**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 18 02:59:56 2008 Nov 18 06:03:46 @all: please have a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing , if you suffer from "SIM not working" bug Nov 18 07:05:32 furester: woke up in the morning and had an image :) Nov 18 07:05:35 for the first time Nov 18 07:05:54 wow! Nov 18 07:06:26 indeed i woke up and find some libphonegui-git stuff Nov 18 07:06:34 uhh :( Nov 18 07:06:45 but i have a sources tree not very up to date Nov 18 07:06:58 so i update and run bitbake Nov 18 07:07:15 then i went to take a breakfast Nov 18 07:10:25 i change the wiki and remove the initial warning if it compile fo you Nov 18 07:13:34 furester: yep, should work again Nov 18 07:15:48 mrmoku, I still have some problem on the desktop-pc Nov 18 07:15:59 while laptop is compiling Nov 18 07:16:22 but it is a problem related to my environment Nov 18 07:17:00 it's like gcc can't build executable files Nov 18 07:23:16 hmm... I instead have problems on my laptop :) Nov 18 07:23:34 Did not try for some time now, but it was something x86_64 related... Nov 18 07:23:54 which distro? Nov 18 07:24:46 configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <-- this is the error log for quilt-native Nov 18 07:24:59 the third package or similar Nov 18 07:43:47 furester: sorry, busy working... I use Fedora. Guess I'm trying to build OE images since Fedora 8... Current one is Fedora 10 Preview Nov 18 07:44:07 I'm porting commertical Voip client to openmoko (closed source) could it be integrated to OM dist ? Nov 18 07:44:15 furester: and other stuff compiles fine, I guess? Nov 18 07:45:14 mrmoku, yes, i compile e17 from svn sometimes Nov 18 07:45:20 and it works fine Nov 18 07:46:07 but on this desktop I have a fresh install of Archlinux, maybe I simply forgot a dep somewhere Nov 18 07:46:48 and on that particular desktop e17 compiles? maybe it's some c++ stuff missing? Nov 18 07:48:00 anyway... got to go to the office now... collegues waiting for a meeting :( see you later Nov 18 07:48:03 u dont need c+= for e17 Nov 18 07:48:10 e17 compiles fine, i found http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Prerequisites and I noticed that intltool is missed, i installed it just now Nov 18 07:48:47 raster, e17 compile fine. I have problem with SHR Nov 18 07:48:56 oooh Nov 18 07:51:02 mrmoku, have a good day, see you later! Nov 18 08:18:25 morning Nov 18 09:49:34 Ainulindale: ? Nov 18 09:50:23 Yep? Nov 18 09:51:48 hello Nov 18 09:51:59 I've tested the new release Nov 18 09:52:25 And? Nov 18 09:54:47 aaarrhh I was not able to make a call at all :( Nov 18 09:56:09 strangely it releases call immediately after outgoing Nov 18 09:56:16 (currently cooking a log) Nov 18 09:56:53 hmmm that's weird Nov 18 09:57:25 also SMS Messages app segfaulting... :( too bad Nov 18 09:57:39 ptitjes: that shouldn't happen Nov 18 09:57:52 did you try the image generate at 22h or 00h? Nov 18 09:57:54 +d Nov 18 09:58:14 the latest (tried both in fact) Nov 18 09:58:24 Then it shouldn't happen Nov 18 09:58:36 ptitjes: I'm interested in full debug log for frameworwkd Nov 18 09:58:39 -w Nov 18 10:00:49 by full do you mean with the boot startup ? Nov 18 10:01:26 if yes I'll put my SIM card again in it (had to put it back to my old phone cause I waited for an important call) Nov 18 10:01:34 and start it up again Nov 18 10:01:47 ptitjes: no just log_level=DEBUG in /etc/frameworkd.conf Nov 18 10:03:45 I'm still not confident with hot-installing my SIM card... Nov 18 10:04:57 oups this crashed my device so rebooting Nov 18 10:05:21 BTW isn't there a problem with the battery mettering since the release of the 10th ? Nov 18 10:08:30 I've got lots of messages like : DEBUG no plugin: factory function not found in module <...> Nov 18 10:08:35 what does this mean ? Nov 18 10:09:15 Nothing Nov 18 10:09:39 ok I don't understand but now calling works... Nov 18 10:09:58 I still can't release the call (cause no GUI) but it works Nov 18 10:10:14 ah no segfault :] Nov 18 10:12:29 openmoko-dialer -s a retourné le code de sortie 1. Nov 18 10:12:40 frameworkd.log here: http://pastebin.com/m452a38b6 Nov 18 10:17:22 ptitjes: 2008.11.18 00:16:29 ogsmd.objects INFO org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.CallStatus: 1 active {'status': 'active', 'peer': '123', 'line': 0} Nov 18 10:17:26 no outgoing signal Nov 18 10:19:54 aha, so the timestamps are real :) Nov 18 10:20:39 still the same problem implying the gui doesn't show so Nov 18 10:20:52 lindi-: my date is not set Nov 18 10:21:06 don't have segfault anymore Nov 18 10:21:22 SMS messages working correctly also Nov 18 10:22:11 Ainunlindale: do you know if and how I could contribute the display of the contact caller info ? Nov 18 10:22:29 is there a num2contact function somewhere ? Nov 18 10:22:48 or the opimd code I can't see in git isn't yet in SHR ? Nov 18 10:22:58 s/can't/can/ Nov 18 10:27:14 THe PIM isn't working Nov 18 10:30:56 So how could I do a temporary num2contact function to call from the incomming call screen and incomming SMS screen ? Nov 18 10:35:24 If I understand correctly one of the thing that will do opimd is to index the numbers that it retrieves from ogsmd Nov 18 10:35:28 am I right ? Nov 18 10:37:09 You can't Nov 18 10:37:42 opimd isn't integrated yet and you can't do a num2contact feature without being a pain in the ass relative to frameworkd Nov 18 10:46:41 ouch Nov 18 10:47:23 "without being a pain in the ass relative to frameworkd" ?? Nov 18 10:56:53 ptitjes: you can't request a contact, as is Nov 18 10:57:00 You have to request all the phonebook Nov 18 10:57:03 and parse every contact Nov 18 10:58:23 argh Nov 18 10:58:31 i am get banned from a forum :( Nov 18 11:00:07 Why? :-) Nov 18 11:00:18 Ainulindale: but anyway this has to be done almost once! Nov 18 11:00:35 ptitjes: That'll be done in opimd Nov 18 11:00:53 Ainulindale: because I have told "wii is a flop as console" :D Nov 18 11:01:05 Heh, you're wrong about that :-) Nov 18 11:02:10 So either I contribute to opimd, either I do not... Nov 18 11:02:25 Right now it's the thing to do, IMHO Nov 18 11:02:32 But you should ask mickey|zzZZzz's opinion Nov 18 11:03:46 mickey|zzZZzz: ? Nov 18 11:03:53 He's sleeping (supposedly) Nov 18 11:04:06 oh yes how stupid am I Nov 18 11:04:31 Hi ! I have this message with zone on debian : Nov 18 11:04:32 checking for unsent messages Nov 18 11:04:34 did not receive any unsent messages: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Nov 18 11:04:57 Ainulindale: btw, thank you for helping me with SHR yesterday, it seems to be working fine now. Nov 18 11:05:00 and sms doesn't work ... is it normal ? Nov 18 11:05:30 christophe: are frameworkd and ophoned running? Nov 18 11:05:41 christophe: does http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/dump-sms work? Nov 18 11:06:27 phone calls are working and i try 'dump-sms' Nov 18 11:07:13 in FSO, there's a nice little widget showing the signal strenght in the top right corner of my screen. What should I install to get it in SHR? Nov 18 11:07:40 christophe: after you try dump-sms, do phone calls still work? Nov 18 11:14:39 i have this message : http://pastebin.com/m360e1b87 Nov 18 11:22:00 whoops :)) Nov 18 11:22:47 christophe: redownload Nov 18 11:25:07 Done, error message : http://pastebin.com/m31666b84 Nov 18 11:25:46 ok Nov 18 11:25:56 so it is not replying to your request Nov 18 11:27:23 well, any idea about the cause ? Nov 18 11:29:03 christophe: run frameworkd from xterm Nov 18 11:36:04 i've done it and i've re-run dump-sms, output of frameworkd after the dump-sms call : http://pastebin.com/m5a7854d7 Nov 18 11:36:05 wow I'm reading the python tutorial and I begin to like it (sliced manipulation of arrays and multiple assignements are cool!) Nov 18 11:40:58 ptitjes: it has some nice things yet Nov 18 11:41:03 s/yet/yes/ Nov 18 11:43:50 what I dislike is the need for indentation Nov 18 12:07:54 anybody knows where I can find information on which packages I would need to install on the base image [2008.x] in order to use it as a phone? Nov 18 12:07:58 all I have now is the settings app. Nov 18 12:19:27 Ainulindale Nov 18 12:20:38 http://pastebin.com/m5ac0b422 <-- is okay this patch for you? Nov 18 12:27:30 ah, btw. hire you are the creator of the black theme? (this one http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/4dc340d6661464ca15a0789011cdd3c6.png) Nov 18 12:28:10 no :o Nov 18 12:28:22 pitty :) Nov 18 12:57:55 polz: we disabled the GSM widget when it was causing segfaults Nov 18 12:58:03 polz: just check in illume settings, shelf gadgets Nov 18 12:58:05 and reenable it Nov 18 13:00:08 alphaone: had an issue here, frameworkd crashed, no log about that. Nov 18 13:46:08 Ainulindale: it segfaulted on the first start but seems to be working now.ž Nov 18 13:46:34 Ainulindale: segfaulted? Nov 18 13:55:28 lindi-? Nov 18 13:55:35 lindi-: I don't know Nov 18 13:55:36 No log Nov 18 13:55:40 It just crashed Nov 18 13:55:52 I wasn't in debug unfortunately Nov 18 13:55:58 (reflashed yesterday) Nov 18 13:56:06 I'd like to deploy rotate on the SHR image Nov 18 13:56:14 that'd be a good thing for you to do ptitjes Nov 18 13:56:17 But for now Nov 18 13:56:20 I'm going to grab a smoke Nov 18 13:58:21 Ainulindale: I would need a log... Nov 18 13:59:20 Ainulindale: Can you just start frameworkd from the commandline? Nov 18 13:59:25 And make it crash? Nov 18 14:11:57 what's the difference between light and "fat"? Nov 18 14:12:45 a lot of different software Nov 18 14:12:50 Ainulindale: rotate ? oh why not ? but that would mean I should grab/install the oe&shr git trees, etc... Nov 18 14:12:53 right ? Nov 18 14:13:09 is there a SHR build script like mokomakefile ? Nov 18 14:13:40 max_posedon: namely? -midori Nov 18 14:13:57 bumbl: see http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Get%20Started Nov 18 14:15:21 ah excellent Nov 18 14:15:33 lite is what i want Nov 18 14:19:20 bumbl: it's on the wiki Nov 18 14:19:33 alphaone: Unfortunately it crashed with no apparent reason Nov 18 14:19:45 alphaone: Though it was just after a call Nov 18 14:19:57 alphaone: Now I'm using debug, I'll tell you if it happens again Nov 18 14:21:40 alphaone: what's sure is that I didn't receive the release signal Nov 18 14:21:59 and restarting frameworkd resulted in an error telling me the name was already taken Nov 18 14:22:02 (dbus error) Nov 18 14:22:09 I restarted it a second time and it worked Nov 18 14:23:43 I'll have time tonight to work on some stuff Nov 18 14:23:51 namely the SIM phonebook Nov 18 14:24:04 ptitjes: there's a SHR build script, it's all explained on the wiki Nov 18 14:24:41 bumbl: by the way Nov 18 14:24:45 bumbl: this should be of interest to you Nov 18 14:24:47 http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-overlay.git;a=blob;f=openembedded/packages/images/shr-image.bb;h=e00ece7bb447b8ded6568ca9528f25db3e1d2e15;hb=HEAD Nov 18 14:24:54 (the real differences between shr-lite and shr) Nov 18 14:28:50 Ainulindale: All sounds very strange Nov 18 14:29:05 Ainulindale: Stop using frameworkd, you make it look buggy! :-) Nov 18 14:29:45 alphaone: heh :-) Nov 18 14:29:51 alphaone: but it is buggy Nov 18 14:29:52 And that's normal Nov 18 14:29:58 If there wasn't any bug Nov 18 14:30:02 You'd be bored Nov 18 14:30:51 alphaone: to me anyway this sounds like another oeventsd issue Nov 18 14:30:57 alphaone: it's a pity that opimd and oeventsd are both so necessary Nov 18 14:31:05 Ainulindale: No, I have enough projects anyway Nov 18 14:31:16 Enough to keep me busy for a long time :-) Nov 18 14:31:22 Heh Nov 18 14:31:29 What will you do once your studies will end? :-) Nov 18 14:31:38 Go full time FLOSS enthusiast? :-) Nov 18 14:32:03 Ainulindale: Willing to pay for that? :-) Nov 18 14:32:08 If only Nov 18 14:32:21 Sounds like a very cool idea, though :-) Nov 18 14:32:43 Occupation: full-time FLOSS enthusiast Nov 18 14:33:10 Meh :-) Nov 18 14:33:19 Ainulindale: What's your job btw? Nov 18 14:33:36 Ainulindale: Hanging out here all day implies you awork at a PC :) Nov 18 14:33:46 I'm an IT Security Engineer Nov 18 14:33:50 s/awork/work/ Nov 18 14:33:55 Supposed to work on IAM (Identity & Access Management) Nov 18 14:34:03 These days I'm working on some best practices for sanofi-aventis Nov 18 14:34:03 Ainulindale: Ah, one of the guys stealing our fun ;) Nov 18 14:34:14 Ainulindale: Intersting Nov 18 14:34:16 But I stole them 30 days of work for some days of true work Nov 18 14:34:29 Hehe :-) Nov 18 14:35:22 Though I'd rather work with you guys Nov 18 14:35:23 But well Nov 18 14:35:30 One has to gain some money to pay for his coffee Nov 18 14:35:38 But to be honest Nov 18 14:35:48 These days I spend more time working on SHR than on my real job Nov 18 14:35:58 lol Nov 18 14:36:17 Ainulindale: That's good :) Nov 18 14:36:23 Not that much Nov 18 14:36:29 Ainulindale: that's a nice job. It's the same reason I can hang out here all day *heh* Nov 18 14:36:29 Because quickdev & I are pretty much alone code wise Nov 18 14:36:37 * Kensan_ high-fives Ainulindale Nov 18 14:36:42 5's :-) Nov 18 14:37:07 These days I've been thinking about a way to manage community requests for SHR Nov 18 14:37:10 Ainulindale: hmm, we need to find a way to improve the SHR team. Quantity wise of course Nov 18 14:37:15 Ainulindale: Yeah, you two are our whole UI team. :-) Nov 18 14:37:22 alphaone: Don't insult me please Nov 18 14:37:26 I'm not part of any UI team Nov 18 14:37:28 lol Nov 18 14:37:30 hehe Nov 18 14:37:30 I'd rather die Nov 18 14:37:54 But mw| came back, maybe he'll work on the gtk part Nov 18 14:38:07 That's why I am not interested in SHR code-wise since it's all "UI stuff" *harrharr* Nov 18 14:38:09 It'll be great too if someone was to try and adapt the qt stack to frameworkd Nov 18 14:38:10 okay, well, nice weather out here. Nov 18 14:38:17 * Ainulindale slaps Kensan_ Nov 18 14:38:22 alphaone: are you serious? Nov 18 14:38:38 alphaone: snow is coming... 40 cm by the end of the week here. Nov 18 14:38:40 Kensan_: No, I was just trying to change the subject Nov 18 14:38:44 alphaone: To be serious, I'd rather spend time working on frameworkd than on SHR Nov 18 14:38:55 Right now I'm doing awful stuff, trying to pick bitbake recipes, or make them Nov 18 14:38:55 alphaone: oh ic. Yeah weather is ehm.. nice. Nov 18 14:38:57 ;) Nov 18 14:39:02 It doesn't *really* snow much here :-( Nov 18 14:39:03 Or doing the evangelist Nov 18 14:39:12 I'd like to go snowboarding Nov 18 14:39:13 alphaone: where do you live? Nov 18 14:39:15 I never posted so much Nov 18 14:39:37 Kensan_: Braunschweig, Germany Nov 18 14:39:39 alphaone: 10 minutes and I can be on the next slope :) Nov 18 14:39:41 And as I'm quite "violent" in my way to talk, I'm afraid that the users will end up hating me :-) Nov 18 14:39:51 Ainulindale: Well, it's par for the course. Nov 18 14:40:06 We welcome frameworkd contributers as well :-) Nov 18 14:40:10 I know, I know Nov 18 14:40:26 But I won't launch myself in that kind of thing without any kind of help Nov 18 14:40:32 alphaone: Is "I don't know Python" a good enough excuse? *hehe* Nov 18 14:40:35 I.e. I'd love to work on opimd Nov 18 14:40:42 But when you start on a new thing Nov 18 14:40:43 Kensan_: oh, that's cool (slope) Nov 18 14:40:48 it's always better to have people telling you what to do Nov 18 14:40:58 right Nov 18 14:41:19 I'm not fluent enough with your stuff to be confident enough with my changes/wishes Nov 18 14:41:20 alphaone, hi, evening....about subsecond accuracy in the input event signal, what would the signal look like.. (me not having access to FR right now) Nov 18 14:41:36 alphaone: right now, to me, the biggest issue though is the lack of outgoing signal Nov 18 14:41:40 This is a major showstopper for us Nov 18 14:41:49 Sup3rkiddo: Doesn't change anything in the signal Nov 18 14:42:03 Only makes the time the button has been pressed accurate. Nov 18 14:42:04 alphaone: well the FSO team should do a hack sprint with some skiing/snowboarding here in CH :) Nov 18 14:42:34 alphaone, so its still int.. Nov 18 14:42:59 Say you press the button at 12:01:44.7 seconds, then release it at 12:01:45.1 -> before that patch it would register as one second Nov 18 14:43:31 Kensan_: That sounds like an excellent idea to me :-) Nov 18 14:43:35 mickey|zzZZzz: Nov 18 14:43:46 Sup3rkiddo: Yes Nov 18 14:44:04 alphaone, danke Nov 18 14:44:07 Sup3rkiddo: But internally to calculate the int it uses floats Nov 18 14:44:16 Sup3rkiddo: np Nov 18 14:44:21 alphaone, and rounds it off... Nov 18 14:44:30 right Nov 18 14:44:50 alphaone: rounded or is the decimal part simply dropped? Nov 18 14:44:56 which is what you want I suppose Nov 18 14:45:14 you don't want a press of 1.5 seconds to register as 2 Nov 18 14:45:21 floor() Nov 18 14:45:27 yeha Nov 18 14:45:37 actually the int() cast does that Nov 18 14:45:54 >>> int(1.9) -> 1 Nov 18 14:46:56 mickey|zzZZzz: Hi. Another questions WRT frameworkd versioning. If 0.8.4.3 is milestone4, what would be the best number for a version built from stabilization/milestone4 with 10 additional patches? 0.8.4.3.10? Or is the .3 already a counter for the stabilization branch? Nov 18 14:47:28 nomeata: 0.8.4.4 should be it Nov 18 14:48:18 mickey|zzZZzz: But I'll bump frameworkd to 0.8.4.4 for ms4.1 Nov 18 14:48:20 alphaone: was just asking for the sake of clarity because this could be a cause for subtle bugs/problems... Nov 18 14:48:29 i.e. the updated, mp3-free image Nov 18 14:48:40 mickey|zzZZzz: so if I do snapshots for a Debian package, I just add one to the last number, and if you add them to the FSO image, you’ll do the same, with the possibility of having the same version mean different things in FSO and Debian? Nov 18 14:49:02 Kensan_: Yeah, it's good Nov 18 14:49:26 .. I could just do 0.8.4.3-20081118, of course. Nov 18 14:49:37 nomeata: Don't you have some sort of extra versioning scheme for debian patches? Nov 18 14:49:38 nomeata: we usually don't add the version nmber within milestones, this is an exception since we were forced to rebuild Nov 18 14:49:43 mickey|zzZZzz: is "etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/phone/silent.yaml:# Those values are just here to test the preferences service" correct and there is no way to make the phone silent? Nov 18 14:49:44 s/add/increment/ Nov 18 14:49:56 mickey|zzZZzz: (did git pull on master branch) Nov 18 14:50:05 lindi-: no idea, i didn't look at preferences for quite a while Nov 18 14:50:09 mickey|zzZZzz: ok Nov 18 14:50:11 mickey|zzZZzz, hi, evening Nov 18 14:50:22 mickey|zzZZzz: making the phone silent would be one of the last missing pieces i need Nov 18 14:50:22 mickey|zzZZzz: This is an exception since bitbakes handling of hashed revisions is bad Nov 18 14:50:27 with charlie being gone, someone else needs to look into that Nov 18 14:50:29 that's the root cause Nov 18 14:50:38 ok, I’ll go via dates, has the lowest chance for confusion :-) Nov 18 14:50:59 alphaone: i find BB_GIT_CLONE_FOR_SRCREV = "1" Nov 18 14:50:59 working quite nice Nov 18 14:51:01 hi Sup3rkiddo Nov 18 14:51:13 lindi-: perhaps it already works, worth a test Nov 18 14:51:17 mickey|zzZZzz: As I said, that only works when building autorev Nov 18 14:51:26 oh Nov 18 14:51:31 Not when using sane-srcrevs Nov 18 14:51:36 i see, bummer Nov 18 14:51:37 mickey|zzZZzz: i don't have ms4 yet Nov 18 14:51:47 mickey|zzZZzz: zecke sent suggestions about that to oe-devel Nov 18 14:51:50 lindi-: I’m just building the package to upload :-) Nov 18 14:52:13 But there was some resistance and I think he's not too happy about that Nov 18 14:52:20 maybe you could support him there Nov 18 14:53:06 quickdev, I think that's time to add gettext support in libframeword-phonegui-efl .. do you have a plan to do that? Nov 18 14:53:07 Because I regard the current state more as a bug then his fixes as a feature enhancement. Nov 18 14:53:15 furester: that's not a priority Nov 18 14:53:23 furester, come and and help us :) Nov 18 14:53:41 furester: first, stability in features & such Nov 18 14:53:44 then i18n Nov 18 14:53:45 I had some lines in dialer and it seems to compile Nov 18 14:54:04 but if you prefer i can freeze that changes Nov 18 14:54:18 and try what you suggest me Nov 18 14:55:01 furester: if you're interested yourself in producing a way to use gettext I'm interested in that Nov 18 14:55:03 furester, you could get git access if you can contribute :) Nov 18 14:55:07 But let my little quickdev focus on the other stuff :-p Nov 18 14:55:40 i'll send you or hire some patches asap and you can try that if you like Nov 18 14:55:55 then include that patches in git branch Nov 18 14:56:00 great Nov 18 14:56:19 speaking about git access we will see about that when patches are done Nov 18 14:56:20 quickdev: I'm currently working on the reconnection feature Nov 18 14:56:32 Ainulindale, ophonekitd reconnection? Nov 18 14:56:38 yep Nov 18 14:56:40 stability improvement, great Nov 18 14:56:45 yep yep :-) Nov 18 14:56:52 I'll trigger it automatically on dbus not available Nov 18 14:57:03 i want to try SHR, is the latest testing image http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 a good choice? Nov 18 14:57:09 Zorkman: yes Nov 18 14:57:16 thx Nov 18 14:57:23 Dolby Nov 18 14:58:17 Ainulindale, what about creating a "Latest previews" page that points to the latest images? Nov 18 14:59:02 Hire, could you do that and have a look look once a week? :) Nov 18 14:59:15 quickdev: feel free to do that Nov 18 15:00:43 yeah Nov 18 15:00:45 for me it is ok Nov 18 15:00:49 :) Nov 18 15:00:57 great :) Nov 18 15:01:22 but... Nov 18 15:01:26 i have a problem with commit Nov 18 15:01:31 when I do git commit -a Nov 18 15:01:47 it seems to be ok but I don't see the changes into the branch Nov 18 15:02:14 Damn, conf call, again Nov 18 15:02:18 Hire: git push Nov 18 15:02:31 git push URL BRANCH Nov 18 15:02:39 git push will be enough Nov 18 15:02:39 ah :) Nov 18 15:02:50 i know only svn and cvs :) Nov 18 15:02:51 he cloned with the correct URL IIRC Nov 18 15:03:21 error: Cannot access URL http://shr.bearstech.com/repo/shr.git/, return code 22 Nov 18 15:04:01 Hire: git push git@shr.bearstech.com:shr.git Nov 18 15:04:57 Ainulindale, hrr ;) Nov 18 15:05:13 arhhh Nov 18 15:09:52 i did itttttttttttt Nov 18 15:09:53 ahhhh Nov 18 15:10:05 my first commit ( two commits :o ) into shr >_< Nov 18 15:13:40 and after these commits shr has stopped compiling Nov 18 15:13:50 ahahahah no just joking :D Nov 18 15:15:16 :/ Nov 18 15:21:10 chrysn: hi. do you use auxlaunch? Nov 18 15:33:16 i don't tested gps on SHR.. Nov 18 15:33:20 it works? Nov 18 15:33:20 Hire: yep Nov 18 15:33:35 nice Nov 18 15:33:52 ah, Ainulindale, I don't get a ui with navit :) Nov 18 15:36:29 Ainulindale: what should one do if the shr build script doesn't work? Nov 18 15:37:09 Hire: the default navit.xml is wrong Nov 18 15:37:12 polz: ask me to help him Nov 18 15:37:40 Hire: locate the first plugin line Nov 18 15:37:41 replace .so by .so* Nov 18 15:38:35 Ainulindale: Is this a general problem with navit in OE? Nov 18 15:38:39 Yep Nov 18 15:39:00 I would have told you that, had I some time to spare Nov 18 15:39:09 But I'm on the phone with sanofi-aventis right now Nov 18 15:39:20 With a weird headset which makes me look as if I were a star trek character Nov 18 15:39:44 oh I see :) Nov 18 15:40:57 Ainulindale: OK, so, I'm trying to build SHR and it fails. I'll get you the error message in a few minutes. Nov 18 15:42:20 Ok then I'll answer as soon as my call will end Nov 18 15:43:43 Ainulindale: start breathing heavily into the receiver, that usually does the trick ;) Nov 18 15:43:44 hmm, anyone familiar with oe here..am stuck with this, http://dpaste.com/91746/ Nov 18 15:43:45 Ainulindale, I was unable to to bitbake my image, too. It's a pity because I cannot develop properly without it. Could you please have a look? I think I had that error before but I don't remember the solution. I build from scratch: http://rafb.net/p/QEGsRY99.html Nov 18 15:44:10 [off-topic|python] I can see one can rebind methods in an object - this makes me wondering if there are aspect-oriented libraries in python ? Nov 18 15:44:40 quickdev: git pull && bitbake -c clean ophonekitd && bitbake ophonekitd won't work, of course? Nov 18 15:45:57 Sup3rkiddo: did you try to clean and rebuild - this worked a lot of time for me with oe (don't ask why I can't answer... :)) Nov 18 15:46:19 ptitjes, yeah i did :(, got it all of a sudden out of the blue.... Nov 18 15:46:37 quickdev, cc1: error: ophonekitd-main.d: No such file or directory, it has to be ophonekitd-main.c you can change it in .bb file Nov 18 15:46:50 but i think that is has to be update in git Nov 18 15:46:50 quickdev: that's not in the bb file Nov 18 15:47:38 nomeata? Nov 18 15:47:45 Ainulindale: yes? Nov 18 15:48:17 nomeata: we migrated to git Nov 18 15:48:31 Ainulindale, what is not in the bb file? Nov 18 15:48:31 you can package our stuff for debian if you want to Nov 18 15:48:31 the .d file, it was an answer for furester Nov 18 15:49:26 Ainulindale: nice, thx Nov 18 15:53:02 nomeata: if you need to produce some packaging info, I can open a branch for that Nov 18 15:53:21 Ainulindale: I’ll do that on alioth then, if that’s ok Nov 18 15:53:34 alioth? Nov 18 15:53:49 We use git on shr, if you're interested Nov 18 15:53:49 Ainulindale, I was not up to date with openembedded (org.openembedded.dev). Will see if that changes anything. Nov 18 15:54:24 quickdev: hope so. Still on the phone here Nov 18 15:55:58 Ainulindale: Alioth is the forge for Debian teams, including git support – it’s where all the pkg-fso-packages have a git repository. Nov 18 15:56:17 Ok then nomeata :-) Nov 18 15:58:05 nomeata: btw, is there a howto I can read if I want to set up a cross-compile environment so I could build my own debian packages for the gta01? Nov 18 15:58:29 polz: only the notes on http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO Nov 18 16:00:07 nomeata: I can't see anything about cross-compiling there. Nov 18 16:01:02 Ainulindale, argh..qemu-native fails Nov 18 16:01:11 polz: it used to be there (basically information about setting up qemubuilder) Nov 18 16:02:22 Ainulindale, I should compile all other packages before. Will try. Nov 18 16:03:04 Ainulindale, is the latest openembedded repo working with rasters patches? Nov 18 16:03:10 *yawn* Nov 18 16:03:10 nomeata: it's under http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner Nov 18 16:03:20 i am going to home Nov 18 16:03:20 polz: indeed, I removed it there once. See http://wiki.debian.org/pkg-fso?action=recall&rev=33 for it Nov 18 16:03:30 polz: oh, I moved it? well, allright then :-) Nov 18 16:03:59 Ainulindale, fix: ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" Nov 18 16:04:32 ugh... Nov 18 16:05:15 so you're supposed to run the compiler in qemu, emulating a strongarm? That's going to be sloooooooooooooooow :/ Nov 18 16:08:05 how much slooooooooooooooooooowwwwwww? Nov 18 16:08:13 quickdev: some aren't, some are, but all in all they'll apply Nov 18 16:09:35 nomeata: maybe you could also add a link to http://www.scratchbox.org/ and hope someone manages to figure that one out :) Nov 18 16:10:35 polz: well, I think scratchbox is a differnet approach. Note that Debian does not really support crosscompiling, so qemu is the only sensible “official” choice for now Nov 18 16:11:00 polz: The Emdebian guys are working on proper cross-compilation, but I haven’t looked in to that yet. Nov 18 16:11:36 hmm.. I'm surscribed to that list, maybe I should start paying more attention to the messages :P Nov 18 16:12:15 AFAIK they were mostly working on separating the documentation from the rest of the packages and on porting Debian to uclibc Nov 18 16:13:50 Ainulindale: I'm doing what this document is telling me to: http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Building SHR Nov 18 16:14:56 and the oe-patches.sh reports most of the patches are failing. I would complain to raster, but I can't see him here right now :) Nov 18 16:15:07 the shr image, does it come with all modules, or should i extrach the package that is in http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ I am using uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin & shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Nov 18 16:18:43 polz: that's normal Nov 18 16:19:01 polz: some of them were included in OE Nov 18 16:19:36 OK, I am now proceeding to "make image". Yesterday, this failed with gtk-engine-fastscale, I think Nov 18 16:20:13 this should take a while to download. Nov 18 16:20:53 Ainulindale: maybe you should go home to your GF before trying to help me out here :) Nov 18 16:21:03 She's not here tonight Nov 18 16:21:35 Ainulindale: btw, IMHO, you deserve some sort of prise from Openmoko for what you're doing here. Nov 18 16:22:18 That's not what I'm looking for, nor it is what I'll ask for Nov 18 16:22:21 If they want to cover us in gold, let them do it Nov 18 16:22:44 I'm trying to build shr-testing and it's complaining about the preferred versions of some packages not being available Nov 18 16:22:50 polz: doesn't matter Nov 18 16:22:55 Don't worry about that :-) Nov 18 16:23:19 yeah, it's unbelievable how much spare time Ainulindale invests :) Nov 18 16:23:20 Ainulindale: are you a sexy girl? Because if you aren't I'm against your idea ;). Nov 18 16:23:36 polz: I'm a bearded geek Nov 18 16:23:59 cc1: error: ophonekitd-main.d: No such file or directory Nov 18 16:23:59 make[2]: *** [ophonekitd-main.o] Error 1 Nov 18 16:24:08 quickdev: someone here had this problem Nov 18 16:24:25 argh. I should have written down the solution. Nov 18 16:24:25 I don't right now Nov 18 16:24:25 I had it. Nov 18 16:24:26 hehe.. can you imagine James Bond investigating the murder of a pot-bellied, bearded geek? Now that would be a sight you'd never be able to forget ;). Nov 18 16:24:26 quickdev: try mrproper and clean again Nov 18 16:24:26 * mrmoku is thinking about where to find some gold Nov 18 16:24:27 and remove the stamps Nov 18 16:24:27 I did it...10 times Nov 18 16:24:45 stamps..that might be it Nov 18 16:24:46 yep perhaps configure failed somehow Nov 18 16:25:07 Ainulindale, clean and mrproper do not remove stamps? Nov 18 16:25:08 no Nov 18 16:25:08 what are stamps for? .) Nov 18 16:25:16 mrmoku: you could try scraping it off the connectors of old ISA cards :P Nov 18 16:25:16 They're there to know where you stopped in your build process Nov 18 16:25:44 polz: do you remember which are the common errors we encounter where ophonekitd crashes? Nov 18 16:25:44 By the way, quickdev Nov 18 16:25:51 I can't create a contact Nov 18 16:25:51 It'll fail Nov 18 16:25:51 SIM FULL Nov 18 16:25:51 heh, could find some in the basement. I don't think it would be enough for Ainulindale though ;) Nov 18 16:26:40 Ainulindale: I just remember it crashed because it couldn't find the battery Nov 18 16:26:40 polz: gta01? Nov 18 16:26:44 Ainulindale: yes. Nov 18 16:26:48 Known problem indeed Nov 18 16:27:05 Ainulindale: other than that, it seems to work for me Nov 18 16:27:13 polz: though I don't know how to fix that Nov 18 16:27:14 That's because the default bat device is gta01_battery and not bat Nov 18 16:27:15 Though mwester or was it mickey|zzZZzz told me it was fixed Nov 18 16:27:23 Ainulindale: you don't let it go to suspend, remember? Nov 18 16:27:24 That's not a fix Nov 18 16:27:28 That's a workaround Nov 18 16:27:39 I think it was mwester who said it was fixed in the latest kernels. Nov 18 16:28:12 I'd have to go through the logs to be sure. And I seem to vaguely remember you asking how to build the latest kernels or something Nov 18 16:28:58 I saw mwesters patch about renaming it on the kernel list Nov 18 16:29:07 but it's not yet included in stable kernel Nov 18 16:29:37 It's uploading to http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html right now. Nov 18 16:30:04 mwester: any way to set a srcrev for that? Nov 18 16:30:22 mwester: or would you like to build a linux-kernel-mwester bb recipe with me? Nov 18 16:30:59 hehe, the funny thing is, I don't even want the phone to suspend on it's own Nov 18 16:31:21 to the first question: not until andy commits the name-change patch. to the second question: I'd rather do that only if absolutely required, because that would be yet another step in the direction of a fork. :( Nov 18 16:31:32 mwester: I can understand that :-) Nov 18 16:31:39 polz: Hmpf Nov 18 16:31:41 polz: Now I hate you Nov 18 16:31:53 Ok then I'll modify exposure to do that :-) Nov 18 16:32:12 Ainulindale: I'd gladly test it, don't worryy Nov 18 16:32:17 Though I'd like to make the timeouts persistent Nov 18 16:32:57 Ainulindale: it's just that GPS also loses tracking if the main CPU suspends and for me, pressing a button to suspend isn't too much of a hassle. Nov 18 16:33:14 polz: to that I have a solution Nov 18 16:33:24 Ainulindale: oooh, do tell, do tell :) Nov 18 16:33:29 Ainulindale: I was thinking about that problem; we need to speak with mickey|zzZZzz Nov 18 16:33:30 polz: use oeventsd Nov 18 16:33:30 mwester: I think a mwester kernel would be fine since that would put pressure on om's stock kernel if the mwester kernel would be more popular. So it would be an additional incentive to merge these changes. Nov 18 16:33:44 to do what? Nov 18 16:34:06 Ainulindale, we really need something to disable suspend. SHR cannot be used as a gps device :( Nov 18 16:34:06 polz: on GPS resource status change, if status is true, then suspend timeout = 0 Nov 18 16:34:10 quickdev: just thinking about that now Nov 18 16:34:28 I'll try to build a rule for that Nov 18 16:34:41 If I can't, I'll modify ophonekitd Nov 18 16:35:01 Ainulindale: OK, that might work, but it's not really a feature I'm yearning for, unlike a working opimd ;) Nov 18 16:35:06 polz: same here Nov 18 16:35:10 Ok I can't put a dbus action Nov 18 16:35:11 mwester: it would only make sense if there actually are bigger changes... but keeping an additional kernel-bb in an overlay seems fair. Nov 18 16:35:22 That's a pity Nov 18 16:35:22 Then i'll modify ophonekitd Nov 18 16:36:33 Ainulindale, btw..I was asked to include the python-elementary bb recipe into SHR? Have you heard of that? Nov 18 16:37:22 Ainulindale: you could use Command() and call mdbus, couldn't you? Nov 18 16:37:43 mrmoku: that's not a good thing Nov 18 16:37:44 quickdev: no Nov 18 16:38:21 Ainulindale: That line we spoke of yesterday that ensures that there are no active calls and that the phone is not charging -- can that line be abstracted into a YAML rule? Nov 18 16:38:33 mwester: it could, yes Nov 18 16:38:37 ahh, it's finally failed Nov 18 16:38:42 mwester: I'm going to implement it ASAP Nov 18 16:38:55 I am able to express my concern about that line today; I seemed to have some problems yesterday... Nov 18 16:39:58 /home/polz/openmoko/SHR/shr-testing/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/qemu-native-0.9.1-r7/q Nov 18 16:39:58 emu-0.9.1/linux-user/syscall.c:4654: warning: cast to pointer from integer of di Nov 18 16:39:58 fferent size Nov 18 16:39:58 The use case is an external charger of some sort, such as a solar panel charger -- in that case the USB is not enumerated, and we *do* wish the phone to suspend so as to minimize power consumption. Nov 18 16:40:07 sorry about the linebreaks Nov 18 16:40:16 Ainulindale: any ideas? Nov 18 16:40:24 mwester: problem is Nov 18 16:40:35 So I think I need to find some easy way to determine if the USB port is actually being used for something more than just charging -- and that may be difficult. Nov 18 16:40:37 There's currently no way to check both powerstatus and idlestate Nov 18 16:40:48 polz: that's a warning, not an error Nov 18 16:40:50 oops, the actual problem was some "dereferencing pointer of incomplete cast" Nov 18 16:41:18 in the same file Nov 18 16:41:28 mwester: we don't check for USB actually Nov 18 16:41:41 mwester: we just check if bat is charging or full Nov 18 16:41:41 In any case, it will suffice for the moment,but it would be very nice to be able to call out to an external source to "get permission" to suspend (dbus call, or test the return code of an external command even) Nov 18 16:41:53 mwester: well anyway, just checked oeventsd rules Nov 18 16:42:06 You can either trigger an event on powerstatus or idlestate Nov 18 16:42:06 and it starts with linux/dirent.h : no such file or dir. Nov 18 16:42:19 power status will tell you full/charging/etc Nov 18 16:42:20 idle state will tell you suspend Nov 18 16:42:33 I suspect the paralel compilation might not be handling the dependencies correctly Nov 18 16:42:33 there's no way I know about to have the two events at the same time currently Nov 18 16:42:35 Or get the power status in a rule Nov 18 16:43:37 So the only way, right now, to be able to do that, is to check outside of oeventsd Nov 18 16:43:37 It's a pity, but it's like that Nov 18 16:46:25 Ainulindale, where are stamps located? Nov 18 16:46:33 polz: I also ran into that linux/dirent.h error Nov 18 16:46:42 tmp/stamps Nov 18 16:46:42 Sorry but right now my connection is borking a lot Nov 18 16:46:50 mrmoku: how did you solve it? Nov 18 16:47:11 add a link from /usr/include/dirent.h to /usr/include/linux/dirent.h Nov 18 16:48:12 hmm.. that sounds wrong. I'd rather install the neccessary linux-headers Nov 18 16:48:13 polz: just curious, what distro are you compiling on, F10? Nov 18 16:48:30 mrmoku: Ubuntu 8.10 Nov 18 16:48:54 as far as I remember my googling results it moved and qemu is not yet adjusted Nov 18 16:49:07 on my Fedora 10 systems it's in /usr/include/dirent.h Nov 18 16:49:15 the older ones have /usr/include/linux/dirent.h Nov 18 16:50:44 polz: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1354185 Nov 18 16:53:12 how come that patch still hasn't made it's way into the repository?? Nov 18 16:54:07 almost one month old - good question ;) Nov 18 16:54:33 maybe it's just shr-testing that's set to use the older version. Ainulindale, what's your oppinion? Nov 18 16:55:06 s/pp/p/ Nov 18 16:55:37 My opinion is Nov 18 16:55:39 I'm quite busy Nov 18 16:55:56 My bank account was blocked by my former school on the grounds I didn't pay for my tuition Nov 18 16:56:01 Which I did Nov 18 16:56:01 I just received the check proving it Nov 18 16:56:12 So let me have a bit of "me" time please :-p Nov 18 16:56:14 :) Nov 18 16:56:41 (I spent the week waiting for that) Nov 18 16:56:41 hehe Nov 18 16:56:41 Ainulindale: first of all, leave IRC, save your soul Nov 18 16:56:54 (I'm looking for a good picture of a middle finger raised to the sky) Nov 18 16:56:59 (To send my best to the accountant) Nov 18 16:57:08 IRC is a beast which devours your mind and makes your fingers and eyes hurt as if they were being pierced with needles ;) Nov 18 16:57:18 Ainulindale: you've got it all wrong. Nov 18 16:58:01 Ainulindale: the accountant doesn't hate you. He/she is just doing the job he/she is paid for. Nov 18 16:58:12 I know, that was a figure of speech Nov 18 16:58:25 I met with her Nov 18 16:58:30 But she told me she looked for the check, and didn't find it Nov 18 16:58:34 Ainulindale: yeah, but it really doesn't make sense to get mad at them. Nov 18 16:58:39 Unfortunately my bank says this doesn't make sense Nov 18 16:58:55 polz: I don't, and won't :-) Nov 18 16:58:56 polz: but just picture the facts Nov 18 16:58:56 You wake up Nov 18 16:59:08 You check your bank account Nov 18 16:59:08 It's at -1000 euros Nov 18 16:59:12 You can't take money from an other account Nov 18 16:59:23 Because all of your accounts are blocked Nov 18 16:59:27 On the ground you didn't pay something you paid Nov 18 16:59:36 It's not something to be happy about Nov 18 16:59:38 Especially when you have to pay your rent, taxes Nov 18 16:59:55 (And a crapload of beer) Nov 18 17:00:23 I can imagine that. Maybe you could sue them for the inconvenience :) Nov 18 17:00:31 I could, but I won't Nov 18 17:00:34 I'm already suing my ex landlord Nov 18 17:00:51 btw, how much did the tuition cost? Nov 18 17:00:57 (I lived without lights & heat for 6 months) Nov 18 17:01:09 1000 euros Nov 18 17:01:09 (public school) Nov 18 17:01:36 ugh. I'm glad we're still living in a socialist state here Nov 18 17:01:37 Ainulindale: does the kernel on the SHR download page differ from the one that comes with FSO? Nov 18 17:01:38 polz: that's because it's an engineering school Nov 18 17:02:05 polz: For college it's about 300 euros Nov 18 17:02:09 with the social security Nov 18 17:02:09 nomeata: no idea Nov 18 17:02:10 I'd say no Nov 18 17:02:12 ok Nov 18 17:02:26 Ainulindale: here, you only have to pay if you don't fit the admission criteria. Nov 18 17:02:48 polz: here it depends on your family money and such Nov 18 17:03:25 Ainulindale: too bad you can't get whoever in your family is earning too much to pay for your tuition :) Nov 18 17:03:57 polz: that's not even that Nov 18 17:03:58 My parents are teacher Nov 18 17:04:03 Ainulindale: anyway, get lost, take some time for yourself, otherwise we'll take _another_ day of your life ;) Nov 18 17:04:17 alphaone: got the problem again Nov 18 17:04:19 can't release the call Nov 18 17:04:47 But it could be a SHR problem Nov 18 17:05:44 alphaone: though oeventsd seems to be totally borked Nov 18 17:05:47 stopped there Nov 18 17:05:48 2008.11.19 18:02:25 odeviced.audio DEBUG got task: stop (dbus.String(u'/usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid'),) Nov 18 17:05:55 no more logs Nov 18 17:05:55 no more events Nov 18 17:06:11 And the ringtone didn't even play Nov 18 17:06:14 I answered quickly Nov 18 17:06:31 what profile should i select when first booting shr? Nov 18 17:06:33 illume Nov 18 17:07:16 mickey|sofa: I'd like to make my recent changes in the idle notifier persistent, how could I do that, O master? Nov 18 17:07:53 that means using untested infrastructure :) Nov 18 17:08:06 you can set config values and safe the config Nov 18 17:08:10 take a look at the SmartConfig calss Nov 18 17:08:19 class, even Nov 18 17:08:19 mickey|sofa: is this the way to go? Nov 18 17:08:19 yes Nov 18 17:08:20 Ok then I'll do that Nov 18 17:08:36 I want to fix the suspend while GPS is active thing here Nov 18 17:08:55 And the "don't want to suspend" Nov 18 17:08:59 mickey|sofa Nov 18 17:09:03 do you have news on opimd? :) Nov 18 17:09:04 mickey|sofa: and then frameworkd will write to /etc/frameworkd.conf, or somewhere else? Nov 18 17:09:24 the icons are still blur? Nov 18 17:09:27 Hire: unfortunately not, still waiting for abraxa to appear from uni stress Nov 18 17:09:43 nomeata: to the conf file it has found, yeah Nov 18 17:09:43 OK python is cool! Nov 18 17:09:47 ptitjes: indeed Nov 18 17:09:47 yield is so nice! Nov 18 17:09:50 yea Nov 18 17:09:50 mickey|sofa: is there a use case already for that? Nov 18 17:10:08 BluesLee: I have did the commit but ainu needs to regenerate the ipks :) Nov 18 17:10:17 Ainulindale: no Nov 18 17:10:30 Ainulindale: you're the first to make frameworkd write settings Nov 18 17:10:30 but the infrastructure is there since day 1 Nov 18 17:10:37 Hmmm Nov 18 17:10:37 ptitjes: python would be cool, *if* one could replace the silly indentation with proper braces. :-) Nov 18 17:10:59 Should I instantiate a class everytime then mickey|sofa ? Nov 18 17:10:59 or save it somewhere? Nov 18 17:11:11 Is there any constant for the conf file? Nov 18 17:11:11 mwester: yes this is the last grief i have against it Nov 18 17:11:12 And how old is the captain? Nov 18 17:11:12 config is a singleton Nov 18 17:11:16 from frameworkd.config import config Nov 18 17:11:32 52 Nov 18 17:11:36 config.foo Nov 18 17:11:36 ptitjes: wrong answer Nov 18 17:11:37 42 is the key Nov 18 17:11:41 mickey|sofa: and then setvalue and such Nov 18 17:11:41 grrrr :( Nov 18 17:11:41 Ainulindale: yep Nov 18 17:11:42 ~indentation Nov 18 17:11:50 hmm, no bot here Nov 18 17:12:09 [indentation] let me quote Donald E. Knuth on that: 'We will perhaps eventually be writing only small modules which are identified by name as they are used to build larger ones, so that devices like indentation, rather than delimiters, might become feasible for expressing local structure in the source language.' Nov 18 17:12:09 mickey|sofa: got a weird issue here Nov 18 17:12:12 2008.11.19 18:02:25 odeviced.audio DEBUG got task: stop (dbus.String(u'/usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid'),) Nov 18 17:12:21 See the timestamp Nov 18 17:12:21 I'm touching the screen now Nov 18 17:12:22 It wakes up Nov 18 17:12:27 Still no log Nov 18 17:12:40 Let's install pydev Nov 18 17:12:40 I think oeventsd borked totally Nov 18 17:12:58 mickey|sofa: no special info, it borked two times like that today Nov 18 17:13:20 * mwester thinks Donald wasn't familiar with the issues caused by spaces vs tabs. ;) Nov 18 17:13:31 mwester: of course he wasn't Nov 18 17:13:31 he's a duck Nov 18 17:13:48 there is no issue Nov 18 17:13:52 code in python? use spaces. that's it :) Nov 18 17:13:53 mickey|sofa, just been wondering, do you want to load .so's from python or is the other way round? Nov 18 17:14:25 are there any changelogs on the website? Nov 18 17:14:39 Sup3rkiddo: i found the idea appealing that we can do both Nov 18 17:15:03 mickey|sofa: does this seem right? config.setValue("[odeviced.idlenotifier]",state,timeout); Nov 18 17:15:26 Ainulindale: looks good to me Nov 18 17:15:26 numptyphisics seems to be broken in the latest shr Nov 18 17:15:26 Except I should use MODULE_NAME IIRc Nov 18 17:15:42 mickey|sofa, oh, ok..so shall i continue hacking around the "vala code which loads python modules" then Nov 18 17:15:46 root@om-gta02 /usr/share/applications $ DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -o 3 && numptyphysics -geometry 640x480; xrandr -o 0 Nov 18 17:15:46 *** CAUGHT: Unable to set video mode Nov 18 17:15:46 Can't open display Nov 18 17:15:52 Sup3rkiddo: as it stands though, we need to sit down and think about it the whole mixing vala and python Nov 18 17:16:14 Sup3rkiddo: i still need to answer your mail. Nov 18 17:16:21 Zorkman: please use pastebin Nov 18 17:16:36 i guess it'd be good if we could start a new discussion wrt. to the frameworkd future architecture on smartphones-userland Nov 18 17:16:36 and export DISPLAY=":0" Nov 18 17:16:44 mickey|sofa, ah ok...please do keep me in the loop, my exams are almost done, got one on december 1..after that, i am pretty free Nov 18 17:17:07 mickey|sofa, right..acknowledged Nov 18 17:17:22 Sup3rkiddo: ok, pretty cool! i'll get something started on smartphones-userland and then you can update us on the state of the vala impl. Nov 18 17:17:24 Ainulindale: why ":0"? Nov 18 17:17:24 quickdev? Nov 18 17:17:26 then we find out the best way to move forward Nov 18 17:17:30 BluesLee: because this is the display id Nov 18 17:17:31 Ainulindale, ? Nov 18 17:17:58 mickey|sofa, great..sounds fun Nov 18 17:18:03 mickey|sofa: 2008.11.19 18:16:40 frameworkd.controller ERROR dbus bus name org.freesmartphone.frameworkd already claimed. Exiting. Nov 18 17:18:12 after the error I talked about Nov 18 17:18:20 Ainulindale: works without "" for me Nov 18 17:18:20 quickdev: did you modify exposure for suspend handling? Nov 18 17:18:24 BluesLee: quotes are an old habit Nov 18 17:18:25 mickey|sofa: trying to restart Nov 18 17:18:30 okay Nov 18 17:18:32 Ainulindale, I haven't modified exposure for suspend handling yet ( you mean shr-settings, right? ) Nov 18 17:18:45 mickey|sofa: it seems it's hanging on oeventsd/stop ringtone Nov 18 17:18:45 Ainulindale: http://pastebin.com/m7e8f6750 Nov 18 17:18:52 quickdev: yeah Nov 18 17:19:00 Zorkman: I won't look at your pastebin but I bet you should do opkg install libpng3 Nov 18 17:19:12 exposure = om Nov 18 17:19:12 Ainulindale: deadlock? Nov 18 17:19:13 om-settings = shr-settings Nov 18 17:19:13 And looking at it I'm right Nov 18 17:19:20 all calls should be async there Nov 18 17:19:33 mickey|sofa: If I can reproduce this I'll tell you Nov 18 17:19:37 k Nov 18 17:20:01 root@om-gta02 ~ $ kill 1535 Nov 18 17:20:01 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ps auxw | grep fram Nov 18 17:20:01 root 1535 1.8 14.3 58680 18064 ? SLsl 17:19 1:07 python /usr/bin/frameworkd Nov 18 17:20:11 Won't be killed Nov 18 17:20:45 mickey|sofa: futex(0x7e7eb0, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL Nov 18 17:21:07 is there a digital clock anywhere?:-) Nov 18 17:21:08 no idea on what is causing t hat Nov 18 17:21:15 BluesLee: you wish Nov 18 17:21:37 its christmas? Nov 18 17:21:46 that looks like it's hanging in a sync. dbus call Nov 18 17:22:01 i pestered charlie to do everything async Nov 18 17:22:03 perhaps he overlooked something Nov 18 17:22:10 BluesLee, I want to have a digital clock, too :) Nov 18 17:22:17 mickey|sofa: this problem is quite recent Nov 18 17:22:29 there were no changes in oeventsd since long Nov 18 17:22:50 hmm.. now the build is failing in git, Applying patch git-gui-install-mode-arg-spaces.patch <- this patch fails to apply Nov 18 17:23:12 night... Nov 18 17:23:22 quickdev: i am no hacker guys Nov 18 17:23:23 mrmoku: any ideas? Nov 18 17:23:33 mickey|sofa: then it may be something else Nov 18 17:24:21 quickdev: is it hard to make one? Nov 18 17:24:31 mickey|sofa: maybe a problem with odeviced.Audio Nov 18 17:24:39 BluesLee, I hope there is already one...anywhere...but it isn't hard, no ;) Nov 18 17:24:45 its an e module right? Nov 18 17:24:54 will do a search Nov 18 17:24:54 yes Nov 18 17:24:54 should be Nov 18 17:25:15 Ainulindale: btw, if I do an opkg upgrade on a neo1973 with shr-lite installed, it dies due to there being no more space left Nov 18 17:25:15 polz: someone broke git-native 1.5.x Nov 18 17:25:33 remove them or update preferred providers to 1.6 Nov 18 17:25:52 mickey|sofa: how, where do I do that? Nov 18 17:27:42 mickey|sofa: I'm afraid that's a gst problem Nov 18 17:28:05 polz: This is a general problem with the neo1973 -- it is solvable by using the SD card -- making developers invest any amounts of effort to keep a distro very small is not a good use of time when one considers that an SD card costs under USD 10. I'm in favor of not even issuing GTA01 jffs images for other than the base (FSO console) builds. Nov 18 17:28:45 (And yes I know this is not what I said some months ago; I've changed my position on it! :-o ) Nov 18 17:29:14 mwester: well, not depending on unneccessary packages doesn't seem like wasting the developer's time. Nov 18 17:29:27 That's optimization. Nov 18 17:29:38 polz: in the OE tree Nov 18 17:30:00 actually, that's just good practice - why add unneccessary dependencies? Nov 18 17:30:08 Ainulindale: strange. i don't have any sync. calls there either Nov 18 17:30:53 mickey|sofa: wellhttp://pastebin.com/m5ce250db Nov 18 17:30:53 it's still hanging Nov 18 17:33:13 polz: (a) because often one doesn't know what libraries and packages one really needs, so one will find it more productive to add the full set of all that one _might_ wish to have (b) because during development it is often convenient to have additional packages to facilitate data collection or debugging. Removal of this stuff is optimization best done afterward, rather then burden a developer with manually adding this stuff to each image Nov 18 17:33:13 they need to work with. Nov 18 17:33:48 mickey|sofa: anyway my hack works, I'll commit it Nov 18 17:34:02 (for the persistence) Nov 18 17:34:46 mwester: IMHO, it makes sense to keep track of dependencies during development... Nov 18 17:35:02 polz: try it sometime, you might change your tune. :) Nov 18 17:35:22 mwester: and the packages that have just eaten up my free space are e-wm-images, e-wm-icons , e.t.c. Nov 18 17:35:30 not the sort of stuff you really need for debugging Nov 18 17:35:48 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07framework * r776637db6312 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py: Timeout settings are now persistent. Nov 18 17:35:52 mickey|sofa: I'd like to merge it to stab, but I don't want to break anything Nov 18 17:36:13 polz: nevertheless, the flash in the gta01 is inadequate for a full-featured distro. Nov 18 17:36:59 Ainulindale: lets use that patch for some days and then backport Nov 18 17:37:18 mwester: well, the shr-lite worked fine until an upgrade. Nov 18 17:37:19 (odeviced.audio) i will take a close look and write some pressure tests Nov 18 17:37:36 mickey|sofa: no problem then Nov 18 17:37:37 errr Nov 18 17:37:37 No Nov 18 17:37:37 Problem :-) Nov 18 17:37:38 perhaps we find what's going on Nov 18 17:37:39 I have to switch to devel Nov 18 17:37:39 (for SHR Nov 18 17:37:44 That may be difficult Nov 18 17:38:15 Ainulindale: is it a deliberate descision to not make the shr-keyboard auto-pop-up? Nov 18 17:38:27 Zorkman: I don't know at all :-) Nov 18 17:38:27 I'm not the UI guy Nov 18 17:38:35 (usually) Nov 18 17:38:48 Ainulindale: well, the stabiliztion branch means a no-new-features policy, that's why i'm a bit hesitating Nov 18 17:41:14 mickey|sofa: I'm ok with that, your choice Nov 18 17:41:17 My point was Nov 18 17:41:17 Nobody uses these methods anyway :-) Nov 18 17:41:26 hmm, that's right Nov 18 17:41:43 toss it in then Nov 18 17:41:51 or shall I? Nov 18 17:42:34 * mickey|sofa does it Nov 18 17:43:09 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07stabilization/milestone4 * re594989233f2 10framework/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py: Timeout settings are now persistent. Nov 18 17:44:01 Thanks :-) Nov 18 17:44:02 mickey|sofa: I'm currently modifying shr-settings to reflect that change Nov 18 17:44:56 * mwester just wants his seg fault problem to go away. :( Nov 18 17:44:57 Ainulindale: so it calls shr-settings? The fork of om-settings? Or am I wrong? Nov 18 17:45:12 dolf1074: yes :) Nov 18 17:45:32 i am choose that name, do you like it? Nov 18 17:45:33 ok, I'm busy with compiling the wrong thing :( Nov 18 17:45:33 dolf1074: yes Nov 18 17:45:33 -am Nov 18 17:45:59 The name is good ;) Nov 18 17:46:00 Ainulindale: can you put into shr-settings an option to disable/enable the gps? Nov 18 17:46:01 I will Hire Nov 18 17:46:01 But I thought is wasn't renamed yet ;) Nov 18 17:46:01 sure, do it when you want :) Nov 18 17:46:18 Please let me breathe two minutes though :-) Nov 18 17:46:18 i don't want to stress you Nov 18 17:46:32 dolf1074: leave Ainulindale aloneeeeeeeeeeee Nov 18 17:46:37 leave him aloneeeee Nov 18 17:46:59 will try :) Nov 18 17:46:59 heh :-) Nov 18 17:47:04 * Hire is going to cry Nov 18 17:47:25 * mwester mutters, and shuffles off to the back of the queue marked "Wait here to bother Ainulindale" Nov 18 17:47:34 Hire: what the name of this britney fan again? :-) Nov 18 17:47:38 Chris something? Nov 18 17:49:39 Ok, settings are working veeeeeeery nicely Nov 18 17:49:56 Committing now Nov 18 17:50:19 mwester, polz Nov 18 17:50:21 Update/upgrade in ten minutes or so Nov 18 17:50:38 shr-settings should allow you to set the suspend time Nov 18 17:50:39 (to off, specifically) Nov 18 17:50:45 I also disabled some stuff in there Nov 18 17:50:49 wifi and clock Nov 18 17:50:49 And such Nov 18 17:51:22 nice Nov 18 17:51:27 Please remember this day Nov 18 17:51:31 I did UI stuff Nov 18 17:51:31 * mwester goes off for a bit to find some lunch and buy some groceries (the dog has no dog food)... will test as soon as he gets back. :) Nov 18 17:51:32 I feel dirty now Nov 18 17:53:10 Ainulindale: it's OK, it's not your fault. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT! Nov 18 17:53:29 just take a shower or something :P Nov 18 17:55:34 Problems with bitbake, can't compile python-etk, see http://pastebin.com/m55245866 Nov 18 17:58:20 What should I do? Nov 18 17:59:02 dolf1074: I had this problem once Nov 18 17:59:48 and how did you solve it? :) Nov 18 18:00:07 Chris Crocker ( thanks google :D ) Nov 18 18:00:40 dolf1074: git pull on openembedded, then bitbake -c clean and bitbake -c mrproper, then rm tmp/stamps/armv4t*/python_etk* Nov 18 18:01:26 Ainulindale: oh my god... you have touched... you have TOUCHED... the UI :OOO Nov 18 18:01:26 polz: you should be able to upgrade now Nov 18 18:01:31 Hire: yeah and it works Nov 18 18:01:31 Now I'm a real super hero Nov 18 18:01:35 * Hire sees how Ainulindale becomes the UI guy Nov 18 18:01:57 Let me die in peace will you :-) Nov 18 18:02:08 Hire: please try latest shr-settings Nov 18 18:02:08 sure Nov 18 18:02:08 And your icon theme is there too Nov 18 18:02:11 Ainulindale: is this normal? http://pastebin.com/m38d3a7a4 Nov 18 18:02:38 dolf1074: unfortunately this is because of raster patches Nov 18 18:02:42 you may want to use the full procedure on the wiki to update Nov 18 18:02:45 so reapply them? Nov 18 18:02:52 rebase and clean befoe Nov 18 18:02:52 +r Nov 18 18:02:59 ok Nov 18 18:03:22 polz, mwester: if the upgrade is going well I'm interested in any result Nov 18 18:03:32 mickey|sofa: is there any way, now, to trigger dbus actions through oeventsds? Nov 18 18:03:47 (not necessarily frameworkd actions) Nov 18 18:04:02 Ainulindale: I seem to be having some problems atm.. Nov 18 18:04:03 Which kind of problem? Nov 18 18:04:38 Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/Packages.gz, error 200 Nov 18 18:05:11 Ainulindale: we agreed that we want a generic dbus action w/ params, i don't know offhand whether someone actually implemented it Nov 18 18:05:33 Ah damn forgot to rename something here Nov 18 18:05:35 polz: I had no problem with downloading that (did opkg update 30 sec ago) Nov 18 18:05:46 mickey|sofa: interested in that Nov 18 18:05:46 no upadates here Nov 18 18:05:46 updates Nov 18 18:05:55 Hire: I know the package was not renamed _git Nov 18 18:05:55 currently doing that Nov 18 18:05:57 ok :) Nov 18 18:06:11 dolf1074: yeah, the problem is probably me. Nov 18 18:06:39 http://my-distribution.example/remote-feed//fic-gta01/Packages.gz Nov 18 18:06:39 opkg: Invalid gzip magic Nov 18 18:06:43 Ainulindale =] congratulations! Nov 18 18:07:00 * sicu waits for Ainulindale to add some nice bright colours too ;] Nov 18 18:07:21 i will do it soon Nov 18 18:07:31 today I am working on edje Nov 18 18:07:44 not right now but I will do it tonight :) Nov 18 18:08:43 this is weird. I can download it through wget Nov 18 18:08:47 sicu: feel free to package your theme and I'll gladly commit it Nov 18 18:08:55 polz: regenerating packages now Nov 18 18:09:09 Please wait, I forgot everything was not ready to git Nov 18 18:09:10 Now it seems to be the case but anyway Nov 18 18:09:25 mickey|sofa: by the way Nov 18 18:09:39 If a desktop file is hardwired to some kind of icon Nov 18 18:09:39 Is there any way to fix that properly? Nov 18 18:09:43 (currently it's a sed on postrootfs) Nov 18 18:09:57 (but that's a quick & dirty fix) Nov 18 18:09:58 and regarding my remark about dbus actions Nov 18 18:10:18 i guess the proper fix should be sending a patch upstream or adding a patch in OE Nov 18 18:10:18 that's because I'd like to trigger idle/idle_dim through illume Nov 18 18:10:18 or a postinst Nov 18 18:10:22 mickey|sofa: ok that was my guess Nov 18 18:10:51 * polz is going to reboot his neo1973 in the meantime Nov 18 18:11:55 Ainulindale: will see if i can get some time tonight to finish things up ;] if not, it'll have to wait for the weekend :/ Nov 18 18:12:18 did anyone of you get my postprocessing idea, btw? Nov 18 18:12:51 mickey|sofa: and what would be a proper way to power on the GPS out of the blue, without having any kind of explicit software using it? Nov 18 18:13:00 mickey|sofa: on OE-devel? Nov 18 18:13:38 SetResourcePolicy("GPS","enabled") Nov 18 18:13:45 or something like that Nov 18 18:14:15 mickey|sofa: ok then will include that Nov 18 18:15:44 quickdev? Nov 18 18:17:03 mickey|sofa: about your postprocessing, on OE-devel? Nov 18 18:17:57 no, i didn't write a mail on it Nov 18 18:18:16 just the short bits i talked about Nov 18 18:18:19 here? Nov 18 18:18:19 yea Nov 18 18:18:19 it's more graphical, not package-related Nov 18 18:18:20 Didn't see that, I'm quite in my thoughts these days :-) Nov 18 18:18:20 hence totally unsuited on oe-devel :) Nov 18 18:18:30 well, i need to run for sports now Nov 18 18:18:34 will come back to that Nov 18 18:26:38 Damn thing, bitbake isn't regenerating the package properly Nov 18 18:30:21 polz? Nov 18 18:31:45 Damn it's weird Nov 18 18:31:59 it won't take the actual version of the package Nov 18 18:36:48 Ainulindale: it's just booted! W00t! Nov 18 18:37:14 Ainulindale: so, what should I try? Settings->whatwhat? Nov 18 18:37:14 polz: wait for the settings update now Nov 18 18:37:22 There was some problem it seems Nov 18 18:37:31 oh, OK, I'm waiting :) Nov 18 18:37:31 (with bitbake) Nov 18 18:37:35 Damn thing Nov 18 18:37:35 It won't get latest Nov 18 18:37:39 I'll try running doom in the meantime :P Nov 18 18:37:52 Get a life ! :-) Nov 18 18:39:07 ...says the UI guy ;) Nov 18 18:39:54 The SHR apps look decent, I guess we want them in Debian :-) Nov 18 18:39:56 * nomeata has just flashed the latest SHR image Nov 18 18:40:08 I can't understand why bitbake won't get latest git revision Nov 18 18:40:52 opkg install libsdl-mixer-1.2.0 Nov 18 18:40:52 An error ocurred, return value: -49900. Nov 18 18:41:17 polz: this isn't a lib name Nov 18 18:41:21 quickdev? Nov 18 18:41:49 Come back on earth, please Nov 18 18:42:00 oh, right, missed a - Nov 18 18:42:32 bitbake is getting on my nerves Nov 18 18:42:32 it won't find latest Nov 18 18:42:32 with no reason Nov 18 18:42:44 It keeps using some basic revision Nov 18 18:42:51 Damn Nov 18 18:43:01 There's two tags Nov 18 18:44:32 mickey|zzZZzz: when i release the GSM resource frameworkd starts consuming 100% cpu Nov 18 18:45:42 lindi-: I had that problem Nov 18 18:45:58 me too :) Nov 18 18:46:23 is some able to explain to me why I have heads/master and head/master on my git repo? Nov 18 18:46:31 Ainulindale: i set the suspend to "off" in the shr-settingsapp and in the wrench-config menu, but it still autosuspends, is there a way to fix this? Nov 18 18:46:36 see http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr.git;a=summary Nov 18 18:46:48 Zorkman: I fixed it but I can update the package right now Nov 18 18:46:48 +n't Nov 18 18:47:14 ok, thanks for the info Nov 18 18:47:37 Meanwhile if you're able to help me with my dumb issue I'm interested in that Nov 18 18:48:36 Ainulindale: please do Nov 18 18:48:40 Ainulindale: this is a killer :) Nov 18 18:49:24 Ainulindale: which patch is it? Nov 18 18:50:09 I won't be able to deploy it as long as I can't reset the HEAD of my git repo Nov 18 18:50:10 seems I have heads/master and head/master Nov 18 18:50:10 And I'm lost there Nov 18 18:50:11 Ainulindale: but is the patch somewhere? Nov 18 18:50:15 On git Nov 18 18:50:24 in shr hexdump /dev/input/event3 doesn't return anything, hexdump /dev/input/event2 does, but when i move the FR the output freezes for a short time, is this normal? Nov 18 18:50:25 * lindi- pulls Nov 18 18:51:11 Ainulindale: i am still not sure which one it is Nov 18 18:51:11 lindi-: I'd like some help with this git thing, I may have borked something but I don't know what Nov 18 18:51:11 lindi-: http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr.git;a=commitdiff;h=56c0a11d18e667353e8a0e15b20849a3abd385a7 Nov 18 18:51:35 git log|grep 56c0a11d18e667353e8a0e15b20849a3abd3 prints nothing Nov 18 18:51:39 Ainulindale: is it only in shr repo and not freesmartphone.org git? Nov 18 18:51:41 yes Nov 18 18:51:42 Err Nov 18 18:51:47 which patch are you talking about? Nov 18 18:52:05 the one that fixes 100% cpu usage Nov 18 18:52:19 Ah, that one Nov 18 18:52:19 No I haven't Nov 18 18:52:25 (got a patch) Nov 18 18:52:30 I was t alking about something else Nov 18 18:52:30 then i'll report it Nov 18 18:52:39 Already did Nov 18 18:52:53 i have automated testcase :) Nov 18 18:55:11 Ainulindale: do you remember the bug id? Nov 18 18:55:15 Nope Nov 18 18:55:23 I don't even remember if I opened a bug Nov 18 18:55:28 I know I talked about it a lot with mickeyl and alphaone :-) Nov 18 18:55:32 polz? Nov 18 18:55:33 Hire? Nov 18 18:55:42 quickdev? Nov 18 18:55:50 yes? Nov 18 18:55:53 :) Nov 18 18:56:06 Hire: your theme is building Nov 18 18:56:17 Apparenty the HEAD was shifted Nov 18 18:56:34 nice :) Nov 18 18:56:56 So now it'll truly work Nov 18 18:56:56 At last Nov 18 18:57:06 With the suspend fix Nov 18 18:57:07 (i.e. ability to set the suspend time to 0) Nov 18 18:57:17 (i.e. disable) Nov 18 18:57:38 ok it's there Nov 18 19:01:09 Ainulindale: should I install it now? Nov 18 19:02:07 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/240 ReleaseResource("GSM") causes frameworkd to consume 100% cpu time Nov 18 19:02:19 polz: yes you can Nov 18 19:02:27 lindi-: good :-) Nov 18 19:05:02 polz: working perfectly here Nov 18 19:05:42 Ainulindale: nothing seems to be happening. Is the Packages.gz up to date? Nov 18 19:05:43 and now, considering the hour and the fact that I'm still at work, I'll go Nov 18 19:05:44 yes it is polz Nov 18 19:05:48 please opkg remove shr-theme and shr-settings Nov 18 19:05:57 Due to the renaming it may be helpful Nov 18 19:06:32 Hire: tonight I'll implement the GPS feature you asked for Nov 18 19:06:50 nice :) Nov 18 19:06:58 Ainulindale: and what should I install in it's stead? Nov 18 19:07:27 polz: the same Nov 18 19:07:50 remove and reinstall Nov 18 19:07:54 if there's no "wifi" menu in shr-settings Nov 18 19:07:54 then you're up to date Nov 18 19:08:02 I'll leave in two minutes so please be quick Nov 18 19:08:10 just a sec, it's downloading Nov 18 19:08:50 Meanwhile I'll share a little piece of my life : I'm going to pee Nov 18 19:09:52 ehe Nov 18 19:09:53 nice pee :) Nov 18 19:09:53 polz? Nov 18 19:10:03 the WIFI is still there Nov 18 19:10:04 I'll reboot Nov 18 19:10:04 no Nov 18 19:10:19 Are you sure you opkg updated? Nov 18 19:10:23 yes. Nov 18 19:10:56 God dammit Nov 18 19:11:02 oeventsd is failing utterly Nov 18 19:11:08 Had the vibrator issue right now Nov 18 19:11:26 I'll reboot anyway Nov 18 19:11:26 Well anyway I had to go, polz, will be back in half an hour or so Nov 18 19:11:38 s/had/have/ Nov 18 19:11:38 Ainulindale: bye Nov 18 19:13:34 Ainulindale: shr-settings works :) Nov 18 19:19:03 OK, it seems to be working now Nov 18 19:44:02 Back Nov 18 19:44:26 Ainulindale: I have the new shr settings. Nov 18 19:44:32 Ok Nov 18 19:44:32 Is it working? Nov 18 19:44:52 nomeata: what do you think about SHR, all in all? Nov 18 19:45:01 how can I test it? Nov 18 19:45:01 polz: heh Nov 18 19:45:01 Simple Nov 18 19:45:03 Just set suspend to off Nov 18 19:45:08 It won't suspend, ever Nov 18 19:45:53 Ainulindale: looks good, nice UI. I can’t always tell what’s your work and what comes with Illume, but generally nice Nov 18 19:46:00 and re-set the values in /etc/ophoned.conf or whatever that file was ? Nov 18 19:46:23 Ainulindale: BTW, what is responsible for firing up the UI in case of incoming calls in SHR? Nov 18 19:46:31 nomeata: ophonekitd Nov 18 19:46:39 polz: no Nov 18 19:46:47 polz: it will do that or you Nov 18 19:46:47 +f Nov 18 19:46:47 (The right way) Nov 18 19:47:13 Ainulindale: I'll comment it out anyway Nov 18 19:47:23 polz: it'll rewrite it Nov 18 19:47:24 nomeata: there's a diagram I did for the architecture Nov 18 19:47:42 nomeata: http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/SHR_Architecture Nov 18 19:48:17 Ok guys I'm taking two personal minutes to put something on the fire Nov 18 19:48:17 I'm starving Nov 18 19:48:17 Ainulindale: and ophonekit is started as part of the X session, right? Nov 18 19:48:41 nomeata: yes Nov 18 19:48:41 :-) bon appetit Nov 18 19:48:41 thx Nov 18 19:48:45 how do I exit this application? Nov 18 19:48:45 dolby Nov 18 19:48:54 polz: which one? Nov 18 19:48:54 settings? Nov 18 19:49:11 yeah. Nov 18 19:49:15 do I just close it? Nov 18 19:49:39 killall -9 ophonekitd will do Nov 18 19:49:40 But I can't see why you would want to close it Nov 18 19:49:44 Apart from not receiving any call ever Nov 18 19:49:44 nomeata: do you have ringtone working with the new frameworkd package? Nov 18 19:49:52 lindi-: no ringtone here Nov 18 19:50:01 well, how do I "apply" the changed settings then? Nov 18 19:50:02 lindi-: I was just trying to set up a new debug env Nov 18 19:50:19 polz: they're already applied Nov 18 19:50:19 if you change the settings, it's applied Nov 18 19:50:23 lindi-: I thought so. Did you install a fso-sounds-* package? Nov 18 19:50:24 nomeata: it's about rules.yaml Nov 18 19:50:24 so I can close the app, then? Nov 18 19:50:24 OK Nov 18 19:50:29 polz: the app isn't ophonekitd Nov 18 19:50:29 nomeata: that does RingTone(start) but RingTone() does not take that many arguments anymore Nov 18 19:50:30 it's shr-settings Nov 18 19:50:42 lindi-: Not sure about what you say here Nov 18 19:50:49 I can see the events here Nov 18 19:50:50 Though it fails to play Nov 18 19:51:00 Ainulindale: I just want to apply the settings and see if it suspends Nov 18 19:51:00 nomeata: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/241 has details Nov 18 19:51:04 polz: then just change the value Nov 18 19:51:07 And keep it open, close it, lick it, whatever Nov 18 19:54:13 Ainulindale: in the bitbake setup, where should I find the files to change? (for making changes on shr-settings?) Nov 18 19:54:18 Ainulindale: you modified etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml : Nov 18 19:54:18 Ainulindale: 8b55ff39 (Julien 'Ainulindale' Cassignol 2008-10-14 18:53:59 +0200 48) - RingTone() Nov 18 19:54:27 Ainulindale: but the comments say that RingTone takes one parameter Nov 18 19:54:37 I did? Nov 18 19:54:37 Damn Nov 18 19:54:49 I don't recall that Nov 18 19:54:49 Maybe git pushed something I didn't want there Nov 18 19:55:00 OK, if suspend isn't off, ophoned still crashes. Is this expected? Nov 18 19:55:12 lindi-: when was it? Nov 18 19:55:41 dolf1074: I don't know what you're talking about Nov 18 19:55:42 Ainulindale: 2008-10-14 as i said Nov 18 19:55:59 Ah I see that Nov 18 19:55:59 but seems RingTone() was used in the older version too Nov 18 19:56:00 Yep Nov 18 19:56:01 can you explain this? Nov 18 19:56:11 The comment is out of date Nov 18 19:56:16 and debian has too old rules.yaml? Nov 18 19:56:16 i can ensure you the problem does not come from that Nov 18 19:56:23 My guess is that gstreamer fails somewhere Nov 18 19:56:25 lindi-: what’s your version of fso-frameworkd and fso-config-gta02? Nov 18 19:56:30 Here I can see the play sound signal fired Nov 18 19:56:37 Ainulindale: I mean normally I could find the source files in ~/shr-testing/shr/frameworkd-phonegui-efl/... but now I can't find it anymore Nov 18 19:56:37 And it freezes on stop Nov 18 19:56:43 Ainulindale: my rules.yaml says RingTone(start) Nov 18 19:56:43 dolf1074: that's normal Nov 18 19:56:51 lindi-: then it's wrong Nov 18 19:56:57 nomeata: see above ^ Nov 18 19:57:03 dolf1074: shr.bearstech.com/git Nov 18 19:57:03 Ainulindale: how can I resolve that? Nov 18 19:57:14 ii fso-config-gta02 20080912-1 configuration files for Openmoko GTA02 Neo FreeRunner Nov 18 19:57:14 ii fso-frameworkd 0.8.4.3-20081118-2 freemsmartphone.org Framework Daemon Nov 18 19:57:19 Meh :-) Nov 18 19:57:26 nomeata: what does your rules.yaml say about RingTone? Nov 18 19:57:51 Ainulindale: but I mean for starting to make changes. (in the bitbake setup) Nov 18 19:58:04 dolf1074: then git clone here, the URL is in the repo Nov 18 19:58:13 lindi-: ok, I forgot to uplaod the fso-config-gta02 package... sorry Nov 18 19:58:13 I can't explain that now dolf1074 I'm too busy Nov 18 19:58:15 and how must I compile them? Nov 18 19:58:26 Please ask quickdev or anyone else Nov 18 19:58:26 Ainulindale: no prob Nov 18 19:58:30 nomeata: ok Nov 18 19:58:32 nomeata: we need unstable/testing :) Nov 18 19:58:44 quickdev: can you help me? Nov 18 19:59:02 What's the secret to generating a uImage? I've followed the directions in the wiki using the daily dfu-util and mkimage built from OpenMoko's source, but I always get "Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC" Nov 18 19:59:11 mreimer: believe in the force luke Nov 18 19:59:37 lindi-: I guess we need better Depends and Conflicts, but before we can do that we have to have a consistend versioning for fso-frameworkd Nov 18 19:59:38 quickdev: I'd be glad if you answer to me =) Nov 18 19:59:42 nomeata: yeah Nov 18 20:00:02 he is afk :) Nov 18 20:00:03 quickdev: the keypad just triggered a segfault here Nov 18 20:00:07 nomeata: but i must admit fso-frameworkd can't be too easy to maintain Nov 18 20:00:21 Ainulindale: yeah, I was hoping my question was a quick-to-answer but unrecorded FAQ Nov 18 20:00:39 mreimer: I generate it with bitbake, you should read bitbake doc IMHO Nov 18 20:00:44 nomeata: how fast can you upload it? ;) Nov 18 20:00:53 lindi-: ok, now pleast update and upgrade, and see if it works Nov 18 20:01:05 But for now Nov 18 20:01:11 I'm going to generate myself a nice meal Nov 18 20:01:17 Ainulindale: I'm building the kernel from om's stable-tracking tree directly, not using bitbake. I'll look there for clues. Nov 18 20:01:29 an italian food? :) Nov 18 20:01:30 Ainulindale: bon appetit Nov 18 20:01:30 do you have the bb recipe for that? :o Nov 18 20:01:30 mreimer: merci. Nov 18 20:01:49 Hire: pasta, yes. Nov 18 20:01:55 mreimer: if you're getting a bad crc, that would suggest that your uboot-mkimage must be broken somehow, or that the uImage is actually ok but is getting mis-loaded by uboot. Nov 18 20:02:08 pb_: long time! good to see you again Nov 18 20:02:11 mreimer: are you trying to fix a bug or just add modules you need? Nov 18 20:02:31 darn, gismo was 5 minutes earlier Nov 18 20:02:31 mreimer: :-) Nov 18 20:02:54 lindi-: my boss wants me to help get Android working on Freerunner Nov 18 20:02:55 Hmpf Nov 18 20:02:55 Nice Nov 18 20:03:03 I had the "no call while in suspend" problem Nov 18 20:03:04 mreimer: can you fix the wlan driver? ;)) Nov 18 20:03:21 mreimer: and how? Nov 18 20:03:22 pb_: that's what I thought, so after trying the mkimage in Ubuntu, I built from OM source, but no go Nov 18 20:03:23 mreimer: fwiw, the mkimage command that oe uses is: uboot-mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 30008000 -e 30008000 -n "openmoko/2.6.24+r8.1+gitrf5b973489beb1a1239dfad53e3ad6e36ff7ee958/om-gta01" -d linux.bin arch/arm/boot/uImage Nov 18 20:03:26 mreimer: do you have builded a virtual keyboard? Nov 18 20:03:42 without it android is useless :) Nov 18 20:03:59 mreimer: there shouldn't really be any more to it than that. Nov 18 20:04:05 pb_: I also tried a newer uboot but that didn't help. It flashes other uImages fine Nov 18 20:04:23 pb_: I'm probably being stupid but don't realize it Nov 18 20:05:26 Hire: that's on the list to investigate. It might be possible with uinput Nov 18 20:05:51 are you working for koolu? Nov 18 20:05:51 thanks pb_. I'll try OE's incantation Nov 18 20:06:24 lindi-: while we were talking, gismo uploaded the package already... Nov 18 20:06:39 Hire: there's some connection to koolu, but I'm not sure what it is. I'm working directly for Todd Blumer (sdgsystems.com) Nov 18 20:06:39 nomeata: ringtone works now! Nov 18 20:06:39 nomeata: thanks Nov 18 20:07:03 back Nov 18 20:07:05 dolf1074, I'm here Nov 18 20:07:16 the problem is simple: android works but without keyboard is pretty hard :) Nov 18 20:07:23 lindi-: we'll see. wifi drivers tend to be pretty complex Nov 18 20:07:24 Ainulindale: settings seems to work. Nov 18 20:07:29 so if you can integrate one into android is nice :) Nov 18 20:07:43 Damn Nov 18 20:07:53 Hire: I agree. Hopefully Google will beat us to it Nov 18 20:08:08 quickdev: I'm trying to change something in shr-settings. But I don't find the sources in my bitbake setup for to change? Nov 18 20:08:09 mreimer: sean is working on wifi :) Nov 18 20:08:15 Ainulindale: i set log_level from INFO to DEBUG, and that's fine, but as soon as i change the suspend value in your new 'shr-settings', it autoannoyingly sets log_level back to INFO? what gives? Nov 18 20:08:30 I can't seem to find how to stop the vibrator again Nov 18 20:08:45 Ainulindale: echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-vibrator/neo1973-vibrator.0/ Nov 18 20:08:45 sicu: you have to reboot frameworkd in between Nov 18 20:08:45 mreimer: yes but google wants to do that to Q1 2009 Nov 18 20:08:56 Hire: good! Since he seems to be the most active on this project I emailed him to see what he'd like to see done next, but I haven't heard back yet. Does he hang out in here? Nov 18 20:08:56 sicu: O in nothing? Nov 18 20:09:13 I used brightness as I always do Nov 18 20:09:44 mreimer: ok, good luck. I have successfully built kernels by hand using that same incantation, and it seems to "just work" for me. Nov 18 20:09:44 mreimer: with the latest image of Android I can use the wifi :) Nov 18 20:09:44 But it won't stop vibrating Nov 18 20:09:44 dolf1074, if you want to change the libframeworkd-phonegui-efl library, go into its .bb recipe Nov 18 20:09:46 mreimer: I would wish for a better boss, one who would have you work on a properly open project for the Om devices. Nov 18 20:09:47 quickdev: Ah, there you are Nov 18 20:10:09 dolf1074, then, after the "inherit shr" line, override SRC_URI with SRC_URI = "file://${TOPDIR}/shr-apps/${PN}" Nov 18 20:10:15 mwester: you mean not Android, more like fso? Nov 18 20:10:20 :-D Exactly. Nov 18 20:10:24 dolf1074, and remove svnr${SRCREV} from the .bb file Nov 18 20:10:53 mwester: he's a good boss who's contributed quite a bit in the past, like the hx4700 linux port Nov 18 20:11:07 dolf1074, you have to clone the git repository with the apps to shr-apps then Nov 18 20:11:12 dolf1074, any questions remaining? :) Nov 18 20:11:18 Ainulindale, here I am ;) Nov 18 20:11:31 * mwester types "opkg upgrade" and crosses his fingers. Nov 18 20:11:35 good work guys Nov 18 20:11:38 On nos Nov 18 20:11:54 e-wm... Nov 18 20:12:08 Oh goodie. Nov 18 20:12:09 quickdev: but before you could just go into the shr directory and you had the sources :( Nov 18 20:12:20 oh no ! more lemmings Nov 18 20:12:20 mreimer: yah, and I think most of the h5400 port before that Nov 18 20:12:21 i think i will start to use shr on a daily basis Nov 18 20:12:35 Lemming. Lemming. Lemming of the BDA!!! Nov 18 20:12:41 not that the h5400 is necessarily anything to be very proud of :-} Nov 18 20:12:41 :-) Nov 18 20:12:54 quickdev: I will try and bug you if it don't work. (but now I have visitors ) Nov 18 20:13:00 i want the first lemmings on my FR :/ Nov 18 20:13:04 yeah I wish money grew on trees so we could clean up all those hh.org ports and get them into mainline Nov 18 20:13:05 so a little bit later ;) Nov 18 20:13:28 that would be nice Nov 18 20:13:33 now installing e- Nov 18 20:13:50 "e-wm-other" Nov 18 20:13:51 dolf1074, if you set it up once, you won't have much work with it :) Nov 18 20:13:51 quickdev: suspend/resume seems to work very well now Nov 18 20:13:55 mwester: stopping the vibrator, in short? :-) Nov 18 20:14:59 Don't remember off-hand. It's different on the 02 Nov 18 20:15:24 Isn't in in the led classes on the 02? Nov 18 20:15:36 IIRC it was echo 0 > something/brightness Nov 18 20:15:38 yes Nov 18 20:15:47 But it won't do a thing here Nov 18 20:15:47 but it didnt worked Nov 18 20:15:47 ooo Nov 18 20:16:26 What kernel? Nov 18 20:16:33 Latest Nov 18 20:16:38 tried that with the call-immediate release bug Nov 18 20:16:50 Same here Nov 18 20:16:51 latest fso? shr? stable? Nov 18 20:17:01 Though if I put echo 100 Nov 18 20:17:05 It stops for a second or so Nov 18 20:17:05 mwester: latest SHR Nov 18 20:17:33 ok. that would be off of the stable then. shouldn't be any problems there. :( Nov 18 20:17:40 But there is Nov 18 20:18:01 same problem on fso Nov 18 20:18:33 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PlaySound /usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid Nov 18 20:18:34 /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio: PlaySound failed: org.freesmartphone.Audio.AlreadyPlaying Nov 18 20:18:37 That's fun Nov 18 20:19:17 ** (process:1534): DEBUG: get_messagebook_info_callback() Nov 18 20:19:17 Segmentation fault Nov 18 20:19:27 mwester: One thing at a time :-) Nov 18 20:19:27 nope, upgrade didn't help :( Nov 18 20:19:53 mwester: that's because you need to disable suspend Nov 18 20:20:01 Don't think so, but I'll try it. Nov 18 20:20:02 How? Nov 18 20:20:17 using the settings app Nov 18 20:20:23 Ainulindale, how modified the settings app? :) Nov 18 20:20:28 ooooh Nov 18 20:20:28 new Nov 18 20:20:34 quickdev: removed the useless stuff Nov 18 20:20:41 included the suspend settings Nov 18 20:20:46 (persistent) Nov 18 20:20:51 great Nov 18 20:21:04 alphaone, mickey|zzZZzz, stefan_schmidt Nov 18 20:21:09 It seems gst has a problem Nov 18 20:23:47 Ainulindale: echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-vibrator.0/leds/neo1973:vibrator/brightness Nov 18 20:23:54 That's what I did Nov 18 20:24:13 and it didnt work ? Nov 18 20:24:14 nope Nov 18 20:24:14 works fine here :/ Nov 18 20:24:16 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PlaySound /usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid Nov 18 20:24:19 root@om-gta02 ~ $ Nov 18 20:24:30 try that please Nov 18 20:26:03 Ainulindale: it plays fine =] Nov 18 20:26:03 It doesn't here Nov 18 20:26:07 What are you using? Nov 18 20:26:08 SHR Nov 18 20:26:17 latest Nov 18 20:26:17 opkg info frameworkd? Nov 18 20:26:38 hang on ... jsut have to turn off this crappy arkanoid Nov 18 20:26:42 (same line with stop sound) Nov 18 20:27:10 Here it doesn't do a thing Nov 18 20:27:11 and the second time it does Nov 18 20:27:11 /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio: PlaySound failed: org.freesmartphone.Audio.AlreadyPlaying Nov 18 20:27:43 Ainulindale: ho can one see battery stat in shr? Nov 18 20:28:04 Zorkman: look at the battery applet Nov 18 20:28:14 Ainulindale: libframeworkd-glib on git.fso.o has the last patch 3 weeks ago. Is it really that stable, or am I using the wrong repository? Nov 18 20:28:24 nomeata: It is that stable and incomplete :-) Nov 18 20:28:24 Zorkman: or do a "more Nov 18 20:28:24 /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/uevent Nov 18 20:28:24 All informations about battery. Nov 18 20:28:31 Ainulindale: (http://pastebin.com/d5b6cd56b) Nov 18 20:28:31 see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs Nov 18 20:28:52 sicu: same here Nov 18 20:28:59 hmmm .... Nov 18 20:28:59 Ainulindale: but it’s the right one for the current versions of the dialer etc., is it? Nov 18 20:29:06 restart :p Nov 18 20:29:07 nomeata: yep Nov 18 20:29:12 sicu: already did Nov 18 20:29:52 Ainulindale: when i click on the battery meter i only get options to set the alarm when it is low Nov 18 20:30:19 What would you wish to see? Nov 18 20:30:32 BluesLee: someone made a comment on your theme on community Nov 18 20:30:32 (Leonti) Nov 18 20:30:42 Ainulindale: your FR must be in the need for a more colourful theme to liven up a little and give you response ;p Nov 18 20:30:51 everything: percentage left, current current, batt temperature, time till empty/full Nov 18 20:30:59 more /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/uevent shows it to me Nov 18 20:30:59 Zorkman: And the captain's age? Nov 18 20:31:10 Zorkman: There's no app for that now Nov 18 20:31:15 Zorkman: Feel free to do it though Nov 18 20:31:21 ok, maybe i'll try to modify batmon.py Nov 18 20:31:28 that's a nice app Nov 18 20:31:44 batmon to the rescue Nov 18 20:31:49 if you want to spend 13M for seeing battery status? ;) Nov 18 20:32:06 Zorkman: you could make a patch for shr-settings Nov 18 20:32:07 It's python, easy to get into Nov 18 20:32:11 Ainulindale: i know:-) Nov 18 20:32:15 Ainulindale: i'm even new to linux, so it'll take me a while Nov 18 20:32:23 lindi-: could you please try the command I pasted ten minutes ago? Nov 18 20:32:31 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PlaySound /usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid Nov 18 20:34:28 how do i stop it? Nov 18 20:34:34 Same command with stop Nov 18 20:34:36 Then you have sound Nov 18 20:34:38 I don't Nov 18 20:35:03 ok both work Nov 18 20:35:11 quickdev: why does this doesn't work? git clone git://shr.bearstech.com/git shr-apps Nov 18 20:35:24 Ainulindale: i am not sure about that ice icons, i like hires more, but need the sharp ones Nov 18 20:35:36 BluesLee: they're online, supposedly Nov 18 20:35:39 dolf1074: change git by repo Nov 18 20:35:44 dolf1074, git clone git://shr.bearstech.com/shr.git Nov 18 20:35:51 and add shr.git Nov 18 20:35:55 Ainulindale: what di'o you mean with online? Nov 18 20:35:59 dolf1074, git clone http://shr.bearstech.com/repo/shr.git Nov 18 20:36:10 BluesLee: on the repository Nov 18 20:36:26 Ainulindale: okay, next image will contain them Nov 18 20:36:30 Ainulindale: what about my kb mods? Nov 18 20:36:48 quickdev: thanks that work. Nov 18 20:36:52 BluesLee: which one? Nov 18 20:36:52 quickdev: did you test the kb mods? Nov 18 20:37:03 Ainulindale: one mo, need to search Nov 18 20:37:11 sicu: could you please opkg list_installed | grep gst and pastebin the result? Nov 18 20:38:06 BluesLee, sorry..not yet...I'm really looking forward to it. I've got soooo many things to do atm :( Nov 18 20:38:12 Ainulindale: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/fddef197a3dfb37d9812bc05638c89a1.png Nov 18 20:39:16 Ainulindale: and here from another guy and me: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/0e6d8dff7fbdfcf747ce56708362f6f0.png and http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/92f7f59f283819d3d666bb480b58cfeb.png Nov 18 20:39:25 BluesLee: is this a special keyboard entry? Nov 18 20:39:27 Ainulindale: http://pastebin.com/d32d5240d Nov 18 20:40:56 BluesLee: only modified the kbd files, the kbds should be finger friendly Nov 18 20:41:20 sicu: are you using shr-image or shr-lite-image? Nov 18 20:41:48 Ainulindale: shr-image Nov 18 20:41:51 no lite Nov 18 20:42:11 Could you try lite? Nov 18 20:42:30 quickdev: maybe it should be handy that that was documented on the wiki. Nov 18 20:42:39 ok, will reflash now Nov 18 20:42:48 eugh, Debian misses a lot of dependencies for SHR (libmokojournal2, libmokoui2, libjana*). I guess getting this in Debian will take some work. Nov 18 20:42:48 Ainulindale: only modified the kbd files, the kbds should be finger friendly Nov 18 20:43:12 dolf1074, please do that...you would support SHR's development quite much Nov 18 20:43:38 BluesLee: which kbd files? Nov 18 20:43:38 nomeata, all those are not used Nov 18 20:43:38 sicu: thanks a lot Nov 18 20:43:46 nomeata, *anymore Nov 18 20:44:24 quickdev: I will first try to make mine setup work :) Nov 18 20:44:40 nomeata: don't try to import libframeworkd-phonegui-gtk Nov 18 20:47:52 nomeata: what should be of interest to you is libframeworkd-glib, ophonekitd, openmoko-messages|contacts|dialer3 Nov 18 20:48:33 Ainulindale: just need to finish off something first Nov 18 20:48:33 Then libframeworkd-phonegui[-efl] Nov 18 20:48:33 Ainulindale: kbd conf files under /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/ Nov 18 20:49:07 BluesLee: Does it replace any existing file? Nov 18 20:49:07 eh, nevermind, I think I’m on an old branch Nov 18 20:50:07 Ainulindale: ?? i changed Default.kbd and Numbers.kbd no more no less Nov 18 20:50:09 That was my question Nov 18 20:50:10 You're replacing an existing keyboard Nov 18 20:50:27 yes Nov 18 20:50:27 :-) Nov 18 20:51:23 Ok, found out the problem Nov 18 20:51:23 root@om-gta02 ~ $ gst-launch filesrc location=usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid ! siddec | alsasink Nov 18 20:51:24 /bin/sh: alsasink: not found Nov 18 20:51:39 Could someone tell me which package this file is in? Nov 18 20:52:30 Argh damned Nov 18 20:52:35 Put | instead of ! Nov 18 20:52:46 this arkanoid sound s... Nov 18 20:53:07 Though this Nov 18 20:53:07 gst-launch filesrc location=/usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid Nov 18 20:53:07 ! siddec ! alsasink Nov 18 20:53:07 Is failing aswell Nov 18 20:54:48 No sound whatsoever Nov 18 20:55:19 Ah and now screen won't come back Nov 18 20:55:35 I'm lucky today Nov 18 20:55:36 Ainulindale: that worked fine here too Nov 18 20:55:45 sicu: here it doesn't do a thing Nov 18 20:56:07 i will reflash in a minute ... jsut need to finish something first Nov 18 20:56:24 *just Nov 18 20:57:20 How am I supposed to set the brightness to max again? Nov 18 20:57:24 Can't find the character device either Nov 18 20:57:25 Or the /sys thingy Nov 18 21:00:32 quickdev: I get errors after I setup everything and try to do 'bitbake -c build shr-settings' (see http://pastebin.com/m47c1948c) Nov 18 21:00:56 dolf1074, post the do_compile.log Nov 18 21:01:00 brb...baking some meet Nov 18 21:01:06 sauces? :) Nov 18 21:01:06 quickdev: by the way Nov 18 21:01:06 using debug Nov 18 21:01:07 ** ERROR **: error: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. dbus -2 Nov 18 21:01:07 quickdev: http://pastebin.com/m1808399e Nov 18 21:01:07 We should work around that Nov 18 21:01:14 Ainulindale: now navit works Nov 18 21:01:22 it's my fault :) Nov 18 21:01:27 Waht did you do? Nov 18 21:01:27 s/Waht/What/ Nov 18 21:01:48 simple: my uSD was corrupted Nov 18 21:01:48 :) Nov 18 21:01:48 Meh Nov 18 21:01:51 Well here I'm trying to make oeventsd bork Nov 18 21:01:53 Because I rebooted, and now I have sound Nov 18 21:01:54 I think this might have been a kernel mishap Nov 18 21:01:58 now I am working on edje :) Nov 18 21:02:01 Hire: and how is it going ;) Nov 18 21:02:10 fine :) Nov 18 21:02:33 soon I will post a screen Nov 18 21:02:37 ola Nov 18 21:02:47 (is there a log of this chat somewhere? Nov 18 21:03:06 Ainulindale: just finished downloading shr-lite, do i reflash or is there no point since you got it working ? Nov 18 21:03:11 sicu: I think you shouldn't, right now Nov 18 21:03:13 But thanks anyway Nov 18 21:03:19 though now it seems oeventsd borked agai Nov 18 21:03:21 +n Nov 18 21:03:37 dolf1074: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel.txt (current 24hr log) Nov 18 21:03:46 and I have a BSOD Nov 18 21:03:50 Impossible to set the brightness of the screen Nov 18 21:03:52 sicu: thanks Nov 18 21:04:01 dolf1074: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel-prev.txt (previous 24hr log) Nov 18 21:04:02 And my modem isn't responding Nov 18 21:04:40 sicu: even more thank you Nov 18 21:04:53 Damn that's weird Nov 18 21:04:54 dolf1074: or even easier, all logs: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/ Nov 18 21:05:36 * lindi- wget -r's Nov 18 21:06:19 It was quite on 9 okt Nov 18 21:06:19 :) Nov 18 21:06:32 Ainulindale: running into some bad charma today :/ Nov 18 21:06:45 karma Nov 18 21:06:57 or that :p Nov 18 21:06:58 I think that's because I run frameworkd in debug Nov 18 21:07:00 it's so slow Nov 18 21:07:00 That it timeouts Nov 18 21:07:56 Ok will try to bork oeventsd (again) Nov 18 21:08:07 quickdev: still tackling your meat? Nov 18 21:08:32 Ainulindale: yes if you set DEBUG info frameworkd it slowdowns the FR :) Nov 18 21:08:34 I know, but if I don't, I can't debug Nov 18 21:08:52 quickdev: ophonekitd crashed on SMS Nov 18 21:09:10 when? Nov 18 21:09:10 ** (process:1462): DEBUG (recursed): event_callback() Nov 18 21:09:10 aborting... Nov 18 21:09:11 no Nov 18 21:09:15 yeah me too Nov 18 21:09:15 it crashed Nov 18 21:09:42 Failed to handle dbus error: type: <--- this is pretty weird Nov 18 21:09:53 That's not weird Nov 18 21:10:19 it is weird instead :/ Nov 18 21:10:47 Ainulindale: what are those .xml files in libframeworkd-glib used for – they are not installed, or used during the build, are they? Nov 18 21:11:16 nomeata: They're just here to generate the headers Nov 18 21:11:53 (and to keep track of the versions) Nov 18 21:14:11 What's this mess.. Nov 18 21:14:21 Now I can't even make a call but it won't crash Nov 18 21:14:47 Something is really borked in my setup Nov 18 21:20:35 ok guys Nov 18 21:20:48 I am going to watch the lastest ep of the big bang theory :) Nov 18 21:20:54 Ainulindale: sounds like the equivalent of the ms-win syndrome .... you need to format c: and reinstall ;p Nov 18 21:23:32 Ok Nov 18 21:23:32 Calling myself Nov 18 21:23:38 It didn't come out of suspend Nov 18 21:23:51 And now it vibrates for ever and ever Nov 18 21:24:13 bugs and bugs.. ;) Nov 18 21:24:28 Hire: Spoiler Alert: the universe originated from the violent explosion of a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature. Nov 18 21:24:37 Hire: now you can stay here and play instead ;] Nov 18 21:25:19 :/ Nov 18 21:26:03 how do I flash my freerunner with my soon-to-be-complete homebuilt rootfs? Nov 18 21:26:34 Ok, it picked up the signals correctly, and didn't play the sound Nov 18 21:26:41 But the vibrator action went on and on Nov 18 21:27:16 Ainulindale: tried turning off DEBUG to see if it makes a difference ? Nov 18 21:28:09 I was just doing that Nov 18 21:30:41 Ah, saw a problem niw Nov 18 21:30:41 -i Nov 18 21:30:50 If gsm0710muxd is launched (i.e. gsm registered) Nov 18 21:30:54 and if you relaunch frameworkd Nov 18 21:31:02 It won't detect gsm0710muxd is still launched Nov 18 21:31:07 And even if the GSM resource is active Nov 18 21:31:09 It won't tell it is Nov 18 21:32:01 Ok, with INFO, coming out of suspend result in vibrator going on and on again Nov 18 21:32:02 and the call doesn't seem to be properly updated Nov 18 21:32:03 s/updated/accepted/ Nov 18 21:32:10 :/ Nov 18 21:32:32 No ring on the caller side Nov 18 21:32:32 But it hangs up Nov 18 21:32:36 (after some seconds) Nov 18 21:33:31 i think you should try SHR-Image ULTRA BER LITE instead Nov 18 21:33:44 Go fork yourself! Nov 18 21:33:51 ;p Nov 18 21:34:57 i'll make som cool icons for the BER LITE image if you want ;] Nov 18 21:35:30 sicu, don't forget to run update-mime-database $mimedir Nov 18 21:35:56 haha Nov 18 21:35:56 and now Nov 18 21:35:57 2008.11.19 22:33:33 otimed.alarm ERROR can not get list of RTCs (DBusException org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.dbus.exceptions.IntrospectionParserException: Traceback (most recent call last): Nov 18 21:36:17 That is new Nov 18 21:36:17 anywhere i can get a copy of local.conf setup for shr? Nov 18 21:36:43 Damn, what's this mess? Nov 18 21:36:47 I feel like I using 2008.9 Nov 18 21:36:51 s/I u/u/ Nov 18 21:36:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mail 07libframeworkd-glib * r20e44077cb27 10/src/Makefile.am: Make sure dialer-marshal.list ends up in the tarball Nov 18 21:36:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mail 07libframeworkd-glib * ra0d501cbd56d 10/src/ (odeviced/Makefile.am ogsmd/Makefile.am ousaged/Makefile.am): Mention dbus/*.h headers in Automake.am Nov 18 21:37:13 Ainulindale, mail? Nov 18 21:37:21 that’s me Nov 18 21:37:54 My adress is mail@joachim-breitner.de, and CIA bot does not handle that nicely Nov 18 21:38:20 nomeata, yeah, ok :) Nov 18 21:38:45 (maybe CIA bot should notice some general local parts, and use the domain in that case) Nov 18 21:39:50 quickdev: already a clue what could be wrong? That's the faults: http://pastebin.com/m1808399e Nov 18 21:40:41 dolf1074, what did you do to experience it? Nov 18 21:40:55 I adapted the shr-settings.bb like you told. Nov 18 21:41:03 Than I downloaded the git into shr-apps directory Nov 18 21:41:11 than I tried to bitbake shr-settings Nov 18 21:41:21 but I had put the shr-apps outside the shr-testing folder Nov 18 21:41:25 so it complained Nov 18 21:41:27 then I moved it into the shr-testing folder Nov 18 21:41:37 and It wanted to start bitbake shr-settings and that worked Nov 18 21:41:37 quickdev: could you do a quick test for me? Nov 18 21:41:49 except for the compile of shr-settings itself Nov 18 21:42:40 dolf1074, where is it located now? :) Nov 18 21:43:06 inside the shr-testing folder Nov 18 21:43:06 shr/shr-testing/shr-apps/shr-settings/ ? Nov 18 21:43:54 yes Nov 18 21:44:26 have you alreayd tried bitbake -c clean shr-settings? Nov 18 21:44:48 Ok, the first SHR package is in Debian (libframeworkd-glib). But that’s enough for now, libraries are always some hassle Nov 18 21:45:03 nomeata, great :) Nov 18 21:45:03 While working on it, I improved the autoconf stuff so that "make dist" includes everything important Nov 18 21:45:27 Ainulindale, what test? Nov 18 21:45:31 quickdev: no, will try it now Nov 18 21:45:51 quickdev: put ogsmd in DEBUG Nov 18 21:45:51 just osgmd Nov 18 21:45:55 then suspend Nov 18 21:45:55 then call yourself Nov 18 21:46:00 and tell me if it wakes up Nov 18 21:46:00 Here it doesn't Nov 18 21:46:17 It doesn't even play the ringtone Nov 18 21:46:22 And it seems to freeze when I try to stop it (says it's already playing) Nov 18 21:47:18 quickdev: http://pastebin.com/m52e26606 Nov 18 21:47:22 See line 68 Nov 18 21:48:20 alphaone, stefan_schmidt, mickey|zzZZzz : http://pastebin.com/m52e26606 Nov 18 21:52:29 Anyway, going to take a break Nov 18 21:52:30 quickdev: I will be quite for a while, I have to recompile many packages. (have deleted some already compiled packages :( ) Nov 18 21:52:32 ok, take your time.. Nov 18 21:52:58 mwester: you might be interested in my issue Nov 18 22:02:53 quickdev: Ok then, and it works fine with INFO? Nov 18 22:03:19 have to verify that Nov 18 22:10:31 quickdev: is your build working? Nov 18 22:10:40 You didn't answer to me Nov 18 22:11:02 Ainulindale, no reaction either, although there's no ringtone and vibation when waking up the phone. It seems I have done something wrong. I killed gsmmuxd. I should have shut the modem down, too. Nov 18 22:11:13 It's still building Nov 18 22:14:07 I can't understand why it won't play the ringtone Nov 18 22:15:17 And it freezes totally oeventsd Nov 18 22:15:43 Well I had my share, I'm fed up with these issues Nov 18 22:18:21 Ainulindale, alphaone wants to revamp the event system afaik Nov 18 22:21:43 Ainulindale: sorry, i read the theme thread on the ml yesterday. if you want i can provide something with the help of hire Nov 18 22:22:35 Ainulindale: the used ice icons are gpl according to http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Ice+icons+-+part+1?content=54079&PHPSESSID=9247a3f73ca7783457b0410b1ccff86a Nov 18 22:23:54 BluesLee: i will collect application icon listings from different users so i can match a wider range of icons Nov 18 22:25:02 quickdev: this seems to be either a kernel or a gst issue Nov 18 22:26:33 Too bad there's no FSO developer here today Nov 18 22:27:47 Ainulindale: I just installed last nights image... should it show 'no sound symptom' or do I have to upgrade? I'm using a different kernel... Nov 18 22:31:24 I might be able to tell if it's kernel. Only update is frameworkd, right? Nov 18 22:33:26 There are other updates Nov 18 22:33:26 But please check Nov 18 22:33:35 This is bugging me Nov 18 22:33:40 ok, _without_ updating playing a sid file does _not_ work Nov 18 22:33:41 and this is with _my_ kernel, that used to work fine Nov 18 22:33:52 so it looks more like some gst stuff, I think Nov 18 22:34:16 What's weird here Nov 18 22:34:20 Is that if I reboot Nov 18 22:34:21 It works fine Nov 18 22:34:35 (trying that : gst-launch filesrc location=/usr/share/sounds/Arkanoid_PSID.sid ! siddec ! alsasink) Nov 18 22:36:11 * mrmoku is stupid Nov 18 22:36:29 it works fine - with the correct path to Arkanoid :) Nov 18 22:36:50 so it's after suspend (the problem)? Nov 18 22:37:07 Try to suspend and see Nov 18 22:37:09 I'll retry here Nov 18 22:37:27 Currently rebooting Nov 18 22:38:29 ok, I suspended, resumend and the gst-launch still works Nov 18 22:38:43 Try to suspend and call yourself Nov 18 22:38:43 will try to place a call while suspended now Nov 18 22:39:00 If it still works Nov 18 22:39:19 kill ophonekitd, gsm0710muxd and frameworkd Nov 18 22:39:39 (gsm0710muxd needs to be killed after frameworkd) Nov 18 22:39:56 then restart frameworkd using log_level = DEBUG Nov 18 22:40:06 And relaunch ophonekitd Nov 18 22:40:10 and try to place a call Nov 18 22:40:11 (in suspend) Nov 18 22:40:36 first step still works :) Nov 18 22:40:54 you need a DEBUG log when it's working, or should I update first? Nov 18 22:41:00 DIdn't understand the question Nov 18 22:41:01 I did not yet update frameworkd. Shall I? Nov 18 22:41:07 First try to call yourself in suspend with log_level=DEBUG Nov 18 22:41:07 ok Nov 18 22:41:43 Ok Nov 18 22:41:43 I suspended Nov 18 22:42:16 And it doesn't work anymore Nov 18 22:42:16 Suspend kills gst somehow Nov 18 22:42:53 mwester? Nov 18 22:42:53 http://pastebin.com/m12173bbc <= log Nov 18 22:43:02 (Freezing at this point) Nov 18 22:44:41 Hmmmmm Nov 18 22:45:14 I'm afraid that's coincidental Nov 18 22:45:19 And due to speech-dispatcher Nov 18 22:45:19 (navit plugin) Nov 18 22:45:45 I killed it and it worked fine Nov 18 22:46:37 Confirmed Nov 18 22:47:32 http://pastebin.com/m5e55fd <= full log of the test Nov 18 22:47:36 I guess my log is not needed any longer :) Nov 18 22:47:40 mrmoku: could you please try? Nov 18 22:47:44 just opkg install navit Nov 18 22:47:45 and try to do the same thing I did Nov 18 22:47:49 i.e. start speech-dispatcher Nov 18 22:47:49 then amp -s Nov 18 22:47:49 apm -s Nov 18 22:47:50 then resume Nov 18 22:47:50 etc. Nov 18 22:47:54 written in the log Nov 18 22:48:07 don't have speed-dispatcher - lite image :( Nov 18 22:48:07 mrmoku: opkg install navit Nov 18 22:48:14 uh, this brings in libpulse? Nov 18 22:48:31 Apparently Nov 18 22:49:36 Ah, someone had the problem too Nov 18 22:50:35 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1599#comment:21 Nov 18 22:52:25 This is such a pain in the ass Nov 18 22:52:32 (Though my previous log still applies, no call received while in suspend) Nov 18 22:53:31 But now it works Nov 18 22:53:39 Seems this thing was doing baaaad baaad things Nov 18 22:53:40 quickdev: memo Nov 18 22:54:07 Ainulindale, memo? Nov 18 22:54:20 quickdev: speech-dispatcher causes big problems with suspend/resume Nov 18 22:54:20 (pulseaudio that is=) Nov 18 22:54:37 yeah Nov 18 22:54:46 let's remove navit for now because of that Nov 18 22:55:02 I agree Nov 18 22:55:02 Since we'll remove it Nov 18 22:55:04 You can work on lfp-efl then :-p Nov 18 22:55:04 thanks for your effort to get the root of the problem :) Nov 18 22:55:13 quickdev: I wasted my entire evening with that Nov 18 22:55:21 Ainulindale, if my build suceeds Nov 18 22:55:21 Ainulindale: can confirm - after suspend/resume with speed-dispatcher running gst-launch hangs at 'New clock: GstAudioSinkClock' Nov 18 22:55:21 While I was willing to work on other stuff Nov 18 22:55:30 mrmoku: Ok then :-) Nov 18 22:55:54 Which proves pulseaudio is crap Nov 18 22:55:55 Well anyway Nov 18 22:55:56 My back hurts like hell, spent too much time on this problem Nov 18 22:55:58 I'm going to grab a smoke and look at some TV show quietly for a while Nov 18 22:56:20 have fun and relax :) Nov 18 22:56:23 hmm Nov 18 22:56:43 who said they were going to port SHR to Debian? Nov 18 23:01:12 polz: that would be horrible Nov 18 23:02:21 better to port it to Gentoo:) Nov 18 23:04:34 Well Nov 18 23:04:34 Can't watch TV Nov 18 23:04:35 Too worried about stuff I have to do Nov 18 23:04:52 relax :) Nov 18 23:05:06 I hope at least real life stuff ;) Nov 18 23:05:15 Nope Nov 18 23:05:15 My girlfriend isn't here Nov 18 23:05:23 My bank problem is settled Nov 18 23:05:32 And I just can't bear to be idle Nov 18 23:06:34 i have constantly problems :) Nov 18 23:07:20 what's libhito? Nov 18 23:07:53 Ainulindale: one thing before I go to bed... How is the state of the rasterpatches? Nov 18 23:08:01 IIRC stefan_schmidt brought some stuff upstream? Nov 18 23:08:01 Some have been applied Nov 18 23:08:10 Some are not Nov 18 23:08:10 (applied) Nov 18 23:08:58 I can take a look tomorrow... Today I was sunken in my day job and now I'm tired Nov 18 23:10:44 mrmoku: Waiting for some review from mickey|zzZZzz here. (E maintainer in OE) Nov 18 23:11:23 * stefan_schmidt moves to bed. Just 6 hours until the alarm will come. night guys Nov 18 23:11:29 Ahh, ok good night Nov 18 23:11:34 night Nov 18 23:11:42 * mrmoku is moving in the same direction :) Nov 18 23:12:53 And I'm doing a dbus action for oevents Nov 18 23:13:02 Can't recall why I needed that Nov 18 23:13:12 Probably to trigger illume screensaving feature Nov 18 23:18:24 Ainunlindale: that would be cool for a media-player to be able to enable/disable the screensaver through dbus Nov 18 23:18:50 ptitjes: that has nothing to do with frameworkd t hough Nov 18 23:19:19 just tought this while you were speaking of the illume screensaver Nov 18 23:20:48 also I had that problem when using navit of the screen dimming out everytime Nov 18 23:21:33 That's frameworkd Nov 18 23:22:00 Ainulindale: I installed the shr makefile - currently building logrotate Nov 18 23:22:09 compiles well but fails to install Nov 18 23:22:29 How do I set time zone in SHR? Nov 18 23:22:42 anyway you'll have rotate in your next release I think ;) Nov 18 23:37:42 Ainulindale: I though there was a git command to produce a patch - I modified a bb recipe and I'd like to produce a patch relative to the root of the oe tree... Nov 18 23:37:46 There is Nov 18 23:37:47 Can't recall what it is though Nov 18 23:37:47 git format-patch origin Nov 18 23:37:56 origin ? Nov 18 23:38:00 origin branch Nov 18 23:38:22 try it ;) Nov 18 23:39:50 don't forget -s Nov 18 23:39:50 ;) Nov 18 23:40:45 night all Nov 18 23:42:28 quickdev: this produces no file Nov 18 23:42:57 ptitjes, http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitCheatSheet Nov 18 23:45:13 quickdev: thank you very much! you avoided me hours of reading Nov 18 23:45:29 hehe, no prob :) Nov 18 23:52:52 Hmmm I can't seem to parse my action Nov 18 23:53:08 It gets registered but isn't parsed on the rules Nov 18 23:53:57 Ainulindale, git-native fails here Nov 18 23:53:57 *still Nov 18 23:54:01 You regenerated everything? Nov 18 23:54:15 no Nov 18 23:54:31 Then why did it take so much? Nov 18 23:54:32 (time) Nov 18 23:54:44 compiled some other packages...new E etc.. Nov 18 23:56:33 Why can't we work properly... Nov 18 23:56:55 This is a pain, a true pain in the ass Nov 18 23:56:56 yeah, it is Nov 18 23:57:11 there was a fix for a git failure Nov 18 23:57:22 of the new git veresion Nov 18 23:57:36 but I think he still tries to use the old one here Nov 18 23:58:00 * Nov 18 23:58:00 Hmpf Nov 18 23:58:00 I'll do a finde git-native Nov 18 23:58:01 *find Nov 18 23:58:01 remove the stamps, and clean Nov 19 00:03:33 Ainulindale, I simply removed the line that contained the patch Nov 19 00:03:38 in my local openembedded directory Nov 19 00:04:57 ** ERROR **: Unknown error: TODO org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device -3 Nov 19 00:04:57 That's new Nov 19 00:05:02 *yawn* Nov 19 00:05:02 what is -3? Nov 19 00:05:06 invalid index? timeout? Nov 19 00:05:07 No idea Nov 19 00:05:10 i am pretty tired so I will go the the bed :) Nov 19 00:05:33 good night guys :D Nov 19 00:05:33 DEVICE_ERROR_FAILED = -3 Nov 19 00:07:34 Ainulindale: a patch for the logrotate bb recipe - http://pastebin.com/m2e8fb8a5 Nov 19 00:07:45 ptitjes: will look into it tomorrow but thanks :-) Nov 19 00:07:57 yet I have to install it on my fr and test it Nov 19 00:08:02 quickdev: can't see why but here is what it produces Nov 19 00:08:02 2008.11.20 01:04:19 oeventsd INFO call dbus signal /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device Initiate((['123', 'voice'],)) Nov 19 00:08:19 (trying to initiate a call, just to see) Nov 19 00:08:29 the [ ] thing is a *arg variable which I hardwired to otherargs, "123", "voice") Nov 19 00:08:31 sim authenticated, network registered and so on? Nov 19 00:08:33 it produces a [ ] thing Nov 19 00:08:37 quickdev: yeah, restarted stuff Nov 19 00:09:03 Problem is, I want it to produce s, s Nov 19 00:09:03 not [s, s] Nov 19 00:09:04 I don't really know how this is possible Nov 19 00:09:57 you have to debox the array Nov 19 00:10:06 *array Nov 19 00:10:25 (My problem here is syntaxic, I just don't know how to tell python to do what I want it to do) Nov 19 00:11:15 I've read sooner in the evening you can call a function f that takes multiple args with an array of the argument like this : Nov 19 00:11:18 f(*args) Nov 19 00:11:50 Argh, no, I know where I broke things Nov 19 00:12:36 Hmmm, no Nov 19 00:12:36 isn't this that you need ? Nov 19 00:12:36 Wasn't that Nov 19 00:12:36 No Nov 19 00:12:37 arf Nov 19 00:12:47 Or the initial thing wasn't properly done Nov 19 00:13:04 BTW: I really like python after having read the tutorial ;) Nov 19 00:14:35 tomorow I'll try to remote debug with pydevd Nov 19 00:15:12 ptitjes: Let me picture my problem Nov 19 00:15:12 maybe I can debug that stupid missing outgoing signal stuff... Nov 19 00:15:12 I'm receiving an unknown number of args Nov 19 00:15:13 hence *args Nov 19 00:15:14 and I'm supposed to send each arg as is Nov 19 00:15:14 in the same order Nov 19 00:15:22 yeah Nov 19 00:15:23 (going outside to smoke for a bit) Nov 19 00:15:47 Ainunlindale: this is what I told you Nov 19 00:17:06 Ainulindale: see that http://docs.python.org/tutorial/controlflow.html#unpacking-argument-lists Nov 19 00:18:36 def my_func(*args): Nov 19 00:18:37 my_other_func(*args) Nov 19 00:19:36 my_fun = my_other_func is shorter :P Nov 19 00:20:04 I assumed he needs to do things before and after calling my_other_func Nov 19 00:22:25 anyway he could also use with_wrap() Nov 19 00:22:26 :) Nov 19 00:23:06 Hmmm my problem is that I have to give two distincts arguments Nov 19 00:24:33 Ainulindale: f(*args) calls f with as many arguments as there are elements in args Nov 19 00:25:29 Well, seems it doesn't work that well here. Nov 19 00:25:29 So I think the pyo didn't get regenerated Nov 19 00:25:30 said another way it like doing : f(args[0], args[1], args[2], ...) Nov 19 00:26:35 Ainulindale: I tought about something for oeventd Nov 19 00:27:08 ptitjes: see my problem Nov 19 00:27:09 2008.11.20 01:25:23 dbus.connection ERROR Unable to set arguments (['123', 'voice'],) according to signature u'ss': : Expected a string or unicode object Nov 19 00:27:21 Remember we spoke about having rules like these rule := (signals, handler-wih-condition) Nov 19 00:28:02 ptitjes: I'm too much in my problem now to think about anything else, sorry Nov 19 00:28:25 okay sorry - anyway I must write stuff down to paper before speaking of my idea Nov 19 00:28:55 Here I can't understand why it doesn't unpack the array Nov 19 00:28:59 the method is called as follows : method(*self.args, **kargs) Nov 19 00:29:01 it seems like you have a set around your list, isn't it ? Nov 19 00:29:52 mgnmgn? Nov 19 00:30:00 are you sure you can unpack the keywords dict ?? Nov 19 00:30:02 **kargs ? Nov 19 00:30:02 Could you please speak another language than chinese? Nov 19 00:30:05 forget that Nov 19 00:30:17 I have an object Nov 19 00:30:17 Which calls super Nov 19 00:30:20 with an *arg argument Nov 19 00:30:45 thus I call super.__init__(arg1, arg1, *arg) Nov 19 00:30:46 which gives Nov 19 00:30:46 thus I call super.__init__(arg1, arg1, "123", "voice") Nov 19 00:31:15 okay Nov 19 00:31:33 then in super Nov 19 00:31:33 *arg is stored in self Nov 19 00:31:39 then an method is called with *self.arg Nov 19 00:31:50 (and another thing which isn't the matter here, **kargs) Nov 19 00:33:48 could you try to make a temporary name please - just to check Nov 19 00:33:50 temp = self.arg Nov 19 00:33:54 f(*temp) Nov 19 00:33:55 That's what I did Nov 19 00:33:55 Same result Nov 19 00:34:12 frrrrrrrrrrr Nov 19 00:36:06 isn't it a problem of the dbus-python mapping itself using *args Nov 19 00:36:33 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=framework/subsystems/oeventsd/action.py;h=6d7f827a63f7eba3981df3d4113c36c8c0aa69eb;hb=stabilization/milestone4 Nov 19 00:36:46 see 92 and 103 Nov 19 00:36:46 could you try to define a test function taking two arguments and that prints them Nov 19 00:36:47 That's what I'm trying to use Nov 19 00:40:18 Seems you're not inspired =) Nov 19 00:41:30 well anyway I'm going to sleep for a bit Nov 19 00:41:43 line 98 looks like there should not be as many brackets as in your log extract Nov 19 00:41:57 let me see that Nov 19 00:42:06 ptitjes: self.args, not *self.args Nov 19 00:42:06 so brackets. Nov 19 00:42:12 (or so it sounds to me) Nov 19 00:42:21 (though the , is weird) Nov 19 00:42:46 ptitjes: 2008.11.20 01:32:45 oeventsd INFO call dbus signal /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device Initiate((['123', 'voice'],)) Nov 19 00:42:50 This is the output Nov 19 00:42:50 you have ((['123', 'voice'],)) and there should be (['123', 'voice']) Nov 19 00:43:16 am I wrong ? Nov 19 00:43:26 no, I think you're right Nov 19 00:43:34 ptitjes: super(ExternalDBusAction, self).__init__(dbusBus, service, obj, interface, method, "123", "voice") Nov 19 00:43:35 How can I be more explicit than that? Nov 19 00:43:59 euuuuuuuuuuh - you speak chinese Nov 19 00:43:59 :) Nov 19 00:43:59 that's my way to use super() Nov 19 00:44:00 and as you can see Nov 19 00:44:00 there's no [] Nov 19 00:44:09 I'm explicitely listing the arguments Nov 19 00:44:59 oh yeah Nov 19 00:45:00 shocking Nov 19 00:46:30 * ptitjes looking for super(...) definitions in the language ref Nov 19 00:49:45 (my neck hurts like hell, I'm really going to sleep) Nov 19 00:49:49 Ainulindale, me, too Nov 19 00:49:56 my eyes are almost closed Nov 19 00:50:11 that's because you're a youngster Nov 19 00:50:11 And you're not even working tomorrow Nov 19 00:50:30 I'll be at work very early Nov 19 00:50:31 (That is 10h30 :-p) Nov 19 00:50:47 ptitjes: hmmm seems the pyo wasn't generated Nov 19 00:50:47 It seems to work Nov 19 00:50:58 ahhhhhh Nov 19 00:50:59 I can't understand why changes didn't reflect themselves Nov 19 00:51:00 Ainulindale, I'll be at school at 9.40 ;) Nov 19 00:51:23 quickdev: school, peh ! Nov 19 00:51:23 you should go to sleep you are too much tired Nov 19 00:51:32 ptitjes: it should regenerate itself Nov 19 00:51:49 did you save your file ??? Nov 19 00:51:49 Ok so now Nov 19 00:51:49 ok ok ok joke Nov 19 00:52:28 releasing aux should call my answering machine Nov 19 00:52:37 nice!! Nov 19 00:52:37 and it does Nov 19 00:53:19 Ok I'll have something to commit tomorrow then Nov 19 00:53:31 I would yet be able to call normally (and also release the call) however I can't call anymore Nov 19 00:54:04 dialer3 crashes Nov 19 00:54:08 relaunch ophonekitd after killing it Nov 19 00:54:08 so good night Nov 19 00:54:09 But for now I'm off Nov 19 00:54:41 See you Nov 19 00:54:43 I'll do the same bye all! Nov 19 02:13:11 think making changes to a bitbake file during a compile will break the building? it hasnt been built just yet Nov 19 02:13:42 but it is doing the dependencies Nov 19 02:13:42 and i just added one ;)_ Nov 19 02:13:53 probably calculated that stuff at the get go eh? Nov 19 02:17:33 kd8ikt: never know when file is opened. might be read in completely in the beginning, so... :-/ Nov 19 02:18:07 its ok next package make should be faster anyway Nov 19 02:18:09 i think Nov 19 02:18:13 wanted ettercap with gtk support Nov 19 02:18:38 kd8ikt: also if handle is on old file, any edit and replace is ignored until reopen Nov 19 02:18:38 so i removed the disable-gtk part and added gtk+ to the depends Nov 19 02:21:01 and what about also making packages of its deps? Nov 19 02:21:14 i'm using bitbake -c build ettercap-ng Nov 19 02:22:55 only ipkg i see is ettercap Nov 19 02:35:37 been flipping through all the docs to no avail **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 19 02:59:57 2008