**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 19 23:59:56 2005 Jul 20 10:01:08 prpplague: yo Jul 20 10:01:11 [g2]: yo Jul 20 10:01:28 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, hey! Jul 20 10:01:39 <[g2]> what's up ? Jul 20 10:01:52 [g2]: so, did jbowler find a solution to the restart problem? Jul 20 10:02:09 <[g2]> think so Jul 20 10:02:17 <[g2]> more jbowler-zzz than me :) Jul 20 10:02:40 Do you know what was the problem/ Jul 20 10:02:41 ? Jul 20 10:02:51 <[g2]> it's what you had suggested about the flash not being in the right mode Jul 20 10:03:37 Hmm. Cool. Jul 20 10:03:41 ~praise jbowler-zzz Jul 20 10:03:42 All hail jbowler-zzz! Jul 20 10:03:45 beewoolie-afk: hey hey Jul 20 10:03:48 beewoolie-afk: what up? Jul 20 10:04:09 prpplague: I spent a bunch of time on the LCD. It looks like the panel is sloppy Jul 20 10:04:19 beewoolie-afk: ahh Jul 20 10:04:29 <[g2]> so a 2.3-beta release is getting ready that has that plus the noirqdebug command line to disable those messages Jul 20 10:04:30 It doesn't display green well and there are lines between 'cells' of pels Jul 20 10:04:36 beewoolie-afk: i'm sorry, i didn't have much time to spend on it Jul 20 10:04:40 [g2]: Excellent! Jul 20 10:04:53 NP. I just wanted to know if I was being crazy Jul 20 10:05:01 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, I'd like to try that rootdelay option too Jul 20 10:05:12 It turns out that I was already using the right PEL_CLOCK value. Jul 20 10:05:22 [g2]: What is rootdelay? Jul 20 10:05:48 <[g2]> after 2.6.11 they added a specific option in the kernel to delay loading the rootfs Jul 20 10:06:11 <[g2]> Jacmet used it in booting debian LE on his slug Jul 20 10:06:44 <[g2]> I think we can change the kernel to include ext2/3 and then boot directly to the external device Jul 20 10:07:10 I'm not making the connection. How does delaying mounting of the rootfs help? Jul 20 10:07:11 <[g2]> rootfs=/dev/sda1 rootdelay=5 Jul 20 10:07:47 <[g2]> because the device like USB isn't fully initialized before it trys to mount it Jul 20 10:08:06 Hmm. That sounds like a hack. Jul 20 10:08:18 <[g2]> it's a timing problem Jul 20 10:08:30 <[g2]> and it's mainline kernel code Jul 20 10:08:42 right. And adding a delay is a non-deterministic solution. Jul 20 10:09:08 <[g2]> I didn't say it was a great solution :) Jul 20 10:09:17 OK. I get it now. Jul 20 10:09:36 <[g2]> about a year or two ago I run into the problem trying to boot my desktop to usb flash Jul 20 10:09:59 <[g2]> the linuxrc ran by hand but not by itself Jul 20 10:10:21 <[g2]> a sleep cured it Jul 20 10:21:46 They have a similar problem with LinuxBIOS and HDs Jul 20 10:22:07 It boots so fast that the drives haven't finished init and it fails. Put in a little delay and its fine **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 20 23:59:56 2005