**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 23 02:59:56 2005 Aug 24 01:50:40 Hi :) Aug 24 02:00:20 hi Aug 24 02:03:44 hey :) Aug 24 02:03:49 are you busy? Aug 24 02:03:54 I'm bored and can't sleep.. Aug 24 02:03:59 I wanna know about jtag more. Aug 24 02:04:28 kinda busy..working on my monotone and cvs issues... Aug 24 02:05:18 oh ok... Aug 24 02:05:23 what's a monotone and cvs? Aug 24 02:05:42 content management systems for developers Aug 24 02:05:48 oh :) Aug 24 02:05:50 neat.. Aug 24 02:05:55 ya Aug 24 02:05:57 well I wanna get a jtag thingy Aug 24 02:06:02 for AVR Aug 24 02:06:10 jtag is jtag right? Aug 24 02:06:13 for any processor? Aug 24 02:06:17 there are plenty of cheap units out there. Aug 24 02:06:25 and you can homebrew one for about $12 Aug 24 02:06:27 Unless its that other JTAG. Aug 24 02:06:41 what the heck was it called? The MIPS one? Aug 24 02:06:43 oh I don't want that "other" jtag Aug 24 02:06:52 oh.. nope I do avr right now. Aug 24 02:06:56 ATmega Aug 24 02:06:56 the signals should be the same though. Aug 24 02:07:04 do you have the url for the home brew one? Aug 24 02:07:07 eJTAG Aug 24 02:07:08 I'm using the $19 cable from Digilent. Aug 24 02:07:10 I wanna also do MSP-430 Aug 24 02:07:13 that chip rox Aug 24 02:10:05 http://www.digilentinc.com/ Aug 24 02:10:21 Yep. Aug 24 02:10:30 it's $24 now Aug 24 02:11:42 oh wait they have one for $12 Aug 24 02:11:54 http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Cables.cfm Aug 24 02:11:57 JTAG3 Aug 24 02:11:59 what's that? Aug 24 02:12:02 I mean the 3? Aug 24 02:12:25 wow looks good :) heh Aug 24 02:12:34 these things used to be like 100 bux Aug 24 02:12:40 not the cable.. Aug 24 02:12:45 I mean JTAG Aug 24 02:12:56 that was about the cheapest I could find like a year or so ago. Aug 24 02:13:08 Its no speed demon. Aug 24 02:13:10 so like what can JTAG do for me... well I could google. Aug 24 02:13:17 ah.. Aug 24 02:13:22 JTAG is just the model name. Aug 24 02:13:30 they are both slow right? Aug 24 02:13:34 I mean both cables? Aug 24 02:13:41 Its a clone of the Xilinx-3 cable. Aug 24 02:13:43 you know, I'm old skool okay Aug 24 02:13:52 ah I see. Aug 24 02:14:05 I debug by sense of smell. Aug 24 02:14:07 <--- 46 Aug 24 02:14:12 using bit ports etc.. Aug 24 02:14:23 if youre using this with the OpenWinCE JTAG Tools; you'll define it as a DLC5. Aug 24 02:14:29 I even have a morse code algorithm that will report things like stack usage and stuff like that.. Aug 24 02:14:39 I use www.micrium.com RTOS a lot. Aug 24 02:15:03 well I would use this with ATmega series Aug 24 02:15:06 how many people still can read morse? Aug 24 02:15:15 (I can but at VERY low rates) Aug 24 02:15:26 .... .. Aug 24 02:16:19 yeah I can at low rates but I can't read it :( Aug 24 02:16:21 .... . .... . Aug 24 02:16:23 I can hear it htought. Aug 24 02:16:53 when I use it with uCOS-II (an RTOS) it reports stack and memory usage and idle time.. etc. Aug 24 02:17:02 like 5 wpm but you can change the speed of course. Aug 24 02:18:54 I did that once upon a time. Aug 24 02:19:07 it's a state machine :) Aug 24 02:19:15 yeah I used to be a ham... Aug 24 02:19:24 peaked at about 20-23 wpm Aug 24 02:19:31 now I can barely do maybe 3 Aug 24 02:19:36 it's not like riding a bicycle :( Aug 24 02:23:38 hey if anyone here is into embedded systems we have an embedded systems channel on EFNet that is growing... usually around 50.... it's #nop Aug 24 02:30:19 I think most of the folk here are into embedded at some leve. Aug 24 02:30:20 l Aug 24 02:36:01 well EFNet #nop rox :) Aug 24 02:36:07 we talk a lot about avr (like right now) Aug 24 02:37:11 well ok enough spamming huh? :) heh **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 24 02:59:56 2005