**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 15 02:59:56 2005
Oct 15 04:25:06 <[g2]> ep1220 ping
Oct 15 06:45:10 <ep1220> [g2]: pong
Oct 15 08:52:18 <[g2]> ep1220-log doh!
Oct 15 08:52:40 <[g2]> ep1220-log how's the board ?
Oct 15 08:53:22 <[g2]> and I'm guessing I don't need anything other the TRSTN and System reset other than the normal JTAG connectors to do the Icache loading trick
Oct 15 09:38:40 <ep1220> [g2]: The 2 reset lines are all You need.
Oct 15 10:17:47 <[g2]> ep1220-log THX
Oct 15 14:40:43 <lennert> ka6sox-office: i have pong 0.0.1 ready and waiting
Oct 15 14:41:06 <lennert> ka6sox-office: top.sch is now top.vhd, and it includes a Makefile to enable building with the linux web pack
Oct 15 14:52:35 <dyoung-away> Woo
Oct 15 14:52:44 <dyoung-away> t!
Oct 15 15:00:52 <lennert> the advantage being that i have linux everywhere, while if i want to use windows, i have to drag my via epia box along in my backpack
Oct 15 15:01:45 <dyoung-away> apt-get install webpack
Oct 15 15:01:57 <lennert> kind of, yes
Oct 15 15:02:02 <lennert> it works quite nicely
Oct 15 15:02:08 <lennert> their gui shite is even more shite than under windows
Oct 15 15:02:12 <lennert> but at least the command line tools work
Oct 15 15:02:19 <lennert> and i have their gazillion extensions figured out now
Oct 15 15:02:31 <lennert> bgn bit bld drc ncd ngc ngd ngr pad par pcf spl sym syr xpi
Oct 15 15:02:38 <dyoung-away> Yeah those
Oct 15 15:02:50 <lennert> i have no idea what file is what
Oct 15 15:02:56 <lennert> but i at least know which tool generates what
Oct 15 15:03:18 <dyoung-away> me neither, all thats really important is the ucf and vhd.. I think you can get the rest from those.
Oct 15 15:03:27 <lennert> yes
Oct 15 15:03:34 <lennert> create ngc ngr syr from vhd
Oct 15 15:03:40 <lennert> create bld ngd from ngc ucf
Oct 15 15:03:52 <lennert> create mrp ncd ngm pcf from ngd
Oct 15 15:03:58 <lennert> create ncd pad par xpi from ncd pcf
Oct 15 15:04:01 <lennert> create bit from ncd
Oct 15 15:04:03 <lennert> ta da =p
Oct 15 15:04:14 <lennert> only five easy stept
Oct 15 15:04:17 <lennert> steps
Oct 15 15:04:23 <dyoung-away> Yep
Oct 15 15:04:30 <dyoung-away> I suppose you hae a makefile for all this now
Oct 15 15:04:32 <dyoung-away> too
Oct 15 15:04:34 <lennert> yup
Oct 15 15:04:46 <dyoung-away> I should borrow it. :-)
Oct 15 15:04:53 <lennert> i will send it
Oct 15 15:05:05 <lennert> just applying finishing touches
Oct 15 15:05:18 <dyoung-away> thats the other reason why I need to stay with windows daily.  The first reason is a motorola cross compiler that only runs under windows.
Oct 15 15:06:38 <lennert> yeah
Oct 15 15:06:42 <lennert> ok, top.vhd needs rewriting by hand
Oct 15 15:06:49 <lennert> but i'll just put online what i have
Oct 15 15:07:40 <lennert> i also have a small tool that allows you to upload the .bit via parallel jtag, but openwince can probably do that too, right
Oct 15 15:07:48 <lennert> ?
Oct 15 15:11:17 <dyoung-away> Is that just plain 'ol binary?
Oct 15 15:11:24 <lennert> .bit ?
Oct 15 15:11:27 <dyoung-away> yeah
Oct 15 15:11:28 <lennert> yeah, .bit is binary
Oct 15 15:11:51 <dyoung-away> open-wince tool should be able to do it.
Oct 15 15:12:20 <lennert> it supports xilinx-style in-circuit programming?
Oct 15 15:13:29 <lennert> http://www.wantstofly.org/~buytenh/vhdl/pong-0.0.1.tar.gz
Oct 15 15:13:45 <dyoung-away> Theres a BDSL for a couple of Xilinx parts.
Oct 15 15:13:48 <lennert> rgbding.vhd is slightly buggy but i'll fix that later
Oct 15 15:14:01 <lennert> dyoung-away: BSDL doesn't mean that it supports that
Oct 15 15:14:13 <lennert> dyoung-away: BSDL is just the description of the scan chain for INTEST and EXTEST and SAMPLE
Oct 15 15:14:32 <lennert> dyoung-away: in-circuit programming uses a totally different 'scan chain'
Oct 15 15:14:38 <dyoung-away> Right; but knowing about the ... oh.
Oct 15 15:14:47 <dyoung-away> I dunno then
Oct 15 15:15:28 <dyoung-away> It probably doesnt.
Oct 15 15:16:11 <lennert> i've not used it so far
Oct 15 15:16:13 <lennert> anyway
Oct 15 15:16:15 <lennert> bed time
Oct 15 15:16:16 <lennert> g'nite all
Oct 15 15:16:22 <dyoung-away> ok
Oct 15 15:16:23 <dyoung-away> nite.
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