**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 05 02:59:58 2009 Jan 05 05:10:30 mickey_away: fso-testing feeds and images are up to date for gta01, gta02 and a780 Jan 05 05:54:22 I see bug, I don't know what it's caused by, yay! Jan 05 06:32:03 anybody here know how to talk to frameworkd from something other than python? Like perl or c? I want an app to be able to grab the current cell id Jan 05 06:32:22 is mdbus the best way? Jan 05 06:40:14 budfive, why would you want to write an app in perl? Jan 05 06:40:22 budfive, have you heard of this thing called dbus? Jan 05 06:53:41 clearly not. Jan 05 06:53:52 i thought dbus was a communication framework Jan 05 06:54:07 are there bindings to other languages? or is it python only? Jan 05 06:55:12 aaah. i just found what i need, i think Jan 05 06:56:53 slightly unrelated question. If I call org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetStatus() , I do not get the cell tower id, even though this information exists and appears in the FSO log. anybody know if FSO can give me this info? Jan 05 06:57:16 Right now I'll write something grepping the log, but this obviously isn't the right way to do it Jan 05 07:15:02 budfive, update your fso Jan 05 07:15:14 budfive, there are bindings in other languages Jan 05 07:20:19 ok. thanks Jan 05 08:19:59 Hey Jan 05 08:20:19 hey raster Jan 05 08:20:52 * raster hides Jan 05 08:25:09 * raster pokes his head out to see if the coast is clear Jan 05 08:30:26 raster, I'd like to have a min height of a scrollbar. Is elm_scroller_content_min_limit useful? Jan 05 08:30:58 hmmm Jan 05 08:31:03 no Jan 05 08:31:19 that limits the h or v axis to the min size of the contents of the scroller Jan 05 08:31:21 eg Jan 05 08:31:27 if i have a list of labels Jan 05 08:31:44 i can make the scroller have its min size horizontally limited to the min size of the contents Jan 05 08:31:47 but not vertically Jan 05 08:32:02 there isnt anything to say "be just bing enouhg to show a scrollbar" Jan 05 08:32:22 i do need to work a bit on all the controls you might want to use for a scroller Jan 05 08:33:40 I just want to make a workaround for this probhlem: When I'm placing an elm_entry into a scroller, clicking on the entry does not work immediately Jan 05 08:35:05 hmmm Jan 05 08:35:10 um Jan 05 08:35:14 in what way? Jan 05 08:36:31 the scroller is very small in height...10-15 pixel.. clicking in that area does not work. But if I press the mouse..hold it..and move it slightly..the bars are displayed and the entry has focus Jan 05 08:37:02 hmmm Jan 05 08:37:04 it should work Jan 05 08:37:49 works in elm_test Jan 05 08:40:35 raster, sc.content_min_limit(0, 1); is doing it :) Jan 05 08:41:02 well its forcing the scroller to tbe the height of the text Jan 05 08:41:03 :) Jan 05 08:41:45 (i need to make a scroller style that doesnt actually allow u to drag and scroll or show scrollbars for single line entries) Jan 05 08:42:37 while i'm at it... i need to say Jan 05 08:42:40 neon is nice Jan 05 08:43:01 what's neon? Jan 05 08:43:02 Neon is an inert gas, which is commonly used for electronic signs Jan 05 08:43:31 it's also armv7's new simd stuff Jan 05 08:43:57 unfortunately - useless for anyone with a freerunner Jan 05 08:44:38 raster, do you own a nokia n8xx? Jan 05 08:44:49 n800- yes Jan 05 08:45:28 e works on it? Jan 05 08:45:29 When you pass charges through it (and something else), it converts the energy into light energy, or photons, which can vary depending on the colour you can see. Neon signs are seen in various places, including crappy diners, "Open" signs, and nasty, old "Disco" clubs. Jan 05 08:46:20 hey AndreasD Jan 05 08:46:20 quickdev: on my n800 - yes Jan 05 08:46:27 in runs on every arm device i have Jan 05 08:46:35 hey quickdev Jan 05 08:46:43 how are things? Jan 05 08:46:55 http://www.rasterman.com/files/the-gang-03.jpg Jan 05 08:47:04 i have a new member of the gang Jan 05 08:47:09 but he only comes as a board Jan 05 08:47:16 AndreasD, things are fine - had 2 weeks holidays. Wednesday school is beginning again :) and for you? Jan 05 08:47:17 no screen on him - screen is attached to dvi Jan 05 08:47:55 beagle board? ;) Jan 05 08:48:13 yup Jan 05 08:48:19 thus the neon Jan 05 08:48:20 :) Jan 05 08:48:27 man its fast Jan 05 08:48:39 clock for clock it leaves the 2442 in the dust Jan 05 08:49:01 and thats without even using neon Jan 05 08:49:03 or the dsp Jan 05 08:49:16 http://www.rasterman.com/ Jan 05 08:49:22 i did a performance comparison Jan 05 08:49:40 Anyone know of a good guide on 3GPP/SS7 standards which is compact, and makes sense? Jan 05 08:49:51 it averages 4x the speed of the gta02 Jan 05 08:49:57 and only @ 500mhz Jan 05 08:49:58 quickdev: been sick since 21. dec but are starting to feel fine again Jan 05 08:49:59 already read about it ;) Jan 05 08:50:05 (as opposed to 400 for gta02) Jan 05 08:50:13 AndreasD, good to hear.. Jan 05 08:52:44 quickdev: btw. for the paste days I get http://pastebin.ca/1299990 Jan 05 08:52:54 when trying to make a shr image Jan 05 08:53:19 AndreasD, then you didn't patch the openembedded tree Jan 05 08:53:58 make update-openembedded Jan 05 08:54:00 make updated-shr Jan 05 08:54:06 make patch-openembedded Jan 05 08:54:08 should do it Jan 05 08:54:27 I've already done that, however I've updated the makefile Jan 05 08:54:54 yes..you should use the newest makefile :) Jan 05 08:55:10 when I run: make patch-openembedded I get cat: .patched: No such file or directory Jan 05 08:55:52 is that normal or could that be the problem Jan 05 08:55:57 ? Jan 05 08:56:06 raster, different microarch IIRC. Jan 05 08:56:13 so no comparison Jan 05 08:56:13 i know Jan 05 08:56:18 with clock speed. Jan 05 08:56:21 well there is a comparison Jan 05 08:56:27 i just compared Jan 05 08:56:28 :) Jan 05 08:56:36 it is ineed much more modern Jan 05 08:56:57 and is brimming with features and silicon i have yet to even begin to do work for me Jan 05 08:58:08 raster, I don't blame OM for not getting a better processor Jan 05 08:58:31 for gta02 - they could have given the release date Jan 05 08:58:41 but release date was delayed in the order of 6-9 months or more Jan 05 08:58:52 if it was not delayed - it'd have made sense Jan 05 08:59:00 but hey - water under the bridge Jan 05 09:07:23 quickdev: just tried updating and patching again but did not resolve the issue Jan 05 09:07:39 AndreasD, does it patch sucessfully? Jan 05 09:07:45 yes Jan 05 09:10:18 quickdev any other idea? Jan 05 09:11:25 AndreasD, yes..probably your directory structure is changed - could you give me an ls -alF? ;) Jan 05 09:11:52 quickdev: in the root? Jan 05 09:12:00 yes Jan 05 09:12:48 quickdev: http://pastebin.ca/1299995 Jan 05 09:15:34 AndreasD, did you want to compile shr-unstable? Is in shr-unstable a shr symlink pointing to ../shr? Does the conf/local.conf contain BBFILES += "${TOPDIR}/shr/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb" ? What does conf/topdir.conf contain? Jan 05 09:18:17 quickdev: yes, yes, yes. It contains http://pastebin.ca/1299998 Jan 05 09:20:01 AndreasD, in shr/, is there a openembedded/packages/images/shr-lite-image.bb file? Jan 05 09:20:38 quickdev: yes Jan 05 09:21:05 quickdev: could it be the bitbake cache that should be cleaned? Jan 05 09:21:31 quickdev: and do you have any idea on how to do that? Jan 05 09:21:46 AndreasD, mv tmp tmp_renamed Jan 05 09:22:26 if you want to clean the cache....try to build everything from scratch...following wiki:"Building SHR" Jan 05 09:22:27 quickdev: nope did not help :-( Jan 05 09:23:08 quickdev: okay, I'll probably end up doing that, anyway thanks for your help Jan 05 09:23:15 no prob.. Jan 05 09:23:34 have to go, see you around Jan 05 09:31:14 raster, have you already implemented the window in a window? Jan 05 09:32:10 yup Jan 05 09:32:14 inwin in e_win Jan 05 09:32:26 its just a feature of win Jan 05 09:35:14 i do get to things Jan 05 09:35:17 and list is next Jan 05 09:35:26 though i'm tossing up what precisely to do with list Jan 05 09:35:57 though for now i will implement the list thats not intended for LOOOONG lists of items Jan 05 09:36:07 just short lists Jan 05 09:38:18 raster, is 250 entries short? Jan 05 09:38:25 hmm Jan 05 09:38:32 (contact list) Jan 05 09:38:34 i'd consider it a boundary Jan 05 09:38:45 borderline Jan 05 09:38:57 it'll work Jan 05 09:39:08 just be slower that an optimised list Jan 05 09:39:08 ok :) Jan 05 09:39:20 i dont set hard limits on stuff :) Jan 05 09:39:32 you just pay a price for abuse with speed/memory :) Jan 05 09:39:47 the advantage of the "slow list" Jan 05 09:39:55 is that u'll be able to put in all sorts of widgets into the list Jan 05 09:40:05 like icons or entries or anything else u like Jan 05 09:40:12 it will be able to pack lots of children Jan 05 09:40:17 plus have a label of its own Jan 05 09:40:45 an optimised list will be more restricted Jan 05 09:40:55 eg only suport label + icon Jan 05 09:41:01 yeah Jan 05 09:41:03 and icon is declared by a filename Jan 05 09:41:20 either that or i will need a "listitemcreate" callback Jan 05 09:41:22 and a destroy Jan 05 09:41:33 that will create/destroy specific item entries Jan 05 09:41:42 and this may be called any timew during the life of the list Jan 05 09:41:52 but to avoid this complexity of create/destroy on the fly Jan 05 09:42:07 i'm going to implement the "u create it all at the start and then just deal with it" list Jan 05 09:42:18 thus the inten of it being for smaller number of items Jan 05 09:42:32 as the icons need to all be created at the start Jan 05 09:42:38 and then packed and calculated Jan 05 09:42:47 and will stay around always Jan 05 10:01:25 <\marco> hi to all Jan 05 10:02:35 <\marco> is there any elementary tutorial? I can't find anything :/ Jan 05 10:04:02 download the sources Jan 05 10:04:13 i need to write one Jan 05 10:04:21 its on my todo fror the immediate future Jan 05 10:04:26 but i'll be a tut on using it in c Jan 05 10:04:34 until then there'es test.c in elementayr's src Jan 05 10:04:36 its commented Jan 05 10:04:46 <\marco> raster: thanks a lot :) Jan 05 10:04:46 also elementary-alarm Jan 05 10:04:50 elementary-sms too Jan 05 10:04:52 they are simple Jan 05 10:04:54 well alarm is Jan 05 10:04:58 sms is more complex by now Jan 05 10:05:10 dont be frightened by test.c Jan 05 10:05:14 <\marco> eheh ok Jan 05 10:05:17 its just one long file that opens up a lot of windows Jan 05 10:05:23 each window is just a function in there Jan 05 10:05:30 tghats just whay its big Jan 05 10:05:32 err Jan 05 10:05:34 thats just why its big Jan 05 10:05:42 typo-heaven Jan 05 10:05:59 <\marco> yep, I've seen it Jan 05 10:06:16 <\marco> *saw Jan 05 10:06:41 <\marco> doh Jan 05 10:06:43 <\marco> *seen Jan 05 10:06:44 <\marco> XD Jan 05 10:07:19 http://www.rasterman.com/files/the-gang-03.jpg <- what? No 1973? :) Jan 05 10:08:27 polz: i lost mine somewhere Jan 05 10:08:31 *shrug* Jan 05 10:08:35 who knows where it went to Jan 05 10:08:57 my ipaq3660 has also gone walkabout Jan 05 10:09:06 as has my zaurus sl5000 Jan 05 10:09:14 and my clie nx80v Jan 05 10:09:31 i had 2 zaurus a320's too at one point Jan 05 10:09:52 raster: ask the underpants gnomes, maybe they've changed their business model and might know where all your toys are Jan 05 10:09:54 a neuros OSD Jan 05 10:09:56 as well Jan 05 10:10:54 i've messed with a lot of embedded systems over the years Jan 05 10:11:05 i just seem to have a few casualties every time i move Jan 05 10:11:28 i suspect they are happily contributing to landfill somewhere Jan 05 10:57:54 raster, I've rows in a scroller. A row consists of label + button. When the text of the label is too big, it makes the scroller scroll horizontally. Is there a way to forbid that? I'd like the text of the label to be shrinked in that case Jan 05 11:01:17 hey ho Jan 05 11:40:59 morning Jan 05 11:50:35 quickdev: as in label... Jan 05 11:50:35 ? Jan 05 11:55:23 raster, let me ask slightly different. Is it possible to disable horizontal scrolling? Jan 05 11:55:52 can the parent widget limit the children's widget sizes? Jan 05 11:56:30 no Jan 05 11:56:37 child widget min size is the controller Jan 05 11:56:41 there is no way to go in reverse Jan 05 11:56:45 it can be added Jan 05 11:56:51 but you cant right now Jan 05 12:07:16 raster, if I want a multiline label, I have to use an elm_entry, right? Jan 05 12:08:10 hmm no Jan 05 12:08:16 actually labels are textblocks Jan 05 12:08:22 tho in butotn widgets ther are just text Jan 05 12:08:24 so 1 line Jan 05 12:08:29 but standar dlabel is multi-line Jan 05 12:08:36 see elementary_test L( Jan 05 12:08:37 :) Jan 05 12:08:45 the paragraph at the top is a label in a frame Jan 05 12:11:52 raster, there it is wrapped manually through "
". Is it possible to wrap it automatically? :) Jan 05 12:12:10 I've got some sentences which should be wrapped according to screen width Jan 05 12:12:17 hmm no Jan 05 12:12:20 label doesnt auto-wrap Jan 05 12:12:30 otherwise its kind of hard to calc a min WxH size Jan 05 12:12:39 as its not fixed Jan 05 12:12:39 entry is auto-wrap? Jan 05 12:12:44 as W gets less H gets more Jan 05 12:12:46 yes Jan 05 12:12:51 entry can be non-editable Jan 05 12:13:03 the idea is so u can display text blocks that u can select from and copy from Jan 05 12:13:05 but not edit Jan 05 12:25:07 raster, entry works fine, but I've got a problem with an entry in a box, which is in a scroller: http://rafb.net/p/qF4tPG64.html Jan 05 12:25:16 the text is not displayed in that case Jan 05 12:25:56 if I add a button instead of the entry to the box...which is the child of the scrolller...the button is displayed Jan 05 12:26:46 raster: do you plan to implement a dropdown list (like the keyboardlayout/dictionary list) a filechooser widget in elementary soon Jan 05 12:27:01 s/a /and a / Jan 05 12:27:02 bumbl meant: raster: do you plan to implement and a dropdown list (like the keyboardlayout/dictionary list) a filechooser widget in elementary soon Jan 05 12:27:27 hmm not the right s/// Jan 05 12:31:48 raster, it seems the problem is unrelated to the scroller - just to an entry in a box..hm Jan 05 12:34:36 raster, bumbl, have I forgotten something? http://rafb.net/p/Tkk8Qb79.html Jan 05 12:40:02 however..I found a different solution Jan 05 13:15:58 quickdev: Trying to follow http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR i get http://pastebin.com/m47cc6a17 Jan 05 13:17:39 AndreasD, never had that. Are the permissions of openembedded/git/* files ok? Jan 05 13:19:05 quickdev: locally? I don't have openembedded folder Jan 05 13:20:24 Initialized empty Git repository in /media/sda6/freerunner/shr-makefile/openembedded/.git/ Jan 05 13:20:24 fatal: read error (Connection reset by peer) Jan 05 13:20:24 cd: 4: can't cd to openembedded Jan 05 13:20:24 error: could not lock config file .git/config Jan 05 13:20:32 AndreasD, have you tried it again? Jan 05 13:20:46 AndreasD: seems like you are not able to clone from git.openembedded.net Jan 05 13:20:54 yes.. Jan 05 13:21:21 quickdev: yes tried twice Jan 05 13:22:17 AndreasD: host seems up but I am unable to clone either. Jan 05 13:22:34 AndreasD: you should probably ask in #oe if something is wrong with that host. Jan 05 13:22:58 Kensan: thanks Jan 05 13:22:58 AndreasD: yep, me too can't clone now Jan 05 13:29:16 hi Jan 05 13:30:02 dcordes: hi there Jan 05 13:30:32 is there a bugtracker for fso related issues? Jan 05 13:31:14 mickey_away: qualcomm_msm seems to work well on the new generation htcs Jan 05 13:31:21 dcordes: http://trac.freesmartphone.org Jan 05 13:31:54 PaulFertser_ thanks. I prefer it over ml Jan 05 13:34:20 hey PaulFertser_ Jan 05 13:34:28 quickdev: Hi quickdev :) Jan 05 13:35:33 dcordes: any new htc? Jan 05 13:35:53 why there isn't a fre-scaling driver on the neo freerunner? oO Jan 05 13:36:31 sylar91: what's a free-scaling driver? Jan 05 13:36:55 Has anyone ever used BlueLee's keyboards? Jan 05 13:37:28 PaulFertser_: a driver by which you can change dinamically the frequency of a cpu? Jan 05 13:38:25 sylar91: because nobody has implemented that yet Jan 05 13:38:26 sylar91: what about http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:CesarB/cpufreq ? Jan 05 13:38:35 PaulFertser_: that's not finished Jan 05 13:38:37 unfortunately Jan 05 13:39:05 ah, I can't see anybody in ML talking about that so I questioned if there is any progress.... Jan 05 13:39:06 Kensan: but it's a good hint to why there's no finished driver yet, and whom to ask about it. ;) Jan 05 13:42:05 sylar91: you might want to talk to Jonas Bonn see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-October/006075.html Jan 05 13:42:08 mrmoku nope Jan 05 13:42:20 mrmoku only kaiser and blueangel Jan 05 13:42:26 sylar91: he picked up some work of cesarb and has something (tm) working ;) Jan 05 13:42:36 Kensan: ah ok Jan 05 13:42:37 thanks Jan 05 13:42:38 dcordes: and how well do they work? Jan 05 13:43:39 sylar91: I don't know if Jonas is still working on it since he never posted his patchset to the list... Jan 05 13:43:53 blueangel has good kernel support but no frameworkd Jan 05 13:44:12 kaiser both so-so Jan 05 13:44:43 we just tested frameworkd on the htcraphael (100) and it seems to work well Jan 05 13:45:00 dcordes: thanks... my collegue is thinking about a new phone... will tell him to wait ;) Jan 05 13:46:50 ps: if anywan whats to try ecalc just opkg install http://sylar-stuff.googlecode.com/files/ecalc_0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk (I posted this yesterday but anybody answered...) Jan 05 13:46:59 s/anywan/anyone/ Jan 05 13:47:00 sylar91 meant: ps: if anyone whats to try ecalc just opkg install http://sylar-stuff.googlecode.com/files/ecalc_0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk (I posted this yesterday but anybody answered...) Jan 05 13:49:36 mrmoku he can get a raphael Jan 05 13:49:57 dcordes: looking on htc.com right now... which one is it? Jan 05 13:50:25 Touch Pro Jan 05 13:50:53 mrmoku: heh, fine that one he would have selected me thinks :-) Jan 05 13:51:05 it's available with cdma (msm7501a) and gsm (msm7201a) Jan 05 13:51:27 anyone knows how to use qwo on shr?= Jan 05 13:51:53 mrmoku the keyboard and displa resolution are rich Jan 05 13:51:56 just install it and select the qwo keyboard from illume-setting Jan 05 13:53:27 ah.. thanks will try Jan 05 13:53:36 tifereth what's qwo keyboard? Jan 05 13:54:02 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qwo Jan 05 13:58:55 sounds interesting Jan 05 13:59:56 what's the shr status? when is there a release? Jan 05 14:02:06 dcordes: good question... next question ;) Jan 05 14:02:25 anybody heard something from Ainulindale? Jan 05 14:02:30 dcordes, with some experience typing with qwo really makes fun Jan 05 14:05:07 how can I disable illume keyboard dictionary? Jan 05 14:06:36 just select another layout Jan 05 14:07:09 tifereth: I create my own layout but dictionary in turning on by it self Jan 05 14:08:02 dcordes: how does installing an image onto the raphael work? complicated? Jan 05 14:12:43 yoyo_: hm.. not sure, perhaps you should look at other customised layouts Jan 05 14:17:47 heyho Jan 05 14:26:42 hey morphis Jan 05 14:26:45 some minutes for me? Jan 05 14:27:00 one minute Jan 05 14:27:08 morphis, found two bugs in the bindings Jan 05 14:27:13 must first log off and log in :) Jan 05 14:30:32 quickdev: so be back Jan 05 14:31:08 morphis_, I found the cause of the segfault and the cause of the black backgrounds: http://rafb.net/p/nvIUy911.html Jan 05 14:32:50 quickdev: oh great Jan 05 14:32:56 I will apply and checkin Jan 05 14:33:20 yeah, fine :) Jan 05 14:33:42 I am currently implementing the toolbar widget Jan 05 14:33:50 the basics works Jan 05 14:36:43 quickdev: the segfault was the processing of the command line arguments? Jan 05 14:37:58 morphis, no. the segfault was, because the argc/argv was free'd ;) Jan 05 14:38:11 ah ok Jan 05 14:38:12 I removed the argv_copy, because I didn't see any purpose Jan 05 14:38:30 ok, I just copied the code from the other e-python bindings Jan 05 14:38:37 maybe the segfault is there too Jan 05 14:38:59 maybe etk is copying argc/argv and thus that problem does not exist Jan 05 14:44:03 maybe Jan 05 14:44:05 I will check Jan 05 14:49:56 quickdev: why you removed the line with PyMem_Free(argv)? Jan 05 14:50:12 morphis_, because that free'd argv, which is used by elementary Jan 05 14:50:13 argv is still used and if we removes it we will have a mem leak Jan 05 14:50:21 ah ok Jan 05 14:51:09 but elementary will release the memory when elm_shutdown is called? Jan 05 14:52:04 morphis_, aren't that the argv parameters that should be there for the whole app execution? Have a look at elementary's source :) Jan 05 14:52:50 in a normal c program that are the vars from the main function Jan 05 14:53:25 yeah..do you free them in a normal c program? Jan 05 14:53:34 but in our case we allocate extra memory for that (the args are already in sys.argv) Jan 05 14:53:35 no Jan 05 15:02:55 ainu: when can we expect your fancy news post? Jan 05 15:20:25 bumbl: when I won't have so much work Jan 05 15:32:21 Hi. Jan 05 15:39:44 Ainulindale: hey, how are you? very busy, I see Jan 05 15:40:41 <\marco> there's a way to know which revision(A5,A6 etc..) is my FR? Jan 05 15:42:00 mrmoku: yeah :-) Jan 05 15:42:28 \marco: look in the battery compartment if it's not running, or cat /proc/cpuinfo if it is. Jan 05 15:42:45 <\marco> mwester: thanks a lot! :) Jan 05 15:44:53 <\marco> mwester: mhm.. "Revision : 0360" is equals to...A5? Jan 05 15:50:23 \marco: A6 iirc Jan 05 15:50:37 <\marco> sicu: thanks :) Jan 05 15:51:09 \marco: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Finding_hardware_revision Jan 05 15:51:13 =] Jan 05 15:52:19 <\marco> sicu: doh.. :D sorry.. I'm blind Jan 05 15:54:47 mwester: g'day sir Jan 05 15:57:17 raster, still here? Jan 05 15:59:33 G'day Bruce, say g'day to Bruce, Bruce Jan 05 16:01:50 mwester: When would you have time to discuss the userspace-reset idea? I assume you are busy now *heh* Jan 05 16:07:19 Kensan: can you recommend a working gta02 shr build? Jan 05 16:13:49 dcordes_: sorry, I haven't been using SHR all that much lately so I wouldn't know... Jan 05 16:13:58 dcordes_: maybe quickdev knows a stable version. Jan 05 16:14:06 quickdev: ping Jan 05 16:14:09 ehm Jan 05 16:14:19 dcordes_: happy 09 to you btw ;) Jan 05 16:14:42 dcordes_, if you want some features..take unstable....testing is sonly slightly more stable - if at all Jan 05 16:15:23 Kensan: thanks. also wish you a happy new year Jan 05 16:15:34 * mrmoku would strongly recommend the unstable xmas edition :-) Jan 05 16:15:37 quickdev: are all the images in testing and stable tested? Jan 05 16:15:48 mrmoku: is it tested? got a link? Jan 05 16:16:08 dcordes_, we've got only testing and unstable - they're partly tested ;) Jan 05 16:16:17 http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20081224-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Jan 05 16:16:33 at the moment I'm trying to compile the most recent E Jan 05 16:28:34 is the lack of ts calibration specific to the shr images or is it normal in all builds for the om-gta02 machine? Jan 05 16:29:00 dcordes_, I never needed that Jan 05 16:29:16 because you use the gta02. we try the xmas image on htc universal Jan 05 16:31:05 dcordes_, yes, I use gta02 Jan 05 16:31:07 the openmoko-dialer2 works ootb with htc universal Jan 05 16:31:15 so I hope frameworkd will as well Jan 05 16:31:17 ootb? Jan 05 16:31:29 openmoko-dialer2 is from the 2007.2 days? Jan 05 16:31:49 yes oldskool Jan 05 16:32:22 how can one rotate the screen orientation by 90° / 270° ? Jan 05 16:32:24 in e Jan 05 16:39:31 take some lsd Jan 05 16:41:42 dcordes_: xrandr --rotate Jan 05 16:42:00 no fancy buttons? Jan 05 16:42:15 dcordes_: hm, don't know. Jan 05 16:42:39 dcordes_: for openmoko we have rotate daemons Jan 05 16:42:53 which rotate according to the data of the accels Jan 05 16:43:34 think out of the one-device-box Jan 05 16:43:51 also for the tscal Jan 05 16:45:38 dcordes_: there must be some simple app which rotates the screen... Jan 05 16:47:44 wasn't there one in the old images? Jan 05 16:48:28 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Rotate Jan 05 16:48:36 opkg install http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/455/accel-rotate_0.41_armv4t.ipk Jan 05 16:48:38 works great for me Jan 05 16:51:57 quickdev: we have no accerlometer in htcuniversal Jan 05 16:52:14 dcordes_, try e settings panel? Jan 05 16:52:17 *tried Jan 05 16:52:50 that made e segfault Jan 05 16:53:21 ping raster ;) Jan 05 16:53:45 well i would say Jan 05 16:53:58 raster isn't available at the moment Jan 05 16:54:44 xrandr -o right works Jan 05 16:55:02 you guys could include a script that executes that on the shr desktop Jan 05 16:55:21 for those who don't like the accel-rotate or have no accerlometer Jan 05 16:58:19 dcordes_, could be built into the settings app Jan 05 16:59:17 actually it should work with e - so the best solution would be to solve the segfault Jan 05 16:59:25 true Jan 05 17:03:04