**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 30 02:59:57 2009 Apr 30 03:41:43 rozzin: raster: I tried QVGA with glamo and it works, i can't understand why you keep saying that it's not working... Apr 30 03:41:52 xglamo Apr 30 03:43:48 rozzin: you need to do a special magic command "echo qvga-normal > /sys/bus/spi/drivers/jbt6k74/spi2.0/state" after using xrandr to activate qvga. Apr 30 03:44:16 rozzin: xglamo is unmaintained and sucks, but qvga works, no doubt. Apr 30 03:44:21 It's just looking mad ugly. Apr 30 03:45:44 And yes, TS is not recalibrated and xglamo inteprets it wrong. Xorg handles that well (but qvga is somewhat broken in xorg still, there's a bug open, i guess it'll be fixed soon). Apr 30 04:34:49 raster, thanks for the comment. Apr 30 05:43:37 rozzin: dropshadows are deactivated in Shr unsttable by default Apr 30 06:18:29 good morning Apr 30 06:58:32 PaulFertser: touchscreen still thought it was vga last i tried it a few months back and the whole lcd display was screwed Apr 30 06:59:11 raster: what do you mean the whole lcd display was screwed? Apr 30 06:59:14 and doing the echo to /sy/s doesnt mean its fixed - its still broken after the xrandr change - which means its broken Apr 30 06:59:31 it has lines, gradients and so on Apr 30 06:59:33 it was garbles Apr 30 06:59:36 garbled Apr 30 06:59:54 bits had double-images repeated Apr 30 06:59:55 etc. Apr 30 07:00:07 it looks like the lcd out timing was screwed Apr 30 07:00:07 raster: i did xrandr, then the magic echo and saw a picture. Looked not fancy, but no obvious anomalities. Apr 30 07:00:56 dont do the echo and see Apr 30 07:01:13 raster: i saw that, but it means only that xglamo is unmaintained ;) Apr 30 07:01:36 raster: qvga works without much effort, just xglamo is not fully updated to reflect the kernel interface change. Apr 30 07:01:58 raster: i'd say it's a minor bug with easy workaround. Apr 30 07:02:30 Touchscreen is another matter, probably some more fancy xglamo configuration is needed. Xorg already does it right btw. Apr 30 07:03:21 PaulFertser: u can expect x/config apsps to do hacks by changing res via xrandr, then going behind x's back and playing with sysfs Apr 30 07:03:26 its a total violation of layers Apr 30 07:03:36 but its still a bug Apr 30 07:03:56 and if the ts doesnt work - then thats also a bug - it makes it not usable Apr 30 07:04:47 raster: i think the fact it's still not fixed means only that most people don't like how qvga looks and works, as it should be damn easy to fix. Apr 30 07:08:37 no one ever even tried Apr 30 07:08:40 thats why Apr 30 07:08:48 mostly they just dont try Apr 30 07:08:56 as 1. there is no easy gui for it Apr 30 07:08:57 No, the magic sysfs workaround is wellknown. Apr 30 07:09:11 (only thing thsat has a gui is e and its dug into dialogs that dont fit on screen) Apr 30 07:09:17 2. most peole dont know/use xrandr Apr 30 07:09:32 a workaround is not viable Apr 30 07:09:51 i sure as hell will not go modiy e to go play with sysfs after chanigng res Apr 30 07:09:53 Workaround is perfectly ok to evaluate how QVGA looks. Apr 30 07:09:55 it will ask xrandr to do it Apr 30 07:10:03 if xrandr doest - too bad. xrandr's problem Apr 30 07:10:10 i know how it looks Apr 30 07:10:12 :) Apr 30 07:10:22 Sure, nobody thinks it's something that should be put in a production. But to just see how it looks workaround is ok. Apr 30 07:10:46 People are not interested to put a one-liner fix in xglamo just because nobody needs it, that's my guess. Apr 30 07:12:30 because everyone gets to wank off on having vga Apr 30 07:12:35 and then bitch about it being slow Apr 30 07:13:03 Gradients on QVGA look awful. Probably FR's screen is not usable for QVGA by design? Apr 30 07:13:39 ooh no Apr 30 07:13:50 gradeints and 16bpp look awful Apr 30 07:13:58 qvga actualy is quite nice with gradients Apr 30 07:14:11 but the problem is text or anything detailed will look blocky Apr 30 07:14:15 thanks to all pixels being doubled Apr 30 07:16:12 wouldn't they have the same size if the screen was QVGA? Apr 30 07:17:02 ie tiwice (err 4x) as big as now Apr 30 07:20:17 I guess this simulated pixel will look too sharp comparing to native QVGA pixel. Apr 30 07:22:25 raster: btw, i think i'm not the only one who'll be happy with no-fancy barebones ncurses interface that can be fast (if i understand it right) even in VGA. Apr 30 07:25:10 raster: btw, as you did actual measurements of SD performance. Do you think it hurts that SD clock is lowered by a factor of 8 all the time GPS unit is powered? Apr 30 07:26:39 PaulFertser: yes. it looks very sharp Apr 30 07:26:41 thats the problem Apr 30 07:26:54 if it was native qvga it'd be less sharp and i guess more acceptablke Apr 30 07:27:05 and yes Apr 30 07:27:12 sd io will suffer a lot Apr 30 07:27:20 its already bad without it being lowered Apr 30 07:28:02 raster: so do you think it'd make sense for somebody to do actual measurements to find out if this 8-times penalty is really needed (esp. on devices with hardware fix applied)? Apr 30 07:29:29 might be if there is a hw fix Apr 30 07:29:31 but its a give and take i guess Apr 30 07:30:09 personally i kind of have not a lot of faith in gta02 left :( Apr 30 07:30:33 there are just too many problems. my gta02's have the buzz, gps interference AND the LED power-consume problems Apr 30 07:32:26 i actually had some hopes gta03 would fix a lot. better cpu, hopefully none of the problems fr4om gta02 (after having learnt lesson) Apr 30 07:32:35 oh also the audio quality of gta02 is awful Apr 30 07:32:41 on headphones it sucks - no bass Apr 30 08:11:11 tracfeed: Ticket #419 (Udev does not ifup wireless interface) created Apr 30 08:56:07 tracfeed: Ticket #419 (Udev does not ifup wireless interface) updated Apr 30 08:58:17 I get the fucking -m0644 problem in my unstable kernel now Apr 30 08:58:50 why the fuck can't busybox get their command line right or the kernel insert a dammed space as the rest of the world does Apr 30 08:58:53 * spaetz is annoyed Apr 30 09:13:30 spaetz: what problem? Apr 30 09:39:45 /home/spaetz/src/shrbuildenv/shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/install-sh: ./-m0644 does not exist. Apr 30 09:40:11 when compiling. Some kernel Makefiles use install -m0644 Apr 30 09:40:28 all works well if you use install -m 0644 instead Apr 30 09:41:17 is there a way to get the behind a dbus busname? Apr 30 09:58:58 ptitjes, sorry for the question, what does modulo do for now? Apr 30 10:19:17 ptitjes, forgive me Apr 30 10:52:04 hi Apr 30 10:52:29 can somebody tell me how stop charging neo Apr 30 10:52:31 ? Apr 30 10:53:07 echo 0 > /sys/class/power_supply/usb/device/usb_curlim Apr 30 10:53:13 tobii_: echo 0 > chg_limit Apr 30 10:53:19 thx Apr 30 10:54:19 tobii_: it's chg_curlim actually. But on every change of usb_curlim the current setting is propogated to chg_curlim automatically. Apr 30 10:56:08 thx :) Apr 30 10:56:29 tobii_: why do you want to do that btw? Apr 30 11:43:55 Ainulindale: hi Apr 30 11:44:19 i still have bug with wrong timezone set by frameworkd with shr-unstable Apr 30 11:45:41 alexxy: have you set zonesources = NONE in frameworkd.conf? Apr 30 11:45:58 mrmoku: no Apr 30 11:46:04 alexxy: ahh... Apr 30 11:46:11 add [otimed] section with Apr 30 11:46:15 zonesources = NONE Apr 30 11:46:23 and frameworkd should not touch your timezone Apr 30 11:48:01 mrmoku: ok =) Apr 30 11:48:03 btw Apr 30 11:48:26 when i try to init opimd as you described yesterday i get this error Apr 30 11:49:41 it cannot find file cvs-contacts.txt Apr 30 11:50:05 also while restarting frameworkd there are errors with opimd Apr 30 11:50:09 and python Apr 30 11:50:31 alexxy: mkdir /etc/freesmartphone/opim Apr 30 11:50:37 and it should create it Apr 30 11:50:46 mrmoku: i already did it Apr 30 11:50:49 2009.04.30 13:17:29.165 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR factory method not successfully completed for module Apr 30 11:50:49 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opimd/__init__.py", line 39, in factory Apr 30 11:50:49 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opimd/backend_manager.py", line 83, in __init__ Apr 30 11:51:14 hmm... Apr 30 11:52:56 [opimd] Apr 30 11:52:56 contacts_default_backend = SQLite-Contacts Apr 30 11:52:56 messages_default_folder = Unfiled Apr 30 11:52:56 messages_trash_folder = Trash Apr 30 11:52:58 sim_messages_default_folder = SMS Apr 30 11:52:58 rootdir = ../etc/freesmartphone/opim:/etc/freesmartphone/opim:/usr/etc/freesmartphone/opim Apr 30 11:53:05 yep Apr 30 11:53:05 alexxy: does your frameworkd.conf look like that? Apr 30 11:53:16 i has this section in frameworkd.conf Apr 30 11:53:55 freesmartphone.org: 03dos 07framework * rbb58041dad66 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: opimd: SIM_Contacts_FSO: fix unicode handling Apr 30 11:54:05 root@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed frameworkd Apr 30 11:54:05 frameworkd - 0.8.5.1+gitr1309+1d4a6f96edf56531c891533bb7e704e2c950943b-r1 - Apr 30 11:54:12 what frameworkd version have you installed? Apr 30 11:54:47 alexxy: and as dos apparently has fixed the unicode handling of sim contacts :-) Apr 30 11:54:54 I will build an updated frameworkd soon now Apr 30 11:55:02 he he =) Apr 30 11:55:44 frameworkd - 0.8.5.1+gitr1309+1d4a6f96edf56531c891533bb7e704e2c950943b-r1 - Apr 30 11:55:56 so seems version is the same Apr 30 11:56:57 mrmoku: unicode in opimd fixed ;) Apr 30 11:57:46 dos1|neo: saw your commit :-) Apr 30 11:57:50 already building Apr 30 11:58:20 mrmoku: have you tested deleting contacts? Apr 30 11:58:22 dos1|neo: 13:50 < alexxy> 2009.04.30 13:17:29.165 frameworkd.subsystem ERROR factory method not successfully completed for module Apr 30 11:58:26 13:50 < alexxy> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opimd/__init__.py", line 39, in factory Apr 30 11:58:29 13:50 < alexxy> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opimd/backend_manager.py", line 83, in __init__ Apr 30 11:58:58 dos1|neo: implemented it... and had an error... rebuilding from scratch now... will take a while :( Apr 30 11:59:00 hmm? Apr 30 11:59:39 alexxy: do you have sqlite-contacts.db in /etc/freesmartphone/opim ? Apr 30 11:59:46 how looks that line? Apr 30 11:59:50 mrmoku: no Apr 30 11:59:59 mrmoku: it should create it Apr 30 12:00:17 dos1|neo: that's why I asked :P Apr 30 12:00:29 sorry Apr 30 12:00:32 i have it now Apr 30 12:00:32 =) Apr 30 12:00:37 after restarting Apr 30 12:00:53 alexxy: does InitAllEntries() work now? Apr 30 12:04:33 now Apr 30 12:04:43 seems i have contactsdb database Apr 30 12:04:53 how can i add contatcs? Apr 30 12:05:17 alexxy: check the script from dos (pim.py) Apr 30 12:06:02 can i add contact with multiple phones numbers? Apr 30 12:06:30 alexxy: adding them *might* work... but using definitely not Apr 30 12:07:35 I need to implement handling multiple phone numbers per contact in the gui Apr 30 12:07:50 and I don't know yet how that should be done interface wise Apr 30 12:08:08 well Apr 30 12:08:33 mrmoku: a contact simply has a list of key value pairs? Apr 30 12:08:34 contact name -> (if multiple numbers then select one) Apr 30 12:08:51 mrmoku: and key can be "landline", "GSM", "real name" ...? Apr 30 12:08:59 lindi-: think so... but keys are *not* unique Apr 30 12:09:47 lindi-: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=framework/subsystems/opimd/docs/contact_fields.txt;h=4cabcfb5685e07af73e4436ba960aaa06279c65d;hb=bb58041dad664f190db5200b47dc3139c474e254 Apr 30 12:18:03 mrmoku: but they don't need to be Apr 30 12:18:54 lindi-: yeah... but could (at least like it was intended by abraxxa) Apr 30 12:21:10 i want to push the local branch dbus-hlid to git.fso. is this the correct command: git push origin dbus-hlid:refs/head/testing/dbus-hlid Apr 30 12:22:39 only time I pushed to a remote branch different from master I fucked it up Apr 30 12:23:22 m0nt0: did you find some information ? Apr 30 12:23:52 ptitjes: think so yeah :-) Apr 30 12:24:17 ah ptitjes knows how to create a new remote branch :) Apr 30 12:24:33 good morning Apr 30 12:24:42 good morning Apr 30 12:24:57 I did go to bed at 6h00 and awake at &4h00 Apr 30 12:25:03 14 Apr 30 12:25:09 :D Apr 30 12:25:41 ptitjes: good morning then :P Apr 30 12:25:46 playya_: git checkout -b newbranch master Apr 30 12:25:52 playya_: do some stuff Apr 30 12:26:03 playya_: and then git push origin newbranch Apr 30 12:27:03 mrmoku: I'm making the enhancements for libfso-glib Apr 30 12:27:15 mrmoku: and I have a big news Apr 30 12:27:22 ptitjes: and I'm still struggling with that fucking libtool problem :( Apr 30 12:27:23 i used git branch dbus-hlid, git checkout dbus-hlid, *working. committing*, and now i want to push it Apr 30 12:27:39 big news are welcome :-) Apr 30 12:27:53 mrmoku: I implemented support in Vala for integer enums serialized as strings over dbus Apr 30 12:28:04 mrmoku: from the idea of Jürg Apr 30 12:28:26 * spaetz covers mwester's eyes and ears Apr 30 12:28:33 mrmoku: so we have what libframeworkd-glib has with constants for free Apr 30 12:28:40 :D Apr 30 12:28:44 ptitjes: nice :D Apr 30 12:29:33 mrmoku: the vala binding generator is ready to support (one commit is sleeping in local that I test the vala stuff completely) Apr 30 12:30:08 mrmoku: I did not sent the mail because I felt too much asleep before I end my work, so I'll do it during the day Apr 30 12:30:21 ptitjes: ok :) Apr 30 12:34:48 ptitjes, all rigth, looking into ophonekitd source and trying to dev something useful Apr 30 12:35:25 hi Didier Apr 30 12:35:50 m0nt0:I have to commit a thing the dbus-experimental branch of fso's vala-lang.git repository that you need to run libmodulo Apr 30 12:36:13 m0nt0: it has been forgotten on the older repo... Apr 30 12:36:25 I was wondiering how compile the vala-lang repository: I saw there is a "gir-writing" head but I'm not used to git and can't find how to 'switch' to that head Apr 30 12:36:27 Hello Deubeuliou !! Apr 30 12:36:51 Deubeuliou: you must use the pending-upstream-move branch Apr 30 12:37:13 so "git fetch pending-upstream-move" ? Apr 30 12:37:30 Deubeuliou: this is the one that aggregates all the topic branches (gir-parsing, gir-writing, mickey/0.7/posix and in some hours dbus-experimental) Apr 30 12:38:15 ptitjes, don't worry, i'm learning vala and i'm trying to understand the sources, but that's exactly what was on my mind Apr 30 12:38:19 Deubeuliou: for this you got to 'git checkout pending-experimental-move' Apr 30 12:39:05 m0nt0: the same applies to you, you'll have to rebuild vala from our git (using branch pending-upstream-move) Apr 30 12:40:09 ptitjes, thanks a lot, i'll do that Apr 30 12:40:10 ok Apr 30 12:40:31 freesmartphone.org: 03dos 07framework * rd8618a85a12a 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (docs/api_overview.txt pimd_contacts.py): opimd: fix possible ID conflict after deleting contact. Apr 30 12:41:17 err ptitjes git doesn't need a uri like git://host/dir/file.git? Apr 30 12:41:49 not if you are already in a checkout out repo Apr 30 12:42:17 i always did git clone something Apr 30 12:42:48 m0nt0: err, if you did git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/vala-lang.git Apr 30 12:42:51 ptitjes: is there something to do before the checkout ? it fails finding any files matching the name Apr 30 12:42:58 ahhhh ok, no Apr 30 12:43:05 then you only have git checkout branchname I think Apr 30 12:43:06 (btw: "upstream" or "experimental" ?) Apr 30 12:43:34 Deubeuliou: git checkout -b pending-upstream-move origin/pending-upstream-move Apr 30 12:43:48 arf ok Apr 30 12:43:51 thanks mrmoku Apr 30 12:46:59 ptitjes, sorry bugging you, git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/vala-lang.git done, cd vala-lang and then? Apr 30 12:47:00 tracfeed: Ticket #402 (openmoko-messages was interrupted by a Segmentation Fault) updated Apr 30 12:48:44 m0nt0: git checkout -b pending-upstream-move origin/pending-upstream-move Apr 30 12:50:17 Switched to a new branch "pending-upstream-move" Apr 30 12:50:18 is it correct? Apr 30 12:50:41 yep Apr 30 12:50:54 oh ok :D Apr 30 13:02:21 ptitjes: libfso-glib can't find gen-binding when compiling. I compiled/installed vala-dbus-binding-tools but it seems it wasn't the solution Apr 30 13:02:53 Deubeuliou: did you ./autogen.sh ? Apr 30 13:03:34 tracfeed: Ticket #363 (openmoko-message crashing) updated Apr 30 13:03:37 I think so. but not after compiling binding-tools, though Apr 30 13:05:24 ptitjes: same Apr 30 13:16:03 Deubeuliou: are up-to-date ? Apr 30 13:17:16 which repos ? vala-dbus-binding-tools ? Apr 30 13:18:05 ah, the makefile has canged Apr 30 13:18:16 ok :) Apr 30 13:19:04 deubeuliou@daneel:~/dev/vala/libfso-glib$ git checkout Apr 30 13:19:05 Your branch is behind the tracked remote branch 'origin/master' by 2 commits, Apr 30 13:19:08 and can be fast-forwarded. Apr 30 13:19:13 git pull Apr 30 13:20:55 Deubeuliou: sheesh... daneel... Apr 30 13:21:07 Daneel sucks, Hari Selond is better! Apr 30 13:21:16 :D Apr 30 13:21:26 s/Selond/Seldon/ Apr 30 13:21:27 Ainulindale meant: Daneel sucks, Hari Seldon is better! Apr 30 13:21:28 I very much like Fundation too :) Apr 30 13:21:30 (damn keyboard) Apr 30 13:21:43 Well I read it chronologically, and the end sucks Apr 30 13:21:44 I read both entirely Apr 30 13:21:52 Asimov didn't know how to write Apr 30 13:21:55 Robot's end ? yeah, I agree Apr 30 13:22:02 Nah, Fundation ending Apr 30 13:22:06 ah Apr 30 13:22:10 (Chronological) Apr 30 13:22:38 mmmh, the first part and the second part are very different, but I like both Apr 30 13:22:50 I focus more on the background than on the style Apr 30 13:23:16 (however, I just finished blade runner and it's boring even with an interresting backgound) Apr 30 13:23:22 anyway .. compiled :) Apr 30 13:26:25 First it's not blade runner Apr 30 13:26:32 it's "Do Androids dream of Electric Sheeps" Apr 30 13:26:38 Then, it's great, and you suck. Apr 30 13:26:41 K. Dick rules. Apr 30 13:26:44 :p Apr 30 13:27:54 I liked the book, but it is curious ... Deckard just go somewhere and shoots an android w/o any trouble Apr 30 13:28:26 I saw the film too and was disappointed the wasn't any reference of animals caring and Mercer Apr 30 13:28:47 what is the name of tha vala package created by libfso-glib ? Apr 30 13:29:06 "--pkg libfso-glib" nor "--pkg libfso" work Apr 30 13:29:20 philip k. dick Apr 30 13:29:26 If you'd like to know K. Dick, read "A Scanner Darkly" Apr 30 13:29:32 To me it's the best. Apr 30 13:29:49 (The movie isn't that bad even though Keanu Reeves' acting in it) Apr 30 13:29:50 iirc Apr 30 13:30:07 ok Ainulindale, will read Apr 30 13:30:30 Reeves is in it ? didn't notice. who is he playing ? Apr 30 13:30:47 Bob Arctor. Apr 30 13:31:04 He's the main character!! Apr 30 13:31:15 uh ???? Apr 30 13:31:35 ah, which Apr 30 13:31:37 oops Apr 30 13:31:48 there are two films, no ? Apr 30 13:32:34 I'm talking about "A Scanner Darkly" here Apr 30 13:32:38 ptitjes ok mrmoku: what is the name of the vala package ? Apr 30 13:32:41 aaah, sorry Apr 30 13:32:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpGaOqb2Z8 Apr 30 13:33:05 created by libfso-glib's compilation Apr 30 13:33:21 * mrmoku still has no idea about vala :P sorry Apr 30 13:37:27 ok, found it (freesmartphone-1.0) Apr 30 13:46:18 mickey|bbl: OE question. I use OE_MAKEEXTRA to pass a FONTDIR variable to make Apr 30 13:47:01 it works on my desktop, but in OE, make seems to ignore it although it gets called like this "make -j 2 FONTDIR=/blah" Apr 30 13:47:17 or anyone else Apr 30 13:47:21 tracfeed: Ticket #420 (Sending long sms from command line crashes the bus) created Apr 30 13:51:07 Deubeuliou: yeah sorry freesmartphone-1.0 Apr 30 14:14:16 Hey All! Apr 30 14:15:38 tracfeed: Ticket #363 (openmoko-message crashing) updated Apr 30 14:27:42 tracfeed: Ticket #383 (PSoD (Purple Stripe of Death) - When suspending the phone.) updated Apr 30 14:48:13 SHR: 03ptitjes 07libmodulo * r3008cf4733de 10/src/Makefile.am: Fix build system for Vala 0.7.x Apr 30 14:50:11 ptitjes: � poil ! Apr 30 14:54:06 Is purple stripe of death specific to a release that hasn't made it to testing yet? Apr 30 14:54:10 'caus I've never seen it Apr 30 14:54:16 s/caus/cause/ Apr 30 14:54:17 wurp2|working meant: 'cause I've never seen it Apr 30 14:57:24 wurp2|working, no Apr 30 14:57:32 I also had it before the testing copy Apr 30 14:58:17 wurp2|working: you won't ever see that horror on the gta01; that nightmare is one of the *features* we get with the glamo. For free! Apr 30 15:00:49 "ripped off the LCM, it broke in pieces during the process" [hw] PFFffff!!! 8-S Apr 30 15:03:04 really don't know what to answer. Don't feel like answer at all Apr 30 15:04:02 also: "Wrecked display **and the USB host**" WTF?? Apr 30 15:05:38 SHR: 03ptitjes 07libmodulo * r94016a6f3e40 10/samples/Makefile.am: Fix samples' build system for Vala 0.7.x Apr 30 15:07:23 this sort of mail kinda contributes to my foul mood today :-/ Apr 30 15:13:10 Wanton GTA02 destruction day Apr 30 15:13:25 DocScrutinizer: probably he didn't care about LCD that was already broken and applied extra force? Apr 30 15:13:54 probably. But then how did he wreck the USB host??? Apr 30 15:14:56 and why doesn't he cnsider to just replace the LCM instead of worrying about "completely destroying" his phone which to me it sounds it's already pretty fucked up Apr 30 15:14:57 DocScrutinizer: he didn't Apr 30 15:15:28 DocScrutinizer: he considers placing another usb host there, attaching instead of BT module. If i understand him correctly. Apr 30 15:15:51 yup, but what's the fschng purpose anyway? Apr 30 15:16:19 sorry, real foul mood today. should just shut up Apr 30 15:17:55 DocScrutinizer: np, his letter is really strange anyway (and i think nobody likes the fact he broke the screen instead of practicing a proper way to dismount it). Apr 30 15:19:13 ok :-) thanks for the cheering-up Apr 30 15:19:26 thought it's just me Apr 30 15:20:13 ptitjes: do you come at the buzz fix party, 7 May ? Apr 30 15:20:17 mwester: Wow, you guys get all the cool bugs Apr 30 15:21:03 (yeah, I know you personally have an 01 too) Apr 30 15:21:44 k, bye before I put my foot into something else... Apr 30 15:24:49 :) Apr 30 15:27:40 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r0e1969a8edff 10/framework/patterns/asyncworker.py: asyncworker: add synchronized version of AsyncWorkerQueue Apr 30 15:27:41 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * reaaecee6ae80 10/framework/resource.py: resource: use SynchronizedAsyncWorker as worker queue Apr 30 15:31:15 Ainulindale: tu vas avoir peur si je fais ça :) Apr 30 15:31:26 Deubeuliou: yeah for sure Apr 30 15:31:47 ptitjes: oui, beaucoup Apr 30 15:31:57 :) Apr 30 15:32:32 oui oui Apr 30 15:33:42 Ah, pauvres h�res qui ne savent pas parler fran�ais, que ne perdent-ils pas, ces m�cr�ants puants. Apr 30 15:34:06 >:-( Apr 30 15:34:09 (A complicated enough sentence so you'll be unable to translate it) Apr 30 15:34:41 don't underestimate the passive knowledge resulting from 6Y of french lessons Apr 30 15:34:45 SHR: 03ptitjes 07libmodulo * r774171a5ec4f 10/ (samples/Makefile.am src/Makefile.am): Fix build system to use new --gir valac option Apr 30 15:34:50 DocScrutinizer: :-) Apr 30 15:35:04 DocScrutinizer: when did you study french? the past century? Apr 30 15:35:16 sure Apr 30 15:36:04 feels like the century before even Apr 30 15:36:45 I was watching a movie with my son last week, and I pointed out it was happening in 1976 Apr 30 15:37:00 He said "aren't they dressed kind of modern for the 1900s?" Apr 30 15:38:04 Mwahaha. Apr 30 15:39:01 It kind of sucks to realize I spent almost my whole life in the 1900s ;-) Apr 30 15:40:16 hello wurp2|working Apr 30 15:41:05 ptitjes: Hey Didier! How are you? Apr 30 15:41:15 fine thanks and you ? Apr 30 15:41:56 Good. I'm just starting to send out resumes again for EU jobs :-) Apr 30 15:42:08 s/resume/CV/ Apr 30 15:42:09 wurp2|working meant: Good. I'm just starting to send out CVs again for EU jobs :-) Apr 30 15:48:55 Ainulindale: care to give me your valuable opinion? Apr 30 15:49:02 I'm playing around with distro configs... Apr 30 15:49:21 would I be better off to base on minimal.conf or on openmoko.conf? Apr 30 15:50:51 mrmoku: well Apr 30 15:50:56 I think we should fork openmoko.conf first Apr 30 15:51:01 As it'd be isofunctional Apr 30 15:51:27 so... the first shr.conf would be basically openmoko.conf with names replaced? Apr 30 15:52:29 yeah Apr 30 15:53:01 one problem that I'm having with ptitjes' vala stuff is the old libtool we have Apr 30 15:53:20 then modify it Apr 30 15:53:35 That's not that easy... requires newer other stuff too Apr 30 15:54:02 I'm trying a build with om-2009 versions include file now... Apr 30 15:55:56 * mrmoku wishes to have a nice build cluster :P Apr 30 17:34:34 tracfeed: Ticket #402 (openmoko-messages was interrupted by a Segmentation Fault) updated Apr 30 17:48:39 tracfeed: Ticket #402 (openmoko-messages was interrupted by a Segmentation Fault) closed Apr 30 17:58:42 tracfeed: Ticket #420 (Sending long sms from command line crashes the bus) closed Apr 30 18:15:12 ptitjes_: I got a message from piratebab who may be of interest to you Apr 30 18:15:25 According to him, I'm the only SHR developer interested in the users' opinion Apr 30 18:15:30 This made me laugh :-) Apr 30 18:16:03 pffff Apr 30 18:17:12 He has good ideas anyway Apr 30 18:17:25 ptitjes_: what do you do tonight? Apr 30 18:17:41 It's the 10th birthday of the hurling, the pub we went to with wurp2|working Apr 30 18:17:50 I'm going there Apr 30 18:18:16 naah thanks Apr 30 18:21:51 ptitjes_: I just forwarded the mail Apr 30 18:22:01 What's fun is that it's mostly what I was whining about these days Apr 30 18:22:12 Glad to see I'm not the only one :-) Apr 30 18:22:22 By the way a fellow french is trying to build QA processes Apr 30 18:22:29 Because we need that Apr 30 18:25:56 ptitjes_: hello Apr 30 18:26:20 ptitjes_: buzz fix at bearstech is in middle of my vacations :-( will not meet you and Ainulindale there :-( Apr 30 18:32:31 damn it, my SHR wiki account is again broken :-( Apr 30 18:33:54 Ainulindale: hi Apr 30 18:34:28 Ainulindale: my SHR wiki account is broken (firefox dectect an infinite redirect loop). Last time mrmoku fixed it by deleting my account Apr 30 18:34:47 Ainulindale: but people at that time first told me to ask you :-) Apr 30 18:34:52 Ainulindale: so here I am... Apr 30 18:44:16 Ainulindale: me too, what onen said Apr 30 18:52:08 * mwester too! Apr 30 18:52:24 (well, not even sure if I _have_ a wiki account, but I didnt' want to be left out... Apr 30 18:52:26 ) Apr 30 18:52:31