**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 14 02:59:57 2008 Nov 14 03:35:02 moo Nov 14 03:35:52 quack? Nov 14 03:42:28 burrp Nov 14 03:43:39 miaw Nov 14 03:45:05 zoo-time Nov 14 03:45:48 haha Nov 14 03:46:57 Ainulindale: I think the And() trigger you told doesn't work Nov 14 03:48:23 so.. is pasting 10 lines here ok? =3 Nov 14 03:49:33 pastebin Nov 14 03:49:51 http://rafb.net/p/4JiM7F35.html Nov 14 03:51:45 now that I think about it, I should be able to hold the And all together Nov 14 03:51:50 *drop Nov 14 04:26:42 I just found out that the FSO distribution does not contain the library libpopt.so.0, which is contained in the rootfs images for 2007.2 and 2008.x distributions. I maintain an application which requires that library. Is there an apt-get command which would load that library? I don't have FSO installed on either of my OM phones, so it's not easy for me to check. Nov 14 04:29:27 Ken_Young: try `opkg install libpopt01` Nov 14 04:29:40 oops Nov 14 04:29:46 `opkg install libpopt0` Nov 14 04:30:28 gurugentoo, Oh, I thought FSO did not use opkg, but rather apt-get. Can both be used on FSO? Nov 14 04:30:51 AFAIK apt-get is debian only Nov 14 04:31:46 I just checked and there's no apt on the default image Nov 14 04:31:53 gurugentoo, Well, I'm so confused byall the distributions that I thought FSO was built on the debian distribution. SO FSO is built on OE too? Nov 14 04:32:11 methinks so Nov 14 04:32:36 it's just kind of the "new" way Nov 14 04:33:23 gurugentoo, Now that I think about it, you must be right. If it were built on Debian, there's no way it wouldn't have libpopt, because that's a very standard library. THanks! Nov 14 07:15:45 Ainulindale, mrmoku end\or soken tell you about ophonekitd compilation error? Nov 14 08:22:30 Good morning! Nov 14 08:22:40 I'm having problems in compiling Openmoko image Nov 14 08:22:50 This is my output log: http://www.pastebin.ca/1255978 Nov 14 08:22:59 Can somebody help me? Nov 14 08:23:40 hi SteBud86 do you apply raster patches? Nov 14 08:23:56 http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/oe/patches/ Nov 14 08:23:58 No, I don't Nov 14 08:24:09 are you compiling FSO or SHR or what else? Nov 14 08:25:41 i'm compiling SHR and after I apply that patches illume compile fine but I encounter some other problems Nov 14 08:32:58 Sorry, I don't know...I'm using MokoMakefile following the instructions on the wiki: Nov 14 08:33:00 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakeFile#Building_Openmoko_with_MokoMakefile Nov 14 08:37:38 SteBud86, try the SHR instructions: Nov 14 08:37:41 http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Bulding%20SHR Nov 14 08:38:08 doesn't build completely for me atm, but it definately chould Nov 14 08:38:12 *should* Nov 14 08:43:48 hi soken! I encounter problem with webkit-gtk, ophonekitd, openmoko-terminal2 Nov 14 08:44:35 I have problems with webkit-gtk and ophonekitd, don't know about openmoko-terminal2 Nov 14 08:44:38 and now i'm still compiling, i only comment out that packages that don't compile fine in shr-lite-image.bb Nov 14 08:45:03 after ophonekit block your compilation what do you do? Nov 14 08:46:01 I give up :) Nov 14 08:46:22 or go to bed :) Nov 14 08:49:11 Ok, thank you for help! Nov 14 08:51:00 furester, did you check your ophonekitd error? Nov 14 08:51:22 for me, it can't find various .d files that shouldn't even be there Nov 14 08:51:33 yes, is the same error Nov 14 08:52:13 but i don't know bitbake as well as I could manage to find do_compile function and understand how to correct this error Nov 14 08:52:32 in src dir there are only .c and .h files, no .d Nov 14 08:53:42 yeah, I think it's some make issue, though I don't know bitbake that well either Nov 14 08:54:12 you know who could help? Nov 14 08:54:33 i think mrmoku is in the same situation Nov 14 08:55:18 no, I don't know Nov 14 08:55:37 webkit isn't a real problem (i want to give a chance to fennec), but terminal and ophonekitd could be real problem :) Nov 14 08:56:48 did you solve the webkit issue? Nov 14 08:57:11 oops sorry read incorrectly... Nov 14 08:58:46 got to go Nov 14 08:58:50 bbl Nov 14 09:02:49 since bugs.openmoko.org does not support regular expressions or limiting search to only open bugs i wrote a proof of concept search program: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=wifi%0D%0Areset -- any comments? Nov 14 09:07:40 hey guys Nov 14 09:07:54 does the image compile now using the wiki? :D Nov 14 09:24:37 good morning Nov 14 09:29:27 rebelThor, we have problems compiling webkit-gtk, ophonekitd and terminal2 Nov 14 09:42:02 *yawn* good morning Nov 14 09:48:57 morning Nov 14 09:54:40 mickey|zzZZzz: are you up? Nov 14 10:01:07 roh: ping Nov 14 10:01:41 roh: How should we configure trac so that reporters can't change the milestone? Nov 14 10:05:43 Damn Nov 14 10:05:49 I know why I wasn't able to connect Nov 14 10:05:51 I borked my zones Nov 14 10:05:58 Dumb me Nov 14 10:06:33 furester? Nov 14 10:06:33 alphaone, are you the trac admin of freesmartphone? Nov 14 10:06:39 or is mickey? Nov 14 10:06:53 methril: I have admin access, yes Nov 14 10:06:56 Ainulindale, pong Nov 14 10:07:03 furester: Reading your log as of now Nov 14 10:07:12 how i could login? i'm not able to doit, neither register Nov 14 10:07:24 furester: last error you had results from lack of patches Nov 14 10:07:25 i've a ticket to report :D Nov 14 10:07:32 furester: Which are on the wiki Nov 14 10:08:00 which log? Nov 14 10:08:03 not mine Nov 14 10:08:20 Oh sorry Nov 14 10:08:23 Misread there Nov 14 10:08:25 Well, anyway Nov 14 10:08:28 Here to see yours :-) Nov 14 10:11:28 ok, it'll come Nov 14 10:12:22 http://pastebin.com/d445ab4a7 Nov 14 10:12:31 this one is the error from console Nov 14 10:13:13 http://pastebin.com/m4023fcc3 this one the log-file Nov 14 10:13:23 Ainulindale: What hoops did you need to jump through to enable registration on trac? Nov 14 10:15:26 I installed the account manager plugin Nov 14 10:16:08 furester: looks as if the autotools failed Nov 14 10:16:52 the trac said: "A username and password are being requested by http://trac.freesmartphone.org. The site says: "freesmartphone.org"" Nov 14 10:17:14 yeah, it try to comile an immaginary .d file while in src therre are only .c or .h Nov 14 10:17:58 furester: Heh, quickdev made some changes Nov 14 10:18:01 He switched to git Nov 14 10:18:04 It seems Nov 14 10:18:18 Or did he? Nov 14 10:18:32 furester: try first to bibtake ophonekitd -c clean Nov 14 10:18:53 then rm tmp/stamps/ophonekitd* Nov 14 10:18:57 then svn up ../shr Nov 14 10:19:02 then bitbake ophonekitd again Nov 14 10:20:34 frameworkd_git do_fetch failed Nov 14 10:20:46 some missing package in the mirrors Nov 14 10:21:13 furester: currently trying here Nov 14 10:22:13 (hmpf, qemu needs to be compiled) Nov 14 10:23:14 furester: be back in some minutes Nov 14 10:24:16 me too .. currently tying but in a few minutes i have to go out Nov 14 10:24:27 i'll be back in a couple of hours Nov 14 10:24:44 in the meantime my pc still try to compile Nov 14 10:33:35 $ svn up ../shr Nov 14 10:33:35 Alla revisione 487. Nov 14 10:33:35 $ Nov 14 10:33:40 no update for me now Nov 14 10:34:29 Ok then Nov 14 10:34:41 Still wasn't able to compile ophonekitd (qemu-native going on) Nov 14 10:34:56 furester: retry bitbake ophonekitd then Nov 14 10:43:33 furester: Configuring Nov 14 10:44:38 furester: it compiled without any kind of problem Nov 14 10:48:31 furester: Oh and midori failing is normal Nov 14 10:48:34 (to compile) Nov 14 10:49:31 furester: if you can try fennec Nov 14 10:49:45 you want Nov 14 10:51:54 do you guys know if there's a fennec ipk somewhere? :) Nov 14 10:52:22 Will see if fennec has a bb recipe Nov 14 10:53:15 Ainulindale: yes Nov 14 10:53:22 fennec has a bb recipe Nov 14 10:55:42 having a bb recipe == being able to build an ipk ? Nov 14 10:56:44 rebelThor: uhm... mmm... yes Nov 14 11:05:12 anyone knows how vagalume knows where to search for it's button icons? Nov 14 11:30:47 Hey Nov 14 11:30:56 Hi there Nov 14 11:32:31 * mrmoku thinks 'no wonder we suck at pisa studies, if school finishes that early' ;) Nov 14 11:32:46 pisa? Nov 14 11:33:13 not the italian town - studies about quality of schools Nov 14 11:33:21 ah ok :D Nov 14 11:38:39 quickdev: giving image building another try (975/5790)... Maybe one day I will be able to do something useful... Nov 14 11:38:54 mrmoku, what was your last problem? Nov 14 11:40:06 hmm, that it takes too long :-) I started it on a computer which is in the same room where I sleep Nov 14 11:40:21 so I stopped it - know I'm trying on my server Nov 14 11:40:37 -k Nov 14 11:45:12 * rebelThor is debugging gtk code to see why vagalume won't load the damn button icons :) Nov 14 11:47:06 cool Nov 14 11:47:10 would love to see that fixed Nov 14 11:51:29 :) Nov 14 11:51:41 yeah, I'd like that too Nov 14 11:52:19 mickey|meeting, have you already talked to abraxa? Nov 14 11:52:33 yes, how is going the meeting? Nov 14 11:53:02 ( a meeting pretty long, 24 hours :o ) Nov 14 11:57:19 quickdev: no, still waiting for him to come back to live Nov 14 12:07:27 quickdev: should i "trac" the frameworkd and ophoned log i get when i start the phone, e crashes and no sim dialog shows up? Nov 14 12:07:30 new bug? Nov 14 12:08:50 also: i don't get a fix if i just start tangogps and wait Nov 14 12:10:37 mickey|meeting i'm trying to sing-in into the trac system is that possible? Nov 14 12:32:24 methril: atm. accounts are created on-demand. send me a login/password combo and i'll create an account for you Nov 14 12:32:44 i'll send to? Nov 14 12:32:49 e-mail PM? Nov 14 12:32:53 mickey@openmoko.org Nov 14 12:39:09 bumbl, gsm gadget in illume is enabled? Nov 14 12:39:46 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r44764beab8db 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/ (channel.py const.py): Nov 14 12:39:46 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Increase default timeout to 10 seconds Nov 14 12:39:46 freesmartphone.org: It seems that especially if the calypso is busy the default timeout of 5 Nov 14 12:39:46 freesmartphone.org: seconds wasn't enough and timeouts fired quite often with the response Nov 14 12:39:48 freesmartphone.org: arriving shortly after. Increasing the timeout will hopefully only catch Nov 14 12:39:50 freesmartphone.org: real timeouts. Nov 14 12:40:49 yes Nov 14 12:41:50 should i disable it? Nov 14 12:42:06 because it worked with this gadget on yesterday Nov 14 13:19:47 alphaone, mickey|zzZZzz ? Nov 14 13:19:52 quickdev: hey there Nov 14 13:20:00 Ainulindale: yeah? Nov 14 13:20:06 quickdev: I had a discussion with a fellow french man today we should discuss Nov 14 13:20:09 mickey|zzZZzz is currently on the way to the train Nov 14 13:20:13 alphaone: why don't we use network manager? Nov 14 13:20:16 (gnome) Nov 14 13:21:00 Ainulindale, back Nov 14 13:21:12 Ainulindale: We haven't decided on what to use and what not to use regarding networking yet Nov 14 13:21:21 Ainulindale: because NetworkManager sucks? Nov 14 13:21:26 * bumbl ducks and runs Nov 14 13:21:30 enlightenment has a wireless module Nov 14 13:21:34 bumbl: Does it suck more than mofi or any kind of other API? Nov 14 13:21:37 err Nov 14 13:21:37 UI Nov 14 13:21:42 but it is not as good as NM Nov 14 13:21:46 Ainulindale, what do discuss? network manager thing? Nov 14 13:21:48 bumbl, nm rules Nov 14 13:21:53 quickdev: first and foremost yes Nov 14 13:21:56 Ainulindale: Networkmanager has some weird requirements with regard to dbus agent, ... Nov 14 13:22:06 then ideas about a kind of frameworkd-ui package Nov 14 13:22:17 i.e. what we did on libframeworkd-phonegui Nov 14 13:22:23 But through dbus Nov 14 13:22:25 Ainulindale: my experience (Desktop) was that it often freezed, caused problems with X etc Nov 14 13:22:29 To simplify these "show contacts" issue Nov 14 13:22:37 bumbl: No problems here I fear Nov 14 13:22:46 Ainulindale, which "show contacts" issue? Nov 14 13:23:07 Ainulindale: what distribution and: stable or svn networkmanager Nov 14 13:23:10 quickdev: let's say you're using a software which would try to show contacts Nov 14 13:23:24 quickdev: how should we do that? Nov 14 13:23:28 Load a lfp library? Nov 14 13:23:33 because scm networkmanager works more or less, stable has loads of bugs Nov 14 13:23:42 How would we trigger the right window with the right library? Nov 14 13:24:02 bumbl: I'll try anyway :-) Nov 14 13:24:15 Ainulindale, I know what you mean....that problem was already considered in UMAF...there will be a library for it sooner or later Nov 14 13:24:28 I didn't follow the UMAF thing Nov 14 13:24:32 I should have Nov 14 13:24:41 have a look ;) Nov 14 13:24:45 at the wikip age Nov 14 13:24:48 *page Nov 14 13:24:55 Link please? Nov 14 13:25:59 http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/UMAF Nov 14 13:26:05 thanks Nov 14 13:27:12 quickdev: What's your mail addresS? Nov 14 13:55:42 Ainulindale i'm back home, daria.forty-two.fr is unreachable!? Nov 14 13:55:58 furester, we've got a git repository now Nov 14 13:56:07 http://shr.bearstech.com/git/ Nov 14 13:56:52 ok, i'll clone this! :) Nov 14 13:57:35 so the page in SHR wiki isn't up to date? Nov 14 13:58:23 furester, which page is it? Nov 14 13:58:33 furester, would you like to develop it? :) Nov 14 13:59:09 quickdev: did you update the bbclasses? Nov 14 13:59:16 not yet Nov 14 13:59:24 http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Bulding%20SHR Nov 14 13:59:41 Ainulindale, the shr makefile has to be updated, too Nov 14 14:00:21 quickdev, i can try to keep that page update Nov 14 14:00:43 but i have to be update myself too Nov 14 14:01:54 so building SHR now is gonna be completely different? :/ Nov 14 14:02:00 not completely Nov 14 14:02:02 but a bit, yes Nov 14 14:02:11 sigh, just as i was getting my head around the other way :p Nov 14 14:02:48 furester, give me some minutes Nov 14 14:03:02 rwhitby, I modify the shr makefile. Just for information ;) Nov 14 14:03:07 soken, we have to get MokoMakefile, then clone repo, then make setup\make update? Nov 14 14:05:12 sorry soken my TAB is too quicly for me! Nov 14 14:05:41 quickdev, all time you want, let me know when all is ok Nov 14 14:09:04 furester, after the switch to git is complete we would probably need to switch somehow. I don't know about MokoMakefile, or did you mean something else? Nov 14 14:09:35 http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile this one Nov 14 14:10:30 the one documented in SHR wiki Nov 14 14:12:44 ah, we'll use that, but it won't work until it has been adapted for git Nov 14 14:14:09 how could I checkout new git repo in my so called "SHR root"? Nov 14 14:20:02 git clone http://shr.bearstech.com/repos/shr-overlay.git Nov 14 14:21:44 i have to delete the old directory before? Nov 14 14:23:32 furester: I'm quite tired and I have lots of things to do for work here, so please ask quickdev :-) Nov 14 14:24:07 ok, no problem Nov 14 14:31:23 Ainulindale: Sorry if that mail came as a surprise. I probably should have talked to you about that before... Nov 14 14:31:49 I just though you were waiting for some time now for commit access and I wanted to get things rolling. Nov 14 14:32:06 alphaone: You did right, don't worry Nov 14 14:32:16 I almost mailed the list yesterday Nov 14 14:32:21 But I had work to do and forgot about it Nov 14 14:32:37 I just thought communicating myself should be a better introduction, hence my mail Nov 14 14:57:27 alphaone: did you fix the outgoing signal issue? Nov 14 15:06:18 guys, any tools that i can use to see what files an app is trying to open? Nov 14 15:06:54 rebelThor: strace Nov 14 15:07:09 thanks Nov 14 15:09:48 rebelThor: strace -o s -s4096 -f app && grep open\( s Nov 14 15:10:28 thanks lindi Nov 14 15:14:48 anyone knows the url to the git repo? Nov 14 15:15:11 http://shr.bearstech.com/repo/ Nov 14 15:16:13 * rebelThor is on the right track making the icons work in vagalume Nov 14 15:16:58 thanks furester Nov 14 15:18:30 Hey there Nov 14 15:18:49 shr is missing calls, a lot! It seems to be related to wifi-usage Nov 14 15:19:12 Ainulindale: I don't know Nov 14 15:19:55 mickeyterm does show "+CRING: VOICE", but It does neither ring nor vibrate. Nov 14 15:20:35 shr does not show missed calls too (could be related to the gsm gadget) Nov 14 15:20:37 * rebelThor has icons in vagalume :D Nov 14 15:20:56 What can I do to help debugging? Nov 14 15:21:24 guys, who can i talk to if some files are missing from the vagalume package? (someone who knows how to add them to the image or to the vaga package) Nov 14 15:21:27 The other End doesn't even notice, that something is wrong. It just seems like nobody is picking up the phone Nov 14 15:22:56 please add some bugs for your issues :) Nov 14 15:23:01 s/bugs/tickets/ Nov 14 15:23:55 quickdev, I will Nov 14 15:38:02 quickdev, Ainulindale: You're following oe-dev, right? Nov 14 15:38:07 the ml Nov 14 15:39:12 If not you probably should subscribe Nov 14 15:39:34 hi Nov 14 15:40:04 today there are new kernel's images for gta01, any new rootfs snapshot will be release today? Nov 14 15:42:06 hi mickey|ICE691 Nov 14 15:42:46 hi Nov 14 15:52:42 mickey|ICE691: so, I successfully re-flashed my u-boot and my neo still seems to work :-) Nov 14 15:53:04 pb__: congrats :) Nov 14 15:53:15 the debug board is underway btw. Nov 14 15:53:24 dunno how long a packet takes from GER to UK Nov 14 15:54:03 mickey|ICE691: ah great, thanks. Nov 14 15:54:13 usually a few days to a week, if it's normal post. Nov 14 15:54:56 yeah Nov 14 15:55:36 I'll let you know when it arrives, anyway. Nov 14 15:58:14 good Nov 14 16:07:32 alphaone: I will immediately Nov 14 16:07:56 Richy, bumbl Nov 14 16:08:08 There's no missed calls functionnality in SHR (yet) Nov 14 16:08:18 Ainulindale, yes? Nov 14 16:08:19 And I can't see why wifi usage would hamper the GSM Nov 14 16:09:12 It looked like it to me. (Everytime I proudly presented that wifi is working to someone, I stopped getting calls) Nov 14 16:09:56 Richy: That sounds pretty weird Nov 14 16:09:59 * sicu sets up wifi to test calls Nov 14 16:10:06 Richy: Please switch frameworkd to debug Nov 14 16:10:15 (/etc/frameworkd.conf => log_level = DEBUG) Nov 14 16:10:16 Then restart it Nov 14 16:10:22 Then killall ophonekitd; DISPLAY=":0" ophonekitd& Nov 14 16:10:27 Then retry ;-) Nov 14 16:10:39 If it still fails, please open a ticket on the trac Nov 14 16:10:52 is there a way to ssh into the neo over wifi? Nov 14 16:11:51 Err I don't know but I suppose so :-) Nov 14 16:11:57 ;) Nov 14 16:12:51 Richy Nov 14 16:12:54 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi#ssh_into_FR_over_WiFi Nov 14 16:13:11 sicu, Thank you Nov 14 16:14:46 hmmm, i seem to get no caller id on incoming calls lateley ... it only shows to boxes/symbols Nov 14 16:15:18 anyone else had this (on SHR) ? Nov 14 16:15:34 gonna try to reproduce with debugging Nov 14 16:15:34 sicu, caller id? Nov 14 16:15:45 sicu: I have that when caller his using the secret caller feature Nov 14 16:15:50 quickdev: the number of the person calling Nov 14 16:15:53 (I don't know how to say that in english) Nov 14 16:16:31 the number is oppressed Nov 14 16:16:34 Ainulindale: ah, that makes sense Nov 14 16:16:44 suppressed Nov 14 16:17:12 yes Nov 14 16:17:16 the number is oppressed Nov 14 16:17:21 freedom for the numbers! Nov 14 16:17:25 Oh by the way Nov 14 16:17:29 Be wary of ptitjes Nov 14 16:17:33 i've been calling from the internet (vyke), to test incoming calls, guess it sometimes uses oppressed numbers :p Nov 14 16:17:33 He's weird Nov 14 16:17:35 He has a beard Nov 14 16:17:37 He smokes Nov 14 16:17:42 And he's a OM enthusiast Nov 14 16:17:46 haha Nov 14 16:17:48 He's so like me it sounds weird Nov 14 16:18:04 Ainulindale: i take it you had a nice lunch today then ;) Nov 14 16:18:13 yep Nov 14 16:18:34 adn you recruited him to the SHR effort ? Nov 14 16:18:39 He recruited himself Nov 14 16:18:54 haha, as would you :p Nov 14 16:19:17 Ainulindale: or were you recruited perhaps? Nov 14 16:19:53 By myself ? no Nov 14 16:19:59 well, i'm off out to buy a pre-paid sim to check this caller-id thingy Nov 14 16:22:14 btw, i have no problems whatsoever making and receiving calls with wifi activated Nov 14 16:23:02 and on a side note, the Dillo-browser works very nicely on SHR Nov 14 16:23:13 sicu, will try it soon :) Nov 14 16:23:30 =] Nov 14 16:23:55 sicu: does Dillo has zoom in/out ?? Nov 14 16:26:05 ptitjes: unfortunately no, it is a very basic lightweight browser Nov 14 16:26:16 and not finger friendly Nov 14 16:26:17 arf Nov 14 16:27:05 how I could stop a call programmaticaly (shell) ? Nov 14 16:27:15 using mdbus or mickeyterm Nov 14 16:27:18 because the gui to release a call does not show up Nov 14 16:27:25 ogsmd.Call.ListCalls Nov 14 16:27:28 check the ID Nov 14 16:27:34 then ogsmd.Call.Release id Nov 14 16:27:40 (IIRC) Nov 14 16:27:41 OK Nov 14 16:28:05 ptitjes: Your dialer just stays up and continues to work, even while the call progresses? Nov 14 16:28:44 sicu: tried fennet ? Nov 14 16:29:12 mwester: yes Nov 14 16:29:24 rebelThor: fennec is next on my list of browsers to try Nov 14 16:29:37 mwester: I know, I know Nov 14 16:29:38 Don't kill me Nov 14 16:29:40 ptitjes: we need to complain to Ainulindale; I have the same problem. Nov 14 16:29:42 also I have no feedback the call is in progress (you know traditional dring feel) Nov 14 16:29:46 Yep. Nov 14 16:29:50 sicu: if you find an ipk, please let me know, i'm dying to try it Nov 14 16:29:56 Do you a GTA01 as well, then? Nov 14 16:30:01 ptitjes: this is the bug I was talking about Nov 14 16:30:07 frameworkd doesn't send an outgoing signal Nov 14 16:30:11 Hence we can't pick up the call Nov 14 16:30:13 okay this could be my first contribution Nov 14 16:30:23 And oeventsd can't pick it up either Nov 14 16:30:27 Anuindale: could you give some tracks ? Nov 14 16:30:28 So it won't set the correct audio profile Nov 14 16:30:33 ptitjes: yes Nov 14 16:30:35 git.freesmartphone.org Nov 14 16:30:39 Have a nice day ! :-) Nov 14 16:30:44 héhéhéhé Nov 14 16:30:49 :) Nov 14 16:30:52 framework.git Nov 14 16:31:02 Oh what the heck Nov 14 16:31:13 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=tree;f=framework/subsystems/ogsmd;h=bc047353c7fdb0d8d6a1031802db772a45c6722c;hb=HEAD Nov 14 16:31:43 Ainulindale, mwester has the problem that the call is not shown up? Why don't we implement the active signal? Nov 14 16:31:44 so, calls aren't missed immediately after activating wifi. However, the phone suspended. Calling again.. nothing happened. I hang up. Manually waking up the phone--> It starts ringing and vibrating, no way to stop it-- this continues until it goes into standby again.. und resumes when you wake the phone up Nov 14 16:31:58 quickdev: Because active is both for incoming and outgoing Nov 14 16:32:05 And we don't want to confuse things Nov 14 16:32:29 is incoming not sent, too? We could track if incoming was sent Nov 14 16:32:53 quickdev: incomming is sent. I can confirm Nov 14 16:33:00 the gui shows up Nov 14 16:33:12 Ainulindale, so we have a workaround? Nov 14 16:33:18 quickdev: no Nov 14 16:33:21 alphaone? Nov 14 16:33:42 Damn I don't know how to fix the bbclass Nov 14 16:33:52 Ainulindale: ? Nov 14 16:34:46 Ainulindale, where's the problem? Nov 14 16:34:54 alphaone: see? Nov 14 16:35:00 Outgoing signal comes now and then Nov 14 16:35:14 quickdev: well I can't seem to put in the right parameters Nov 14 16:35:17 As I told before I'm wasted Nov 14 16:36:23 arrgghh I hate python Nov 14 16:36:49 can someone tell how a DBus call looks like so that I can grep the code... plz Nov 14 16:36:59 ptitjes: you are not looking for a dbus call Nov 14 16:37:00 in python I meant Nov 14 16:37:12 You're looking for, well Nov 14 16:37:14 something else Nov 14 16:37:24 I would like to locate the signal sent when an incomming call occurs first Nov 14 16:37:32 Ainulindale: Could be connected to timeouts firing for some commands and the parser being confused.. Nov 14 16:37:40 alphaone: You're the expert :-) Nov 14 16:37:48 quickdev: SRC_URI = "${SHR_MIRROR}/shr.git;module=${PN};protocol=http" and SHR_MIRROR ?= "git://shr.bearstech.com/repos" Nov 14 16:37:51 to narrow the code and understand how this part works first Nov 14 16:38:03 git ls-remote http://shr.bearstech.com/repos/shr.git master failed with signal 1, output: Nov 14 16:38:51 deluxe@deluxe-desktop:/var/www/dt.dev$ git ls-remote http://shr.bearstech.com/repos/shr.git master Nov 14 16:38:52 Segmentation fault Nov 14 16:38:55 argh :) Nov 14 16:38:58 Ah see why I did that Nov 14 16:39:01 repo and not repos Nov 14 16:39:26 I'm not that wasted after all Nov 14 16:39:27 Just dumb Nov 14 16:39:38 ptitjes: I have no idea :-) Nov 14 16:40:06 well I can see this in call.py : Nov 14 16:40:15 111 def remoteAccept( self ): Nov 14 16:40:15 112 self._reason = ["remote accept"] Nov 14 16:40:15 113 self.updateStatus( "active" ) Nov 14 16:40:55 No idea again :-) Nov 14 16:42:57 ptitjes: by the way Nov 14 16:43:02 just packaged configobj for pynetworkmanager Nov 14 16:43:31 hahaaa! Nov 14 16:43:50 does this have a gui ? Nov 14 16:44:23 dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection ":1.11" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file Nov 14 16:44:24 is python code compiled ? (sorry for the dumb question - I do not know python) Nov 14 16:44:27 Hmpf Nov 14 16:44:46 I got the same at first on my desktop Nov 14 16:44:50 you can google for that Nov 14 16:45:06 Ainulindale, maybe you have to enable something in /etc/dbus/ Nov 14 16:45:07 I can't remember where I found stuff on that Nov 14 16:45:12 quickdev: I know Nov 14 16:45:15 i was looking for that Nov 14 16:45:39 quickdev: i just replied a fix to #73 (http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/73) Nov 14 16:45:43 is python code compiled or could I modify the python code directly on my freerunner ? Nov 14 16:45:55 ptitjes: it's "compiled" to an intermediary language Nov 14 16:45:58 If you modify the py Nov 14 16:46:01 it'll regenerate the pyo Nov 14 16:46:07 Usually python code comes with the .py file, so you can modify it. Nov 14 16:46:07 So you can modify it Nov 14 16:46:11 quickdev: and i can confirm that it later worked for one more SHR guy and at least two FSO guys Nov 14 16:47:39 sicu, great :) Nov 14 16:47:46 damn ptitjes Nov 14 16:47:47 dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "getDevices" with signature "" on interface "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" doesn't exist Nov 14 16:47:49 quickdev: not sure why it's happening in the first place though, that's your department :p ... perhaps a broken package or some missing dependancies *shrug* Nov 14 16:47:56 I'll look into that later Nov 14 16:48:02 yeah, might be the root of it ;) Nov 14 16:50:20 Ainulindale, it's reproducible, so qualifies as bug, doesn't it? Nov 14 16:51:49 heuu. what print function can I use in python... for debugging purposes ?? (dumb dumb dumb :)) Nov 14 16:52:30 does print "somestuff" will output to the log file ? Nov 14 16:53:05 ptitjes: print("foo") prints "foo" to stdout Nov 14 16:53:11 ptitjes: and a \n Nov 14 16:53:31 ptitjes: you might want to look for python logger Nov 14 16:55:00 lindi-: in the ogsmd/modems/abstract/call.py there are lots of print calls (e.g. << print "UNKNOWN RESPONSE = ", response >>) Nov 14 16:55:24 I was hoping this would go to the log Nov 14 16:55:29 Richy: what? Nov 14 16:55:46 ptitjes: it does Nov 14 16:55:58 Though you might want to put frameworkd in DEBUG Nov 14 16:56:02 (log_level = DEBUG) Nov 14 16:57:20 should I restart frameworkd to take the config change in account ? Nov 14 16:57:54 yep Nov 14 16:57:57 Ainulindale, Try the following. Turn on wifi. and in my case pidign, wait for the neo to suspend. Call your neo: Nothing happens. Wake your neo up by pressing the power button: It will play the ringtone in its full length, unless it suspends again. If it suspends again and you wake it up, it just vibrates, but that does never stop. Nov 14 16:59:12 Richy: Would you please give me full debug log for that? Nov 14 16:59:21 (Using pastebin or putting it somewhere) Nov 14 16:59:26 If it is the case then you should open a ticket on FSO trac Nov 14 16:59:34 It's most likely a frameworkd bug Nov 14 16:59:46 (Damn these FSO guys ! :-)) Nov 14 17:03:03 Ainulindale, http://home.fhtw-berlin.de/~s0524020/frameworkd.log Nov 14 17:03:18 http://home.fhtw-berlin.de/~s0524020/ophonekitd.log Nov 14 17:03:32 Thanks :-) Nov 14 17:04:12 Ainulindale, lately, the PIN dialogue doesn't come up anymore. Some Enlightement error though. It works when restarting ophonekitd Nov 14 17:04:23 Richy: Very good log indeed, and unfortunately it's a bug to me Nov 14 17:04:26 Richy, have you enabled the gsm gadget? Nov 14 17:04:35 yes Nov 14 17:04:37 alphaone: http://home.fhtw-berlin.de/~s0524020/frameworkd.log Nov 14 17:04:49 alphaone: look for "setting resource status for GSM from suspending to suspended Nov 14 17:04:53 " Nov 14 17:05:16 mickey|zzZZzz: if you're there too Nov 14 17:05:23 stefan_schmidt: same here Nov 14 17:05:40 I enabled it, because I didn't receive any calls and wanted to know if im registered at least Nov 14 17:05:48 Richy: it's making e crash Nov 14 17:06:03 quickdev: I thought this gsm gadget thingy was solved in latest OE Nov 14 17:06:18 I'll bitbake shr-image tonight just to check Nov 14 17:06:19 Ainulindale: yeah, mickey found that one on my phone on the ride to his train today. Nov 14 17:06:32 Ainulindale: He is aware and thinking about a solution Nov 14 17:06:38 stefan_schmidt: Good :-) Nov 14 17:06:51 Richy: You should open a ticket for that if stefan_schmidt didn't do it Nov 14 17:06:58 (on trac.freesmartphone.org) Nov 14 17:07:26 rebelThor: seems there is a fennec package in angstrom: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/ Nov 14 17:07:39 Ainulindale: What should I see? Nov 14 17:07:39 Ainulindale: It is pretty much an outiming AT command we think. Nov 14 17:07:41 Ainulindale: what, if any, outstanding kernel issues are hindering SHR? (I fixed the GTA01 battery driver yesterday). Nov 14 17:07:51 Richy: Feel free to open a bug about it Nov 14 17:07:53 rebelThor: and here are some hints to fixes: http://n2.nabble.com/Fennec-on-Openmoko-tp781547p1350938.html Nov 14 17:08:09 Ainulindale: You could try current master branch Nov 14 17:08:12 Ainulindale, should I mention Wifi in the bug report? Nov 14 17:08:47 I changed the default timeout to 10 seconds Nov 14 17:09:12 mwester: what do you mean? Nov 14 17:09:26 naamd Nov 14 17:09:31 I'll take that answer as a "no" then... :) Nov 14 17:09:40 * mwester googles "naamd" Nov 14 17:09:43 mwester: more seriously, what do you mean? Nov 14 17:09:58 alphaone: I'll try in the end :-) Nov 14 17:10:16 'n Abend Nov 14 17:10:17 alphaone: I'd like to keep a floating SHR branch though Nov 14 17:10:37 grrrrrrrrrrrr: openmoko-contacts a retourné le code de sortie 1. Nov 14 17:10:49 this is good information!!! :) Nov 14 17:10:50 Heh :-) Nov 14 17:11:46 I think it did not like I restart frameworkd Nov 14 17:12:17 Ainulindale: there are numerous kernel issues in the bug tracking tools; I'm just asking if there are any known kernel issues that are big problems for SHR, or if SHR is in the same situation as all other distros WRT broken wifi, WSoD, and the general kernel problems. (If there are such problems, I'll take a look to see if they can be fixed). Nov 14 17:12:42 mwester: no, because we're not using latest Nov 14 17:12:58 Though I'd like to use latest Nov 14 17:13:13 Ah well... Ok. Nov 14 17:13:21 evenin' Nov 14 17:14:05 mwester: we're on a september kernel I think Nov 14 17:17:03 MarcOChapeau: naamd Nov 14 17:18:15 WSoD, yes we have WSoD :) and latest kernel won't fix it :( Nov 14 17:18:26 mrmoku: Huh? Nov 14 17:18:33 I don't have WSOD, and never thought someone using SHR had one Nov 14 17:18:51 Well anyway, I have to leave Nov 14 17:18:57 does not depend on the distro. kernel/hardware problem... Nov 14 17:19:03 A butcher has to remove one of my teeth Nov 14 17:19:16 right now I'm looking at one :( :( going to reboot Nov 14 17:19:23 mrmoku: yes that's why I was keeping the old kernel Nov 14 17:19:33 mrmoku: maybe even uboot problem Nov 14 17:19:54 Ainulindale, Komponent: framework/ogsmd? (for bugreport) -- (sry. for asking dumb questions. First bug report ever) Nov 14 17:20:15 Richy: That would do Nov 14 17:20:26 I also tried qi + stable-tracking some minutes ago... WSoD! Nov 14 17:20:50 so seems clearly kernel then Nov 14 17:21:03 ptitjes: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/2019015.txt :-/ Nov 14 17:21:05 Well anyway Nov 14 17:21:07 yep, and shows only on some freerunners Nov 14 17:21:10 I have to leave, so see you Nov 14 17:21:40 hmm, timing/race in kernel? Nov 14 17:22:31 bye Nov 14 17:22:40 bye Nov 14 17:23:08 mwester: did you read andy's mail with the gpio-resume patch? Nov 14 17:23:13 Hi btw :) Nov 14 17:23:19 Ainulindale: seen somewhere 0.7 was recommended Nov 14 17:23:33 Yes. I guess we're getting closer to being able to switch kernels now. :) Nov 14 17:23:59 mwester: yeah, making steady progress it seems Nov 14 17:24:11 mwester: It will all work out well in the end ;) Nov 14 17:24:22 ptitjes, 0.7? What kind of version is that? Nov 14 17:24:33 mwester: it just takes time... Nov 14 17:24:34 networkmanager 0.7 Nov 14 17:29:30 I think the signal is sent correctly when making a call, as I have this in log : Nov 14 17:29:34 ogsmd.objects INFO org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.CallStatus: 1 active {'status': 'active', 'peer': '+33663783490', 'line': 0} Nov 14 17:29:38 am I right ? Nov 14 17:30:59 ptitjes, it's active, we need outgoing and incoming an every call :) Nov 14 17:31:34 sorry could you tell more ? Nov 14 17:31:50 don't understand Nov 14 17:32:09 we need the "incoming" and "outgoing" signal at the beginning of the call, not the "active" signal while a call is active :) Nov 14 17:32:46 this should not be 'active' but 'outgoing' so! right ? Nov 14 17:33:22 almost at first and then does 'active' should be sent regularly ? Nov 14 17:36:13 yeah...'active' should be there, too Nov 14 17:40:18 what means python methods that are with underscores ??? like "__call__" Nov 14 18:16:29 quickdev ? Nov 14 18:16:37 ptitjes, ? Nov 14 18:16:46 quickdev, have you got a quick guide to compile SHR from git? Nov 14 18:17:11 do you know the code for ogsmd a bit ? Nov 14 18:17:50 or who should I ask for something I suppect to not be correct ? Nov 14 18:18:14 ptitjes, ask alphaone or mickey|zzZZzz :) Nov 14 18:18:27 furester, sorry, not yet, will fix it tomorrow I think Nov 14 18:18:41 ptitjes: What is it? Nov 14 18:18:47 ok, i freeze my compilations Nov 14 18:19:14 alphaone: I've tried to put @logged before the CallInitiate.trigger() method Nov 14 18:19:41 could i write at the beginning of Building SHR page on the wiki that the procudure fail atm? Nov 14 18:19:43 quickdev: when we'll have a new snapshot? the last was released 4 days ago Nov 14 18:19:46 It appears it isn't logged (I removed the .pyo, I think it is mandatory so that it recompile the py file) Nov 14 18:19:59 sylar, in 1-3 days :) Nov 14 18:20:04 see: Nov 14 18:20:08 quickdev: thanks Nov 14 18:20:09 2008.11.15 18:01:04 ogsmd DEBUG |...|...|...|...|...|...|...|...|...> CallInitiate.__init__: ENTER ( e/GSM/Device at 0x1dd710>, at 0x741bf0>, at 0x741bb0>),{'calltype': dbus.String(u'voice'), 'number': dbus.String(u'123')} Nov 14 18:20:09 2008.11.15 18:01:04 ogsmd DEBUG |...|...|...|...|...|...|...|...|...> CallInitiate.__init__: LEAVE Nov 14 18:20:09 2008.11.15 18:01:04 ogsmd WARNING : Got unicode input. Trying to convert to plain string... Nov 14 18:20:11 2008.11.15 18:01:05 ogsmd DEBUG |...|...|...|...|...|...|...|...> CallInitiate.__del__: ENTER (),{} Nov 14 18:20:14 2008.11.15 18:01:05 ogsmd DEBUG |...|...|...|...|...|...|...|...> CallInitiate.__del__: LEAVE Nov 14 18:20:16 furester, yes, you can, thanks Nov 14 18:20:29 The CallInitiate object is created and then destroyed Nov 14 18:20:39 No call to the trigger() method Nov 14 18:22:04 I'm looking for where the CallInitiate object is constructed for now... Nov 14 18:26:02 in FDOM, how can I disable output to external speakers, and only use audio output to earphones? Nov 14 18:27:22 mbuf: using amixer but I can't remember the exact alsa parameter to set to true Nov 14 18:28:01 ptitjes, i would like it to be persistent, without needing to connect to a computer and ssh Nov 14 18:28:49 don't know Nov 14 18:29:39 alphaone: who should call the trigger() method of the CallMediator objects ? the one that create them ? Nov 14 18:35:36 well Nov 14 18:35:47 it was one small tooth for man, but a giant tooth for my jaw Nov 14 18:36:05 ouch Nov 14 18:40:33 alphaone: could you explain me the AbstractMediator and AbstractYieldSupport stuff ? Nov 14 18:40:45 ptitjes: query Nov 14 18:43:28 ptitjes ? Nov 14 18:56:01 bye all Nov 14 19:37:19 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * ra0171e2c53b1 10framework/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Nov 14 19:37:19 freesmartphone.org: [odeviced] Added kernel26 option called 'fb_blank' (default=1). Nov 14 19:37:19 freesmartphone.org: If you suffer from the Om bug WSOD (white screen of death) during Nov 14 19:37:19 freesmartphone.org: "normal" operation, try setting this option to 0. Nov 14 19:38:32 Oh mickey|zzZZzz's alive Nov 14 19:40:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r116f05945d20 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' Nov 14 21:16:51 Hello - do anyone know if i can make phone calls using i.e. dbus on the fso-console-image ? Nov 14 21:22:19 Yes you can Nov 14 21:22:28 cli-frameworkd will allow you to do that Nov 14 21:22:39 Great :-) Nov 14 21:33:16 are there any new release plans? otherwise i will flash the images from 10-Nov-2008 Nov 14 21:34:00 There was no release Nov 14 21:34:13 no official one, i know Nov 14 21:34:35 lets call it pre pre alpha one;-) Nov 14 21:34:37 I know you know but you know I know I like to insist (and make long and absurde sentences) Nov 14 21:34:49 :-) Nov 14 21:35:17 this remembers me of a song from massive attack Nov 14 21:35:55 Ainulindale: i will go for the latest images Nov 14 21:36:19 We have bad issues with frameworkd these days, but that won't be on the image Nov 14 21:36:43 coming from ms4? Nov 14 21:37:03 Just bugs being there, not especially from MS4 Nov 14 21:37:47 there are lot of guys in this channel but who belongs to the core team? Nov 14 21:37:56 The SHR core team? Nov 14 21:38:06 yes Nov 14 21:38:09 That's easy Nov 14 21:38:11 We're two. Nov 14 21:38:16 quickdev & I Nov 14 21:38:24 thats not much Nov 14 21:38:27 Heh Nov 14 21:38:35 Why do you think I didn't want to release? :-) Nov 14 21:38:48 Now I spend my time answering mails and tickets Nov 14 21:39:00 But anyway, we're two plus anyone willing to give it a try Nov 14 21:39:14 MarcOChapeau is supposed to be a member too, but he's too lazy for that these days :-p Nov 14 21:39:21 you can be sure that i will give it more than a try Nov 14 21:39:21 Ainulindale: btw is the building process changed again? Nov 14 21:39:30 dolf1074: That is to say? Nov 14 21:39:45 BluesLee: Then we should discuss about what you'd be willing to do :-) Nov 14 21:39:54 that I get errors If I now try to build. It says that he can't locate some server for downloading Nov 14 21:40:01 Ah, yes, daria Nov 14 21:40:04 Well Nov 14 21:40:08 yup Nov 14 21:40:09 I don't know why daria is down Nov 14 21:40:17 If you want a quick & dirty fix Nov 14 21:40:32 please, that would help me Nov 14 21:40:33 Just find the shr/openembedded/classes/shr.bbclass file Nov 14 21:40:49 and put SHR_MIRROR ?= "git://shr.bearstech.com/repo" Nov 14 21:40:57 and Nov 14 21:40:58 SRC_URI = "${SHR_MIRROR}/shr.git;module=${PN};protocol=http Nov 14 21:41:00 Ainulindale: first, i will flash it to nand and havae a look into this framework+e+illume stuff Nov 14 21:41:04 Instead of the old values Nov 14 21:41:14 BluesLee: have a look into what? Nov 14 21:41:17 To do what? :-) Nov 14 21:41:28 Ainulindale: thanks Nov 14 21:41:38 You're welcome Nov 14 21:41:44 dolf1074: I should truly update the build process though Nov 14 21:42:20 Ainulindale: yeah it is the point where most people stop and don't go further with trying to help shr Nov 14 21:42:31 Ainulindale: you can be also sure that i cannot do much, i am not a coder, but i may help here and there, learning things, answering newcomers, this and that Nov 14 21:43:02 hey all Nov 14 21:43:03 we will see:-) Nov 14 21:43:39 can anybody point me in the shortest path to compile programs for instance raster's image Nov 14 21:45:21 dolf1074: Crap in fact I'm just doing it :-) Nov 14 21:46:03 dolf1074: Updated revision of the makefile online Nov 14 21:46:15 okay will test it Nov 14 21:46:17 dolf1074: please do mv shr shr-bak Nov 14 21:46:20 then make setup-shr Nov 14 21:47:08 Ainulindale: I will start from scratch. Than I can tell you if everything works ;) Nov 14 21:48:53 btw. @FSO: when will PIM be inserted? Will it be in the near future? Nov 14 21:49:31 Yes Nov 14 21:49:52 once abraxa awakens ;) Nov 14 21:49:57 Ainulindale: do you have any ideas how we can fit all windows to the used screen dimensions and change the used fonts corresponding to the content of the window? Nov 14 21:50:24 Ainulindale: at least in illume ... Nov 14 21:51:23 is it just a configuration thing "start application 1 at position ..." or is it harder Nov 14 21:51:51 Ainulindale: The newest Makefile is located here http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile? isn't it? Because if I now try to do 'make setup' it fails because daria refuse a connection Nov 14 21:54:53 Huh? Nov 14 21:54:54 Weird Nov 14 21:54:56 Wait Nov 14 21:55:10 It's impossible Nov 14 21:55:16 There's no "daria" in there Nov 14 21:56:15 Please redownload it :-) Nov 14 21:56:23 will do that ;) Nov 14 21:59:07 dolf1074: I also included all the requires automatically Nov 14 21:59:19 nice :) Nov 14 22:00:39 the patches still have to be done? Nov 14 22:01:03 Again the same error: Nov 14 22:01:04 Yep Nov 14 22:01:08 Checking out files: 100% (16582/16582), done. Nov 14 22:01:10 Switched to a new branch "milestone3" Nov 14 22:01:10 dolf1074: grep daria Makefile Nov 14 22:01:11 touch fso-milestone3/.configured Nov 14 22:01:13 make shr-unstable/.configured Nov 14 22:01:14 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ibex/progie/shr7' Nov 14 22:01:16 [ -e shr/.svn/entries ] || \ Nov 14 22:01:18 ( svn co svn://daria.forty-two.fr/shr/trunk shr ) Nov 14 22:01:19 svn: Can't connect to host 'daria.forty-two.fr': Connection refused Nov 14 22:01:21 make[1]: *** [shr/.svn/entries] Error 1 Nov 14 22:01:23 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ibex/progie/shr7' Nov 14 22:01:24 make: *** [setup-shr-unstable] Error 2 Nov 14 22:01:26 ( svn co svn://daria.forty-two.fr/shr/trunk shr ) Nov 14 22:01:26 stop that please Nov 14 22:01:34 * mwester has apparently entered someone elses ssh session Nov 14 22:01:41 Use pastebin for that kind of thing dolf1074 Nov 14 22:01:49 okay sorry Nov 14 22:02:29 dolf1074: but please grep daria Makefile | wc -l Nov 14 22:02:42 1 Nov 14 22:02:54 shr@opmbuild:~$ grep daria Makefile | wc -l Nov 14 22:02:54 0 Nov 14 22:03:01 This is the makefile which is online Nov 14 22:03:26 dolf1074: wget outputs the file which already exist as .1, .2 etc Nov 14 22:03:33 I bet you have some =) Nov 14 22:03:43 I made a new empty directory Nov 14 22:03:55 What are you wgeting ? Nov 14 22:04:03 But will investigate what's the problem Nov 14 22:04:20 because what I download doesn't have daria in it Nov 14 22:04:29 Heh :-) Nov 14 22:08:12 I think something in the make setup overwrite the Makefile Nov 14 22:08:27 because If I download the makefile with grep it doesn't have the word daria in it Nov 14 22:08:55 and if I let the make setup run, it stops with a connection refused to daria Nov 14 22:09:10 if I then look at the makefile, it gives that the word daria is in it Nov 14 22:09:26 Ok let me see that Nov 14 22:10:24 Currently doing make setup Nov 14 22:11:53 * vininim 2 Nov 14 22:13:47 dolf1074: Ok I know why Nov 14 22:14:15 And is it solvable? Nov 14 22:15:47 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07fso-makefile * r786a99f0c55b 10/Makefile: Updated the SHR directives (migration from SVN to GIT, plus some options). Nov 14 22:16:01 Is this a sufficient answer? :-) Nov 14 22:16:10 yeah ;) Nov 14 22:16:30 So I will try it again Nov 14 22:16:48 mrmoku: I deleted the useless patchsets, and kept the last one Nov 14 22:16:51 Thanks again for your work :-) Nov 14 22:17:02 mrmoku: you should give this to raster Nov 14 22:17:09 welcome Nov 14 22:17:19 I almost have a new one :) Nov 14 22:17:27 There's one more patch upstream I noticed Nov 14 22:18:20 Ok then commit it on the trac Nov 14 22:18:21 By the way Nov 14 22:18:23 You can register now Nov 14 22:18:38 ok, will do Nov 14 22:19:50 http://shr.bearstech.com verlangt einen Benutzernamen und ein Passwort. Ausgabe der Website: "Trac authentication" Nov 14 22:19:56 when clicking Register Nov 14 22:20:52 Huh? Nov 14 22:21:18 alphaone registered some days ago, rebelThor too Nov 14 22:21:39 Ahh, giving my login and password there works - just did not expect it this way Nov 14 22:22:13 So you were registered then? Nov 14 22:22:37 yup, logged in as mrmoku :) Nov 14 22:22:49 Aaaah, so you're the famous mrmoku then! Nov 14 22:23:22 uhh, not famous just mrmoku :) Nov 14 22:24:00 Ainulindale: little question that's unclear when reading the wiki. Do you have to do ". setup-env" before "make image" the first time? Nov 14 22:24:22 yes Nov 14 22:24:59 can it be that my terminal just shuts down when doing that? Nov 14 22:25:23 Yes it can Nov 14 22:25:46 than just restart terminal and do make setup in the right directory? Nov 14 22:25:46 You have to do that in the shr-testing directory Nov 14 22:26:18 I do that in the shr-testing directory Nov 14 22:26:21 dolf1074: if conf/topdir.conf does not exist setup-env does exit Nov 14 22:26:38 confused me too for a while :) Nov 14 22:27:06 So I have to make that file myself? Nov 14 22:27:15 echo "export TOPDIR=$(pwd)" > conf/topdir.conf should fix it Nov 14 22:27:47 mrmoku: it should do that.. Nov 14 22:27:56 Ainulindale: It doesn't do that Nov 14 22:28:01 Ok then I'll fix that Nov 14 22:28:03 mrmoku: i filtered "echo fixed" from your last line:-) Nov 14 22:28:36 ? Nov 14 22:28:44 just a joke Nov 14 22:29:20 * mrmoku is german and does not understand jokes ;) Nov 14 22:29:40 mrmoku: oh my god Nov 14 22:30:06 mrmoku: dann sach ich mal gute nacht du Nov 14 22:30:17 good night Nov 14 22:30:19 * mrmoku is not very religious either :-) Nov 14 22:30:21 good night Nov 14 22:30:25 Wait are we all on the right path: So 'wget makefile' => 'make setup' => 'apply patches' => 'edit conf' => 'cd shr-testing' => 'topdir.conf fix' => '. setup-env' => 'make image' Nov 14 22:30:28 right? Nov 14 22:30:50 hi all, i managed to get fennec running on SHR Nov 14 22:31:09 is it fast? Nov 14 22:31:26 it's not a clean install, but if you want to try get a look here: http://xenos.altervista.org/blogs/index.php?blog=3&title=fennec-on-shr&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 Nov 14 22:31:38 it's the contrary of fast! Nov 14 22:31:53 but i think that there is a lot of things to change in about:config Nov 14 22:31:55 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07fso-makefile * r856c426bca3b 10/Makefile: Added the topdir.conf generation. Nov 14 22:31:59 for example the dpi Nov 14 22:31:59 Here it is Nov 14 22:32:07 furester: nice background :) Nov 14 22:32:27 dolf1074, thanks! Nov 14 22:34:30 Ainulindale: if I do the path I have described, it get the following http://pastebin.com/m4d305f13. (Will now try it with the new makefile) Nov 14 22:34:41 furester: http://shr.bearstech.com Nov 14 22:34:42 Hmpf Nov 14 22:34:49 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/2021485.txt Nov 14 22:35:00 See what I had :-) Nov 14 22:35:05 This bb recipe is badly done Nov 14 22:35:27 dolf1074: stop Nov 14 22:35:31 ok Nov 14 22:36:43 mrmoku: your fix doesn't work Nov 14 22:36:47 I use the ipk bin to install it Nov 14 22:36:48 (the export thing) Nov 14 22:37:11 i think that angstrom has some different package name and bin name Nov 14 22:37:24 (for example autoconf2.13) Nov 14 22:37:26 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07fso-makefile * r9ab2385a6bb1 10/Makefile: Correct modification of topdir.conf Nov 14 22:37:41 hmm, thought i did it that way - let me check Nov 14 22:37:43 and I have to replace gtk+-fastscaling with gtk+ Nov 14 22:37:48 mrmoku: It'll fail on some things if you do that Nov 14 22:38:39 standing in shr-testing? What will fail? Nov 14 22:39:52 some bitbake includes Nov 14 22:40:26 hmm, to be honest I don't know what TOPDIR is supposed to point at Nov 14 22:40:28 dolf1074: I bet your topdir.conf contains /home/user/shr/shr-testing Nov 14 22:40:33 Whereas it should be Nov 14 22:40:41 => /home/user/shr Nov 14 22:40:49 Err Nov 14 22:40:52 The other way around Nov 14 22:40:56 shr@opmbuild:~/shr-testing$ cat conf/topdir.conf Nov 14 22:40:56 TOPDIR='/home/shr/shr-testing' Nov 14 22:41:16 it points to /home/ibex/progie/shr9/shr-testing Nov 14 22:41:30 Yup, this is what I ment. doing the echo while being in shr-testing... Nov 14 22:41:48 dolf1074: please change export in TOPDIR='path' Nov 14 22:41:57 As seen there Nov 14 22:42:06 (Don't know if it'll work, I hope it will) Nov 14 22:42:26 just to path or do I have to do some magical replacement? Nov 14 22:42:46 TOPDIR='/home/ibex/progie/shr9/shr-testing Nov 14 22:42:47 ' Nov 14 22:42:54 If your working directory is there Nov 14 22:43:41 But that were the words that stood in that file? Nov 14 22:44:00 dolf1074: Please, go in your shr-testing directory Nov 14 22:44:04 and cat conf/topdir.conf Nov 14 22:44:07 and paste output here Nov 14 22:44:18 TOPDIR='/home/ibex/progie/shr9/shr-testing' Nov 14 22:44:51 Is this the good path? Nov 14 22:45:21 Think so, because I downloaded the Makefile to /home/ibex/progie/shr9/ Nov 14 22:45:26 Ok then Nov 14 22:45:30 Then retry . setup-env Nov 14 22:45:44 Then try to resume what you were doing Nov 14 22:45:53 http://pastebin.com/m3ff997f8 Nov 14 22:46:13 Again ? Nov 14 22:46:16 yes Nov 14 22:46:20 Damn Nov 14 22:46:28 quickdev did this modification Nov 14 22:46:31 I don't remember what he did Nov 14 22:46:51 dolf1074: in between modify your local.conf and put the full path of the file Nov 14 22:47:02 (/home/ibex/progie/shr9/shr/openembedded/conf...) Nov 14 22:47:30 on the BBFILES var? Nov 14 22:47:34 and don't make image Nov 14 22:47:39 dolf1074: no, in the end Nov 14 22:47:42 the require Nov 14 22:48:03 done Nov 14 22:48:07 Do not make image Nov 14 22:48:12 make shr-lite-image Nov 14 22:48:17 It'll be a lot faster Nov 14 22:48:24 (no midori as an example) Nov 14 22:48:30 It'll give you something to start with Nov 14 22:48:55 It says the rule shr-lite-image doesn't exist Nov 14 22:49:06 heh, I started it about 16 hours ago: Running task 2184 of 5790 Nov 14 22:49:10 so fast is relative :-) Nov 14 22:49:27 very relative :) Nov 14 22:49:36 here it is done in 1 sec Nov 14 22:49:36 dolf1074: well it seems it can't find the files Nov 14 22:49:45 dolf1074: can you try to do bitbake ophonekitd see if it finds it? Nov 14 22:50:25 Ah damn me Nov 14 22:50:29 make shr-image-lite Nov 14 22:50:37 not shr-lite-image Nov 14 22:50:42 though I should rename it Nov 14 22:51:53 Is this the right directory: /home/ibex/progie/shr9/shr/openembedded/conf...? Nov 14 22:52:01 because that doesn't exist Nov 14 22:52:10 Argh Nov 14 22:52:14 dolf1074: Be more constructive please Nov 14 22:52:18 I didn't put the full path here Nov 14 22:52:26 I asked you to put the full path BEFORE conf/something/something Nov 14 22:52:29 Which I don't remember ! =) Nov 14 22:52:50 Should look like Nov 14 22:52:51 require conf/distro/include/shr-autorev.inc Nov 14 22:52:55 So in your case Nov 14 22:53:03 require /home/ibex/progie/shr9/shr/openembedded/conf/distro/include/shr-autorev.inc Nov 14 22:53:12 yeah, I did that Nov 14 22:53:18 and that file doesn't exist Nov 14 22:53:26 (sorry have to explain myself better) Nov 14 22:53:48 Huh? Nov 14 22:54:18 dolf1074: is there a shr/openembedded dir? Nov 14 22:54:37 no, but there is a shr dir Nov 14 22:54:37 AND DAMN ME AGAIN Nov 14 22:54:57 See, I'm tired Nov 14 22:55:04 That's why I do stupid tings Nov 14 22:55:05 +h Nov 14 22:55:21 I see. But no problem. Everybody has that on his turns ;) Nov 14 22:56:22 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07fso-makefile * rede541822e9d 10/Makefile: Damn me. Should look twice before putting dumb repositories... Nov 14 22:56:28 dolf1074: Either you start over Nov 14 22:56:45 okay, will do ;) Nov 14 22:56:50 Or you rm -rf shr Nov 14 22:56:53 Then git clone the good one Nov 14 22:56:55 now where in the directory shr10 ;) Nov 14 22:57:01 *we are Nov 14 22:57:12 git clone http://shr.bearstech.com/repo/shr-overlay.git shr <= the good command Nov 14 22:58:24 Going away to grab a smoke, dolf1074, will be back soon Nov 14 22:58:32 * [Rui] waves... Nov 14 22:58:35 okay Nov 14 22:58:44 <[Rui]> where do I get a toolchain for FSO? Nov 14 23:01:40 <[Rui]> should I use http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain? Nov 14 23:01:59 * [Rui] would guess not, and specially not the old binary builds... Nov 14 23:04:19 /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with qemu so please fix the value (as root). Nov 14 23:04:23 wat Nov 14 23:05:22 echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr Nov 14 23:05:30 that stands on the wiki Nov 14 23:06:16 indeed Nov 14 23:07:50 [Rui]: http://moko.mwester.net has an FSO toolchain. Nov 14 23:08:29 vininim: or just disable locale building Nov 14 23:08:49 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: thanks! Nov 14 23:11:17 Ainulindale: If I set everything, I can start 'make image' without problem. (And that even starts without doing '. setup-env' on forehand) On the other hand 'make shr-image-lite' doesn't work (it complains there is no rule for that). 'bitbake ophonekitd' also starts (after doing . setup-env) Nov 14 23:14:16 lol at svn: Can't connect to host 'daria.forty-two.fr': Connection refused Nov 14 23:14:24 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: confused...where ? Nov 14 23:14:47 vininim: did you download the newest makefile? Nov 14 23:14:57 Ok then do as told :-) Nov 14 23:15:15 yes, it's a after bitbaking processing Nov 14 23:15:29 well... I could try cleaing it all up and restarting Nov 14 23:15:36 Ainulindale: you mean changing the pathc in local.conf? Nov 14 23:16:59 [Rui]: if you follow the link to the FSO/Qt Extended page, you'll find the link to the pre-built toolchains, which are hosted here: http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#qtx_on_fso Nov 14 23:17:32 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: ah I thought it was only about qtextended Nov 14 23:18:07 The toolchain was constructed for the purpose of building Qt Extended on FSO. Nov 14 23:22:46 Ainulindale: bitbake ophonekitd still tries to connect to daria Nov 14 23:23:30 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: ok, still confused, I'm terribly sorry, but I don't see anything but a patch to apply to qtextended Nov 14 23:23:49 <[Rui]> I couldn't care less about qtextended (I view it as a zombie project) Nov 14 23:24:05 Ainulindale: sorry, you mean by 'do as told' that changing of the bbclass file? Nov 14 23:24:44 [Rui]: I posted a link that takes you directly to a page that provides a direct link to download the compressed tar file of the toolchain. Don't know what else I can do. Nov 14 23:25:08 Your opinion on Qt Extended is quite wrong, and totally irrelevant. Nov 14 23:25:10 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: is it a hidden link? :) Nov 14 23:25:44 <[Rui]> argh must me lack of coffee Nov 14 23:25:52 I can't waste anymore time [Rui]. GUess you'll have to build it yourself. Nov 14 23:26:13 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: no, I saw gta01, then gta02 and totally missed toolchain on top of it :) Nov 14 23:26:20 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: thank you very much! Nov 14 23:26:44 vininim: still here? Nov 14 23:28:06 dolf1074: yes I'm trying from the begginning processing bitbakes now Nov 14 23:28:58 you didn't throw you directory away? Because you just have to edit one file to let it work again. (Sorry that I just tell this now, I had forgotten it) Nov 14 23:29:20 heh Nov 14 23:29:59 You have to open shr/openembedded/classes/shr.bbclass Nov 14 23:30:15 and change SHR_MIRROR ?= "git://shr.bearstech.com/repo" and SRC_URI = "${SHR_MIRROR}/shr.git;module=${PN};protocol=http Nov 14 23:30:24 I was going to do that by fgrep =X Nov 14 23:36:04 vininim: And already succeeded? I've also adapted the wiki and put that fix on the Troubleshooting section Nov 14 23:36:21 dolf1074: building Nov 14 23:36:52 <[Rui]> mwester-laptop: will have to build it my self anyway... amd64 here. thanks though, I was trying to avoid it for it takes quite long *sigh* Nov 14 23:36:53 will now seek my bed (and hopefully find it :p) Nov 14 23:37:01 158 of 6166 =O Nov 14 23:37:03 dolf1074: no, just do as said on the wiki Nov 14 23:37:18 dolf1074: And I'll change the bbclass in between Nov 14 23:37:26 Ainulindale: okay Nov 14 23:43:26 Currently commiting Nov 14 23:43:45 Done. Nov 14 23:43:50 dolf1074: cd shr && git pull Nov 14 23:44:28 Still doing 'make setup' Nov 14 23:44:47 256 of 6166 =X Nov 14 23:44:56 To speed up things Nov 14 23:45:02 Do bitbake shr-image-litre Nov 14 23:45:05 Do bitbake shr-image-lite Nov 14 23:45:08 Instead of make image Nov 14 23:46:37 Having again the trouble that '. setup-env' kills my terminal Nov 14 23:46:55 Do I have to apply the 'fix' of mrmoku Nov 14 23:47:11 dolf1074: do it but I fixed it in the official Makefile Nov 14 23:47:20 So I'd suggest you retry make setup Nov 14 23:47:25 ok Nov 14 23:47:43 and after that tell me if there's a shr-testing/conf/topdir.conf file Nov 14 23:47:57 ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf Nov 14 23:48:19 Ainulindale: there is a topdir.conf file Nov 14 23:48:26 is the path good? Nov 14 23:49:03 It should lead to the shr-testing directory isn't it? Nov 14 23:49:06 yes Nov 14 23:49:11 than it is wrong Nov 14 23:49:14 TOPDIR = '/home/ibex/progie/shr10' Nov 14 23:49:17 Raah god dammit Nov 14 23:49:45 I doomed to do bad things today Nov 14 23:49:49 Correct it I'll correct my stuff Nov 14 23:50:07 okay ;) Nov 14 23:51:22 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07fso-makefile * r5e05da713ceb 10/Makefile: TOPDIR is install directory plus subdirectory. Nov 14 23:51:51 Ainulindale: Is it normal that the '. setup-env' still closes my terminal, even if there is a correct topdir.conf file? Nov 14 23:51:58 dolf1074: rm your topdir.conf file Nov 14 23:52:02 and make setup again Nov 14 23:52:14 And now, this isn't normal Nov 14 23:52:54 make setup fails: http://pastebin.com/m6b2ea51c Nov 14 23:53:22 Gniiii Nov 14 23:53:27 Ah ok Nov 14 23:53:28 That is normal Nov 14 23:53:31 i'll just leave make image on and go to bed Nov 14 23:53:32 Because of raster patches Nov 14 23:53:32 dolf1074: you have to do the git clean -d -f reset stuff Nov 14 23:53:37 Don't do it dolf1074 Nov 14 23:53:50 I tested the makefile here for topdir Nov 14 23:53:51 It worked Nov 14 23:53:55 So please just correct yours Nov 14 23:53:59 Then . setup-env Nov 14 23:54:47 That closes my terminal :( Nov 14 23:55:19 have you set an alias for . ? Nov 14 23:55:20 try . conf/topdir.conf Nov 14 23:56:01 That gives 'bash: TOPDIR: command not found' Nov 14 23:56:04 I'm doomed to commit bad stuff today Nov 14 23:56:15 Hey Nov 14 23:56:20 That's weird, this topdir thing is ambivalent Nov 14 23:56:20 maybe we 2 should go to sleep and try in the morning :p Nov 14 23:56:26 And I can't understand why it works here Nov 14 23:56:31 dolf1074: add export as mrmoku said Nov 14 23:56:33 quickdev: hey Nov 14 23:56:36 updated makefile and such Nov 14 23:56:41 great :) Nov 14 23:57:23 you mean echo "export TOPDIR=$(pwd)" > conf/topdir.conf ? Nov 14 23:57:32 dolf1074: yes Nov 14 23:57:38 quickdev: i remember you from #haskell :D Nov 14 23:57:45 that works Nov 14 23:57:49 vininim, never been there Nov 14 23:57:57 are you sure? Nov 14 23:57:59 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07fso-makefile * rd6fa6c5d7a25 10/Makefile: Nov 14 23:57:59 freesmartphone.org: setup-env borks on topdir.conf because of missing export. Nov 14 23:57:59 freesmartphone.org: This thing is eventually going to work, isn't it? Nov 14 23:58:04 yes, absolutely Nov 14 23:58:13 nevermind... confusing you with quicksilver Nov 14 23:58:42 quickdev: I also commited midori, numptyphysics and some python bb recipes Nov 14 23:58:55 Did you fix your font issue? Nov 14 23:58:57 And the close issue? Nov 14 23:59:09 Ainulindale, there's always good news when I come back and you did some work :) Nov 14 23:59:11 If you don't, get to work, or feel my wrath Nov 14 23:59:22 Ainulindale, didn't fix it yet...because I don't know how to start ophonekitd after enlightenment Nov 14 23:59:28 quickdev: every time you come back I did stuff meanwhile, you jackass ! :-) Nov 14 23:59:35 ok, first natch of rasters patches are in Nov 14 23:59:36 hrr Nov 14 23:59:44 quickdev: my init.d script aren't pleasing you? Nov 14 23:59:46 Ainulindale: Your numptyphysics is next Nov 14 23:59:46 stefan_schmidt: in OE? Nov 14 23:59:49 hi all, btw Nov 14 23:59:52 stefan_schmidt: Please correct that Nov 14 23:59:52 Ainulindale: yes Nov 14 23:59:58 stefan_schmidt: the SRC_URI is dirty Nov 15 00:00:08 Please put the rev in sane-srcrev Nov 15 00:00:09 Ainulindale: What exactly? Nov 15 00:00:13 rev=109 Nov 15 00:00:15 Ainulindale: heh, already done :) Nov 15 00:00:20 Ok perfect then Nov 15 00:00:23 Ainulindale: I do review :) Nov 15 00:00:28 stefan_schmidt: That's a good thing Nov 15 00:00:30 Go and review ogsmd Nov 15 00:00:35 Ainulindale: heh Nov 15 00:00:36 There are some bugs in there :-) Nov 15 00:00:45 For sure. Nov 15 00:01:06 stefan_schmidt: I also built a bb package for midori 0.1.0 Nov 15 00:01:08 I'll give it to you Nov 15 00:01:11 This milestone I'll go more into frameworkd. Need to have a deeper look there Nov 15 00:01:16 (right now I want to redo it to adapt it to waf) Nov 15 00:01:21 Ainulindale: ok Nov 15 00:01:28 stefan_schmidt: There's also a mofi bb recipe Nov 15 00:01:31 Which, I think, I lost Nov 15 00:01:48 Ah no Nov 15 00:01:49 It's there Nov 15 00:02:06 grr Nov 15 00:02:09 And two python packages too (configobj which you should use in frameworkd by the way if you don't use this kind of thing) and pytho-wifi Nov 15 00:02:12 +n Nov 15 00:02:18 Could be useful anyhow Nov 15 00:02:22 HAving only https access to the maemo svn is shit Nov 15 00:02:33 stefan_schmidt: You should also review my latest changes on fso-makefile Nov 15 00:02:34 Need to manually ack the certificate :( Nov 15 00:02:39 Because I only modified shr directives Nov 15 00:02:46 But some things are missing for fso Nov 15 00:02:47 (topdir) Nov 15 00:02:58 Ainulindale: nah, I never use the makefile myself. No idea how it works Nov 15 00:03:05 stefan_schmidt: It's pretty neat Nov 15 00:03:16 It's mostly just a tool to keep an overlay in touch with the world Nov 15 00:03:23 And for lazy people Nov 15 00:03:28 quickdev: shut up (in advance) Nov 15 00:03:41 (I'm taking preventive actions :-p) Nov 15 00:04:50 heh Nov 15 00:05:03 quickdev: I tried to make networkmanager work Nov 15 00:05:08 But that's a hassle Nov 15 00:05:16 (using pynetworkmanager) Nov 15 00:05:23 That would be a great addition to SHR Nov 15 00:05:29 yep Nov 15 00:05:33 yeah, defintely Nov 15 00:05:37 If someone doesn't know what to do Nov 15 00:05:39 Then try it =) Nov 15 00:05:48 Or try to find a nice UI for networkmanager Nov 15 00:06:14 or write an illume gadget applet ;) Nov 15 00:06:21 Or die ! Nov 15 00:06:24 Anyway Nov 15 00:06:29 Smoke, again Nov 15 00:07:03 And by the way Nov 15 00:07:11 if you guys want to help but can't develop Nov 15 00:07:20 You should answer to the threads here and there Nov 15 00:07:30 I'm all alone, I can't answer to them all :-) Nov 15 00:07:45 I would prefer to develop something Nov 15 00:07:51 fair enough ;) Nov 15 00:07:53 but this OE building procedure is hindering me :( Nov 15 00:07:57 I'm not mickey|zz^W a super-hero Nov 15 00:08:15 (aaaah, ^W jokes) Nov 15 00:08:22 (it's been a long time, you and me) Nov 15 00:08:25 mrmoku, I had the same problems at the beginning. But I managed through after some days...then it was ok ;) Nov 15 00:09:01 Running task 2504 of 5790Running task 2504 of 5790 and I allready know it will fail ;) Nov 15 00:09:10 oops Nov 15 00:09:19 Ainulindale: your patch for topdir isn't working Nov 15 00:09:33 Ainulindale: ok, pushed Nov 15 00:09:47 That'S it for today. Need to catch some sleep. Nov 15 00:09:50 Night guys Nov 15 00:11:32 g'night Nov 15 00:12:43 Ainulindale: The terminal doesn't like the spaces next to the =. So "export TOPDIR = '/home/ibex/progie/shr11/shr-testing'" doesn't work, but "export TOPDIR='/home/ibex/progie/shr11/shr-testing'" does Nov 15 00:13:50 me too needs some sleep now Nov 15 00:13:54 good night Nov 15 00:14:47 raaaaaah Nov 15 00:14:50 hahaha Nov 15 00:15:00 I think i'm building for x86-64 Nov 15 00:15:57 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07fso-makefile * ra1dc477dc436 10/Makefile: Removed spaces on topdir. It'll work someday, somehow. Nov 15 00:16:05 Nice comment ;) Nov 15 00:16:12 I'm doing such dumb things Nov 15 00:16:19 I can't work this tired Nov 15 00:16:36 x86_64-linux-libtool: link: `escape.lo' is not a valid libtool object Nov 15 00:16:47 (and let's forget that x86_64 for a while) Nov 15 00:16:56 Ainulindale: I think that will do it ;) Nov 15 00:17:13 but gonna test it, so we know for sure Nov 15 00:17:38 I hate it that I don't know more about the whole bitbake thing Nov 15 00:17:56 Else I could help you fixing these issues Nov 15 00:20:44 dolf1074: this has nothing to do with bitbake Nov 15 00:20:47 It's just me being dumb Nov 15 00:21:28 mmm that is the host specification it seems, not target Nov 15 00:21:57 Ainulindale: Success, bitbake shr-image-lite has begun :) Nov 15 00:22:05 that's something at least Nov 15 00:24:31 Yeah but should I know how bitbake worked, I should see what the error was and could solve it instead of having to ask you. Nov 15 00:26:56 * sicu is having fun reading through Ainulindales latest fso-makefile commits Nov 15 00:27:19 hehe ... cup of coffee would do you a world of good ;] Nov 15 00:29:23 Now I go to bed. bye bye Nov 15 00:30:03 Ainulindale: I will report tomorrow if the bitbake shr-lite-image has succesfully succeeded ;) Nov 15 00:30:35 But i stile haven't have errors ;) Nov 15 00:33:29 Anyone here tried the fso-openmoko-console-image? I can't seen to ssh into it Nov 15 00:38:25 anyone managing to build curl? Nov 15 00:41:02 Kagee: why? Nov 15 00:41:21 Kagee: can't ping it? or just not ssh into it? Nov 15 00:41:26 i see now that i'we got some strang messages in dmesg Nov 15 00:41:44 no ssh Nov 15 00:41:46 forgot to ping it Nov 15 00:42:10 lemme boot it and try Nov 15 00:44:16 i think there is something wrong that's not right -> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted Nov 15 00:44:25 but probably not with the phone Nov 15 00:45:18 firestarter blocked it - i'n not used to having a firewall installed :-) Nov 15 00:48:59 uh.. after bitbake shr-lite-image where should it appear? Nov 15 00:49:30 The image? Nov 15 00:49:38 yes Nov 15 00:49:48 good morning raster! Nov 15 00:49:50 If nothing failed in shr-testing/tmp/deploy/glibc/images Nov 15 00:50:14 hey raster Nov 15 00:50:43 sicu: boo Nov 15 00:50:52 quickdev: booyah Nov 15 00:51:35 raster, concerning the font size problem. I think I found the root. The daemon that shows the dialogs is started before enlightenment :) Nov 15 00:52:06 aaaah! Nov 15 00:52:13 so it gets the scale property on start Nov 15 00:52:17 and sees none Nov 15 00:52:17 yes :) Nov 15 00:52:19 so assumes 0 Nov 15 00:52:24 err 1.0 Nov 15 00:52:25 i mean Nov 15 00:52:29 that makes perfect sense Nov 15 00:52:42 yes - it'd be nice if it detects property changes Nov 15 00:52:52 and adjusts its config as it changes Nov 15 00:52:52 right.. Nov 15 00:52:56 i KNOW i havent done that Nov 15 00:53:08 one of those i's to dot Nov 15 00:53:10 and t's to cross Nov 15 00:53:13 eventually Nov 15 00:53:14 :) Nov 15 00:53:43 anyway to tell bitbake to build only armv4 images? Nov 15 00:53:50 imho u actually want a different kind of button too Nov 15 00:53:53 for a dialler Nov 15 00:54:03 one where u can have a primary numebr Nov 15 00:54:07 then secondary string Nov 15 00:54:07 eg Nov 15 00:54:12 abc Nov 15 00:54:13 1 Nov 15 00:54:16 yeah Nov 15 00:54:18 def Nov 15 00:54:19 2 Nov 15 00:54:23 would be fine. custom widget? Nov 15 00:54:24 where the abc is a small string Nov 15 00:54:25 1 is big Nov 15 00:54:30 always expanded to fill Nov 15 00:54:47 in this case i'd just make another kind of button myself Nov 15 00:55:03 or not even use a button Nov 15 00:55:09 u arleady do it all as an edje Nov 15 00:55:17 make the whole dialler pad a signel edje Nov 15 00:55:19 buttons as well Nov 15 00:56:14 reasoning here would be that u can make buttons on the corners different Nov 15 00:56:20 raster, depends..I'd like to use the elementary theme as much as possible Nov 15 00:56:22 and make tyhem maybe be different colors Nov 15 00:56:22 etc. Nov 15 00:56:27 oh sure Nov 15 00:56:32 this'd just be part of the elm theme Nov 15 00:56:39 u want this as an actual elm widget imho Nov 15 00:56:47 a "dialpad" widget Nov 15 00:56:53 yeah Nov 15 00:56:54 it has a 3x4 array of buttons Nov 15 00:57:05 0-9 + X and # Nov 15 00:57:13 the other buttons are some other control Nov 15 00:57:20 but that dialpad widget would have to go into elementary in order to share the elementary theme? Nov 15 00:57:20 all u get is events of "butotn X pressed" Nov 15 00:57:27 correct Nov 15 00:57:37 well i havent exported any elm theme stuff yet Nov 15 00:57:42 but i'd just add a dialpad to the elm theme Nov 15 00:58:50 added it to my todo list Nov 15 00:58:51 :) Nov 15 00:59:04 but this is what u want i think Nov 15 00:59:12 as there is very little point doign the layout in edje Nov 15 00:59:15 (and not use a table) Nov 15 00:59:25 but then use elm buttons just to get the button look Nov 15 00:59:38 in this case u want to use edje's "fit text to region" options Nov 15 00:59:50 (where it will choose the font size for u base on the space given the text part) Nov 15 01:00:07 eventually I'd like to use a real elementary widget, right, yes Nov 15 01:00:07 this means that the font size will change based on the space given the dialpad Nov 15 01:00:12 but thats what u want Nov 15 01:00:18 yup Nov 15 01:00:20 added to my list Nov 15 01:00:26 i'll be gettign on with elm more tongith Nov 15 01:00:36 right now writing up hal/dbus support for e's battery module Nov 15 01:00:49 fine :) Nov 15 01:01:17 the scale factor would have a greater priority than the dialer keypad :) Nov 15 01:01:31 hehehe Nov 15 01:03:05 or is there a dirty way to work around it? :) Nov 15 01:03:13 till you finished stuff :) Nov 15 01:04:54 hmmm Nov 15 01:04:56 not really Nov 15 01:05:49 i dont have any other way to set the scale factor in elm unless u patch elm's code Nov 15 01:06:36 other than dont start your stuff before e Nov 15 01:06:41 get e to start it for u Nov 15 01:06:48 if u have a .desktop Nov 15 01:06:52 just list the .desktop file in Nov 15 01:07:01 ~/.e/e/appliocations/startup/.order Nov 15 01:07:03 (text file) Nov 15 01:07:13 e will launch stuff for u Nov 15 01:08:43 raster, great...tried to add a file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d...but the x-window-manager file blocks as long as enlightenment is running Nov 15 01:08:58 yes Nov 15 01:09:11 its always the last thing run in your session Nov 15 01:09:18 as it is the thing that keeps the session open Nov 15 01:09:19 wm dies Nov 15 01:09:22 (or exits) Nov 15 01:09:26 x session ends Nov 15 01:09:29 by bye x and apps Nov 15 01:09:30 :) Nov 15 01:09:42 so wm's (if they are the session holders) should NEVER exit or crash Nov 15 01:09:53 yeah, in the ideal case :) Nov 15 01:09:56 (unless u really explicitly wanted it) Nov 15 01:10:07 thus e has its white-box-of-death Nov 15 01:10:26 thgats e being nice and going "lets face it. there will be bugs. lets not screw your login in the process!" Nov 15 01:10:27 :) Nov 15 01:11:47 hrr :) Nov 15 01:16:24 but but but but... bugs are evil! good programmers don't write bugs! Nov 15 01:17:31 mwester: let's face it Nov 15 01:17:35 We're talking about e there Nov 15 01:17:43 I guess. :( Nov 15 01:17:49 maybe "f" will be better, huh? Nov 15 01:17:53 :-p Nov 15 01:18:05 (after all, nobody codes in "a" or "b" Nov 15 01:18:06 ) Nov 15 01:18:14 You're wrong Nov 15 01:18:24 I know people who are Nov 15 01:19:05 they should get with the times, then! Nov 15 01:19:16 I even know people doing Z Nov 15 01:19:17 Heck, we're almost a "d" already (c++) Nov 15 01:21:13 D is a different language Nov 15 01:22:06 mwester: if debugging is how you get bugs out of software, programming is how you get them in Nov 15 01:22:40 hmm.... I always thought they just bred inside the code. Nov 15 01:26:05 they like to mate in sections with bad documentation Nov 15 01:31:52 they'r sentient beings Nov 15 01:32:00 this is how the matrix is born Nov 15 01:32:13 the bugs finally have enough fo being squashed Nov 15 01:32:17 and go on the offensive Nov 15 01:32:30 Is that what those "factory" methods are in some C++ code, then? Nov 15 01:33:09 the bugs dont ewant you to know Nov 15 01:33:11 :) Nov 15 02:43:29 raster, when pressing the buttons there's almost no visual difference. The whole button should get a different color to give the user some feedback :) Nov 15 02:46:16 * mwester thinks they should develop cracks, then fall down the screen, accompanied by a cracking noise and a little tinkling noise like broken glass falling inside the fr... Nov 15 02:49:15 quickdev: i know Nov 15 02:49:35 i have been wondering what to do Nov 15 02:49:43 i was contemplating a bit of a glow actually Nov 15 02:49:57 but thats just a matter of theme Nov 15 02:52:05 raster, could you think of a way to improve startup time of an efl app? Nov 15 02:52:12 yes Nov 15 02:52:20 tell me :) Nov 15 02:52:34 i like mwester's idea, i'm sure rendering something like that would no problem for the glamo =] Nov 15 02:52:37 pre-launch a forked efl app that has already done all the init stuff Nov 15 02:52:45 then dlopen() it find a special efl_main() Nov 15 02:52:51 and run from there Nov 15 02:53:05 but... it's probably not worth it Nov 15 02:53:07 raster, I'm using the same mechanism atm ;) Nov 15 02:53:25 sicu: u'd be surprisied how little the glamo can do Nov 15 02:53:29 a daemon that initialized efl things...and a FIFO to send commands to it Nov 15 02:53:42 then a .desktop file: echo DIALER > /tmp/daemon.FIFO Nov 15 02:53:42 raster Nov 15 02:53:43 quickdev: other than that u have io needs to load theme data Nov 15 02:53:52 and decompress edje stuff Nov 15 02:53:58 fjss2 loads and decompresses Nov 15 02:54:03 yeah Nov 15 02:54:04 then efl decompresses again Nov 15 02:54:10 raster: sorry, my sarkasm was plainly not as obvious as intended ;] Nov 15 02:54:15 but that's cacheable, isn't it? Nov 15 02:54:18 imho jffs2 should be smarter and know when files are already compressed Nov 15 02:54:22 or more to the point Nov 15 02:54:25 ubifs Nov 15 02:54:27 (in future) Nov 15 02:54:48 quickdev: its always cachable Nov 15 02:54:56 but if it isnt cached - its a load from flash cost Nov 15 02:55:07 if tis cached - then its the same cost irrespective of fs Nov 15 02:55:21 edje still needs to read (mmap) + decompress + decode edje data Nov 15 02:55:26 image data too Nov 15 02:55:36 raster, is it possible to disable the illume "loading" circle for some apps that are starting fast? Nov 15 02:55:44 and then u have to render at lreast your first window of stuff Nov 15 02:55:47 thats also a cost Nov 15 02:56:01 as such i think u quietly end up with 2 renders happenign (and u dont know it) Nov 15 02:56:04 whihc i can avoid Nov 15 02:56:12 hmm Nov 15 02:56:17 illume loading circle has no disable Nov 15 02:56:23 i could do it that it waits a small time Nov 15 02:56:26 like 0.25 sec Nov 15 02:56:29 and then displays it Nov 15 02:56:33 (if app is up it wont bother) Nov 15 02:56:55 that'd remove a render-the-screen- cost Nov 15 02:57:02 a delay isn't very elegant...user would think illume is slow ;) Nov 15 02:57:25 well how do u know if the app is going to start immediately? Nov 15 02:57:29 got a crystal ball? Nov 15 02:57:30 :) Nov 15 02:57:33 what about a custom entry in the .desktop? too dirty? :) Nov 15 02:57:44 can be done Nov 15 02:57:52 but still doesnt guarantee that it starts instantly Nov 15 02:57:55 * quickdev 's apps are always starting immediately Nov 15 02:58:07 also the "wcho to fifo" means the sub-process exist realyl fast Nov 15 02:58:18 so the thing is gone in a fraction of a sec Nov 15 02:58:28 hehe Nov 15 02:58:33 i wouldnt call it start immediately Nov 15 02:58:41 asu pay a continual cost for it being in ram all the time Nov 15 02:58:47 that bit of ram is not available Nov 15 02:58:47 the sub-process exist really fast? mh? Nov 15 02:58:53 raster: thanks for the treo images, btw -- pretty cool. :) Nov 15 02:58:59 a delay would do the job universally Nov 15 02:59:02 and not require hints Nov 15 02:59:13 mwester: cool :) Nov 15 02:59:28 quickdev: i have a massive todo list Nov 15 02:59:33 everyone wants somethng from me Nov 15 02:59:34 :) Nov 15 02:59:45 yeah..my next point on my to do is to sleep Nov 15 02:59:48 right now... busy making e's battery meter use hal if its there Nov 15 02:59:57 this'll remove the need for batget on hal systems **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 15 02:59:57 2008