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Aug 20 17:53:51 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: hey hey
Aug 20 17:53:55 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: long time no see
Aug 20 17:54:04 <beewoolie-afk> prpplague: yo
Aug 20 17:54:14 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: whats cookin?
Aug 20 17:54:21 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: still doing any work for sharp?
Aug 20 17:54:23 <beewoolie-afk> Been working on the slug boot process.
Aug 20 17:54:26 <beewoolie-afk> Yep.
Aug 20 17:55:47 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: has anyone said why there are no lh79524/25 reference designs available?
Aug 20 17:55:59 <beewoolie-afk> LPD has one.
Aug 20 17:56:26 <beewoolie-afk> There is no 525 design, but it is substantially similar.
Aug 20 17:56:43 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: i meant, why sharp doesn't post a reference design
Aug 20 17:56:49 <beewoolie-afk> Don't know.
Aug 20 17:56:54 <beewoolie-afk> I can ask.
Aug 20 17:57:25 <prpplague> yea if you get a chance, that fact is really killing anyones idea of using the lh79524
Aug 20 17:58:21 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: suppose to have some time next week to psuh some patches to you for apex
Aug 20 18:01:01 <beewoolie-afk> Sure.
Aug 20 18:01:13 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: http://www.amltd.com/m5900.asp
Aug 20 18:01:13 <beewoolie-afk> I've been working on getting git repos on line.  I've put up the BSP already.
Aug 20 18:01:22 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: first of the devices booting with apex
Aug 20 18:01:33 * prpplague isn't a git fan
Aug 20 18:01:45 <prpplague> but anything is better than nothing
Aug 20 18:01:47 <beewoolie-afk> Too bad.  I like it a lot.
Aug 20 18:01:57 <beewoolie-afk> It's really easy for sharing development.
Aug 20 18:02:12 <beewoolie-afk> Is the AML part the one you've been designing/building?
Aug 20 18:03:21 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: one of 6
Aug 20 18:03:30 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: next release will be in about 45 days
Aug 20 18:03:36 <beewoolie-afk> Nice.
Aug 20 18:03:39 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: and then one about every 60 days 
Aug 20 18:03:49 <beewoolie-afk> Wow.  That's a release schedule.
Aug 20 18:04:47 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: well 90% of all the work for the new devices is complete, its just the finalizing of most of it prior to the release
Aug 20 18:05:16 <beewoolie-afk> Does it run GNU/Linux?
Aug 20 18:05:39 <prpplague> yea
Aug 20 18:05:49 <beewoolie-afk> Actually, I have another interesting question.
Aug 20 18:05:58 <beewoolie-afk> How did you handle firmware upgrade
Aug 20 18:05:59 <beewoolie-afk> ?
Aug 20 18:06:23 <beewoolie-afk> I'm working on a product where this has come up.  I've found a reasonable solution, but I curious how you've tackled it.
Aug 20 18:06:23 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: we have dual kernel/rootfs 
Aug 20 18:06:41 <beewoolie-afk> Are they identical?
Aug 20 18:06:44 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: the backup kernel/rootfs is very small and is really there to do firmware upgrades
Aug 20 18:06:58 <beewoolie-afk> Cool.  That's my plan as well.
Aug 20 18:07:01 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: basically the same kernel
Aug 20 18:07:14 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: we have several different hooks for the actual method
Aug 20 18:07:18 <beewoolie-afk> It could be older if the firmware were upgraded to add new drivers, for example.
Aug 20 18:07:28 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: one method is holding down three buttons on the keypad during power on
Aug 20 18:07:43 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: apex reads that, and boots the backup kernel/rootfs
Aug 20 18:07:49 <beewoolie-afk> sure.  The issue was that I'd like to use APEX for upgrades, but it doesn't support USB device mode.
Aug 20 18:07:57 <beewoolie-afk> Yep.
Aug 20 18:07:59 <beewoolie-afk> I remember.
Aug 20 18:08:06 <beewoolie-afk> Did you just hack APEX for that?
Aug 20 18:08:49 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: yea, i added a couple of new commands
Aug 20 18:09:06 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: cmd-chkopts and cmd-chkkbd
Aug 20 18:09:09 <beewoolie-afk> Cool.  Looks like it will need to be a standard feature.
Aug 20 18:09:15 <beewoolie-afk> Mhmm.
Aug 20 18:09:29 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: chkkbd looks for specific key sequences
Aug 20 18:09:34 <beewoolie-afk> Gotta leave for a bit.  Breakfast time.
Aug 20 18:09:42 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: and chkopts checks the boot options
Aug 20 18:09:48 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: np later
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