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Dec 19 04:17:08 * flyback bbl, sick again
Dec 19 06:00:44 * flyback goodnight all
Dec 19 19:26:11 <dirk2> prpplague: ping
Dec 19 19:26:22 <prpplague> dirk2: pong
Dec 19 19:26:27 <prpplague> dirk2: whats cookin?
Dec 19 19:27:04 <dirk2> prpplague: do you have a picture/photo how to connect flyswatter, JTAG adapter and Beagle?
Dec 19 19:27:30 <dirk2> prpplague: Looking at the JTAG adapter schematic it seems to me I did it the wrong way...
Dec 19 19:27:45 <prpplague> dirk2: yea iirc there is one on the tincantools main page, one sec
Dec 19 19:29:18 <dirk2> prpplague: ah, there is a little one at http://tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16134&cat=251&page=1
Dec 19 19:29:30 <prpplague> http://www.tincantools.com/images/D/Fly%2BBeagle-800x391.JPG?1229714946602
Dec 19 19:31:10 <dirk2> prpplague: Thanks! Arrgh, I connected the JTAG adapter at beagle board, not at Flyswatter :((
Dec 19 19:31:23 <prpplague> dirk2: ahh
Dec 19 19:32:08 <prpplague> dirk2: we rushed those out the door, otherwise we would have made a better attempt at making it keyed and such
Dec 19 19:32:18 <dirk2> prpplague: And it was unclear which direction the JTAG adapter has to be used at Flyswatter. 
Dec 19 19:32:38 <prpplague> dirk2: yea
Dec 19 19:32:59 <prpplague> dirk2: i'll make a note to the boss to update the page with some better picks
Dec 19 19:33:08 <prpplague> pics
Dec 19 19:33:12 <dirk2> prpplague: And seems I have to re-set the EMU0/1 jumpers to 0-1
Dec 19 19:33:41 <dirk2> prpplague: Many thanks, this picture helps a lot! Will try again, hopefully nothing is broken...
Dec 19 19:33:44 <prpplague> dirk2: yea
Dec 19 19:33:53 <prpplague> dirk2: nothing should be broken
Dec 19 19:34:00 <prpplague> dirk2: jtag is pretty tolerant
Dec 19 19:34:26 <dirk2> prpplague: The OpenOCD output was so totally dead, it could be only HW (user) issue ;) thanks
Dec 19 19:34:48 <prpplague> dirk2: a side note, you are always welcome to join #edev to discuss development of all kinds of embedded stuff, including tincantools hardware
Dec 19 19:35:42 <dirk2> k. will do so. I was more or less sure to meet you here ;)
Dec 19 19:36:06 <prpplague> yea, i hang here alot
Dec 19 19:36:19 <prpplague> dirk2: did you get a copy of the ICEPick doc?
Dec 19 19:37:32 <dirk2> prpplague: No, not yet. I think Rick is waiting for it, too. But Jason seems to be *really* busy. I asked him already several times...
Dec 19 19:38:21 <prpplague> dirk2: ok, i'll forward you guys a copy and send notification to jason
Dec 19 19:38:40 <dirk2> prpplague: This would be really GREAT!
Dec 19 19:46:23 <prpplague> dirk2: sent
Dec 19 19:48:38 <prpplague> dirk2: EMU0 and EMU1 need to pulled high with the jumpers on the adapter board, i don't recall what if that is 1-2 or 2-3 right off the top of my head, i don't have my beagle stuff handy
Dec 19 19:48:56 <dirk2> prpplague: got it! thanks! Will read & play with OpenOCD now.
Dec 19 19:49:23 <dirk2> prpplague: Will check EMU0/1, too. bbl
Dec 19 19:49:29 <prpplague> good deal, and just as a side note, anyone working with the dm355 davinci stuff can test the icepick jrc stuff as well
Dec 19 22:37:52 <flyback> prpplague, 
Dec 19 22:37:59 <flyback> know if it's possible to program a jtag with a jtag
Dec 19 22:38:33 <prpplague> flyback: sorry didn't follow that
Dec 19 22:38:50 <flyback> if say I had a amd elan system
Dec 19 22:38:52 <flyback> has a jtag port
Dec 19 22:39:00 <flyback> could I somehow use it to program another jtag device
Dec 19 22:39:09 <flyback> by using some kinda crossover cable etc
Dec 19 22:39:25 <flyback> and a buffer chip of course :P
Dec 19 22:42:15 * flyback drops a pin
Dec 19 22:46:02 <roxfan> you could take some gpios on that board and uses them as jtag pins, but you'd need to write something to drive them
Dec 19 22:46:34 <flyback> I already been thinking about that
Dec 19 22:46:44 <flyback> but I wondered if reusing the jtag pins would be better
Dec 19 22:46:57 <flyback> it has 8 gpio I think the wiggler only needs 4 or 5
Dec 19 22:47:18 <roxfan> i'm not sure what you mean by "reusing jtag pins"
Dec 19 22:47:23 <flyback> only 4 are concentric? (1234)
Dec 19 22:47:29 <flyback> it has a jtag interface
Dec 19 22:47:31 <flyback> for programming it
Dec 19 22:47:38 <roxfan> yes
Dec 19 22:47:39 <flyback> couldn't that be used to program something else
Dec 19 22:47:52 <roxfan> i don't really see how
Dec 19 22:48:01 * flyback has 3 net4501's he paid $10 each for and possibly getting 3 more (2 need jtag one has issues)
Dec 19 22:48:16 <flyback> why aren't they just like any other i/o pin in a ay
Dec 19 22:48:31 <roxfan> maybe they are, but you can just swap input for output and expect it to work
Dec 19 22:48:45 <flyback> I know you would need code
Dec 19 22:49:56 <roxfan> well, then it doesn't really matter if you reuse the jtag pins or use some other free gpios
Dec 19 22:50:20 <flyback> well jtag pins might be better at slew? rate
Dec 19 22:50:26 <flyback> cause that's what they are optmized for
Dec 19 22:51:21 <roxfan> possible, but i kinda doubt it...
Dec 19 22:55:56 <flyback> ok
Dec 20 01:13:22 <flyback> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1243112/magnet_falling_through_a_copper_pipe/
Dec 20 02:03:48 * flyback bbl
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