDL for putting into a Xilinx CPLD or FPGA.
Mar 31 13:29:50 <beewoolie-away> [g2]: you feeling better, then?
Mar 31 13:30:23 <[g2]> I'm feeling much better thanks
Mar 31 13:30:44 <dyoung-zzzz> [g2] are you fatslug enabled yet?
Mar 31 13:30:59 <[g2]> I really understand now why so many ppl die from the flu each year now
Mar 31 13:31:29 <[g2]> you know I've been meaning to ping ka6sox about the fatslug
Mar 31 13:32:43 <[g2]> I've got the Fat Avila slug
Mar 31 13:32:57 <dyoung-zzzz> oh yeah; that sright.
Mar 31 13:32:58 <beewoolie-away> [g2]: what do you mean?  Were you on death's door?
Mar 31 13:33:08 <dyoung-zzzz> so did you play with apex on the avila yet?
Mar 31 13:34:19 <[g2]> I had nearly a 103 fever on 1300Mg of tylenol
Mar 31 13:34:52 <beewoolie-away> [g2]: Ah, so if the bug didn't get you, the tylenol would.
Mar 31 13:35:50 <[g2]> dyoung-zzzz, I haven't played with Apex on avila yet
Mar 31 13:36:34 <[g2]> I've been on the fence about rigging up my digilent cable or just ordering the sw/proper cable from gateworks
Mar 31 13:36:58 <dyoung-zzzz> what kinda connector on the avila?
Mar 31 13:37:05 <[g2]> 2x7
Mar 31 13:37:36 <[g2]> I could probably order the connector from digi-key :)
Mar 31 13:38:05 <[g2]> ditto on the serial
Mar 31 13:38:21 <dyoung-zzzz> if its a standard "arm jtag" connector someone makes an adapter for xilinx cable -> arm jtag.
Mar 31 13:38:26 <dyoung-zzzz> whered I see that now..... 
Mar 31 13:38:50 <[g2]> the pinout is described on the pdf for the avila board
Mar 31 13:45:23 <[g2]> Pin 1 VCC3 pullup, 3->RST  5->TDI  7->TMS  9->TCK  11->TDO  13->VCC3 pullup    12->Board Reset
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