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Nov 29 10:01:07 <[g2]> lennert continues to roll
Nov 29 10:01:17 <[g2]> ep1220 hey
Nov 29 10:01:30 <prpplague> ~whalebomb [g2]
Nov 29 10:01:32 * purl throws an explosive whale at [g2] and hides
Nov 29 10:01:38 <[g2]> heh
Nov 29 10:01:50 <[g2]> prpplague do you do much JTAG debugging ?
Nov 29 10:02:30 <prpplague> [g2]: some, mostly limited to some reverse engineering and usually just some sdram init problems during initial board bring up
Nov 29 10:02:41 <prpplague> [g2]: been sorta hacking jtager 
Nov 29 10:04:09 <prpplague> [g2]: not enough hours in the day to learn everything i need
Nov 29 10:06:55 <[g2]> you probably have an abatron or something similar
Nov 29 10:07:35 <prpplague> [g2]: i have a laugterbach, but i don't care for it
Nov 29 10:07:51 <prpplague> [g2]: i try to use/improve opensource tools when i can
Nov 29 10:08:02 <prpplague> i've been thinking about getting a bdi
Nov 29 10:08:04 <prpplague> but.....
Nov 29 10:08:08 <prpplague> $$$$
Nov 29 10:08:19 <bullet> how much is it, actually?
Nov 29 10:09:51 <prpplague> bullet: depending on where you buy its about $2500.00USD
Nov 29 10:10:04 <bullet> ugh
Nov 29 10:11:07 <vmaster_> that's cheap
Nov 29 10:11:16 <vmaster_> here it's the same in euros
Nov 29 10:11:58 <[g2]> so we should all buy ep1220's little device and start hacking on the JTAG debugging
Nov 29 10:12:22 <[g2]> and then move over to the FPGA when lennert has the whole Xilinx worked out
Nov 29 10:12:43 <[g2]> that'll be in about 5 more minutes :)
Nov 29 10:13:35 <vmaster> [g2]: ideally, your debugging software is independent from the underlying jtag hardware
Nov 29 10:15:30 <vmaster> i received an email from amontec today - laurent sent me a new config for their chameleon, based on my epp_jtag - if everything works, this should allow >50kb/s arm7/9 download speed :)
Nov 29 10:17:38 <[g2]> cool
Nov 29 10:17:45 <lennert> [g2]: i'm pulling another all-nighter but i don't think i'll get there just yet, and i don't think it'll help in achieving that goal :)
Nov 29 10:18:16 <[g2]> lennert heh
Nov 29 10:18:37 <prpplague> vmaster: sounds nice
Nov 29 10:18:59 <[g2]> lennert I would like to have the ability to break in with JTAG
Nov 29 10:19:15 <[g2]> and take control of the processor and see what it's doing
Nov 29 10:20:45 * [g2] runs out for some lunch
Nov 29 10:21:42 <lennert> [g2]: on the v2pro, you mean?  or any ole' arm cpu?
Nov 29 10:22:34 <vmaster> mhh, isn't g2 into mips debugging?
Nov 29 10:22:38 <vmaster> ah, no
Nov 29 10:22:40 <vmaster> that was key2
Nov 29 10:27:14 <lennert> [g2] does arm stuff
Nov 29 10:27:43 <prpplague> the number one thing jtag debugging helps me with is board bringups, sdram inits always are an issue when bringing up new hardware
Nov 29 14:41:27 <[g2]> vmaster mips was before ARM :)
Nov 29 14:41:29 <[g2]> wrt54g
Nov 29 14:42:55 <vmaster> ah, ok - and what ARMs?
Nov 29 14:44:54 <[g2]> XScale and a little ARM9
Nov 29 14:45:07 <[g2]> I've got some Cirrus EP930x boards
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