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Dec 19 08:43:22 <dcordes> hi all
Dec 19 08:47:37 <Sargun> hi dcordes 
Dec 19 08:50:42 <dcordes> mickey|fsoteam, morning
Dec 19 08:50:51 <Sargun> morning
Dec 19 08:51:03 <mickey|fsoteam> morning
Dec 19 08:51:06 <mickey|fsoteam> *yawn*
Dec 19 09:39:28 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r6d7a6e3df166 10/docs/ogsmd/freescale_neptune/modem: freescale neptune: add new quirk in handling number types
Dec 19 09:39:29 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rd0ce96e0b1eb 10/framework/subsystems/ousaged/ (generic.py lowlevel.py): ousaged: check if we woke up due to battery low; trigger emergency shutdown if so
Dec 19 09:39:29 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r2965b931f469 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
Dec 19 09:39:29 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: ousaged: Check resume reason and launch emergency shutdown, if we
Dec 19 09:39:31 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: woke up due to low battery. NOTE: This is only supported on Openmoko
Dec 19 09:39:33 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: devices now. As there is no standard infrastructure for that in the
Dec 19 09:39:35 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: kernel, we have to deal with device-specific solutions in lowlevel.py
Dec 19 09:57:00 <Ainu|Fallback> Hey there.
Dec 19 09:58:50 <Ainu|Fallback> Damn home connection, it's down again.
Dec 19 10:24:29 <AndreasD> Ainu|Fallback: hey, how are things?
Dec 19 10:28:06 <AndreasD> Ainu|Fallback: I've just turn in the first part of my master thesis and I got some time
Dec 19 10:28:56 <AndreasD> Ainu|Fallback: Is anyone working on the gtk gui for SHR?
Dec 19 10:32:16 <TAsn> AndreasD, nope.
Dec 19 10:32:24 <TAsn> libphonegui-gtk?
Dec 19 10:32:34 <AndreasD> TAsn: yes
Dec 19 10:32:41 <TAsn> not that I know of.
Dec 19 10:32:54 <TAsn> which is a shame because gtk is more mature than efl.
Dec 19 10:33:14 <TAsn> I would like to have gtk on my phone since efl doesn't support RTL support.
Dec 19 10:33:21 <TAsn> AndreasD, thesis in what?
Dec 19 10:33:27 <AndreasD> TAsn: okay, I'll try and take a look at it
Dec 19 10:33:33 <TAsn> great! ;]
Dec 19 10:34:42 <AndreasD> TAsn: Finding Worst-Case Execution times for real-time systems using a fix of static analysis and model checking
Dec 19 10:35:20 <TAsn> Wow, cool.
Dec 19 10:35:24 <AndreasD> TAsn: Do you know about any plans for the gtk gui to use opimd instead of evolution?
Dec 19 10:35:45 <AndreasD> s/fix/mix
Dec 19 10:35:59 <TAsn> since no one written anything in the gtk gui yet (from what I know)
Dec 19 10:36:07 <TAsn> you can write it to use what ever you want.
Dec 19 10:36:28 <TAsn> rumor has it that opimd will be out in a couple of weeks (the basic iface)
Dec 19 10:36:55 <TAsn> AndreasD, though if you break the code correctly it won't matter whether you use evolution or opimd, we need that kind of abstraction.
Dec 19 10:36:56 <AndreasD> TAsn: From what I know work has been done on the phone gui
Dec 19 10:37:16 <TAsn> AndreasD, I only know about e
Dec 19 10:37:18 <TAsn> EFL
Dec 19 10:37:21 <TAsn> not gtk.
Dec 19 10:37:51 <TAsn> AndreasD, though I should go through the code before I speak...
Dec 19 10:38:55 <TAsn> oh, it's just the regular gtk apps
Dec 19 10:39:16 <TAsn> I wonder if they got ported to use the framework... (I'm that outdated when it comes to libphonegui-gtk)
Dec 19 10:41:31 <AndreasD> okay, should I ask Ainulindale or quickdev?
Dec 19 10:41:58 <TAsn> that would be best.
Dec 19 10:42:13 <AndreasD> okay, I'll do
Dec 19 10:42:41 <TAsn> 2008-10-19
Dec 19 10:42:41 <TAsn> 	
Dec 19 10:42:52 <TAsn> last update date of that section of git...
Dec 19 10:42:53 <TAsn> |
Dec 19 10:42:55 <TAsn> ;\
Dec 19 10:51:01 <Ainu|Fallback> AndreasD: some work was done in the past on the gtk library
Dec 19 10:51:11 <Ainu|Fallback> IIRC the pin was working
Dec 19 10:51:19 <Ainu|Fallback> But the other stuff wasn't
Dec 19 10:51:36 <Ainu|Fallback> Last guy who worked on it was MarcOChapeau
Dec 19 10:52:10 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r5b039793d0bd 10/framework/subsystems/otimed/otimed.py: otimed: allow time travel to the past
Dec 19 10:53:05 <AndreasD> Ainu|Fallback: Ok'll take a look, I'm currently building :-s
Dec 19 10:53:21 <Ainu|Fallback> It won't build (libframeworkd-phonegui-gtk won't)
Dec 19 10:53:38 <Ainu|Fallback> You'll have to do a couple of corrections first
Dec 19 10:57:03 <Hire> allow time travel to the past <-- wat?
Dec 19 11:03:42 <TAsn> Hire, time travel is necessary on a topnotch phone...
Dec 19 11:04:21 <TAsn> Hire, Have you ever told yourself "SHIT, I wish I haven't upgraded now my * is broken?" that's exactly for that.
Dec 19 11:04:43 <Hire> cool
Dec 19 11:04:54 <Hire> jluebbe is my newest hero
Dec 19 11:05:25 <Hire> i have to use it when ainu!fallback borks SHR 
Dec 19 11:15:52 <quickdev> Hey
Dec 19 11:15:56 <quickdev> mickey|fsoteam, here?
Dec 19 11:16:17 <Hire> no, he is escaped
Dec 19 11:17:43 <TAsn> quickdev, AndreasD was looking for you. 
Dec 19 11:18:21 <quickdev> really? didn't talk to him for weeks ;)
Dec 19 11:18:56 <AndreasD> quickdev: I would just like to hear if anyone was working on the gtk gui
Dec 19 11:19:07 <quickdev> AndreasD, nobody is working on it
Dec 19 11:20:37 <AndreasD> quickdev: I was told so, now I'm just trying to compile an image 
Dec 19 11:21:52 <AndreasD> but right now I get: ERROR: '/media/sda6/freerunner/shr/shr-testing/openembedded/packages/glibc/glibc_2.6.1.bb' failed
Dec 19 11:22:03 <AndreasD> I think it's a locals problem
Dec 19 11:27:35 <AndreasD> s/locals/locales
Dec 19 11:27:54 <TAsn> AndreasD, pastebin the error log.
Dec 19 11:28:01 <TAsn> I had issues with ccache under arch
Dec 19 11:55:42 <bumbl> !seen
Dec 19 11:55:49 <bumbl> !seen morphis
Dec 19 11:55:55 <bumbl> bah
Dec 19 11:56:02 <DocScrutinizer> BAH
Dec 19 11:56:46 <bumbl> hi jörg
Dec 19 11:56:46 <DocScrutinizer> bzzbot: what's up with you?
Dec 19 11:56:54 <DocScrutinizer> hi
Dec 19 11:56:59 <DocScrutinizer> and bye
Dec 19 11:57:04 <bumbl> bye
Dec 19 11:57:25 <DocScrutinizer> cleaning office, return in Feb
Dec 19 11:57:33 * bumbl throws a freerunner at bzzbot
Dec 19 11:57:51 * DocScrutinizer happily joins in
Dec 19 11:57:51 <bumbl> DocScrutinizer: so you are returning home to germany?
Dec 19 11:57:57 <DocScrutinizer> yup
Dec 19 11:58:19 <bumbl> home sweet home
Dec 19 11:58:33 <DocScrutinizer> cold home... BRRR
Dec 19 11:58:52 <DocScrutinizer> though 6weeks TPE are too much for me
Dec 19 11:59:39 <bumbl> it is not that cold ~0°C
Dec 19 11:59:55 <DocScrutinizer> nah, more like ~15°
Dec 19 11:59:58 <DocScrutinizer> at night
Dec 19 12:00:00 <DocScrutinizer> :-)
Dec 19 12:00:10 <DocScrutinizer> here in TPE
Dec 19 12:00:14 <bumbl> really
Dec 19 12:00:15 <bumbl> nice#
Dec 19 12:00:25 <DocScrutinizer> for Germany ~0° might be right
Dec 19 12:00:35 <bumbl> although I like it cold in winter :p
Dec 19 12:00:40 <bumbl> punsch ftw
Dec 19 12:00:51 <DocScrutinizer> probably I'l get a flu immediately when leaving the plane
Dec 19 12:02:14 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * r7a2ce6ce5c44 10/src/zhone: try unlocking the screen on incoming calls
Dec 19 12:02:29 <bumbl> hmm I need morphis
Dec 19 12:02:41 <bumbl> bloody python elementary bindings
Dec 19 12:21:53 <alphaone> quickdev, Ainu|Fallback You are aware of my API breakage in master yesterday?
Dec 19 12:26:26 <Ainu|Fallback> alphaone: nope
Dec 19 14:02:47 <GNUtoo> hello, how do I build a package with SHR's Makefile... make build-package-<package name>  doesn't work
Dec 19 14:03:08 <GNUtoo> and after building how do I summit the patches to the shr repo?
Dec 19 14:03:58 <GNUtoo> because i'd like to add wesnoth(with boost 1.33.1 as dependency)
Dec 19 14:08:28 <Ainu|Fallback> GNUtoo: open a ticket and attach the patch
Dec 19 14:08:32 <Ainu|Fallback> I'll commit it
Dec 19 14:09:21 <GNUtoo> Ainu|Fallback, ok thanks a lot...basically it's the same patch than the one I made in oe
Dec 19 14:09:29 <Ainu|Fallback> If it's in OE it's in SHR
Dec 19 14:09:31 <GNUtoo> 's bugzilla
Dec 19 14:10:27 <GNUtoo> but there is also boost to patch...i'll attach both patches...thanks a lot
Dec 19 14:29:05 <GNUtoo> Ainu|Fallback, but someone has to test it before commit no?
Dec 19 14:33:53 <Ainu|Fallback> Indeed, but I can do that
Dec 19 14:41:22 <GNUtoo> Ainu|Fallback, ok here it is:  http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/207
Dec 19 14:41:42 <GNUtoo> could I also add xboard?
Dec 19 14:42:00 <GNUtoo> it's waiting in a bugreport at  oe
Dec 19 14:44:54 <GNUtoo> but I don't know if I should keep the no-strip patch for xboard because I don't know if strip works in SHR
Dec 19 15:04:32 <Ainu|Fallback> COuld somebody tell me how many batteries there are in the stylus?
Dec 19 15:04:35 <Ainu|Fallback> Three or four ?
Dec 19 15:07:01 <bumbl> 4
Dec 19 15:07:09 <bumbl> in the original one
Dec 19 15:07:30 <Ainu|Fallback> Ok, I found the missing one =)
Dec 19 15:08:28 <bumbl> hmm i need to buy no ones
Dec 19 15:09:14 <bumbl> too much laserpointing
Dec 19 15:09:16 <bumbl> :p
Dec 19 15:11:10 <Weiss> yeah, it eats batteries :(
Dec 19 15:11:31 <bumbl> but the inbuilt laserpointer rocks
Dec 19 15:11:35 <Weiss> yeah
Dec 19 15:11:59 <bumbl> hmm modifying it would be cool too
Dec 19 15:13:49 <bumbl> ala 100mW laser
Dec 19 15:41:12 <quickdev> Ainu|Fallback, just for info, my package is here :)
Dec 19 15:47:10 <Dave> Snow[free]runner, anyone?
Dec 19 15:47:14 <GNUtoo> Ainu|Fallback, did wesnoth compile fine?
Dec 19 15:47:31 <bumbl> y
Dec 19 15:47:40 <bumbl> one here please
Dec 19 15:47:48 <Dave> Ah, Wesnoth.
Dec 19 15:48:20 <GNUtoo> yes...i'm trying to include Wesnoth in SHR
Dec 19 15:56:13 <Dave> haha god
Dec 19 15:56:18 <Dave> as if it wasn't big enough, eh? :)
Dec 19 15:56:52 <GNUtoo> yes  but the package is splited...you can remove music,sounds,campaigns etc...
Dec 19 15:57:22 <GNUtoo> s/SHR/SHR feeds
Dec 19 15:57:33 <GNUtoo> i don't want to include it in the image...lol
Dec 19 16:08:19 <Ainu|Fallback> quickdev: your package is here ?
Dec 19 16:09:03 <Ainu|Fallback> well anyway I have to leave now, will talk to you tonight
Dec 19 16:13:23 <cbrake> trying to rebuild the freesmartphone docs
Dec 19 16:13:29 <cbrake> anyone know what provides: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xsl-stylesheets/xhtml/docbook.xsl
Dec 19 16:15:23 <TAsn> ffs python apps take too long to start
Dec 19 16:15:32 <TAsn> I can't get it, any ideas on how to make them start faster?
Dec 19 16:23:05 <quickdev> mwester, I've got a neo gta02a4 that does not want to boot the bootloader ( AUX + PWR ). Normal boot works. Any suggestions?
Dec 19 16:24:10 <DocScrutinizer2> eeeeeeek, mwester ;-)
Dec 19 16:24:41 <bumbl> quickdev: remove sim card
Dec 19 16:24:46 <bumbl> remove battery
Dec 19 16:24:51 <bumbl> wait 15 min
Dec 19 16:25:07 <bumbl> insert battery - try again
Dec 19 16:25:13 <DocScrutinizer2> and then?
Dec 19 16:25:50 <quickdev> bumbl, maybe it's because I have no sd card inserted?
Dec 19 16:25:57 <bumbl> yep
Dec 19 16:26:06 <bumbl> qi needs a sd inserted
Dec 19 16:26:14 <bumbl> at least older revs needed
Dec 19 16:26:19 <quickdev> I want to boot uboot, not qi
Dec 19 16:26:26 <DocScrutinizer2> if this helps, we forgot to init sth
Dec 19 16:29:11 <TAsn> wow, people write a lot of crap on the SHR ML...
Dec 19 16:29:29 <TAsn> they double report bugs... they report them there as well as in trac.. ;\
Dec 19 16:33:01 <bumbl> people (me included) often repor crap regardless of the situation
Dec 19 16:33:32 <TAsn> double report? ML and trac?
Dec 19 16:33:39 <TAsn> I really think trac is sufficient.
Dec 19 16:34:33 <mwester> Healthy Community Commandment #3:  "Thou Shalt Never Discourage Feedback".
Dec 19 16:34:52 <mwester> quickdev:  uboot or Qi?  If uboot, both NAND and NOR, or just NAND?
Dec 19 16:36:47 <TAsn> mwester, hehe, that's probably right, that's why I don't reply to any of those. ;] (telling them not to abuse the ML)
Dec 19 16:37:39 <quickdev> mwester, I'd like the uboot menu to appears, but it doesn't
Dec 19 16:40:01 <quickdev> will solve it later
Dec 19 16:42:19 <mwester> quickdev:  BOOTDELAY may be set too low?
Dec 19 16:42:55 <mwester> quickdev:  you may have a corrupted uboot env in NAND; good news is that it can be rebuilt from Linux if you really wish to do so...
Dec 19 16:45:16 <quickdev> mwester, ok, thanks for information. Maybe I'll talk to you later
Dec 19 16:55:23 <quickdev> hey dolf1074 
Dec 19 16:55:28 <dolf1074> hey
Dec 19 16:55:53 <dolf1074> still busy with doing some testing
Dec 19 16:56:20 <quickdev> dolf1074, what are you testing? :)
Dec 19 16:56:22 <dolf1074> but now mainly focused my efforts to school. Yeah that has to happen sometimes
Dec 19 16:56:31 <dolf1074> quickdev: still contacts
Dec 19 16:56:43 <quickdev> dolf1074, I found the reason of the segfaults
Dec 19 16:56:48 <quickdev> it's frameworkd related
Dec 19 16:56:58 <dolf1074> good
Dec 19 16:57:21 <dolf1074> because it was really had to reproduce
Dec 19 16:57:29 <dolf1074> It just did it sometimes
Dec 19 16:57:37 <quickdev> yeah, right
Dec 19 16:57:52 <quickdev> you have to trigger "list-refresh" many times to make it appear
Dec 19 16:58:24 <dolf1074> ah, therefor I had to do so much trouble ;p
Dec 19 16:58:50 <quickdev> yeah :)
Dec 19 16:58:56 <dolf1074> after the testing, I'm going to implement these: http://alasal.be/openmoko/shr2/contacts/contactlist.jpg
Dec 19 16:59:14 <dolf1074> It has to happen sometimes
Dec 19 16:59:17 <dolf1074> ;)
Dec 19 17:04:47 <quickdev> dolf1074, how to edit a contact?
Dec 19 17:04:55 <dolf1074> pushing it's icon
Dec 19 17:05:18 <dolf1074> but the icon change if you select one
Dec 19 17:05:34 <dolf1074> had already made a mockup but I haven't uploaded it
Dec 19 17:06:25 <quickdev> dolf1074, we should discuss the layout of that page on the ML before :)
Dec 19 17:06:38 <dolf1074> no problem :)
Dec 19 17:07:27 <dolf1074> I will not do direct changes. It's now already my 3th revision, so there can come a next 
Dec 19 17:07:35 <quickdev> dolf1074, I'd place that slider on the right at the top (like the settings category slider of illume)
Dec 19 17:08:07 <quickdev> dolf1074, it's a good mockup to start discussions :)
Dec 19 17:08:48 <dolf1074> ok, but I have to go. Doing interesting stuff tonight 
Dec 19 17:08:56 <quickdev> okay :) have a good day
Dec 19 17:16:21 <DocScrutinizer> bye
Dec 19 18:36:25 <ptitjes> hello
Dec 19 18:54:38 <sicu> hey
Dec 19 19:06:36 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r938f46ed21e0 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] disable %CGEV unsolicited response codes
Dec 19 19:06:36 <CIA-51> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r54deb9ed8776 10/framework/ (services.py subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/pdp.py): add preliminary netlink message dispatcher
Dec 19 19:10:40 <TAsn> anyone here?
Dec 19 19:11:00 <TAsn> I need a brief commenting on something.
Dec 19 19:13:50 * bumbl here
Dec 19 19:14:00 <TAsn> hey
Dec 19 19:14:06 <TAsn> I just implemented the
Dec 19 19:14:31 <TAsn> write "Today 15:23:11" instead of 19/12/2008 ...
Dec 19 19:14:52 <TAsn> now I have two questions
Dec 19 19:15:20 <TAsn> the first, how to write the today string? I mean, should it be "Today at TIME" or "Today TIME" or "Today: TIME" ?
Dec 19 19:15:51 <TAsn> furthermore, is there anything else I should convert to words but today?
Dec 19 19:15:58 <TAsn> yesterday is rather dumb, isn't it?
Dec 19 19:16:33 <bumbl> hmm
Dec 19 19:16:53 <bumbl> I personally would prefer "Today, TIME"
Dec 19 19:17:46 <TAsn> that's also a possibility, sec I'll test that ;]
Dec 19 19:18:10 <bumbl> I wouldn't say anything against "Yesterday, TIME" too - it might be that the string get's too long then
Dec 19 19:18:51 <TAsn> that's what I think
Dec 19 19:18:52 <bumbl> converting today is important - converting yesterday isn't - converting anything else is useless
Dec 19 19:19:10 <TAsn> anyway it's shorter than full date
Dec 19 19:19:51 <TAsn> bumbl, you use pyphonelog right?
Dec 19 19:20:05 <TAsn> because if i'm already here I have another Q to ask.
Dec 19 19:20:17 <TAsn> s/if/since/
Dec 19 19:20:17 <bzzbot> TAsn meant: because since i'm already here I have another Q to ask.
Dec 19 19:21:14 <bumbl> TAsn: well I have tried it yes
Dec 19 19:22:00 <bumbl> I have newly flashed the freerunner yesterday and haven't used it as a phone yet again though
Dec 19 19:22:02 <TAsn> do you get bold text when seeing a missed call you haven't seen before?
Dec 19 19:22:36 <TAsn> it's there from day one, though since I changed it from coloring to boldiness it stopped working correctly, I wanted to know if it's just me
Dec 19 19:22:46 <TAsn> I already asked someone that claimed it's just me
Dec 19 19:23:07 <TAsn> though I think he might misunderstood me.
Dec 19 19:23:10 <bumbl> well i have to try that
Dec 19 19:23:54 <TAsn> I don't think I will convert yesterday as well, it looks bad
Dec 19 19:24:17 <bumbl> then just convert today :p
Dec 19 19:24:21 <TAsn> and about the "Today, TIME" it's ok, I might change it in the future though for now that's the default ;]
Dec 19 19:24:51 <bumbl> well change it to whatever you like it - your code - your desicion
Dec 19 19:26:31 <TAsn> I don't really mind, I want to do what the users like, I like them all the same ;]
Dec 19 19:26:59 <TAsn> and since you are the only user here, your rule is the majority rule.
Dec 19 19:26:59 <bumbl> well I found a bug
Dec 19 19:27:05 <TAsn> bumbl, inform ;]
Dec 19 19:27:14 <bumbl> TAsn: it is bold here
Dec 19 19:27:29 <bumbl> the bug was that I called myself
Dec 19 19:27:38 <bumbl> (landline to phone)
Dec 19 19:27:41 <TAsn> and?
Dec 19 19:27:50 <bumbl> and it the phone rang
Dec 19 19:28:09 <sicu> TAsn: no point in converting yesterday, but today and tomorrow will be nice =]
Dec 19 19:28:11 <Sargun> Oh my god, the phone, rang? 
Dec 19 19:28:14 <bumbl> but just displayed a white background and no accept,... buttons
Dec 19 19:28:29 <TAsn> bumbl, oh, not pyphonelog related ;]
Dec 19 19:29:03 <TAsn> bumbl, was it the only one on the list when it got bold? because here the bug only consists when there are some that aren't supposed to be bold and some that are.
Dec 19 19:30:53 <bumbl> ah yes it was the only one
Dec 19 19:31:02 <bumbl> I will call me again
Dec 19 19:31:08 <TAsn> ;]
Dec 19 19:31:28 <TAsn> when you do, expand the group
Dec 19 19:31:37 <TAsn> so it will not be the only viewable one...
Dec 19 19:31:49 <bumbl> this time it displayed everything correctly
Dec 19 19:32:12 <TAsn> i.e one in bold and one not?
Dec 19 19:32:33 <bumbl> still displays correctly
Dec 19 19:32:43 <bumbl> they were grouped though
Dec 19 19:32:48 <bumbl> the group was bold
Dec 19 19:32:57 <TAsn> yeah, that's a feature
Dec 19 19:33:03 <bumbl> when I opened the group
Dec 19 19:33:07 <bumbl> both got normal
Dec 19 19:33:13 <TAsn> that's a bug.
Dec 19 19:33:31 <TAsn> ok, so you are also experiencing the same bug
Dec 19 19:33:48 <TAsn> until I resolve this one, I need to think about a different marking strategy
Dec 19 19:33:56 <TAsn> how should I make the newly added missed calls?
Dec 19 19:34:01 <TAsn> maybe orange background?
Dec 19 19:34:18 <sicu> red text ?
Dec 19 19:34:18 <TAsn> actually background renders bad, how should I color the text?
Dec 19 19:34:27 <sicu> =]
Dec 19 19:34:30 <TAsn> sounds a bit extreme, sec I'll test it. ;]
Dec 19 19:34:54 <sicu> or make the text bold
Dec 19 19:35:00 <sicu> hehe ... sorry ;p
Dec 19 19:35:55 <TAsn> S(
Dec 19 19:36:58 <bumbl> hmm bold + italic
Dec 19 19:39:10 <TAsn> lol are you guys doing that on purpose?!
Dec 19 19:39:57 <bumbl> :p
Dec 19 19:40:18 <TAsn> http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1jw3.png
Dec 19 19:40:21 <TAsn> how is it?
Dec 19 19:40:28 <TAsn> a bit extreme but nice?
Dec 19 19:40:28 <TAsn> ;]
Dec 19 19:40:47 <TAsn> what do you think?
Dec 19 19:42:56 * bumbl has no objections
Dec 19 19:43:23 <TAsn> cool, committed that as well.
Dec 19 19:43:41 <TAsn> btw anyone has any ideas for what to change/add/do?
Dec 19 19:45:49 <TAsn> There are two main objectives left beside the bold bug, fix a possible race condition (although unlikely, in some situations it can occur, though ever if it occurs it's not a big deal) and change the list to look more like the contacts app.
Dec 19 19:46:07 <bumbl> hmm yep
Dec 19 19:46:24 <bumbl> my wish is that all the core apps look the same
Dec 19 19:46:34 <bumbl> behave the same
Dec 19 19:46:48 <bumbl> and are connected together
Dec 19 19:46:58 <TAsn> ohh you reminded me another todo I have.
Dec 19 19:47:17 <TAsn> bumbl, they should not be connected together, though they should be able to work together, and they do.
Dec 19 19:48:02 <TAsn> about the look I have already commented, we need a f*** gtkrc
Dec 19 19:48:30 <TAsn> except for the size and positioning of the 3 lower buttons in my app which I'll change as soon I have the time.
Dec 19 19:49:23 * mrmoku_ is using pyphonelog also ;)
Dec 19 19:51:34 <TAsn> mrmoku, do you experience the bold bug as well?
Dec 19 19:51:48 <TAsn> bumbl and I do.
Dec 19 19:52:02 <mrmoku> yep, just tried... though it was a multiple call line
Dec 19 19:52:07 <bumbl> hmm I have a really minor improvement/bug to report: for the next code commit, change the module import order so that the standard python modules are ontop (time, os.path, shutil, re, datetime)
Dec 19 19:52:26 <TAsn> bumbl, will do.
Dec 19 19:52:28 <bumbl> dbus, gobject, sqlite3 below
Dec 19 19:53:43 <TAsn> it's done, will be in my next commit
Dec 19 19:53:53 <TAsn> mrmoku, multiple call line?
Dec 19 19:55:04 <mrmoku> a combined one to flap out - multiple calls from the same number
Dec 19 19:55:45 <mrmoku> just tried from a different number - same result _not_ bold
Dec 19 19:56:46 <TAsn> mrmoku, same bug, THIS IS TOO WEIRD
Dec 19 19:57:15 <TAsn> same code, only one difference, the word 'weight' is replaced by the word 'foreground' and everything works
Dec 19 19:57:31 <TAsn> well for now new missed calls will stay red
Dec 19 19:57:48 <TAsn> until I'll have the time to figure out what the hell is going on.
Dec 19 19:58:48 <bumbl> maybe a gtk error
Dec 19 20:07:29 <Sargun> PaulFertser_, No local universities?
Dec 19 20:08:38 <TAsn> bumbl, might just be
Dec 19 20:08:48 <TAsn> I'm experiencing another gtk related bug ;\
Dec 19 20:08:52 <PaulFertser_> Sargun: sorry? What are you talking about?
Dec 19 20:10:31 <mrmoku> TAsn: time to try elementary ;)
Dec 19 20:10:41 * mrmoku ducks and runs
Dec 19 20:11:06 <TAsn> mrmoku, shh ;]
Dec 19 20:11:55 <bumbl> morphis has promised a new rev bump of python-elementary
Dec 19 20:11:59 <bumbl> this evening
Dec 19 20:13:35 <sicu> TAsn: does the build put your changes into testing or unstable ?
Dec 19 20:14:02 <TAsn> no idea in the world.
Dec 19 20:14:03 <TAsn> ;]
Dec 19 20:14:06 <sicu> =]
Dec 19 20:15:18 <TAsn> for some reason, when the hbox is set to homogeneous the tab bar isn't moved back to the top (when upright) until it's clicked.
Dec 19 20:15:20 <TAsn> weird~!
Dec 19 20:17:15 <bumbl> well couldn't you simulate a click as a tmp-workaround
Dec 19 20:19:39 <TAsn> I will ;
Dec 19 20:19:40 <TAsn> \
Dec 19 20:29:19 <TAsn> bumbl, won't do it ;\
Dec 19 20:31:37 <Sargun> PaulFertser_, Regarding the a7 fix.
Dec 19 20:31:48 <Sargun> maybe different paul.
Dec 19 20:34:32 <PaulFertser_> Sargun: do you suppose there're guy with good soldering skills at universities?
Dec 19 20:34:43 <Sargun> probably.
Dec 19 20:35:06 <jeanne> Hey.
Dec 19 20:35:44 <mrmoku> Ainu|Fallback: hey, still problems with your connection?
Dec 19 20:36:06 <Ainu|Fallback> Well it seems but I'm not at home
Dec 19 20:36:08 <Ainu|Fallback> I'm at my parents
Dec 19 20:36:10 <Ainu|Fallback> '
Dec 19 20:36:18 <mrmoku> ahh
Dec 19 20:36:27 <Ainu|Fallback> And there's a 800km distance between home and here
Dec 19 20:36:34 <Ainu|Fallback> So I can't really fix my connection right now
Dec 19 20:36:41 <Ainu|Fallback> So I'm using a friend's
Dec 19 20:36:54 <mrmoku> France is big ;)
Dec 19 20:37:17 <mrmoku> Ainu|Fallback: I packaged openmoocow
Dec 19 20:37:35 <Ainu|Fallback> Yay
Dec 19 20:39:00 <mrmoku> but we need icons... disturbs my understanding of consistence to have apps with icons in a different style
Dec 19 20:39:40 <bumbl> we need to hire Hire
Dec 19 20:39:51 <bumbl> again
Dec 19 20:39:52 <bumbl> :p
Dec 19 20:39:57 <mrmoku> the correct thing would be to find out if it's possible to just put the correct background for the correct categorie of application - automatically
Dec 19 20:40:05 <mrmoku> -ie+y
Dec 19 20:40:47 <Ainu|Fallback> mrmoku: well it isn't
Dec 19 20:41:18 <Ainu|Fallback> mrmoku: excuse me if I'm slow to answer
Dec 19 20:41:25 <Ainu|Fallback> But I'm at my parents, I ate a typical french meal
Dec 19 20:41:28 <Ainu|Fallback> So I'm full, again
Dec 19 20:41:35 <mrmoku> it's a pity
Dec 19 20:41:36 <Ainu|Fallback> It's even hard to move
Dec 19 20:41:40 <mrmoku> heh, take your time :-)
Dec 19 20:44:23 <mrmoku> Ainu|Fallback: I also packaged pyefl-sudoku... though it still needs some patching to fit on the screen
Dec 19 20:44:34 <mrmoku> the illume bar grew a little since it was created me thinks
Dec 19 20:46:39 <Ainu|Fallback> mrmoku: heh, you know, I'm not one of the people who will install it anyway :-)
Dec 19 20:47:05 <bumbl> shrink the topbar anyway
Dec 19 20:47:15 <mrmoku> yep :)
Dec 19 20:47:17 <bumbl> (the always visible part)
Dec 19 20:47:32 * mrmoku thinks about packaging some nice console app for Ainu|Fallback ;)
Dec 19 20:47:36 <mrmoku> Ainu|Fallback: you like mutt?
Dec 19 20:50:00 <mrmoku> hmm mutt is already in OE :(
Dec 19 20:51:04 <Ainu|Fallback> =)
Dec 19 20:51:09 <mrmoku> PaulFertser_: have you tried the accellerators in andy-tracking with frameworkd?
Dec 19 20:51:27 <Ainu|Fallback> mrmoku: do you know I have a uncomitted libframeworkd-phonegui-ncurses on my drive?
Dec 19 20:51:38 <Ainu|Fallback> (not at all working)
Dec 19 20:51:41 <mrmoku> hehe
Dec 19 20:51:59 <Ainu|Fallback> but with a PoC for automatic vte display and mouse awareness
Dec 19 20:52:07 <mrmoku> it the FR had only some more keys :(
Dec 19 20:52:13 <Ainu|Fallback> no need
Dec 19 20:52:19 <Ainu|Fallback> mouse + illume keyboard
Dec 19 20:52:33 <mrmoku> PoC?
Dec 19 20:52:37 <Ainu|Fallback> proof of concept
Dec 19 20:52:54 <mrmoku> ahh, how do you do the mouse awareness?
Dec 19 20:54:16 <Ainu|Fallback> well it's standard curses
Dec 19 20:54:24 <PaulFertser_> mrmoku: Not yet. I've tried input-events though, and they work.
Dec 19 20:54:52 <mrmoku> PaulFertser_: because there was always the problem of frameworkd consuming too much CPU with accells enabled...
Dec 19 20:55:02 <mrmoku> will try now :-)
Dec 19 20:56:14 * mrmoku thinks nio is thirsty...
Dec 19 20:57:14 <sicu> [081219-213954] <mrmoku> the correct thing would be to find out if it's possible to just put the correct background for the correct categorie of application - automatically
Dec 19 20:57:37 <sicu> mrmoku: this is possible, according to raster
Dec 19 20:57:48 <mrmoku> sicu: ahh, good news :-) how?
Dec 19 20:57:56 <sicu> spoke to him about it a while back ....
Dec 19 20:58:15 <sicu> but unfortunately not without some serious illume coding :/
Dec 19 20:58:43 <mrmoku> and probably raster is tooooo busy to do it himself....
Dec 19 20:59:01 <sicu> i looked into it, but way too advanced for someone that isn't a programmer ;p
Dec 19 20:59:09 <sicu> mrmoku: hehe ... correct
Dec 19 20:59:27 <mrmoku> where should one look at?
Dec 19 21:01:42 <sicu> mrmoku: i didn't get very far investigating it ... got dizzy just browsing through the illume code ;p
Dec 19 21:01:49 <sicu> mrmoku: pm
Dec 19 21:02:21 <Dave> moku moku moku
Dec 19 21:02:41 <sicu> moocow
Dec 19 21:03:00 <Dave> :D
Dec 19 21:04:03 <sicu> btw, anybody know if installing Psyco JIT Compiler will have much impact on bitbake performance?
Dec 19 21:08:43 <TAsn> This stupid bug is getting me crazy.
Dec 19 21:09:28 <Dave> It likes you :P
Dec 19 21:17:22 <mwester> sicu:  no, not really.
Dec 19 21:21:25 <Kensan> mwester: hi thanks for the info earlier today/yesterday. Didn't mean to rush/bug you that much.
Dec 19 21:22:44 <mwester> :)  No problem.
Dec 19 21:23:13 <TAsn> Dave, I can't even start to get what's going on there.
Dec 19 21:23:25 <Dave> o_O
Dec 19 21:24:26 <sicu> mwester: ?? not too advanced you mean?
Dec 19 21:24:44 <Kensan> mwester: the s3c serial code where the msg is emmited did not change afaict.
Dec 19 21:25:53 <mwester> sicu:  You asked if JIT would help... If you have it, by all means use it -- but the python component of the build time vanishes to insignifance for all but the most trivial of cases; the only time it makes a discernable difference is when everything is up-to-date and nothing is built.
Dec 19 21:26:30 <mwester> Kensan:  No, it did --- I patched it so that the message would be printed even if you didn't have "debug" turned on! 
Dec 19 21:26:56 <sicu> mwester: ah, thanks for the info =]
Dec 19 21:28:55 <Kensan> mwester: hm right, I only peeked at stable-tracking vs stable.
Dec 19 21:29:10 <Kensan> mwester: working state must be long before that I guess.
Dec 19 21:48:03 <TAsn> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/
Dec 19 21:48:12 <TAsn> guys, what do you think about the buttons size?
Dec 19 21:48:18 <TAsn> I think it's wayyyy too big.
Dec 19 21:48:27 <TAsn> but it's the same size as moko contacts ;\
Dec 19 21:49:01 <TAsn> sicu, are you here?
Dec 19 21:49:35 <sicu> TAsn: yes
Dec 19 21:50:19 <TAsn> what do you think, do you think icons will look good on the bottom buttons or not? (I'm not sure either) and if you think they would, would you mind sketching some? ;]
Dec 19 21:51:26 <sicu> TAsn: i think size is ok, and if it's the same as contacts, then at least it's consistent
Dec 19 21:52:07 <TAsn> and consistency is good? ;]
Dec 19 21:53:00 <sicu> TAsn: not sure about icons though ... will quickly sketch some up later when i have time ... to see what it looks like
Dec 19 21:53:12 <sicu> no way to know without trying =]
Dec 19 21:53:20 <TAsn> hehe exactly what I was thinking
Dec 19 21:53:39 <TAsn> it might look too much, if you know what I mean.
Dec 19 21:54:45 <sicu> exactly my thought ... i would make them very basic and probably b&w
Dec 19 21:55:00 <sicu> but most likely it's best left as it is now, and less confusing
Dec 19 21:56:27 <TAsn> cool.
Dec 19 21:57:00 <TAsn> feel free to up and send me sketches when done, or even better, just edit the pic I uploaded ;]
Dec 19 21:57:17 <TAsn> so I will be able to see how it looks without code changes ;]
Dec 19 21:57:56 <sicu> TAsn: i'll edit the pic and scap it when done
Dec 19 21:57:57 <TAsn> btw, in the meanwhile is the text self explanatory? or was the "Show" necessary.
Dec 19 21:58:09 <sicu> won't have time until later though
Dec 19 21:59:03 <TAsn> sure thing, what do you think about the text though? (before I commit)
Dec 19 21:59:28 <sicu> TAsn: perhaps a little confusing without the 'show'
Dec 19 21:59:40 <TAsn> the show takes too much space.
Dec 19 22:00:06 <sicu> especially the call one .. ppl will probably think it's a button for calling the selected missed call or something
Dec 19 22:00:06 <TAsn> there's no way to make the 3 button the same size with show.
Dec 19 22:00:18 <TAsn> that's what it does.
Dec 19 22:00:32 <TAsn> it calls the selected record ;]
Dec 19 22:00:46 <sicu> ahh .. that's good then ;p
Dec 19 22:01:40 <sicu> 'show' was for the other two .. sorry
Dec 19 22:01:46 <TAsn> yeah? all is self explanatory?
Dec 19 22:01:46 <sicu> i'm getting tired ;p
Dec 19 22:01:53 <TAsn> hehe, same here
Dec 19 22:02:31 <sicu> i think it's fine now
Dec 19 22:03:45 <sicu> but shouldn't you be able to do: Show \n Numbers ... and that would fit as it is now ?
Dec 19 22:04:02 <sicu> or however you do that in programming ;p
Dec 19 22:04:30 <TAsn> I can do that
Dec 19 22:04:34 <TAsn> though it'll look funny.
Dec 19 22:04:45 <TAsn> having two lines squeezed in there.
Dec 19 22:06:28 <TAsn> well it's there, I'm now building my own pack ;]
Dec 19 22:08:09 <TAsn> anyhow, about the names, I really think since it's only 2 buttons that do no harm, even if people won't get it at first they'll surely get what they do on the second try ;]
Dec 19 22:09:58 <sicu> yeh, you're right
Dec 19 22:10:14 <sicu> it's looking good =]
Dec 19 22:10:49 <sicu> TAsn: how long does it take you to build pyphonelog locally?
Dec 19 22:11:42 <TAsn> ~minute I think
Dec 19 22:11:47 <TAsn> though it's only because of bitbake
Dec 19 22:11:52 <TAsn> it's a fucking python script
Dec 19 22:12:00 <TAsn> with my hackish build package script
Dec 19 22:12:05 <TAsn> it's < 1sec.
Dec 19 22:13:48 <sicu> ah .. i'm still waiting for mine to finish
Dec 19 22:14:05 <sicu> it's taking forever, but it's the first build
Dec 19 22:14:38 <TAsn> first ever bitbake build?
Dec 19 22:14:42 <TAsn> or first ever pyphonelog?
Dec 19 22:14:59 <TAsn> actually both will suck since you are probably getting gtk for the first time.
Dec 19 22:16:10 <sicu> first ever bb build ;]
Dec 19 22:16:24 <TAsn> OUCH!
Dec 19 22:16:30 <TAsn> that's probably an all nighter
Dec 19 22:16:33 <sicu> on a 9 year old pc ;p
Dec 19 22:16:40 <TAsn> it's ~ 20 hrs
Dec 19 22:16:44 <TAsn> iirc
Dec 19 22:16:58 <sicu> ah well ... i'll let it do it's thing then =]
Dec 19 22:17:07 <TAsn> on my old ~7yrs computer it was a lot.
Dec 19 22:17:10 <TAsn> more than I can remember ;]
Dec 19 22:17:58 <TAsn> well anyhow, sicu, please try to scap a sketch (and pm me the link) when you have the time.
Dec 19 22:18:12 <sicu> TAsn: sure thing =]
Dec 19 22:18:36 <TAsn> btw, are you using the latest shr image?
Dec 19 22:19:45 <TAsn> if so can you explain a bit about the lock screen mechanism?
Dec 19 22:19:53 <TAsn> what's exactly there?
Dec 19 22:20:09 <sicu> TAsn: i'm using the one from 15.12
Dec 19 22:20:21 <TAsn> you have screen lock on aux press?
Dec 19 22:20:26 <sicu> yeh =]
Dec 19 22:21:00 <TAsn> how do you unlock?
Dec 19 22:21:12 <sicu> it's just a thick black bar across the middle of the screen with white text in the middle saying LOCKED
Dec 19 22:21:22 <TAsn> oh, lol.
Dec 19 22:21:25 <sicu> looks like some kind of sencored content
Dec 19 22:21:32 <TAsn> how do you unlock it?
Dec 19 22:21:32 <sicu> i'll scap it
Dec 19 22:21:39 <TAsn> yay, thanks ;]
Dec 19 22:21:40 <sicu> same as lockin ... AUX
Dec 19 22:21:44 <TAsn> i c.
Dec 19 22:21:48 <TAsn> ;\
Dec 19 22:22:07 <TAsn> I don't like the scheme. I really think the user should decide what to do with his buttons.
Dec 19 22:22:21 <TAsn> and having an iphone like screen lock is way cooler ;]
Dec 19 22:22:30 <sicu> true ... but i think you can by modifying rules
Dec 19 22:24:02 <sicu> TAsn: -> scap
Dec 19 22:24:06 <TAsn> thanks.
Dec 19 22:24:17 <TAsn> ;/
Dec 19 22:24:35 <sicu> i think it's a sexy lock ;]
Dec 19 22:25:25 <TAsn> I just use siglaunchd which I wrote exactly for those kind of stuff (launching stuff when an event occurs) and I think it's better suited for the job, but hey, I don't make the rules ;]
Dec 19 22:25:31 <TAsn> sicu, that actually is a sexy lock.
Dec 19 22:25:46 <sicu> yeh ... i like it =]
Dec 19 22:26:13 <TAsn> though it might be even better to take it one step further
Dec 19 22:26:42 <TAsn> i.e, locking the screen and having the only lock indicator, a panel plugin
Dec 19 22:27:10 <TAsn> this way, you can for instance play some music, put it in the pocket, and easily check what's the name of the song you are currently playing
Dec 19 22:27:19 <TAsn> without ever unlocking...
Dec 19 22:28:00 <sicu> ahhh, that would be neat =]
Dec 19 22:28:00 <TAsn> anyhow, my AUX button is set to launch my profile changer ;] that's not really useful but I'm used to it ;]
Dec 19 22:28:23 <TAsn> sicu, I think I'll suggest that tomorrow (I still don't have a trac account ;] )
Dec 19 22:29:02 <sicu> TAsn: but the current lock is by illume iirc
Dec 19 22:29:11 <sicu> so that's raster's doind =]
Dec 19 22:29:12 <TAsn> you are right.
Dec 19 22:29:16 <sicu> *doing
Dec 19 22:29:20 <TAsn> sicu, oh right.
Dec 19 22:29:22 <TAsn> ;\
Dec 19 22:29:43 <dcordes> somebody present from the fso team?
Dec 19 22:30:43 <TAsn> phew, I think I'll go study a little.
Dec 19 22:30:45 <TAsn> night.
Dec 19 22:30:57 <sicu> TAsn: g'nite
Dec 19 22:31:14 <TAsn> and don't forget to scap ;]
Dec 19 22:31:27 <sicu> i'll try to remember =p
Dec 19 22:31:41 <TAsn> good enough ;]
Dec 19 22:32:04 <sicu> haha ... the fso-team
Dec 19 22:32:07 * sicu had a flashback of Murdock, Baracus, Hannibal and Faceman.
Dec 19 22:33:03 <CM> Hehe
Dec 19 22:33:37 <Ainu|Fallback> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/150de88d6c859e1d35a09e3105331b85.png <= what's this horror?
Dec 19 22:33:43 <Ainu|Fallback> It's awful
Dec 19 22:33:50 <TAsn> ;\
Dec 19 22:33:54 <Ainu|Fallback> Ugly, awful, disgusting
Dec 19 22:34:28 <TAsn> Ainu|Fallback, watch my scap, I made phonelog more in the spirit of libphonegui-efl
Dec 19 22:35:03 <TAsn> btw, Ainu|Fallback where can I disable the lock on aux and menu on power?
Dec 19 22:35:06 <Ainu|Fallback> Don't see what you mean by that
Dec 19 22:35:09 <Ainu|Fallback> And for that
Dec 19 22:35:13 <Ainu|Fallback> it's in illume settings
Dec 19 22:36:00 <Ainu|Fallback> (input > key bindings)
Dec 19 22:38:35 <sicu> Ainu|Fallback: that's not horror, it's art ;]
Dec 19 22:38:51 <Ainu|Fallback> well, seriously, what is it?
Dec 19 22:38:51 <sicu> just add a little more colour to spice it up, and it's perfection ;p
Dec 19 22:39:01 <sicu> Ainu|Fallback: no idea
Dec 19 22:39:13 <Ainu|Fallback> I hope it's not paroli
Dec 19 22:39:31 <CM> Oh, just flashed the SHR for gta01 for the 15th and recieved my first sms in almost a year
Dec 19 22:39:34 <CM> :D
Dec 19 22:39:48 <CM> Ainu|Fallback: Nice work, thanks :)
Dec 19 22:40:04 <Ainu|Fallback> Well thanks all the other people I'm not the only one here
Dec 19 22:40:12 <Ainu|Fallback> -s
Dec 19 22:40:30 <CM> For sure, but you're here right now ;)
Dec 19 22:40:36 <Ainu|Fallback> And furthermore my main activity today was drinking beer and eating food
Dec 19 22:41:00 <CM> Nice, much better than mine (8h driving a car)
Dec 19 22:41:11 <Ainu|Fallback> Well, sounds nice =)
Dec 19 22:41:33 <CM> I don't like driving.. Can't code or read at the same time :P
Dec 19 22:41:53 <CM> Did try learning Tagalog though. Tricky language
Dec 19 22:42:05 <CM> (Spoken in the Philippines)
Dec 19 22:42:21 <Dave> :p
Dec 19 22:42:52 <Ainu|Fallback> meh
Dec 19 22:43:01 <Ainu|Fallback> damn
Dec 19 22:43:09 <Ainu|Fallback> My gta01 is on the way but I can't use the tracking number
Dec 19 22:43:21 <Ainu|Fallback> freaking DHL
Dec 19 22:43:37 <CM> Bah, "Dialer stopped running unexpectedly"
Dec 19 22:43:43 <CM> Seems like I can only start it once
Dec 19 22:43:49 <Ainu|Fallback> CM: this will happen if ophonekitd crashes
Dec 19 22:43:52 <sicu> Ainu|Fallback: i think it's just a mockup (a bad one at that) ... the battery icon is stretched, and the "brushed-steel" texture seems to cover almost everything
Dec 19 22:43:57 <Ainu|Fallback> and ophonekitd will crashes on battery problem
Dec 19 22:44:06 <CM> Ah, ok
Dec 19 22:44:10 <CM> I have it on usb now though
Dec 19 22:44:14 <Ainu|Fallback> -es
Dec 19 22:44:18 <Ainu|Fallback> CM: that doesn't matter
Dec 19 22:44:24 <Ainu|Fallback> it tries to get power status
Dec 19 22:44:28 <CM> Ah, ok
Dec 19 22:44:34 <Ainu|Fallback> and it won't be able to if the battery device isn't advertised properly
Dec 19 22:44:38 <CM> Thought you meant low battery
Dec 19 22:44:40 <CM> *nod*
Dec 19 22:44:48 <CM> Sensitive daemon.. :P
Dec 19 22:45:00 <Ainu|Fallback> SEnsitive binding library in fact
Dec 19 22:45:13 <Ainu|Fallback> I didn't have enough time to fix that, nor enough GTA01 to test that
Dec 19 22:45:25 <Ainu|Fallback> And now I'll have one, that's more than 0 and enough to test
Dec 19 22:46:41 <CM> I'm off for a month vacation, but after that I can help testing gta01 stuff :)
Dec 19 22:46:53 <Ainu|Fallback> Well I'd be happy if you do that
Dec 19 22:47:11 <Ainu|Fallback> wurp2 and mwester are already doing that, supposedly
Dec 19 22:47:17 <Ainu|Fallback> But I don't hear from them that much =)
Dec 19 22:47:28 <Ainu|Fallback> (And in fact I think mwester is a bot)
Dec 19 22:47:30 <CM> I used to test and help out a lot two years ago, but I've been insanely busy with "life" :(
Dec 19 22:47:50 <Ainu|Fallback> Sheesh!
Dec 19 22:47:55 <Ainu|Fallback> Well anyway
Dec 19 22:47:58 <Ainu|Fallback> Talking about life
Dec 19 22:48:06 <Ainu|Fallback> I'm supposed to sleep
Dec 19 22:48:13 <Ainu|Fallback> So see you guys
Dec 19 22:48:17 <CM> Same here, later
Dec 19 22:49:17 <polz> Ainu|Fallback: btw, how can I suspend my gta01 with the dec. 15. image*
Dec 19 22:49:18 <polz> ?
Dec 19 22:49:28 <polz> oh.. 
Dec 19 22:49:30 <polz> too late
Dec 19 22:49:34 <polz> good night, then.
Dec 19 22:50:16 <CM> polz: Does openphonekitd crash for you too?
Dec 19 22:50:32 <CM> I see it if I try to use the dialer
Dec 19 22:50:58 <CM> (Because of what Ainu|Fallback said earlier, battery check that goes wrong..)
Dec 19 22:52:27 * mwester notes that if you use the gta01 kernel from http://moko.mwester.net/ then the battery check should still work.
Dec 19 22:52:51 * CM does one last update before going to bed
Dec 19 22:53:20 <CM> mwester: Hehe, nice picture there
Dec 19 22:54:01 <dcordes> alphaone, ping
Dec 19 22:56:33 <eolson> hi all, anyone know the command to launch an illume config?  That wrench disappeared at some point.  I'm using fso 4 on gta01
Dec 19 22:56:54 <eolson> and I need smaller icons to fit everything on the screen
Dec 19 23:02:50 <polz> CM: i've disabled the automatic suspend in /etc/frameworkd.conf
Dec 19 23:03:08 <CM> Ah, ok
Dec 19 23:03:23 <polz> CM: to stop it from crashing. The problem is I can't get it to suspend by pressing the power button
Dec 19 23:03:47 <polz> I think some sort of pop-up is supposed to show up, but that's not working for me.
Dec 19 23:04:29 <sicu> eolson: did it disappear after an opkg upgrade some time ago?
Dec 19 23:04:43 <eolson> I think it disappeared when I added a battery icon
Dec 19 23:05:44 <eolson> well, maybe not battery, but some other illume widget
Dec 19 23:06:31 <sicu> eolson: when i lost mine in SHR, i got it back by deleting .e and restarting X
Dec 19 23:06:47 <sicu> rm -rf ~/.e
Dec 19 23:07:06 <sicu> and /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
Dec 19 23:08:07 <sicu> might be worth a try, but this will reset illume back to default and you'll loose any customization you did to it
Dec 19 23:08:26 <eolson> ah there it is now, thanks for the help
Dec 19 23:08:36 <sicu> no prob =]
Dec 19 23:09:01 <polz> mwester: it's probably a PEBKAC, but I can't find the unstable gta01 image mentioned on http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html
Dec 19 23:09:40 <CM> polz: I tried the one from November 18th, and got a wsod
Dec 19 23:10:54 <sicu> hehe .... i'd forgotten about PEBKAC =]
Dec 19 23:12:44 <polz> CM: on a gta01? Wow, that hasn't happened to me in a while :)
Dec 19 23:14:04 <CM> I got it all the time
Dec 19 23:14:18 <CM> Stopped only 2 weeks ago or so
Dec 19 23:14:41 <CM> Otherwise I've had it with all kernels I've tried since august or so
Dec 19 23:17:46 * CM does a poweroff of both the brain and the Neo
Dec 19 23:27:40 <alphaone> dcordes: pong
Dec 19 23:28:39 <dcordes> alphaone, ogsmd needs modems/msm7xxxx
Dec 19 23:29:22 <alphaone> ?
Dec 19 23:29:39 <alphaone> patches welcome
Dec 19 23:38:21 <alphaone> good night
Dec 19 23:39:22 <dcordes> alphaone, ok good night
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