**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 10 23:59:57 2005 Jul 11 07:16:24 Hi [g2] Jul 11 07:24:19 <[g2]> Morning ep1220 ! Jul 11 07:24:48 I now can talk to the FTDI in LINUX Jul 11 07:24:59 <[g2]> cool! Jul 11 07:26:14 But can not use serial and JTAG at the same time Jul 11 07:27:03 <[g2]> you can use both together in window right ? Jul 11 07:27:08 Yes. Jul 11 07:27:28 The FTDI serial driver in the Linux kernel grabs both IFs Jul 11 07:27:38 and does not allow others to access them Jul 11 07:28:19 <[g2]> the Linux driver could be changed right ? Jul 11 07:28:29 It is open source. Jul 11 07:29:24 Actually I have to rmmod ftdi_sio and usbserial to get access. Jul 11 14:12:04 Hey, what happened to the wiki? Jul 11 14:12:44 links were removed and need to be approved?!? Jul 11 14:13:54 Tiersten, got an idea? Jul 11 14:51:40 hiya beewoolie-afk Jul 11 14:55:48 ka6sox: I just discovered the "info" part of the wiki Jul 11 14:56:00 I upgraded the wiki software. It requires all new links to be approved. Jul 11 14:56:11 no links go there from the main page Jul 11 14:56:23 Tiesten: that seems a bit drastic Jul 11 14:56:57 It's the only way to stop the spam Jul 11 14:57:07 Did we get spam? Jul 11 14:57:37 JMunakra: Tiersten has cleaned up the WikiSpam and spent a LOT Of hours fixin it up....I think its appropriate. Jul 11 14:58:36 What kind of spam was there? Like automatically added link farms? Jul 11 14:58:40 We kept getting links added for porno Jul 11 14:58:40 yeah Jul 11 14:58:47 heh Jul 11 14:58:48 I kept removing it and they kept adding it back Jul 11 14:59:06 Tell me where your links are and I'll approve it. I thought I caught them all? Jul 11 14:59:12 Do they still add it, but it's unapproved? Jul 11 14:59:22 Yeah. But they don't usually come back Jul 11 14:59:26 http://www.openjtag.net/wiki/Main/HardwarePossibleSolutions Jul 11 14:59:32 I think they're paying random idiots peanuts to actually do it manually Jul 11 14:59:32 what page? Jul 11 14:59:42 I've deleted the pages Jul 11 14:59:55 ah Jul 11 14:59:59 Done Jul 11 15:00:08 but they insert links into existing pages? Jul 11 15:00:11 Yeah Jul 11 15:00:23 At the end and in the middle of the text. I just reverted it back to an earlier revision Jul 11 15:00:55 Maybe you could add a picture-number-enter-thingy for edits. Jul 11 15:01:15 I think it's manual because I see them trying to approve the links and then giving up Jul 11 15:01:47 If it's manual, they must be huge idiots Jul 11 15:02:12 Enough broke people out there that are willing to be paid a few cents per link I guess Jul 11 15:02:34 yeah :P Jul 11 15:03:44 "Because irony can also refer [[http://romario.byondart.com/romario.html | romario]] to other kinds of incongruity, [[http://figo.byondart.com/figo.html | figo]] can't it? Like for instance [[http://jenifer-lopez.byondart.com/jenifer-lopez.html | jenifer lopez]] incongruities of reception, [[http://sepultura.byondart.com/sepultura.html | sepultura]]" Jul 11 15:03:53 That's part of one of the spam attempts Jul 11 15:04:25 hopefully the logs don't get indexed because I don't want to help their page rank :| Jul 11 15:04:51 Hm, there is a way to exclude them from Google. Jul 11 15:05:25 Yeah. There is some thing where you can say which pages you want to be indexed but it doesn't really work very well if it's a wiki when I lasted looked at it Jul 11 15:05:32 Why does the wiki software make a link from the text 'I2C' ? Jul 11 15:06:20 It thinks it's a wikiword Jul 11 15:06:47 Stuff that is MiXeD caps is a wikiword and so is stuff that is all caps and has a digit Jul 11 15:06:49 *shrug* Jul 11 15:06:55 you have to escape it. Jul 11 15:07:04 [=I2C=] Jul 11 15:07:20 Or I²C if you want it to look right with the superscript 2 Jul 11 15:07:54 I thought wiki was made so people don't need to learn something like HTML. Jul 11 15:08:16 it has its own markup Jul 11 15:08:17 this wiki engine its not very intuitive Jul 11 15:08:36 You don't. Nothing to stop you from not putting in the extra markup Jul 11 15:08:43 its better than *most* of the engines. Jul 11 15:09:07 and the editing page has the information on the markup. Jul 11 15:09:18 Yeah, that's good. Jul 11 15:09:48 I can set the flag that forces you to make all the wikiword links explicit but most people then can't work out how to create new pages Jul 11 15:09:50 *shrug* Jul 11 15:11:17 maybe you can put that info on the edit page Jul 11 15:12:48 that would mean rewriting the PHP. Jul 11 15:13:08 :-) Jul 11 15:15:05 JMunakra: so how are we going to speed up this 498bit JTAG chain? Jul 11 15:15:59 lets check what our wiki says Jul 11 15:16:17 I think someone mentioned they found a way to logically shorten the chain? Jul 11 15:16:42 w00t.... Jul 11 15:16:53 I have no details, maybe I'm mistaken Jul 11 15:17:10 * ka6sox is 10km beyond the Resturant at the End of the Universe. Jul 11 15:18:26 I thought that only worked in EJTAG? Jul 11 15:18:36 what is EJTAG? Jul 11 15:19:09 MIPS Jul 11 15:20:09 what, MIPS? Jul 11 15:20:27 It's a extension made to the JTAG spec by the MIPS people. They just added some extra registers which are equiv to certain portions of the full BSR Jul 11 15:20:39 Like one for the address lines, data lines etc... Jul 11 15:21:33 Is it like on ARM7TDMI, where you can choose different scan chains? The ARM7TDMI has 3 different chains. Jul 11 15:21:44 But that's regular JTAG Jul 11 15:22:19 would there be a different BSD?\ Jul 11 15:22:23 Sort of. You update these virtual registers and you're actually updating parts of the BSR Jul 11 15:22:46 er bsr. Jul 11 15:24:30 The ARM7TDMI has an instruction SCAN_N which allows to set the chain you want to access. Jul 11 15:29:43 Don't believe we've got that in the IXP420 Jul 11 15:30:50 <[g2]> ep1220 is the IXP4xx JTAG master Jul 11 15:31:20 I think you said he had it working with one of the FTDI chips? Jul 11 15:31:41 <[g2]> yes lots of stuff Jul 11 15:32:04 <[g2]> I don't think there are any additional devices on the chain in the NSLU2 case though Jul 11 15:32:13 Nope. It's just the IXP420 Jul 11 15:32:39 <[g2]> makes for more difficult testing :) Jul 11 15:32:41 Well that sounds like it's not just the processor core? Jul 11 15:33:00 It's all pins of the controller? Jul 11 15:33:26 It's not just the XScale core inside Jul 11 15:33:35 <[g2]> what all 498 of them Jul 11 15:34:32 I have a chip which has 2 electrical TDI/TDO pairs, one is for the ARM core, the other is for the whole chip Jul 11 15:34:52 the whole chip chain is significantly longer than the ARM chain Jul 11 15:35:13 There is only a single JTAG interface for the IXP420 and it covers the whole chip Jul 11 15:36:06 Is it even possible to access the processor debug unit? Jul 11 15:36:22 <[g2]> nod. Jul 11 15:36:30 Yes. ep1220 has done it Jul 11 15:36:56 populate the i-cache and move data. Jul 11 15:37:20 Page 567 of the IXP42x manual Jul 11 15:49:01 ~lart ka6sox Jul 11 15:49:01 * purl beats ka6sox into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy Jul 11 15:49:41 that fits. Jul 11 15:56:29 ~lart ka6sox Jul 11 15:56:30 * purl takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down ka6sox's throat until ka6sox puts on 150lbs Jul 11 15:56:34 hehe Jul 11 15:58:30 * ka6sox will have to buy another seat on the airplane for the trip home. Jul 11 18:59:07 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, ping Jul 11 22:05:42 looks interesting: http://www.sparkfun.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&itemid=447 Jul 11 23:19:17 jacques: am I missing the JTAG functionality or is it really not there? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 11 23:59:57 2005