**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 01 02:59:57 2006 Jan 01 19:38:43 <[g2]> howdy sgmiller Jan 01 19:55:59 hello! **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 11:55:02 2006 Jan 02 16:58:05 beewoolie-afk! Jan 02 16:58:14 Hey, lennert Jan 02 16:58:21 Are you still in Lithuania? Jan 02 16:58:39 yup Jan 02 16:58:43 until jan 15-something Jan 02 16:58:53 Do you go to banya? Jan 02 16:59:03 nope, they don't really have that here, i think Jan 02 16:59:11 All Things Russian have been banned from the country Jan 02 16:59:18 Are you serious? Jan 02 16:59:29 soviet symbols will be constitutionally forbidden here soon Jan 02 16:59:32 We have one here in Seattle. Jan 02 16:59:36 i.e. the hammer and the other thing Jan 02 16:59:49 they compare the soviet symbols to the nazi swastika here Jan 02 16:59:56 Hmm. Seems shortsighted to ban the steam bath. Jan 02 17:00:07 and they're actually demanding compensation from russia for 'war crimes' Jan 02 17:00:39 well, they haven't exactly banned banya.. it's just, you know, hard to 'buy' (wink) a business license Jan 02 17:01:17 Hmm. Sad. Jan 02 17:01:25 germany pays compensation to victims of ww ii partly because germany's economy got a big boost off ww ii Jan 02 17:01:38 you can't really say that russia is so well off after communism collapsed, though Jan 02 17:01:55 combine that with the fact that lithuania was a fscking swamp before the soviets ever set foot on it Jan 02 17:02:09 and you'll find lithuania's current attitude more than just slightly outrageous Jan 02 17:02:15 but who am i to judge.. Jan 02 17:02:29 :) Jan 02 17:02:36 and how are you doing in the new year? Jan 02 17:03:31 yesterday, I had the most awesome good time I've had all year. Jan 02 17:03:40 wow! what did you do? Jan 02 17:04:17 (then again.. "the most awesome good time I've had all year" doesn't sound so impressive if 'year' refers to 2006 :) Jan 02 17:05:15 Practically nothing. Dollface and I stayed over after new year's eve at a friends' house. The next day we arose at noon, had breakfast, a walk with the dog, some Atari, lunch, and watched the Big Lebowski. Jan 02 17:05:22 Hey! Jan 02 17:05:30 the Big Lebowski is cool :) Jan 02 17:05:33 it's true as true can be. Jan 02 17:05:41 dude Jan 02 17:06:00 I also had the best eggs I'd eaten all year, the best coffee, and met the friendliest people Jan 02 17:06:45 This will not stand! This agression will not stand, man! Jan 02 17:06:54 well, it's probabaly true.. Jan 02 17:07:00 it sounds kind of like my other half, though Jan 02 17:07:05 she's an 'optimist' like that Jan 02 17:07:13 i.e. she knows how to find good things in even the worst situations Jan 02 17:07:17 "What I need is my Johnson." "What do you need that for, dude?" Jan 02 17:07:21 and her reasoning often goes the same way Jan 02 17:07:49 well.. "Fsck sympathy! I don't need your fsckin' sympathy, man, I need my fscking Johnson!" Jan 02 17:07:49 I like good things. Jan 02 17:08:04 You've seen it a few more times than I have... Jan 02 17:08:26 it's one of the best movies i watched on that day in 2005 Jan 02 17:08:37 (actually, it's in my top 10!) Jan 02 17:08:59 i get up here round 2pm Jan 02 17:09:08 people go to bed at 9pm.. and i stay up until 3am, which is great Jan 02 17:09:17 it's so silent.. i can actually study pretty well Jan 02 17:09:26 What are you working on? Jan 02 17:09:52 i'm 'studying' EE Jan 02 17:10:13 i got all the books for the first two years and am working my way through them Jan 02 17:10:22 when i get done, i will go to uni and do the relevant exams Jan 02 17:10:25 Ah. So, you're not at university. Jan 02 17:10:31 i decided not to go to classes. Jan 02 17:10:43 i just hate sitting in classes.. so very very passive and dull. Jan 02 17:10:45 Works if you are motivated and can get your questions answered. Jan 02 17:10:50 yeah Jan 02 17:11:01 I liked EE. Jan 02 17:11:16 i am very motivated (usually study until deep into the night) and i tend to answer my own questions a few weeks later Jan 02 17:55:55 <[g2]> sgmiller around ? Jan 02 17:57:41 <[g2]> lennert beewoolie-afk dyoung-away ka6sox -- sgmiller is a hw guy who's built some USB hw and is connecting it to the slug Jan 02 17:58:01 Hey [g2]! I'm talking to dollface at the moment. She says hi. Jan 02 17:58:18 beewoolie-afk: her parents called her that way, huh :) Jan 02 17:58:25 <[g2]> hey dollface! happy new year to you and her Jan 02 17:59:29 lennert: I don't feel it is appropriate to bandy her name about like an advertising jingle. Jan 02 18:00:01 [g2]: Yes I know; I was attempting to help him get it to buildable form in OE. Jan 02 18:00:12 beewoolie-afk: dollface wouldn't exactly be a compliment in dutch.. :) Jan 02 18:00:33 hmm, i do call my other half marija 'in public' Jan 02 18:00:54 Whoa! Are your dolls ugly or what? Jan 02 18:01:14 no, it just doesn't sound very nice in dutch Jan 02 18:01:29 over here we have matroshka! Jan 02 18:01:53 Is that the nesting dolls? Jan 02 18:01:57 yeah Jan 02 18:02:11 one piece of russian culture that's not banned yet :P Jan 02 18:02:22 She doesn't look like that. Think more like a porcelain doll. Jan 02 18:02:34 hmmm Jan 02 18:02:45 Delicate like a flower. Jan 02 18:02:55 i associate that with only one thing.. plastic surgery Jan 02 18:03:18 those dolls look too perfect Jan 02 18:03:23 She's not russian. Jan 02 18:03:25 like barbie Jan 02 18:03:33 well, no Jan 02 18:03:33 Not barbie, either. Jan 02 18:03:56 1940's gangster groupie. Jan 02 18:04:04 ? Jan 02 18:04:10 Good with a power-saw. Jan 02 18:04:18 well well Jan 02 18:04:21 not quite barbie then Jan 02 18:09:51 dyoung-away: What's the USB stuff about? Jan 02 18:11:08 Power Tool! Jan 02 18:11:09 CUT Jan 02 18:11:19 uhm Jan 02 18:11:22 calm down :) Jan 02 18:11:33 * lennert saw the movie 'Saw' recently.. ugh Jan 02 18:11:52 oh, the USB thingo, its a Cypress thingo setup as a high power DIO 9with relays) Jan 02 18:12:39 Hmm. I thought that all of the 'drivers' were uer space these days. Jan 02 18:12:40 beewoolie-afk: Will you happen to be in/near whistler sometime during the week of 1/14-1/21 ? Jan 02 18:12:50 I wish I were. Jan 02 18:12:53 What's going on? Jan 02 18:13:11 I was hoping to beg you to sign my key. :-) Jan 02 18:13:12 BTW, I live about 8 hours from there. Jan 02 18:13:21 Oh, my. Vacation? Jan 02 18:13:34 I could probably meet you in Vancouver. Jan 02 18:13:52 2005/06 Snowboard Expidetion part2 Jan 02 18:14:16 Ok... Next time then; I wont be making a long stop in vancouver. Jan 02 18:15:01 Darn! Jan 02 18:15:46 hello beewoolie Jan 02 18:15:50 Hey! Jan 02 18:15:59 I told them you like power tools. Jan 02 18:16:07 hello dollface Jan 02 18:16:09 it's true Jan 02 18:16:13 hello lennert Jan 02 18:16:23 or privet as the russians say Jan 02 18:16:28 privet! kak dela? Jan 02 18:16:35 nyet Jan 02 18:16:51 kak plocha? Jan 02 18:17:06 Power Tools Rule. Jan 02 18:17:08 CUT! Jan 02 18:17:10 GRIND Jan 02 18:17:10 the only russian I know is "one tea, please" Jan 02 18:17:14 hehe Jan 02 18:17:21 GRIND Jan 02 18:17:29 dyoung is kind of obsessed with power tools, it seems Jan 02 18:17:30 and, "i do not speak russian" Jan 02 18:17:31 My friends want to go in on a saws-all for dollface. Jan 02 18:17:41 hi dollface Jan 02 18:17:47 hi kaosox Jan 02 18:18:04 we got some of your weather down here. Jan 02 18:18:06 ka6sox: I've got the parts for the ep1220 board on order. Jan 02 18:18:10 dollface: i don't speak russian either, really.. Jan 02 18:18:20 ka6sox: Flooding again? Jan 02 18:18:21 beewoolie-afk, cool. Jan 02 18:18:24 dollface: just what i pick up here Jan 02 18:18:29 beewoolie-afk, a little Jan 02 18:18:36 but the creek is okay for now. Jan 02 18:18:43 I remember that last year was a doozie Jan 02 18:18:46 this came in from the wind. Jan 02 18:18:48 lennert: russian is tricky and the accent is important Jan 02 18:18:50 oohyeah. Jan 02 18:19:15 dollface: yeah, and baltic state russian is nothing like 'real' russian Jan 02 18:19:28 dollface: so i'm learning it all wrong, really :-/ Jan 02 18:20:10 dollface: so how come you know russian? Jan 02 18:20:49 Lennert: she could tell you but then she would have to kill you ;) Jan 02 18:20:55 ah Jan 02 18:20:58 work for kgb, eh Jan 02 18:21:09 Hey! this isn't a secue channel. Jan 02 18:21:20 kamaradski Jan 02 18:21:25 beewoolie-afk: whoops! Jan 02 18:21:51 dial-up boots me off the network sometimes. Jan 02 18:22:34 whenever you speak about the CCCP, i bet Jan 02 18:22:35 [g2]: I'm curious, why is your screen name [g2]? Jan 02 18:22:56 maybe it is the CCCP that boots me off teh computer. Jan 02 18:22:58 Uh, oh. Jan 02 18:23:09 <[g2]> dollface I came late to IRC Jan 02 18:23:16 it's the secret police spying on my apartment Jan 02 18:23:19 <[g2]> all the short names were long gone Jan 02 18:23:38 but i don't understand the brackets Jan 02 18:23:40 dollface: if you speak russian, you just _have_ to be a spy Jan 02 18:23:41 <[g2]> [mbm] the leader of openwrt Jan 02 18:23:50 <[g2]> used brakets Jan 02 18:23:59 or a member of the russian mafia Jan 02 18:24:03 <[g2]> so I snagged them for a short name Jan 02 18:24:13 ah, i feel in the loop now. Jan 02 18:24:24 <[g2]> my old nick was gentoo_newb1e Jan 02 18:24:32 beewoolie named me. Jan 02 18:24:41 <[g2]> heh Jan 02 18:25:14 that also explains why you go under the hacker alias 'dollface' Jan 02 18:25:43 yeah, russian hackers and I are pals. extorting credit card numbers and the like Jan 02 18:26:05 yeah Jan 02 18:26:07 but I'm really fond of the old ladies selling crazy things on the black market Jan 02 18:26:13 sounds like something for 'dollface' Jan 02 18:26:27 especially cigarettes from poland. very strange. Jan 02 18:26:39 such a cute name.. simply _has_ to be a relentless criminal Jan 02 18:26:55 oh, i really shouldn't talk about it now Jan 02 18:27:14 as the time i spent inside was long Jan 02 18:27:53 * lennert bows to your eliteness Jan 02 18:28:01 All Spies use Dialup? Jan 02 18:28:09 dyoung-away: certainly Jan 02 18:28:26 lennert: you're reply is quite funny Jan 02 18:28:29 THIS ISN"T A SECURE CHANNEL Jan 02 18:28:44 uh, oh. all caps means that I'm in trouble Jan 02 18:29:37 beewoolie-afk: don't worry -- everyone currently on this channel is on our list, comrade Jan 02 18:29:38 * beewoolie-afk snorts Jan 02 18:30:14 We're already Blacklisted by the Guv-Mint? (And Italian Customs...) ? Jan 02 18:30:45 well.. i've been critical about the current US gubmint on irc a couple of times, so that probably means that if i ever go to the us i'm in trouble :) Jan 02 18:31:36 so i have a question about my most recent JTAG Jan 02 18:32:09 share your question with us, comrade dollface_ Jan 02 18:32:15 and my new bootloader too Jan 02 18:33:15 you run linux on your new power drill, eh? Jan 02 18:33:21 ok, so i told a small tale... i really only look at jtag's at beewoolie's house Jan 02 18:33:23 good choice Jan 02 18:33:29 oh :-/ Jan 02 18:33:40 sorry, i got your hopes up Jan 02 18:33:45 but i don Jan 02 18:34:00 't really know enough about JTAG to ask a good question Jan 02 18:34:06 hehe Jan 02 18:34:09 well Jan 02 18:34:17 we don't _have_ to talk about jtag Jan 02 18:34:27 but it's a jtag venue Jan 02 18:34:32 we usually dont talk about JTAG. :-) Jan 02 18:34:42 what do you talk about usually? Jan 02 18:34:48 "Other crap" Jan 02 18:34:56 like linux? Jan 02 18:34:58 anything that interests us Jan 02 18:35:04 like power tools Jan 02 18:35:07 well.. not really :) Jan 02 18:35:24 do you share soup receipes? Jan 02 18:35:33 or maybe talk about current events? Jan 02 18:35:47 or maybe talk about music or books? Jan 02 18:35:51 there's so much Jan 02 18:36:06 Hmm, thats good stuff. Jan 02 18:36:16 way better than jtag Jan 02 18:36:23 hehe Jan 02 18:36:28 hmmm Jan 02 18:36:34 Whats a book? Jan 02 18:36:43 sorry lennert i hope i didn't make you mad Jan 02 18:36:56 i guess "Linear Circuit Analysis - Time Domain, Phasor, and Laplace Transform Approaches" doesn't qualify :-* Jan 02 18:37:07 a book is magical. it tells stories and gives ideas and sometimesthere are pictures too Jan 02 18:37:13 i don't think i have anything that qualifies Jan 02 18:37:22 dollface_: naah, don't worry :) Jan 02 18:37:46 oh yes, "linear circuit analysis" sounds good Jan 02 18:37:55 soup recipes.. that sounds like stuff the other half is interested in Jan 02 18:37:55 a little light reading Jan 02 18:38:07 i should get her on irc one day Jan 02 18:38:10 Mmmmm Sooooup.... Jan 02 18:38:15 even the russians are interested in soup Jan 02 18:38:21 dollface_: yeah, very light, especially since it's only linear stuff anyway :) Jan 02 18:38:25 well Jan 02 18:38:28 she is russian, so.. Jan 02 18:38:43 SHES A SPY! Jan 02 18:38:49 No! Jan 02 18:39:07 a spy for the russian minority in lithuania, maybe :) Jan 02 18:39:42 Back to laplace transformations... Jan 02 18:39:54 what is a laplace transformation? Jan 02 18:40:09 dollface_: you take soup and add french herbs Jan 02 18:40:16 dollface_: tada, laplace soup! Jan 02 18:40:25 I, um, it's the math we used as freshmen in EE school. Jan 02 18:40:35 very funny but what's really the answer? Jan 02 18:41:04 ah. the math i never took. Jan 02 18:41:25 It was probably taught in the 'next' class you were planning to take. Jan 02 18:41:36 unlikely Jan 02 18:41:51 well Jan 02 18:41:55 you know integrals? Jan 02 18:42:01 vaguely Jan 02 18:43:40 gentlemen: (i assume) lovely chatting with you all. best of luck with the laplace transformations Jan 02 18:43:44 http://www.efunda.com/math/laplace_transform/index.cfm Jan 02 18:44:02 Bye dollface_ Jan 02 18:44:09 laplace transform is an integral with e^-st Jan 02 18:44:15 bye beewoolie Jan 02 18:44:22 _why_ you'd do it that way is a very boring story Jan 02 18:44:24 Right. It's a way to simplify hard problems. Jan 02 18:44:31 bye lennert and dyoung and [g2] Jan 02 18:44:33 beewoolie-afk: that sounds about right Jan 02 18:44:36 bye dollface_! Jan 02 18:45:05 bye dollface_ Jan 02 18:45:58 and sorry, kaosox, i almost forgot you were online. goodbye! Jan 02 18:46:19 bye bye! Jan 02 18:46:36 ciao Jan 02 18:48:30 beewoolie-afk: the link is good Jan 02 18:55:35 I hope that finally the S3e boards are going to be available. Jan 02 18:55:47 they are the real solution to this. Jan 02 18:55:57 we have been dancing around it for months. Jan 02 18:56:44 well Jan 02 18:56:51 I like real solutions. Jan 02 18:56:52 i'm not really doing much cause i know vmaster has some stuff Jan 02 18:57:08 then again, i haven't checked out his stuff Jan 02 18:57:18 so things aren't moving from my side.. :-/ Jan 02 19:20:24 can anybody see the real status of the S3e Board? Jan 02 19:20:48 <[g2]> doesn't Xilinx sell the S3e Jan 02 19:20:54 who manufacture it? not digilent, right? Jan 02 19:21:01 <[g2]> yeah digilent Jan 02 19:21:16 <[g2]> well I know they do the S3 Jan 02 19:21:34 <[g2]> but maybe it's someone else Jan 02 19:21:40 big fat button on www.xilinx.com to the s3e starter kit page Jan 02 19:21:53 "available 4q05!" Jan 02 19:22:28 but it doesn't let me buy it Jan 02 19:22:35 "Notify me when available" Jan 02 19:24:16 digilent said that they were doing it. Jan 02 19:24:37 i don't see it on digilentinc.com though Jan 02 19:24:52 <[g2]> I'll try to remember to call them tomorrow Jan 02 19:24:53 I'm going to call digilent tommorrow. Jan 02 19:24:59 hehe Jan 02 19:25:03 great minds think alike ;) Jan 02 19:25:06 I need to ask them about contract manuf. Jan 02 19:25:24 <[g2]> for the JTAG ? Jan 02 19:25:34 something else Jan 02 19:25:35 <[g2]> they do contract manu Jan 02 19:25:43 avnet lists the HW-SPAR3E-DK as 5 weeks lead time, NCNR, Backorder Jan 02 19:26:16 I'm hoping to find out the definative word tommorrow. Jan 02 19:26:28 maybe you can get one or two if you call them Jan 02 19:26:32 ya Jan 02 19:26:34 I hope! Jan 02 19:26:38 :) Jan 02 19:26:59 <[g2]> lennert you've got that V2-pro right ? Jan 02 19:27:07 [g2]: yeah, right next to me Jan 02 20:02:35 I think that I must go out for a bit but when I get back I'll poke around in some VHDL tonight and see what is happening. Jan 02 20:03:24 i just received a logwatch email Jan 02 20:03:33 that usually means it's time to go to bed Jan 02 20:04:04 <[g2]> sgmiller it's a FPGA pro :) Jan 02 20:04:21 hehe Jan 02 20:05:37 nite Lennert Jan 02 20:05:55 g'nite, talk to you again in a few hours Jan 02 20:07:32 <[g2]> lennert nite... sweet dreams of FPGA, kernels etc... Jan 02 20:07:37 <[g2]> JTAG Jan 02 20:09:05 he has better things to dream about! Jan 02 20:28:07 hey there Jan 02 20:29:36 Howdy Jan 02 20:30:31 is anyone still working on JTAG controllers? Jan 02 20:35:05 ep1220 designed a board to use the 2232 USB chip. Jan 02 20:35:10 I've got the parts on order. Jan 02 20:35:40 We're still tossing around the idea of building something more sophisticated that uses a FPGA for higher speed. Jan 02 20:36:00 I started coding a JTAG controller in Verilog Jan 02 20:36:35 How's that coming? Jan 02 20:48:22 I have something that accepts an instruction word specifying the target state and then outputs TCK/TMS to get a TAP to that state Jan 02 20:48:25 if you said anything after that line, I missed it Jan 02 20:48:29 Next is the actual shifting :-) Jan 02 20:48:32 But I'm also pondering what bus it should be attached to, because I would like to look at the bus operation to guide my implementation of data transport Jan 02 20:48:38 I'm just a beginner in logic :-) Jan 02 20:48:45 I did synthesize an openrisc system before, so maybe I go with that **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 03 02:59:59 2006