**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 04 23:59:56 2005 Jul 05 18:25:44 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, HEY! Jul 05 18:26:11 Hey man Jul 05 18:26:20 <[g2]> how goes dude ? Jul 05 18:26:29 I've been having problems with OSlug2.0 Jul 05 18:26:38 Apparently samba doesn't work on it. Jul 05 18:26:56 I've also been unable to get it to serve NFS filesystems. Jul 05 18:26:59 <[g2]> I thought NAiL was running it Jul 05 18:27:08 <[g2]> I've served NFS Jul 05 18:27:21 beewoolie-afk: yeye. I've just fixed pushed the fixes to stable. Haven't updated the feed though Jul 05 18:27:22 Nail says it doesn't work on 2.0 Jul 05 18:27:33 ...until now... lol Jul 05 18:27:44 <[g2]> good timing eh ? Jul 05 18:27:49 Yup Jul 05 18:27:50 The NFS problem is more strange. Jul 05 18:28:19 The mount call hangs. There doesn't seem to be any diagnostics to tell me where the problem is. Jul 05 18:30:11 <[g2]> Ok one minute Jul 05 18:31:07 I had to reboot, too. Jul 05 18:32:51 What does this mean? Jul 05 18:32:57 turnup: /tmp/rootfs.858: partition does not seem to be a valid root partition Jul 05 18:33:10 is the partition empty? Jul 05 18:33:26 Decidedly not. Jul 05 18:33:35 It was running a little while ago. Jul 05 18:33:48 do "turnup" without parameters and see the help output ;) Jul 05 18:33:50 I shut the slug down to move it back to the proper shelf. Jul 05 18:33:55 Now it doesn't boot to the HD. Jul 05 18:33:59 aha Jul 05 18:34:04 remove .recovery Jul 05 18:34:08 where? Jul 05 18:34:14 on the root disk Jul 05 18:34:17 It says it is in the /tmp, but tmp is empty Jul 05 18:34:35 mount the rootdisk somewhere, and remove .recovery (if it's there) Jul 05 18:34:36 <[g2]> is that in /initrd ? Jul 05 18:34:56 Ah, there it is. Jul 05 18:35:05 The error message is wrong. it says the file is in /tmp Jul 05 18:35:24 .recovery has bit me a couple of times Jul 05 18:35:43 Where does it come from? Jul 05 18:36:29 That fixed it. Seems like a bug since I shut the system down properly. Jul 05 18:36:34 linuxrc, I think. It's there to make the slug boot from flash if booting from rootdisk fails Jul 05 18:36:50 That doesn't make sense. Jul 05 18:36:59 How does it write to /dev/sda1 if it cannot mount it? Jul 05 18:37:48 [g2]: The first thing is that mountd doesn't start by default. Jul 05 18:37:49 if it cannot mount it, it boots from flash. If it can mount it, but something in the initscripts fail (for example), .recovery isn't removed... Jul 05 18:38:21 OK. So what failed? Looks very much like a bug from where I'm standing. Jul 05 18:38:33 If there was a failure, there is no indication of it. Jul 05 18:38:38 beewoolie-afk: *no* idea. As I said, it has bit me twice Jul 05 18:38:48 Fair enough. Jul 05 18:39:12 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, how did you turnup ? how did you reflash the 2.0 image ? Jul 05 18:39:18 I'm not sure who did that work... Good idea, but I think there's a bug in it somewhere ;) Jul 05 18:39:29 [g2]: Ah, the saga. Jul 05 18:40:03 I wanted to maintain APEX. So, I erased everything after sysconf and wrote that portion from the binary dist of 2.0 Jul 05 18:40:18 Once it booted, I erased most of the system directories on the HD and copied from flash to the HD. Jul 05 18:40:23 <[g2]> sounds very reasonable Jul 05 18:40:36 Worked the first time, but I was being really careful. Jul 05 18:40:51 I've installed a few things already. Mostly, it's working. Jul 05 18:40:59 Is swap enabled in the kernel/ Jul 05 18:41:20 <[g2]> yes Jul 05 18:41:39 OK. I have swap available, but it hasn'tyet been used. Just curious. Jul 05 18:41:46 <[g2]> I think you need to add it to fstab Jul 05 18:41:56 <[g2]> Ok, so you did "turnup" Jul 05 18:41:59 [g2]: How's the native dev stuff going? Jul 05 18:42:06 Oh, it's already mounting it. It's just that free isn't showing usage. Jul 05 18:42:14 # turnup disk /dev/sda1 Jul 05 18:42:21 <[g2]> and you didn't get all the files copies in the same way and the boot scripts setup like turnup sets them up Jul 05 18:42:24 That seems to work, too. Jul 05 18:42:35 Huh/ Jul 05 18:42:38 ? Jul 05 18:42:38 <[g2]> well initially you didn't Jul 05 18:42:46 I didn't? what makes you say that? Jul 05 18:42:47 <[g2]> and you've *never* did a turnup -i Jul 05 18:42:58 No. I have data on the drive that I don't want deleted. Jul 05 18:43:12 I read the turnup script and did the same thing. Jul 05 18:43:14 <[g2]> great. Jul 05 18:43:16 Copy only. Jul 05 18:43:28 <[g2]> I'll bet there's room for another tiny partition ? Jul 05 18:43:31 It would be 'handy' if the script had a target for updating the OS and leaving home alone. Jul 05 18:43:49 <[g2]> right Jul 05 18:43:50 Do you mean a partition for the OS? Jul 05 18:43:59 <[g2]> sure why not ? Jul 05 18:44:10 <[g2]> you don't want anything modified on the other parition Jul 05 18:44:13 <[g2]> right ? Jul 05 18:44:15 Tiny partitions have a habit of filling up. Jul 05 18:44:25 <[g2]> how big is your disk ? Jul 05 18:44:35 Um, isn't that a bit personal? Jul 05 18:44:36 <[g2]> the root partition is just 8MB Jul 05 18:45:07 Once packages are installed, it is reasonable to expect that the OS will take several hundred megs. Jul 05 18:45:19 <[g2]> nod Jul 05 18:45:19 I'd like to see emacs running, for example. Jul 05 18:45:26 <[g2]> great Jul 05 18:45:41 <[g2]> the question is how is maintenance performed Jul 05 18:45:43 Anyway, mountd isn't running. Jul 05 18:45:58 And the NFS modules don't load by default. what gives? Jul 05 18:46:14 beewoolie-afk: because not everyone uses nfs? Jul 05 18:46:22 But, I installed the package. Jul 05 18:46:28 <[g2]> they worked fine for me Jul 05 18:46:37 In 2.0? Jul 05 18:46:51 <[g2]> sure 2.0+ Jul 05 18:47:18 So, if you reboot your slug right now and then do #lsmod you'll see the nfsd module? Jul 05 18:47:25 <[g2]> no Jul 05 18:47:37 <[g2]> but I and setup nfsd Jul 05 18:47:45 Again? Jul 05 18:48:55 <[g2]> ok... Jul 05 18:49:07 <[g2]> You've done the following: Jul 05 18:49:07 Looks like there are a couple of pieces missing. Jul 05 18:49:16 ... and you know what they say about guys with Big Discs. Jul 05 18:49:17 I had to mkdir /var/lib/nfs Jul 05 18:49:31 <[g2]> ipkg install kernel-module-nfs kernel-module-nfsd nfs-utils Jul 05 18:49:32 Um, they've got big files? Jul 05 18:49:38 Yeah. Jul 05 18:49:39 Check. Jul 05 18:49:42 <[g2]> mkdir /var/lib/nfs Jul 05 18:49:51 Check-a-check. Jul 05 18:50:05 <[g2]> created your /etc/exports files Jul 05 18:50:10 Check-a-check. Jul 05 18:50:22 <[g2]> exportfs -a Jul 05 18:50:27 Had to create /var/lib/nfs/rmtab, too Jul 05 18:50:30 Check-a-check. Jul 05 18:50:33 <[g2]> mountd Jul 05 18:50:43 Check-a-check. Jul 05 18:50:55 <[g2]> what's showmount say ? Jul 05 18:51:12 Complains. Jul 05 18:51:14 Oh, right, the fixed nfs-utils isnt in the feed is it. Jul 05 18:51:49 dyoung-web: anything I should know about? ;) Jul 05 18:51:59 <[g2]> dyoung-web, so it's been in repo for how long ? Jul 05 18:52:11 <[g2]> but not push to the feed ? Jul 05 18:52:11 a while. Jul 05 18:52:19 mount: 192.168.8.205:/home: can't read superblock Jul 05 18:52:21 <[g2]> at least 3 weeks right ? Jul 05 18:52:32 Yes. Jul 05 18:52:42 Showmount works once I add an entry into /etc/hosts for the local host. Jul 05 18:53:07 <[g2]> ok, beewoolie-afk I'm sorry I didn't know the feed was broke Jul 05 18:53:20 That's my job. Jul 05 18:53:27 * [g2] never uses the feed since I build all my own Jul 05 18:53:46 <[g2]> it's *important* to test and verify stuff Jul 05 18:53:49 NAiL: we're talking about nfs-utils . Jul 05 18:54:24 <[g2]> we've had long discussions about the OpenSlug Package manager role and what's happening there Jul 05 18:54:28 dyoung-web: Kinda noticed. I'm going to update the feed to fix some stuff (e.g. samba) Jul 05 18:54:38 I dont think r1 of nfs-utils ever made it to feed. Thats the one with the fixed bit to sysstatdir . Jul 05 18:56:57 [g2]: Yeah, I've pushed samba-fixes to stable. Making nfs-utils work in stable isn't a bad idea either :P Jul 05 18:57:06 Just as an aside, in what way is nfs-utils special for the slug? I'd expect that it would work here if it works on Debian. Jul 05 18:57:22 <[g2]> NAiL, I saw that in the changesets, thx Jul 05 18:57:35 <[g2]> NAiL, you've been doing a lot of good work Jul 05 18:57:49 ~praise NAiL Jul 05 18:57:50 All hail NAiL! Jul 05 18:57:52 beewoolie-afk: I dont think theres anything special about it; but it was labelled as broken in OE for a long time. Jul 05 18:57:58 beewoolie-afk: so i fixed it. Jul 05 18:58:05 the stuff today has just been minor stuff. Haven't taken on any large projects. Jul 05 18:58:08 OK. That makes more sense. Jul 05 18:58:28 <[g2]> Tis the beauty and the bane of OE Jul 05 18:58:49 and I wanted NFS, so the only recourse was to fix it myself. :-) Jul 05 18:58:54 Now, if I can get the stable build set up on nudi, I'll rebuild and push the ipks Jul 05 18:59:18 I'm going to be pushing to make the Openslug feed stable enough for real work. That's part of the reason I'd like to see ipv6 modules available. Jul 05 18:59:27 * [g2] has been using it from (fixed) repo not knowing it was broke in the feed Jul 05 18:59:30 dyoung-web: any major changes to nfs-utils, or just a minor fix? Jul 05 19:00:50 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, I think OpenSlug is ready for pre-production testing Jul 05 19:00:57 beewoolie-afk: That's what I'm doing too. I'd appreciate if you'd run changes by me so I know what's happening. Jul 05 19:01:02 <[g2]> the feed not matching the repo is a big issue Jul 05 19:01:33 [g2]: working on it, working on it ;) Jul 05 19:01:38 My plan is to not make any changes myself. Jul 05 19:02:00 let me know when I should pull samba and the nfs-utils and I'll have another go. Jul 05 19:02:25 <[g2]> great! Jul 05 19:02:40 <[g2]> NAiL, can you let beewoolie-afk know or let me know and I'll forward it to him Jul 05 19:02:42 The ipv6 stuff is just a request. I'm moving all of my systems to dual-stacks which lets me create a meta-network Jul 05 19:03:08 <[g2]> I've been deep in the native-compile world Jul 05 19:03:26 <[g2]> I'm running natively compile Apache 2.0 with SSL and PHP5 Jul 05 19:03:47 <[g2]> all the Perl 5.8.7 tests pass and all be 3 of the Python tests Jul 05 19:03:59 nail, the only major change was for the creation of /var/lib/nfs and associated status directories/files Jul 05 19:04:13 I had to create an rmtab file in there. Jul 05 19:04:17 dyoung-web: ok, sounds like no major stuff Jul 05 19:04:43 beewoolie-afk: that was one of the htings that was fixed. Jul 05 19:04:50 OK. Jul 05 19:05:02 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, Sorry for the confusion Jul 05 20:09:20 NAiL: nfs-utils: just needs a startup script I think - i.e. I got it to run just by executing the programs in the ipkg in the right order. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 05 23:59:56 2005