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Dec 08 20:04:11 <dirtycookie1> hello, im new in the embedded world and got myself an avr 8bit controller set and wanted to know a little about the jtag interface, maybe someone can tell me a little about it. what i wanna know in specific is that i have looked at the msp430, stm, and avr they all have jtags. are they all the same? is there for open source development one programmer that can be used for all of them mentioned above? 
Dec 08 20:16:41 <dirtycookie1> sry had do restart the machine
Dec 08 20:17:24 <roxfan> the physical/logical protocol is more or less the same
Dec 08 20:17:40 <roxfan> but the core-specific stuff differs a lot
Dec 08 20:20:23 <dirtycookie1> so basically i have buy another adapter(HW) when buying controllers from different vendors?
Dec 08 21:03:15 <karlp> no, you can normally use the same hardware, but you often need different software to drive it, 
Dec 08 21:09:18 <roxfan> he left
Dec 08 21:22:35 <karlp> bleh, utter failure at reading on my part
Dec 08 21:22:38 <karlp> the line above even.
Dec 08 21:22:44 <karlp> time for dinner then
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