**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 15 14:38:29 2008 Dec 15 14:38:48 I saw the ophonekitd is starting rather late on the boot sequence, because it's started after X, is it possible to split it to two different daemons or something so it'll register to gsm a lot earlier in the boot sequence? Dec 15 14:40:20 Ainulindale: dont do that again;-) Dec 15 14:41:16 lpotter: what about our christmas gift? Dec 15 14:42:46 BluesLee: do what? Dec 15 14:43:49 Ainulindale: please dont get all that stuff messed up ... i thought the unstable branch is for those testing activities ... Dec 15 14:44:07 Unstable branch isn't ready yet. Dec 15 14:44:12 And this is a testing branch, anyway. Dec 15 14:44:16 Don't expect stable until release. Dec 15 14:44:36 :( i can't find a proxy that doesn't stop the download after a few MB's :( Dec 15 14:44:39 Well, I have to go anyway. Dec 15 14:44:42 See you. Dec 15 14:44:46 cu Dec 15 14:45:34 bye Dec 15 14:48:03 can anybody upload http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary to somewhere? Dec 15 14:48:29 bearstech.com keeps timing out, and with public proxies i can only download a max of 10 MB's so far Dec 15 14:56:37 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary.part Dec 15 14:56:52 sorry, ETA from 1h to 1d :-( Dec 15 14:57:02 FWIW Dec 15 14:58:02 DocScrutinizer: thanks a lot, but Tig| is also alredy going to do it Dec 15 14:58:11 sof it it takes you that long, just cancel it, thanks very much Dec 15 14:58:27 lol, so probably we are slowing each other down Dec 15 14:58:36 :) Dec 15 14:59:39 wow, 1.3M already transfered. kicked it ;-) Dec 15 15:00:25 ;-) Dec 15 15:00:38 tig is at 52MB :) Dec 15 15:01:31 .TW internet. errx Dec 15 15:32:47 Ainulindale: so, http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 should work now ? Dec 15 15:33:28 and tje lite image ;) Dec 15 15:33:33 *the Dec 15 15:34:32 soltys: i think Ainulindale is not here atm Dec 15 15:34:36 but he said it should work Dec 15 15:34:40 i'm flashing it right now Dec 15 15:35:26 Zorkman: let us know then once you do ;) Dec 15 15:40:45 ok, but'll it'll take a while gonna go to the store also Dec 15 15:41:46 Zorkman: no problem we can wait ;) Dec 15 16:20:02 Zorkman: so, got it yet? ;) Dec 15 16:57:13 viq: booting Dec 15 16:57:33 cool, thanks Dec 15 16:57:39 np Dec 15 16:57:46 but i haven't yet inserted my sim Dec 15 16:57:59 so will investigate gsm part at a later time Dec 15 16:58:55 language selection came up after 2min Dec 15 16:59:04 but i can't select one Dec 15 16:59:51 i booted with usb inserted, and it doesn't detect it, so not charging, will replug it Dec 15 17:00:20 see also if usb networking works Dec 15 17:00:23 now it works Dec 15 17:00:27 ssh'd in Dec 15 17:00:33 or is it instead usb notworking ;) Dec 15 17:00:35 cool Dec 15 17:00:57 the default keyboard is stil the small one Dec 15 17:01:16 i prefer http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=773#p8062 Dec 15 17:03:22 Ainulindale: here i am Dec 15 17:03:57 too bad the sms's are still stored on SIM :( Dec 15 17:04:15 i would have thought that that would be something trivial to program... Dec 15 17:05:15 the settings app is not very usefull.... Dec 15 17:05:31 gsm, bluetooth, brightness, profile, suspend all state "unknown" Dec 15 17:05:36 and you can't change a thing Dec 15 17:06:02 Ainulindale: are u there? Dec 15 17:08:33 :o Dec 15 17:08:45 free/pimp your phone? german-style? Dec 15 17:08:49 Zorkman: that's probably becouse you haven't inserted SIM ;) Dec 15 17:09:14 Zorkman: suspend? Dec 15 17:09:21 soltys: what has my SIM to say about suspend/bluetooth? Dec 15 17:09:26 Zorkman: also supposedly power button brings up some menu Dec 15 17:10:01 viq: when you press the powerbutton a window pops up; you can choose betweend susend, lock ,shutdown, abort or the home button Dec 15 17:10:08 locking does not work, suspend does Dec 15 17:10:11 Zorkman: nothing but as i remember the "unknown" status is realted to no SIM Dec 15 17:10:48 i'm suspending and will test the alarm Dec 15 17:11:04 ok, thank you Dec 15 17:11:09 np Dec 15 17:11:20 ttp://i35.tinypic.com/jg5gte.jpg <-- i buyed it !! Dec 15 17:11:31 it works :) Dec 15 17:11:58 congratz hire, Dec 15 17:12:01 but what is it? :) Dec 15 17:12:34 it is a thing absolutely useless Dec 15 17:12:37 but damn Dec 15 17:12:40 it is tux! Dec 15 17:12:43 ^^ Dec 15 17:12:55 :D Dec 15 17:13:05 What? What? Dec 15 17:13:59 in the butt Dec 15 17:14:05 i hate browsing in pythm Dec 15 17:14:22 :P Dec 15 17:16:03 hello,i've illume on the openmoko on SHR...but when i press the standby button a menu comes up(and it goes in standby too)...how do I remove that(where is it in the settings ?) if i remove the execute key binding would it break something? Dec 15 17:17:12 i had the same GNUtoo Dec 15 17:17:14 i reflashed :p Dec 15 17:17:32 Zorkman, ah ok...should be opkg update then Dec 15 17:17:41 s/update/upgrade/ Dec 15 17:17:41 GNUtoo meant: Zorkman, ah ok...should be opkg upgrade then Dec 15 17:18:00 by the way what is "delayed action" ? Dec 15 17:18:49 mmm http://www.mail-archive.com/commitlog@lists.openmoko.org/msg00903.html Dec 15 17:19:09 mabe i should remove delayed action and it will work? Dec 15 17:20:11 i think it's that Dec 15 17:22:40 Zorkman, it works it was that...the key delayed action in the shortcut configuration in the input in the settings Dec 15 17:23:24 by the way is there a file that get executed on standby and on resume...i'd like to add some fixes to resume(xrandr -o 0) Dec 15 17:29:38 hi Dec 15 17:30:07 hi Dec 15 17:31:02 the dialer crashes for me and after that contacts and messages dont work Dec 15 17:32:01 i see new images, will try them later Dec 15 17:32:09 BluesLee, with my new package? Dec 15 17:32:13 Could you help to debug it? Dec 15 17:32:49 i think there is no problem with your package Dec 15 17:33:18 BluesLee, are you using it? Dec 15 17:33:21 flashing/upgrading issues ?! Dec 15 17:33:48 in the moment my neo is unusable and unreliable Dec 15 17:34:13 i have to reflash Dec 15 17:34:36 but i use your packages as it was working for me Dec 15 17:35:59 switching for old nokia handy the next hours:-) Dec 15 17:36:41 I have an occasional issue (Dec 9 images, gta01) with suspend ceasing to work Dec 15 17:36:48 I push the power button & nothing happens Dec 15 17:37:18 I can't reproduce it consistently, though. I do have a log snapshot for framework and ophonekit (although I doubt opkd has anything to do with it) Dec 15 17:37:44 Otherwise the new rootfs image with mwester's kernel is pretty darn nice on my gta01 :-) Dec 15 17:38:29 I should say, I can't consistently make suspend stop working. Once it stops working, it stays stopped. Not even restarting frameworkd & ophonekitd helps Dec 15 17:43:28 there was an alternative default keyboard config at http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=773#p8062 ; anybody else still has it? Dec 15 17:58:04 who is responsible for /var/db missing? whom to spank? ;) Dec 15 17:58:26 * bumbl_ hides Dec 15 17:58:41 :p Dec 15 17:58:52 bumbl: you don't have to hide - you're not responsible :D Dec 15 18:00:00 quickdev: ophonekitd in unstable is crashing because /var/db is missing Dec 15 18:00:10 do you know which package is supposed to create it? Dec 15 18:00:34 * mrmoku thinks /var/db is some base filesystem stuff... Dec 15 18:01:06 mrmoku, which image? shr-unstable? Dec 15 18:01:22 yep Dec 15 18:01:56 quickdev: do you have /var/db in testing? Dec 15 18:02:53 mrmoku, yeah, I have it Dec 15 18:03:14 quickdev: can you ask opkg what package it belongs to? Dec 15 18:03:16 mrmoku, the ophonekitd package should create it if not yet there...afaik Dec 15 18:03:36 mrmoku: bug Ainulindale Dec 15 18:03:48 quickdev: hmm, that does not work then... it crashes because it can't create the phonelog db in /var/db Dec 15 18:03:59 Ainulindale: ping, have to bug you :-) Dec 15 18:11:34 anyone has this keyboard: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/4c0754ecacb3486c2c41a3b24d200b19.png Dec 15 18:12:19 it's very inefficient to have everyone check the image :) Dec 15 18:13:06 Zorkman, it's BluesLee Dec 15 18:13:18 Zorkman, iirc it's in the illume keyboard debate page Dec 15 18:13:19 check there. Dec 15 18:14:05 thanks Dec 15 18:22:23 bah can't find it on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#illume Dec 15 18:22:33 did find a better "numbers" kb Dec 15 18:22:58 Hi! Does someone know which program is responsible for initiating the suspend on the SHR distribtion? Right after booting my phone, suspend works but after a while I cannot even put it into suspend with the power button (let alone suspend after a timeout). Dec 15 18:24:24 does opkg upgrade include the fastboot patches? Dec 15 18:25:05 flohack, opkg updated & upgraded? Dec 15 18:25:43 quickdev: yesterday, yes Dec 15 18:26:00 flohack, do it again please. Is something updated? Dec 15 18:26:10 quickdev: sure, just a second Dec 15 18:26:19 TAsn: i don't think so Dec 15 18:26:33 :\ Dec 15 18:30:45 is there a way to chose your default dictionary file? Dec 15 18:30:53 (iof you have multiple languages installed) Dec 15 18:31:13 hey MarcOChapeau Dec 15 18:31:35 hi there :) Dec 15 18:31:58 Zorkman, as it's probably sorted by names Dec 15 18:32:15 try renaming them in the wished order (I know, its an ugly hack) Dec 15 18:32:15 ;] Dec 15 18:32:24 Joerg: http://aving.net/usa/Exhibition/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=49261&SP_Num=93&mn_name=exhi&BTB_Num=6401 Dec 15 18:32:59 was? Dec 15 18:33:19 soll ich da edz draufklicken? Dec 15 18:33:28 YEAH! IT WORKS! :D Dec 15 18:33:43 a21, what works? Dec 15 18:33:47 Ainulindale, shr updated and works again Dec 15 18:34:08 quickdev, i had problems with frameworkd Dec 15 18:34:20 ahh, and I hoped you applied buzzfix big-C Dec 15 18:35:00 nevermind, N8! Dec 15 18:35:23 :D Dec 15 18:35:33 quickdev, you know, the bug about network registration Dec 15 18:35:34 Joerg :P Dec 15 18:35:40 quickdev: Ok, there are a few updates...I'll test again after the upgrade is finished Dec 15 18:36:08 (gsm network) Dec 15 18:36:15 buy GTA02! never will get a better phone ;-) Dec 15 18:36:38 Zorkman: Are there packages for the keyboard dictionary files? Dec 15 18:36:48 ffs I just upgraded shr Dec 15 18:36:54 today I was with my second system (dear dual boot ^_^) Dec 15 18:36:55 and now there's no ssh ;[ Dec 15 18:37:12 flohack, could you tell me which updates? Dec 15 18:37:18 pastebin :) Dec 15 18:37:21 TAsn, ssh it there but usb0 is not configured Dec 15 18:37:29 not the default gateway Dec 15 18:37:29 i did too ... but i have ssh ;p Dec 15 18:37:30 no kiddin' Dec 15 18:37:31 oh, sucks. Dec 15 18:37:49 since the terminal doesn't start as well, i fell kinda hopeless ;] Dec 15 18:37:53 Dave: nice Dec 15 18:38:01 want to have Dec 15 18:38:05 a21, got any idea how to fix that? Dec 15 18:38:05 TAsn, you can open a terminal on OM and fix your net config Dec 15 18:38:11 a21, I can't. Dec 15 18:38:17 the terminal isn't working. Dec 15 18:38:21 won't start. ;\ Dec 15 18:38:22 cool Dec 15 18:38:23 :D Dec 15 18:38:44 do you have your shr on flash or microsd? Dec 15 18:38:44 is it possible they shipped me an iphone and not a moko? Dec 15 18:38:51 good idea. Dec 15 18:39:06 quickdev: Quite a lot, maybe the upgrade yesterday simply did not work. angstrom-version, dbus, e-wm-config-illume-shr frameworkd fso-gpsd initscripts kernel kernel-module-* libdbus libframeworkd-phonegui0.... Dec 15 18:39:24 quickdev: Shall I continue :-) Dec 15 18:39:39 mount your microsd directly with an usb reader and fix it Dec 15 18:40:39 flohack, try to reboot and check if it works. Otherwise I'd suggest you to reflash your phone. On the new images, a system menu is appearing after pressing on POWER: Dec 15 18:41:52 a21, what file to change Dec 15 18:41:55 and what to? Dec 15 18:42:06 quickdev: Ok, thanks! BWT: can openmoko-contacts3 import something? Dec 15 18:42:48 TAsn, /etc/network/interfaces Dec 15 18:43:27 where and what? Dec 15 18:43:28 flohack, not yet Dec 15 18:43:38 flohack, but you're invited to contribute to frameworkd's PIM :) Dec 15 18:43:51 a21, it seems fine to me. Dec 15 18:44:12 quickdev: Is compiling individual SHR applications supported with the OM toolchain? Dec 15 18:44:24 flohack, i think so Dec 15 18:44:31 though it's zero time to check anyway. Dec 15 18:45:19 quickdev: i flashed latest image last night, and here's the result of an opkg upgrade just now: http://brokenmoko.pastebin.com/d7c29c96d Dec 15 18:45:47 flohack, yes, it is, if you install all dependencies. I'd suggest you to set up the openembedded build system...it allways similar things ;) Dec 15 18:46:28 quickdev: As we discussed yesterday, building the OE tree takes about 20h... Dec 15 18:46:47 a21, it's the same as in fso and in fso everything is works correctly\ Dec 15 18:46:53 flohack, on my machine half of the time ;) Dec 15 18:47:03 quickdev: still too much :-) Dec 15 18:47:44 TAsn, i had the problem yesterday that USB networking wasn't set up on boot Dec 15 18:47:51 a21, they both even have the same md5sum. Dec 15 18:47:57 TommyB, how do I set it? Dec 15 18:48:08 one thing that helped me was to reinsert some parantheses into /etc/init.d/rc Dec 15 18:48:10 quickdev: Which application is supposed to set the suspend timeout? The settings application (2008.9 lookalike), the wrench? Dec 15 18:48:32 TommyB, please tell me where. Dec 15 18:48:44 flohack, the settings app Dec 15 18:49:01 here: http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-overlay.git;a=blob;f=patches/fastboot/0007-sysvinit-Simplify-rc-and-rcS.patch;h=b5783714f0206ce6bb7415920b624d8a91e78ce5;hb=468f298098f0d4e6261de43b494867c69bd92589#l48 Dec 15 18:49:25 i guess the problem was that without those parantheses, the init scripts are sourced instead of executed in a subshell Dec 15 18:49:39 now when one of those scripts calls "exit", i kills that whole stage of the boot process Dec 15 18:49:59 TAsn, check also the networking script at boot time Dec 15 18:50:09 it's not launched by sysv Dec 15 18:50:32 TommyB, is this git the correct version? Dec 15 18:50:36 or still broken? Dec 15 18:50:59 that's the patch that broke it for me ;) it is the current version in shr, i think Dec 15 18:51:06 i c. Dec 15 18:51:08 thanks. Dec 15 18:51:12 i fixed it for me by undoing that change, i.e. put those parantheses back in Dec 15 18:51:15 quickdev: suspend is still broken...not even the power button menu helps Dec 15 18:51:44 TommyB, in lines 44-46? Dec 15 18:52:09 quickdev: I'll reflash Dec 15 18:52:17 flohack, you must rm -rf ~/.e Dec 15 18:52:48 TAsn, could be, i don't know the exact line numbers in the file Dec 15 18:52:49 a21: but suspends worked before the first call Dec 15 18:52:51 flohack, try a21's advice ;) Dec 15 18:52:59 I meant in the patch Dec 15 18:53:03 sec, i'll try ;] Dec 15 18:53:12 starting from line 48 in the patch Dec 15 18:54:05 yeaha. Dec 15 18:54:07 cool. Dec 15 18:54:09 thanks, trying. Dec 15 18:55:15 TAsn, is your net ok now? Dec 15 18:55:40 booting... Dec 15 18:55:51 TommyB, did you open a bug for it? Dec 15 18:56:22 nope... i told my story in this channel yesterday, and was told to reflash ;) Dec 15 18:56:43 TommyB, they always say that ;\ Dec 15 18:57:00 which actually worked... some initscripts were updated too, and now it works even without fiddling in /etc/init.d/rc Dec 15 18:57:16 but i suspect that this is still a bug, it just doesn't occur in the default configuration Dec 15 18:57:17 heeh. Dec 15 18:57:25 so maybe i should open a ticket ;) Dec 15 18:58:02 does it work for you now, TAsn? Dec 15 18:58:07 YEAH! ]; Dec 15 18:58:10 i meant Dec 15 18:58:13 YEAH! :} Dec 15 18:58:14 thanks. Dec 15 18:58:20 cool ;) Dec 15 18:58:39 Yo! Dec 15 18:59:09 TAsn: Why did you say I did not do my job ? Dec 15 18:59:17 :( Dec 15 18:59:23 ptitjes, you forgot to add Dec 15 18:59:27 the sql file Dec 15 18:59:30 to the .bb Dec 15 18:59:39 so it wasn't included in the package ;] Dec 15 18:59:49 anyhow, I just tested it, and it's working great. ;] Dec 15 19:00:06 ptitjes, btw, did you see the new version? you can now change +- everything from the configs Dec 15 19:00:31 For you to know, maybe you had not updated your tree : Dec 15 19:00:56 39 hours ago, git says: http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr.git;a=commitdiff;h=500da2b70dae8cb83660ad6bbfa67f75dc4a9246 Dec 15 19:01:11 I think for everyone... many people mailed me about this Dec 15 19:01:18 http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-overlay.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a589c9368e003ac623ae8fb2ce2d794ce67848b Dec 15 19:01:56 Look at the last one it is 39 hours ago, and it is the addition to the bb file... Dec 15 19:02:00 ptitjes, weird, maybe the pack was broken. Dec 15 19:02:04 well anyhow, Dec 15 19:02:07 now it's working ;] Dec 15 19:02:10 raster Dec 15 19:02:14 oups, sorry Dec 15 19:02:14 because you updated Dec 15 19:02:19 grrrrrrrrrr Dec 15 19:02:26 ptitjes, i didn't use a local build Dec 15 19:02:37 but downloaded it right after Ainulindale said he built it... Dec 15 19:03:02 ptitjes, you're doing the phonelog integration, right? :) Dec 15 19:03:05 anyhow, you can now set you own date format (git version, not yet a pack) and change a lot. Dec 15 19:03:36 quickdev: no just done the logging, TAsn is doing a great gui Dec 15 19:03:37 ptitjes, just watch the /usr/share/phonelog/skeleton/phonelog.conf Dec 15 19:03:37 ;] Dec 15 19:03:40 quickdev, is possible to change time and data w/o opening a terminal? :D Dec 15 19:04:05 anyone got gps working with shr from 12/15/2008 (the one in shr testing)? Dec 15 19:04:07 a21, we talked about it yesterday. It's still to be done Dec 15 19:04:08 a21, yeah, you open a text editor and write a python script and also make a desktop file ;] Dec 15 19:04:14 TAsn, any progress so far? :) Dec 15 19:04:15 a21: or you can use gpssight Dec 15 19:04:25 quickdev, concerning the time? Dec 15 19:04:37 But why did Ainulindale created yet another git ????? Dec 15 19:04:39 no, we said it would be better to integrate it in exposure... Dec 15 19:04:41 TAsn, concerning phonelog based on ophonekitd Dec 15 19:04:51 It should have been in the shr.git! Dec 15 19:04:54 quickdev, any progress? are you kidding me Dec 15 19:04:58 opkg install pyphonelog Dec 15 19:05:00 anyway... do you know why OM is so imprecise about time? Dec 15 19:05:02 it's there for a long time now Dec 15 19:05:10 TAsn, is it already based on ophonekitd? Dec 15 19:05:13 actually, before phonelogging was even in the git repos ;] Dec 15 19:05:17 quickdev, duh! Dec 15 19:05:32 the daemon is not in the shr repos, but the gui is... Dec 15 19:05:41 in a week it lost minutes! Dec 15 19:05:49 a21, yeah ;[ Dec 15 19:05:58 I loose hours. Dec 15 19:06:10 TAsn, could you be more clear? so it's not yet using ophonekitd's logging? Dec 15 19:06:16 yeah sometimes also hours Dec 15 19:06:23 quickdev, I'll try to be as clear as I can Dec 15 19:06:40 opkg install pyphonelog and you will get what you want (i.e yeah) Dec 15 19:06:41 quickdev: the logging in ophonekitd is in git for two weeks now :) Dec 15 19:06:43 TAsn, just started the new shr-lite image. THere's a phonelog icons on my desktop ;) Dec 15 19:06:45 it is using. Dec 15 19:06:53 quickdev, hehe cool ;] Dec 15 19:06:59 give it a test drive... Dec 15 19:07:01 BTW did the icon changed ? Dec 15 19:07:01 ptitjes, I know, but I did not know that it's usable :) Dec 15 19:07:12 no probs :) Dec 15 19:07:12 TAsn, I will, sorry for being so ignorant :) Dec 15 19:07:24 and be sure to edit ~./phonelog/phonelog.conf to your likings ;] Dec 15 19:07:27 ptitjes, now ;[ Dec 15 19:07:33 I need a new icon...! Dec 15 19:07:37 any suggestions? Dec 15 19:07:38 quickdev: I'm just uploading my home-builds of your gui work Dec 15 19:08:05 TAsl: We should ask Hire. I think he is the one who did icons for SHR... Dec 15 19:08:13 cool. Dec 15 19:08:14 TAsn, which is latest release # of phonelog? Dec 15 19:08:15 s/TAsl/TAsn/ Dec 15 19:08:21 ptitjes meant: TAsn: We should ask Hire. I think he is the one who did icons for SHR... Dec 15 19:08:28 yes, ask Hire Dec 15 19:08:28 a21, the one in git. Dec 15 19:08:40 though other than that, 0.15.2 Dec 15 19:09:05 in git it's the "testing" which isn't less stable than the one in 0.15.2... Dec 15 19:09:12 *the one marked as... Dec 15 19:09:18 quickdev: does the new image include you gui ? Dec 15 19:09:28 well, im off. Dec 15 19:09:31 cya till later. Dec 15 19:09:35 ptitjes, please ask Hire. Dec 15 19:09:43 I'll do Dec 15 19:09:54 ptitjes, no, not yet. Ainulindale is still getting segfaults, although I did not encountered them. Dec 15 19:09:59 Hire: ping Dec 15 19:10:25 mmmh... why after latest upgrade I cannot launch my phonelog? Dec 15 19:10:28 ptitjes, btw, i'll hopefully commit the refresh when got focus option you suggested tonight ;] Dec 15 19:10:37 Ok. I try my local repo so (I modified my local.conf to include ...rev-unstable.inc :)) Dec 15 19:10:37 (shr upgrade) Dec 15 19:10:39 a21, Dec 15 19:10:48 killall ophonekitd Dec 15 19:10:55 rm /var/db/phonelog.db Dec 15 19:11:01 TAsn: cool! Dec 15 19:11:08 DISPLAY=:0.0 ophonekitd & Dec 15 19:11:20 ptitjes, you gotta think about a way to fix that. Dec 15 19:11:45 people that opkg upgraded to this version of ophonekitd Dec 15 19:11:46 TAsn: Nobody should have a /var/db/phonelog.db as it was not in the image!! Dec 15 19:11:49 don't get the call view. Dec 15 19:11:54 ptitjes, it was... Dec 15 19:11:58 not in the image Dec 15 19:12:00 ouch Dec 15 19:12:04 but in packages. ;\ Dec 15 19:12:06 I've not any rm /var/db/phonelog.db Dec 15 19:12:06 though it was not! Dec 15 19:12:24 a21, i c. Dec 15 19:12:35 try running it fro terminal and tell me what's the output. Dec 15 19:12:46 i'll try to review it soon. Dec 15 19:12:53 I've though a bout a way to handle this (a table with a database schema revision number) Dec 15 19:14:59 ptitjes, clicking "call" is not working yet? Dec 15 19:15:24 TAsn, why not using elementary? :) Dec 15 19:15:32 TAsn, dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.smartphone.opimd was not provided by any .service files Dec 15 19:15:33 anway..I like that app :) Dec 15 19:16:14 what? Dec 15 19:16:21 Hi Hire Dec 15 19:16:22 do you want an icon, ptitjes? Dec 15 19:16:30 a21, oh, this means you don't have a /var/db/phonelog.db file Dec 15 19:16:34 yes :) for TAsn' app Dec 15 19:16:50 which can only imply you are using an older version of ophonekitd Dec 15 19:16:53 TAsn, I've allready said that :D Dec 15 19:16:56 opkg install ophonekitd Dec 15 19:17:00 a21, hehe ;] Dec 15 19:17:07 a21: if it is the case look at the log of ophonekitd Dec 15 19:17:08 upgrade your ophonekitd Dec 15 19:17:20 that does that app? Dec 15 19:17:25 i need some idea ... Dec 15 19:17:26 Call log Dec 15 19:17:30 you know, i am stupid :( Dec 15 19:17:39 Don't think you are :) Dec 15 19:17:42 Hire, install it and find out ;] Dec 15 19:17:47 ainulindale can confirm that Dec 15 19:17:51 shouldn't it automatically upgrade by opkg upgrade? Dec 15 19:17:58 a21, it should Dec 15 19:18:00 héhéhé :) Dec 15 19:18:05 a21, Dec 15 19:18:10 killall ophonekitd Dec 15 19:18:19 DISPLAY=:0.0 ophonekitd & Dec 15 19:18:26 again kill? Dec 15 19:18:26 and it'll work. Dec 15 19:18:28 :D Dec 15 19:18:37 no it does not Dec 15 19:18:37 a21, oh, you already did that? Dec 15 19:18:38 Hire: It is an app that display the call log (received, outgoing, missed and all calls) Dec 15 19:18:42 yep Dec 15 19:18:52 a21, anyhow, it's ptitjes's fault ;] Dec 15 19:18:55 talk to him about it.p Dec 15 19:18:58 I gtg. ;] Dec 15 19:19:00 BTW TAsn did change the 'incomming' tab by 'received' ? Dec 15 19:19:00 lol Dec 15 19:19:12 ok Dec 15 19:19:14 ptitjes, actually I did two things about it. Dec 15 19:19:24 i will do it for you Dec 15 19:19:26 a21: Please need the output of ophonekitd!! Dec 15 19:19:27 because I love you Dec 15 19:19:27 the first was to change it to received, and the second Dec 15 19:19:30 ok, I'll remove that junky program :P Dec 15 19:19:45 you can now change the tab names from the config ;] Dec 15 19:19:53 yay Dec 15 19:20:01 nice: Dec 15 19:20:01 a21, hehe, just listen to ptitjes ! ;] Dec 15 19:20:03 nice! Dec 15 19:20:11 ptitjes, thought you'd like it. Dec 15 19:20:17 you can also change the default started page Dec 15 19:20:18 I do! Dec 15 19:20:18 ... Dec 15 19:20:19 ;] Dec 15 19:20:34 i.e instead of missed, you can start with the general list. Dec 15 19:20:50 and you can also change (only with the git version) the date format shown...! Dec 15 19:20:56 now I'm really off. Dec 15 19:21:10 ptitjes, just look at the skeleton config file in the share/phonelog dir... Dec 15 19:21:13 cya. Dec 15 19:21:17 quickdev: Which daemon is responsible for suspending the device? With or without the timeout Dec 15 19:21:33 TAsn: sorry I'll look it when it will be on my phone Dec 15 19:21:41 ophonekitd output is full of idle notifier state Dec 15 19:21:43 (currently rebuilding task-shr-feed) Dec 15 19:22:00 a21: please pastebin Dec 15 19:22:04 flohack, frameworkd sends a "suspend" signal, which is configurable through shr-settings. If ophoneitd receives that signal, it suspends. Dec 15 19:22:19 flohack, that's auto suspend only Dec 15 19:22:42 quickdev: do you know enough DBus to tell me about its scalability ? Dec 15 19:23:09 quickdev: Ok, and what does the illume power button menu? Dec 15 19:23:11 I talked with mickeyl, and he told me that future of current implementation of opimd is not so sure Dec 15 19:23:21 So I want to propose a new/nice API Dec 15 19:23:24 flohack, afaik it uses apm -s directly Dec 15 19:23:38 gimme a pastebin url pls Dec 15 19:23:42 ptitjes, I don't know that much about it :) Dec 15 19:24:02 (I'm in a hurry sorry) Dec 15 19:24:09 pastebin.ca Dec 15 19:24:13 pastebin.com Dec 15 19:24:22 quickdev: Ok thanks a lot! Dec 15 19:24:22 google pastebin Dec 15 19:24:28 :) Dec 15 19:25:04 http://pastebin.ca/1286113 Dec 15 19:25:15 :) Dec 15 19:25:31 gtg now, c ya soon Dec 15 19:25:33 quickdev: I'm wondering whether having a DBus object per Contact, Messages, and co (as is done currently AIUI) is not a bad idea... Dec 15 19:26:37 a21: please your version of opimd Dec 15 19:26:46 looks like you don't have any database feature! Dec 15 19:27:06 opimd?! was released?! Dec 15 19:27:25 a21: maybe won't Dec 15 19:27:31 as I understand it Dec 15 19:28:15 I'll check ltr, c u Dec 15 19:28:21 tnx anyway Dec 15 19:28:33 TAsn: do_fetch failed!!! :( Dec 15 19:28:40 :o Dec 15 19:28:57 ptitjes, fetching what? Dec 15 19:28:58 I can't build pyphonelog '( Dec 15 19:29:20 ptitjes, weird. Dec 15 19:29:26 it works for Ainulindale and for me. Dec 15 19:29:39 great :\ Dec 15 19:29:42 ptitjes, what does it say in detail? Dec 15 19:29:54 anyhow, it's python, just manually get the phonelog script if you are so anxious ;] Dec 15 19:30:23 TAsn: I build all task-shr-feed to also get the work from quickdev! Dec 15 19:31:20 i c. Dec 15 19:31:26 well no idea, now im really not here. Dec 15 19:31:30 TAsn, ptitjes: i'm having phonelog issues too: http://brokenmoko.pastebin.com/d313fd2d0 Dec 15 19:31:50 sicu, Dec 15 19:31:52 any idea why it can't find the table ? Dec 15 19:32:02 do you have the latest ophonekitd? Dec 15 19:32:25 ahh .. just read what you posted above ... willl give it a try Dec 15 19:32:30 hehe thanks. Dec 15 19:32:30 ;] Dec 15 19:32:39 NOW IM NOT HERE ANYMORE!!! Dec 15 19:32:47 quickdev: here is what it says http://pastebin.com/m4b097bab Dec 15 19:32:49 sicu, btw, if you can, since im not here atm Dec 15 19:32:54 LOL Dec 15 19:32:57 i did it Dec 15 19:33:10 No no please don't go! Dec 15 19:33:13 please add a section to the wiki called common issues Dec 15 19:33:18 and add you problem and the fix Dec 15 19:33:20 cya. Dec 15 19:33:27 (everybody sing! yes) Dec 15 19:33:31 ptitjes, Ainulindale wrote most of my bb. Dec 15 19:33:34 ask him ;] Dec 15 19:33:50 hahaha! Dec 15 19:33:54 :) Dec 15 19:34:07 ptitjes, TAsn, God: http://i37.tinypic.com/jfdedf.png Dec 15 19:34:25 Hire, you re a genius Dec 15 19:34:36 that is wonderfull! Dec 15 19:34:47 now i want sex Dec 15 19:34:51 BTW God is here ? Dec 15 19:34:54 Hire: looks good Dec 15 19:34:55 God: ping Dec 15 19:35:30 ptitjes, Pong Dec 15 19:35:42 blasphemous nick .... Dec 15 19:35:48 LOL Dec 15 19:36:51 Hire: could you add it the shr-theme ? Dec 15 19:37:31 WAIT Dec 15 19:37:48 Ho Hire, looking at it another I think its would be better for a task application Dec 15 19:38:17 why? :( Dec 15 19:38:24 i put a nice-to-see clock Dec 15 19:38:25 Maybe you should add a phone picture with arrow meaning incomming/outgoing ? Dec 15 19:38:29 with a list Dec 15 19:38:41 yes but clock+list means tasks for me Dec 15 19:38:45 so it seems to be "an app with a list and a clock inside"... a call log! Dec 15 19:38:53 i am genius Dec 15 19:39:01 sure ... i can... Dec 15 19:39:07 no clock+list = tasks Dec 15 19:39:31 clock+phone+incomming/outgoing arrows = call log Dec 15 19:39:36 quickdev: I can reproduce the suspend issue: It works until I receive a call and stops working thereafter. apm -s works still fine though Dec 15 19:39:38 sorry to bother Dec 15 19:39:43 i will hate you :/ Dec 15 19:39:49 hehe Dec 15 19:39:55 quickdev: I have not reflashed, but just removed ~/.e Dec 15 19:40:22 Ainulindale: ping Dec 15 19:40:40 Hire: ;) Dec 15 19:41:23 ptitjes: it will be a bit hard Dec 15 19:41:57 Hire: really ? Dec 15 19:42:07 no, i am kidding Dec 15 19:42:13 :) Dec 15 19:42:35 quickev: who can I ask about DBus ? Dec 15 19:42:51 flohack, I don't know..maybe try with latest Dec 15 19:43:09 s/quickev/quickdev/ Dec 15 19:43:10 ptitjes meant: quickdev: who can I ask about DBus ? Dec 15 19:43:46 ptitjes, people in #dbus :) Dec 15 19:43:58 :) how stupid am I! Dec 15 19:46:35 ptitjes Dec 15 19:46:42 too much stuff here Dec 15 19:46:51 ? Dec 15 19:46:55 if I put fr+arrows+clock Dec 15 19:47:02 becomes too much ugly :( Dec 15 19:47:12 And a simple phone like : Dec 15 19:47:16 if I use instead fr+clock? Dec 15 19:47:55 http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/data/ Dec 15 19:49:09 :o Dec 15 19:51:13 TommyB: I reverted the sourcing of initscripts... Thanks. Dec 15 19:51:32 Hire: use the list + the arrows Dec 15 19:51:49 mrmoku: great, thanks Dec 15 19:52:46 ok... I see :D Dec 15 19:52:50 i am working on it Dec 15 19:55:14 quickdev: could you give me a list of package I have to build to get all the new gui ? Dec 15 19:55:34 Hire, THANKS! Dec 15 19:55:41 this one is beautiful! Dec 15 19:56:00 quickdev: I abandon to build task-shr-feed as pyphonelog blocks it all Dec 15 19:56:14 ptitjes, only libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0ß Dec 15 19:56:15 TAsn: but Hire will do better! ;) Dec 15 19:56:18 ptitjes, only libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 Dec 15 19:56:32 not openmoko-contacts3, dialer3, and all ? Dec 15 19:58:05 quickdev: they did not change ? Dec 15 19:58:21 ptitjes, not, they are only "loaders" Dec 15 19:58:28 ok :) Dec 15 19:58:45 dynamic ? no symbols undefined problems so Dec 15 19:59:21 ptitjes, on the meanwhile, i committed this one. Dec 15 19:59:47 TAsn! Hire is already working on a better one! Dec 15 20:00:20 cool. Dec 15 20:02:37 ptitjes: yes Dec 15 20:02:41 but give me some time Dec 15 20:02:49 ptitjes, please add the icon to /usr/share/pixmaps in the bb file, I don't have access. Dec 15 20:02:50 and i have to go out this evening .. Dec 15 20:03:27 Hire: smettilo di festegiare sempre ;) Dec 15 20:03:40 Hire: will it be ready before you go out ? Dec 15 20:04:05 TAsn: That icon should be added to shr-theme package Dec 15 20:04:25 IIRC Dec 15 20:04:32 ptitjes, I also want it on the package Dec 15 20:04:39 ptitjes: i don't know :( Dec 15 20:04:41 since it's the default icon for the package. Dec 15 20:08:05 Pong. Dec 15 20:09:27 Ainulindale: table tennis :p Dec 15 20:09:35 is there a screenlock in shr? Dec 15 20:10:04 Ainulindale: I updated the fastboot patches... Dec 15 20:10:10 fixed the whitespace error... Dec 15 20:10:21 and more importantly reverted sourcing of initscripts Dec 15 20:13:09 Hello Mr. Moku :) Dec 15 20:13:21 Hello Mr. Dave :p Dec 15 20:14:35 Ainulindale, hey, I changed my setup.py so the phonelog will ship with a different icon, may you please update the bb? the setup.py copies it to share/pixmaps/phonelog.png thanks in advance. Dec 15 20:14:38 mrmoku: reverted sourcing? Dec 15 20:14:42 BluesLee: yes Dec 15 20:14:48 someone released zedlock which should work on fso Dec 15 20:14:54 TAsn: I'll give you access to the overlay Dec 15 20:14:59 That way you'll stop bugging me Dec 15 20:15:17 hehe, this is in fact a better solution ;] Dec 15 20:15:35 Done. Dec 15 20:15:38 i will reflash to the latest image Dec 15 20:15:49 BluesLee: well we use illume lock Dec 15 20:16:04 Ainulindale: yeah, sourcing initscripts is not a good idea :-) Dec 15 20:16:06 okay, didnt now that it is implemented Dec 15 20:16:21 pam or whatever the name was Dec 15 20:16:24 (was not my idea - took it from the original fastboot patches) Dec 15 20:16:47 cool Dec 15 20:16:54 Ainulindale: it is almost not noticeable - max 1 sec (if I tested correctly) Dec 15 20:17:53 BluesLee: no relation to that screen lock Dec 15 20:17:56 mrmoku: ok :-) Dec 15 20:18:04 mrmoku: I'd like to give you ssh access to the buildhost too Dec 15 20:18:28 Ainulindale: if you insist... Dec 15 20:18:36 big risk, hehe Dec 15 20:18:45 are u sure? Dec 15 20:19:01 big responsibility... and lot's of people bugging me to do something ;) Dec 15 20:19:09 mrmoku: Well, ya think? :-> Dec 15 20:19:25 mrmoku: Just a way for me to tell people to bug you instead of me Dec 15 20:19:38 sorry for that Dec 15 20:19:39 Though as I compiled task-openmoko-feed, there's a good chance there will be less requests for apps. Dec 15 20:19:40 Ainulindale: hello Dec 15 20:19:43 ptitjes: pong Dec 15 20:19:49 :) Dec 15 20:19:52 quickdev? Dec 15 20:20:04 Ainulindale? Dec 15 20:20:13 sorry ladies Dec 15 20:20:21 i will finish it when i am again to home Dec 15 20:20:24 Ainulindale: for you to know, I TESTED my stuff this time :) Dec 15 20:20:33 That's a progress :-p Dec 15 20:20:37 Hire: have fun and get some good inspirations :-) Dec 15 20:20:41 Did you add the missing file this time? :-) Dec 15 20:21:41 Ainulindale: grrrrrrrrrr I did 39 hours ago! http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-overlay.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a589c9368e003ac623ae8fb2ce2d794ce67848b Dec 15 20:22:00 Hire: enjoy Dec 15 20:22:19 Ainulindale, missing files....you talked to me? Dec 15 20:22:52 Ainulindale: could you give me a hint about this one : http://pastebin.com/m4b097bab ? Dec 15 20:23:07 quickdev: no he talked to me :( Dec 15 20:23:20 ptitjes: easy Dec 15 20:23:28 You're missing the SRCREV apparently. Dec 15 20:23:33 Did you update shr-overlay? Dec 15 20:23:42 (Or did I forgot to push the rev?) Dec 15 20:24:11 Well it's there. Dec 15 20:24:16 So it's you, not being up to date, I'd say. Dec 15 20:24:35 I'm am all up-to-date but you told me to push the revision if someone else tested it Dec 15 20:24:47 What are you talking about? Dec 15 20:24:50 but this never happened until TAsn did test it with your build Dec 15 20:24:55 If you have this error, you're not up to datE. Dec 15 20:25:06 And I have no idea what you're talking about now Dec 15 20:25:10 is sim hotplugging supported? Dec 15 20:25:13 Ainulindale: sorry I was speaking about the "missing file" Dec 15 20:25:32 ptitjes: I tested your stuff today. It worked. I pushed the rev. Dec 15 20:25:41 gracias :) Dec 15 20:26:34 where can i find my micro sd in /media? Dec 15 20:26:46 And for my bitbake/pyphonelog problem, I'm up to date with git but I include rev-unstable.inc in my local.conf Dec 15 20:26:51 might this be the problem ? Dec 15 20:26:59 Yes. Dec 15 20:27:08 You have to include shr-autorev and shr-autorev-unstable Dec 15 20:27:12 In this order. Dec 15 20:27:20 oohhh! Dec 15 20:27:21 :) Dec 15 20:28:23 is there a way to find the mountpoint of my micro-sd? Dec 15 20:28:40 mount? Dec 15 20:28:45 @usr Dec 15 20:28:51 !? Dec 15 20:28:52 usr: I though it has to be set as auto in /etc/fstab... Dec 15 20:29:15 usr: just type "mount" in the console Dec 15 20:29:20 has to be set, i thought it allready is... Dec 15 20:29:32 and it will output you all mountpoints on your machine Dec 15 20:29:49 on /media/card... thx Dec 15 20:30:02 np Dec 15 20:30:03 :) Dec 15 20:35:14 Ainulindale: another thing... I built an unstable image and ophonekitd crashed because of no /var/db Dec 15 20:35:34 grrrrr Dec 15 20:35:41 who is supposed to create /var/db? Dec 15 20:35:59 some basefilesystem package or ophonekitd when trying to create the log db Dec 15 20:36:01 mrmoku: do you have the exact error message of ophonekitd ? Dec 15 20:36:02 ? Dec 15 20:36:23 mrmoku: the ophonekitd package should! Dec 15 20:36:51 pkg_postinst () { mkdir -p -m 755 /var/db } Dec 15 20:37:18 ptitjes: no, because I created it and restarted ophonekitd... Dec 15 20:37:38 mrmoku: and did this work then ? Dec 15 20:37:49 one question, should the new image be okay? sim auth crashed immediately Dec 15 20:38:00 Ah, well Dec 15 20:38:02 or do i need an upgrade? Dec 15 20:38:05 ptitjes: your bb file is awful Dec 15 20:38:05 ptitjes: yep Dec 15 20:38:08 pkg_postinst does nothing Dec 15 20:38:26 But it did on my phone! Dec 15 20:38:36 Well, consider yourself lucky then :-p Dec 15 20:38:43 What's the problem ? Dec 15 20:38:56 This shouldn't be done that way anyway Dec 15 20:39:04 Ainulindale, so when are you going to merge your outsourced metadata with org.oe.dev? Dec 15 20:39:59 On the first release. Dec 15 20:40:11 hehe, log.do_rootfs.2536:(offline root mode: not running ophonekitd.postinst) Dec 15 20:40:16 Ainulindale: You want that I create it in code ? Dec 15 20:40:25 I can, just tell me! Dec 15 20:40:33 No Dec 15 20:40:57 ptitjes: regarding ophonekitd Dec 15 20:40:58 You told me postinst, and I found it was the only way Dec 15 20:41:09 You have to test package install AND package on image :-) Dec 15 20:41:23 ok... Dec 15 20:41:31 I have only one phone!!!!! :( Dec 15 20:41:37 Heh :-) Dec 15 20:41:46 Life is hard! Dec 15 20:41:50 Exactly Dec 15 20:42:40 I will code something in vala Dec 15 20:43:03 a new project... yet again Dec 15 20:43:45 ptitjes: phonelog works "out of the box" in latest image =] Dec 15 20:44:34 ptitjes: what kind? :-) Dec 15 20:45:00 An over-dbus query builder/executor with multiple data-backends feature Dec 15 20:45:19 Well I'd rather see you build a rule manager for oeventsd :-> Dec 15 20:45:21 (nudge nudge) Dec 15 20:45:31 bumbl: as long as you restart ophonekitd, hotswapping SIMs will work =] Dec 15 20:46:02 ptitjes, it's committed ;] Dec 15 20:46:14 sicu, OMG, so cool! ;] Dec 15 20:46:21 =] Dec 15 20:46:21 sicu, hehe cool, do you like it? Dec 15 20:46:31 got any new ideas btw? Dec 15 20:46:36 yes ... it's great Dec 15 20:46:55 Ainulindale: Triggers could be added as signals to my-odatad Dec 15 20:47:04 hm, i just called my freerunner to test it, clicked on "accept", the window changed to "call active", but it kept ringing forever, and i couldn't hear anything on the calling phone Dec 15 20:47:11 has anyone else seen this? Dec 15 20:47:13 TAsn: ophonekitd was seriously borked so had to reflash, and now it works out of the box =] Dec 15 20:47:25 sicu, out of the box is important! ;] Dec 15 20:47:29 TommyB: known issue Dec 15 20:47:35 hehe .. indeed =] Dec 15 20:47:36 That's frameworkd Dec 15 20:47:59 Ainulindale, ok... any known workarounds, or known situations in which it does occur? Dec 15 20:48:00 sicu, anyhow, I added a known issues section in the wiki. Dec 15 20:48:04 And then you can only reboot... as I understand it Dec 15 20:48:11 Ainulindale, do I have access to the overlay repo? Dec 15 20:48:30 For an hour already Dec 15 20:48:48 TAsn: that was the Ainulindale: Done ! Dec 15 20:48:52 :) Dec 15 20:49:00 ptitjes, oh ;] Dec 15 20:49:14 TAsn: add some colours (red, green, blue) to the the arrows in the phonelog to make it more readable in the general tab =] Dec 15 20:49:29 sicu: TAsn: icons!! Dec 15 20:49:30 :) Dec 15 20:49:39 ptitjes, make me some~! Dec 15 20:49:48 sicu, do you think it's a good idea? Dec 15 20:49:55 ok, will do ;] Dec 15 20:49:58 I thought about it. Dec 15 20:50:04 sicu, huh? Dec 15 20:50:08 make some ;p Dec 15 20:50:15 sicu, icons? cool! ;] Dec 15 20:50:16 I think the ones from openmoko-dialer2 can be copied Dec 15 20:50:43 Sicku! Dec 15 20:51:01 mooh .. Dave! Dec 15 20:51:08 møø Dec 15 20:51:14 omc2 is coming soon! Dec 15 20:51:25 great! Dec 15 20:51:27 :] Dec 15 20:51:31 the most important app ever =] Dec 15 20:51:39 :D Dec 15 20:52:16 bah humbug. Dec 15 20:52:35 Dave: Operations Maintenance Center 2 Dec 15 20:52:37 ? Dec 15 20:52:43 what does this mean? * Could not obtain administrative lock Dec 15 20:52:54 It means something else is using opkg. Dec 15 20:57:11 ps ax |grep pkg Dec 15 20:57:28 TAsn: i only had outgoing calls when i made the assumption that it wouldn't be as readable as i wanted Dec 15 20:57:46 now you think it's readable enough? Dec 15 20:57:52 I should color it anyway... Dec 15 20:58:02 TAsn: but now that i have missed/incoming/made it's actually pretty good Dec 15 20:58:12 "failed to download task-shr-minimal-gtk" Dec 15 20:58:20 sicu, cool ;] Dec 15 20:58:28 but i will sketch up some anyways, so we can see Dec 15 20:58:33 whom should I poke, Ainulindale ? Dec 15 20:58:47 TAsn: going out for a couple hrs, but will do it as soon as i get back Dec 15 20:59:16 sicu, it will take me time to add them anyway, so, take your time ;] Dec 15 20:59:45 =] Dec 15 21:01:23 sicu: by the way, is pythm working fine? Dec 15 21:03:53 *testing Dec 15 21:05:43 Sargun. Dec 15 21:06:15 Ainulindale, Dec 15 21:06:17 $ git clone git+ssh://git@shr.bearstech.com/git/shr-overlay.git Dec 15 21:06:18 Initialized empty Git repository in /tmp/shr-overlay/.git/ Dec 15 21:06:18 ERROR:gitosis.serve.main:Repository read access denied Dec 15 21:06:18 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly Dec 15 21:06:18 ;\ Dec 15 21:07:20 Hmmm Dec 15 21:07:41 You have access... Dec 15 21:07:49 [group shr-overlay] Dec 15 21:07:50 writable = shr-overlay Dec 15 21:07:50 members = ainulindale quickdev hire ptitjes mrmoku tasn Dec 15 21:08:00 well do that Dec 15 21:08:07 git clone git@shr.bearstech.com:shr-overlay.git Dec 15 21:08:20 yeah Dec 15 21:08:20 TAsn: yep, without git in the path Dec 15 21:08:26 just noticed that. Dec 15 21:08:33 Ainulindale: meh, it doesnt play pid's ... will have to transfer some files Dec 15 21:08:34 I just copied it from the summary page ;] Dec 15 21:08:57 Ainulindale: is there a fix for the annoying python-etk dependency problem? Dec 15 21:09:08 None that I know of Dec 15 21:09:52 I added a patch for the openemoko license issue... would like to have one for python-etk too :-) Dec 15 21:11:11 Pyneo strikes again!? Dec 15 21:17:01 Ainulindale: "opkg update;opkg upgrade" fails on attempt to download task-shr-minimal-gtk Dec 15 21:17:17 Yeah, saw your comment Dec 15 21:17:23 Try to reupdate/upgrade Dec 15 21:17:32 And if it fails again, well, I can't do a thing Dec 15 21:17:32 Doing that now Dec 15 21:17:48 heh, ok Dec 15 21:18:00 whom should I poke then? Dec 15 21:18:25 Well, me. Dec 15 21:18:31 And in the near future, mrmoku Dec 15 21:18:43 By the way Dec 15 21:18:47 quickdev, mrmoku Dec 15 21:18:47 eh, failed Dec 15 21:18:58 Is today a national day in germany? Dec 15 21:19:05 I heard Horst Tappert died today Dec 15 21:19:06 Ainulindale, no, it isn't Dec 15 21:19:12 :-> Dec 15 21:19:35 (DOn't know if you know him, though, quickdev) Dec 15 21:19:39 (You're a bit young) Dec 15 21:19:47 and usb networking still doesn't work.. I was hoping I could upgrade instead of reflashing ;) Dec 15 21:19:57 Well, reflash once and for all. Dec 15 21:20:21 Already told you to =) Dec 15 21:20:25 I did less than a week ago! ;) Dec 15 21:20:40 And won't really be able untill tomorrow. I guess I'll do it then Dec 15 21:21:00 viq: well it's still unstable enough to imply that, sorry Dec 15 21:21:27 heh Dec 15 21:25:33 * mrmoku is old enought to know Tappert :-) Dec 15 21:25:36 -t Dec 15 21:26:24 quickdev: I'm threatening you to patch your stuff ;) Dec 15 21:26:42 mrmoku, what's wrong? Dec 15 21:26:43 quickdev: your package does not work anymore Dec 15 21:26:50 what's the problem? Dec 15 21:27:10 I'm fedup seeing rectangles in the message list :p Dec 15 21:28:02 quickdev: with the new image, dialer crashes and thereafter i cannot use messages, contacts as they crash too Dec 15 21:28:13 quickdev: Handle that \n god dammit! =) Dec 15 21:28:35 quickdev: did a downgrade to test the default one Dec 15 21:28:48 have to say though that the unstable image is almost too rock solid to be called unstable :D Dec 15 21:28:57 mrmoku: well Dec 15 21:28:59 Try with a full SIM Dec 15 21:29:00 :-> Dec 15 21:29:34 hehe, going to create some contacts Dec 15 21:29:37 i cannot make calls Dec 15 21:29:44 mrmoku: by the way Dec 15 21:29:48 mrmoku: shr@shr.bearstech.com Dec 15 21:29:51 Your key is there. Dec 15 21:29:57 where is the problem here? Dec 15 21:30:15 rebooting Dec 15 21:30:40 Ainulindale: yep, works Dec 15 21:30:52 mrmoku: Ok then :-) Dec 15 21:30:53 but don't tell anybody ;) Dec 15 21:30:55 Ainulindale, is enlightenment for example unstable in shr-unstable or only the shr-apps? Dec 15 21:31:02 quickdev: only SHR for now Dec 15 21:31:21 We'll bump up EFL_SRCREV in unstable though, in the future Dec 15 21:31:23 todays image from 3 pm, installed quickys libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 and did a downgrade afterwards Dec 15 21:31:37 BluesLee: on shr.bearstech.com it's not up to date Dec 15 21:31:44 You should add temporarily the unstable feeds to opkg Dec 15 21:31:45 update Dec 15 21:31:48 upgrade libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 Dec 15 21:31:49 Ainulindale, then I'll try shr-unstable tomorrow Dec 15 21:31:52 and remove them Dec 15 21:32:01 quickdev: well Dec 15 21:32:13 The only app currently not AUTOREV is libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 Dec 15 21:35:24 Ainulindale: just tested pythm quite exstensively and it works like a charm =] Dec 15 21:35:38 Well, thanks mrmoku for the conf Dec 15 21:37:28 Ainulindale: it does get quite excitable as far as cpu+ram is concerned when seeking/adjusting volume whilst playing a song, as well as when receiving calls etc Dec 15 21:37:37 but that's to be expected =] Dec 15 21:38:21 same problem with the unstable libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 package Dec 15 21:38:42 should implement pause/unpause upon incoming/release Dec 15 21:38:46 rebooting once again Dec 15 21:39:11 quickdev: I feel the UI very more responsive! Dec 15 21:39:42 ptitjes: i had this effect seeral times, than i lost the speed again Dec 15 21:40:49 Ainulindale: testing image + libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 unstable should work? Dec 15 21:41:02 crashes here Dec 15 21:41:51 ptitjes, I think you have a bug in the daemon. Dec 15 21:42:00 BluesLee: well is your sim full? Dec 15 21:42:04 ptitjes, here? Dec 15 21:42:09 Ainulindale: no Dec 15 21:42:12 quickdev: Shouldn't the contact window be shared Dec 15 21:42:27 BluesLee: then ask quickdev :-) Dec 15 21:42:40 It seems the contact list appear inside the dialer app when I click for the contact list Dec 15 21:43:00 TAsn: explain Dec 15 21:43:19 press the show number Dec 15 21:43:47 and you will see the numbers are shown with double quotes around them. Dec 15 21:43:50 That's not a bug Dec 15 21:43:53 That's how dbus returns the char Dec 15 21:44:01 s/char/string/ Dec 15 21:44:01 Ainulindale meant: That's how dbus returns the string Dec 15 21:44:09 Ainulindale, but we are not using dbus Dec 15 21:44:14 Yeah and I find this a bug Dec 15 21:44:15 ophonekitd is. Dec 15 21:44:32 Ainulindale, so? phonelogger doesn't. Dec 15 21:44:33 And using dbus, to have the number, results in that. Dec 15 21:44:46 I work straight with the sql db. Dec 15 21:44:46 And as ptitjes feeds the number to the db from the daemon Dec 15 21:44:48 It feeds that. Dec 15 21:44:51 oh. Dec 15 21:44:58 (Yeah, ought to think before talking TAsn :-p) Dec 15 21:44:58 I c. Dec 15 21:45:03 :-> Dec 15 21:45:12 Ainulindale, but it's double quoted ;\ Dec 15 21:45:13 this sick Dec 15 21:45:15 sucks* Dec 15 21:45:17 Yeah, I know Dec 15 21:45:27 That's how it is right now, that's not a major issue Dec 15 21:45:27 '"123"' ;[ Dec 15 21:45:35 And ptitjes Dec 15 21:45:41 If you build something for that Dec 15 21:45:41 ? Dec 15 21:45:44 Even though I think it's not a priority Dec 15 21:45:50 it is when you rely on getting correct values ;] Dec 15 21:45:52 Please fix ophonekitd rev first thing Dec 15 21:45:55 for the quotes ? Dec 15 21:45:55 I can hack away on my side. Dec 15 21:46:06 ptitjes: well, that, and in general Dec 15 21:46:13 :) Dec 15 21:46:15 A fix, or a new functionnality = fixed rev Dec 15 21:46:27 Some tests, and when truly stable, autorev or new rev Dec 15 21:46:53 so I put the shr.git rev in the shr-autorev.inc of shr-overlay.git Dec 15 21:46:59 did I understand correctly Dec 15 21:47:08 ? Dec 15 21:47:11 yes Dec 15 21:47:17 okay understood Dec 15 21:47:27 As long as you include shr-autorev-unstable Dec 15 21:47:29 You'll have latest Dec 15 21:47:29 this have to be said! Dec 15 21:50:11 quickdev: 'Define Recipients' for the SMS stuff is so coool!!! Dec 15 21:52:05 ok, I just committed a workaround. Dec 15 21:52:24 Ainulindale: BluesLee: phonegui-efl seems to work pretty fine (except some minor usability problems) Dec 15 21:53:35 Not here. Dec 15 21:54:20 Oups I can't call... Dec 15 22:00:42 Ainulindale: Strange ophonekitd received an exit_callback Dec 15 22:00:51 could you repeat me the possible reasons ? Dec 15 22:00:55 please Dec 15 22:13:53 quickdev: do you know why I can't call ? Dec 15 22:14:13 ptitjes, I don't know, sorry. Busy atm.. ;) Dec 15 22:14:39 ptitjes: is this what you get? http://brokenmoko.pastebin.com/d2967bf37 Dec 15 22:16:07 I'm flashing lastest unstable, update/upgrade with local build and will tell you Dec 15 22:19:09 ok ... i'm using latest testing, update/upgrade, but with unstable libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 Dec 15 22:19:42 might have to flash unstable .. will wait and see what you get Dec 15 22:24:28 hello nikolaich! Dec 15 22:24:44 nice to see you here! Dec 15 22:24:46 :) Dec 15 22:27:45 Ainulindale: is there still an issue if booting up with usb cable plugged in ? Dec 15 22:28:55 Does Phone/SMS work now? Dec 15 22:29:58 it does for me in latest ... as long as i use the default phonegui Dec 15 22:30:33 flashed! wow booting is fast on the new unstable snapshot Dec 15 22:31:19 Ah Dec 15 22:31:25 sicu, as opposed to the new/changed one? Dec 15 22:31:46 yes, still having some issues there Dec 15 22:31:47 How do I get the illume menu N Dec 15 22:31:49 ? Dec 15 22:32:03 i'm sure quickdev is on top of it though Dec 15 22:32:25 ptitjes: isn't it there by default ? Dec 15 22:34:28 weird Dec 15 22:34:37 Yeah, quickdev is great ;) Dec 15 22:35:05 yeh, SHR team are doing a great job =] Dec 15 22:35:39 \o/ Dec 15 22:35:43 I should send them cookies :D Dec 15 22:38:08 I hope customs doesn't eat them, though. Dec 15 22:38:38 you should make a FR mould and bake som FR cookies ;p Dec 15 22:38:47 Freerunner EZ-Bake? :D Dec 15 22:39:10 overclock that bitch, and bust out the copper-plate :D Dec 15 22:40:12 except it could probably only do one at a time... Dec 15 22:40:16 ALTHOUGH... Dec 15 22:40:20 I do have a lot of freerunners! ;D Dec 15 22:43:09 quickdev: would you mind, if i push a patch for the newlines in the list? Dec 15 22:43:24 mrmoku, mailing list? Dec 15 22:43:47 quickdev: if you want Dec 15 22:44:11 mrmoku, if it's working, commit it directly as it's not in shr-testing atm ;) Dec 15 22:44:40 quickdev: tested it :-) and is quite simple me thinks Dec 15 22:45:27 mrmoku, then commit it Dec 15 22:46:00 sorry my pc crashed Dec 15 22:50:55 quickdev: pushed it Dec 15 22:52:02 mrmoku, thanks :) maybe in future we should replace \n with
to wrap the sentences ;) Dec 15 22:52:25 quickdev: for the message view yes. In the list - don't know Dec 15 22:52:41 in the list not, that's right Dec 15 22:56:35 don't remember who I was talking about the menu ? Dec 15 22:56:37 quickdev: are tabs shown correctly in the message view? Dec 15 22:56:46 mrmoku, I don't know Dec 15 22:57:11 hehe, will send me a sms with tabs inside :-) Dec 15 22:58:34 so how do I make the illume special menu appear ? Dec 15 22:59:45 quickdev: tabs vanish :-) is there some
equivalent to replace tabs with? Dec 15 23:00:00 guess not... so replace tabs with spaces? Dec 15 23:00:20 mrmoku, there should be an entity for tabs I think Dec 15 23:00:50 raster: what entity to use for tabs? Dec 15 23:01:36 umm eh? where? Dec 15 23:01:57 elm text widget me thinks, quickdev? Dec 15 23:02:12 raster, elm_entry Dec 15 23:02:32 there is no standard tag defined Dec 15 23:02:40 well not in the default theme Dec 15 23:02:53 default theme only defined br highlight and b Dec 15 23:03:04 <\t> Dec 15 23:03:06 would work Dec 15 23:03:26 but you are using raw textblock formatting in a tag Dec 15 23:03:40 so there is no way a theme can vary it (eg define how big a tab is) Dec 15 23:03:56 well actually i lie Dec 15 23:03:58 it can Dec 15 23:04:02 int he base format Dec 15 23:04:34 using tabstops Dec 15 23:05:08 raster: what do you do in your sms app with tabs? Dec 15 23:05:09 raster ? how to make the illume menu to appear ? Dec 15 23:05:20 i dont use tabs Dec 15 23:05:35 ptitjes_neo: illume menu? Dec 15 23:05:45 the one with the reboot option? Dec 15 23:05:49 quickdev: we should just replace them with spaces me thinks Dec 15 23:06:10 oh syscon Dec 15 23:06:27 mrmoku, tabs in an incoming message? Dec 15 23:06:30 X in the topshelf when on "home" will get it Dec 15 23:06:37 otherwise its only bound to the power button Dec 15 23:06:42 yeah that one :-D Dec 15 23:06:45 and that means x needs to produce keystrokes for the power button Dec 15 23:06:50 whihc apparently now is fixed Dec 15 23:06:51 quickdev: tabs in any message ;) Dec 15 23:06:53 but before it wasnt Dec 15 23:07:05 * mrmoku hopes one day we will have a folder for sent messages ;) Dec 15 23:07:13 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07refs/tags/upstream-1.6 * r8445f339fad9 10gsm0710muxd/ (AUTHORS ChangeLog data/gsm0710muxd src/gsm0710muxd.c): upstream-1.6 Dec 15 23:07:28 mrmoku: have a look at default.edc Dec 15 23:07:32 in eelementary Dec 15 23:07:35 greap for "br" Dec 15 23:07:45 note that you can entirely define your own markup tags Dec 15 23:07:49 br is just defined as \n Dec 15 23:07:57 b is devined as using sans font with bold Dec 15 23:08:08 hilight is a custom tag that does the same Dec 15 23:08:16 of course i havent gone and created every tag on the planet there Dec 15 23:08:18 just a few Dec 15 23:08:28 eventually that list will expand Dec 15 23:08:33 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07refs/tags/upstream-1.4 * r7515d2ce72f0 10gsm0710muxd/ (14 files in 3 dirs): upstream 1.4 Dec 15 23:09:00 hehe, I'm not sure it's worth the effort for SMS... we could just wait for you to expand the list ;) Dec 15 23:09:21 nice thank you raster Dec 15 23:09:57 just convert the tab to a Dec 15 23:10:03 and for now that means it'll just get ignored Dec 15 23:10:26 ooh wait Dec 15 23:10:28 sorry Dec 15 23:10:31 for entry i did define a tab Dec 15 23:10:38 tag: "tab" "\t"; Dec 15 23:10:40 :) Dec 15 23:10:42 its there in the theme Dec 15 23:10:43 :) Dec 15 23:11:06 hah, you're better then you thought :-) Dec 15 23:11:56 haha...love the black locked strip on AUX press, makes it look like some censored content Dec 15 23:13:09 sicu: hahahaha Dec 15 23:13:24 but why does lock-screen work on AUX press, but not when selected from syscon? Dec 15 23:13:34 guessing it's 2 different locks :/ Dec 15 23:14:22 np PAM support, desk locking disabled Dec 15 23:14:41 different locks Dec 15 23:14:45 one is desk_lock Dec 15 23:14:50 the normal desk_lock built into e17 Dec 15 23:14:56 requires pam for entering a password Dec 15 23:15:07 and simle_lock is just an extended simple locker illume provides Dec 15 23:16:26 ah, there are usecases for both, so nice job =] Dec 15 23:21:10 well simplelock was there to lock you from touching apps and activating anythng Dec 15 23:21:20 as well as not require a password entry Dec 15 23:21:24 as that requires a keyboard Dec 15 23:21:29 and so just becomes complicated Dec 15 23:21:47 the plan is to make normal desklock more flexible in this regard Dec 15 23:21:54 and allow a cusotm "pin" mode Dec 15 23:21:56 RASTER Dec 15 23:21:59 that isnt using pam/password Dec 15 23:22:10 but then the theme/layout needs to provide a pin entry mechanism Dec 15 23:23:17 Dave: doov! Dec 15 23:23:24 Greetings, friend! Dec 15 23:24:48 raster: yeh, a seperate pin entry mechanism makes sense on a keyboardless device Dec 15 23:29:27 yup Dec 15 23:29:46 but the simple_lock was the "covers most needs of "i dont want to make pocket-calls and sms's and stuff" Dec 15 23:32:03 btw Ainulindale: i like the locking feature! i really need it Dec 15 23:38:15 I'm sure my contacts will miss speaking to my pocket though Dec 15 23:38:16 =] Dec 15 23:42:21 Ainulindale: but when the screen is locked, it still lights up when you touch it; maybe i'm the only one, but it seems usefull to make let it not do that, to spare battery life when in our pocket and gps'ing for example Dec 15 23:43:27 thats the problem of not being able to entirely turn off the ts device Dec 15 23:43:38 if there was an xinput device mapped to the ts then it'd be possible Dec 15 23:43:40 but there isnt Dec 15 23:44:10 Zorkman: the problem is that the backlight control is not handled at the X level, but at the FSO level instead, and FSO has no idea that your screen is locked Dec 16 00:42:35 ptitjes1, here? Dec 16 02:19:23 TAsn: ping Dec 16 02:55:09 raster: Where did ou get the nickname "The Raserman" Dec 16 02:55:15 The Rasterman **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 16 02:59:57 2008