**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 01 02:59:57 2009 May 01 08:04:35 Can someone tell me the AT command for setting May 01 08:04:45 calypso chipset time - May 01 08:04:55 was mentioned (here I think) a few weeks back May 01 08:05:04 but I cant find it anywhere May 01 08:11:46 good morning May 01 08:11:57 morning May 01 08:18:54 hello May 01 08:19:29 should shr-settings survive a reboot? May 01 08:30:25 BluesLee: depends on what settings May 01 08:30:40 mrmoku: \o/ => http://git.gnome.org/cgit/vala/log/ May 01 08:31:00 mrmoku: hello btw May 01 08:31:13 ptitjes: hey :-) May 01 08:31:32 mrmoku: pending-upstream-move is being emptied as I fill it ;) May 01 08:32:10 ptitjes: what dependencies has libfso-glib? May 01 08:32:16 * ptitjes likes to wake up and see he has made commits during the night :) May 01 08:32:42 working while sleeping... very effective :P May 01 08:32:45 2sec May 01 08:32:57 mrmoku: I'll teach you if you want May 01 08:32:59 :D May 01 08:33:16 ptitjes: does it involve drinking lots of beer? May 01 08:33:25 sure!! May 01 08:33:29 part of the process May 01 08:34:04 mrmoku: according to that http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libfso-glib.git;a=blob;f=configure.ac;h=5bb0e51836233a09e559bf729dacbfd1ec04704f;hb=HEAD May 01 08:34:06 well... cannot be the whole story though... trying that for years May 01 08:34:13 without success ;) May 01 08:34:31 arf you don't have the force then May 01 08:34:33 sorry May 01 08:34:37 :) May 01 08:35:47 yeah.. think so... lacking force May 01 08:35:49 mrmoku: libfso's deps: dbus; tools needed: vala-dbus-binding-tool, valac, g-ir-compiler May 01 08:36:12 ok... and vala-dbus-binding-tool was the thing with libtool problems, right? May 01 08:36:12 deps += vala May 01 08:36:23 nah May 01 08:36:36 mrmoku: mickey|tv provided a recipe for it May 01 08:36:42 it is in fso/m5.5 May 01 08:36:47 * mrmoku checks May 01 08:37:57 ptitjes: where is it? May 01 08:38:24 * mrmoku is just blind... found it May 01 08:38:24 heyho! May 01 08:38:31 mrmoku: all the freesmartphone stuff are in the freesmartphone recipe dir May 01 08:38:33 morphis: hey, how's your display? :P May 01 08:38:45 mrmoku: btw libfso-glib should be there also May 01 08:38:48 ptitjes: was the first place I was looking... and did not see it :P May 01 08:38:53 find found it though May 01 08:39:11 mrmoku: don't have time until now to heat the phone :) May 01 08:39:28 maybe I will do it in the next hour May 01 08:39:36 mrmoku: did you try hard to work while sleeping this night ??? ;) May 01 08:39:57 ptitjes: not even the beer phase... no :( May 01 08:40:46 morphis: sylar has a scratched display and was asking how to change it... May 01 08:40:54 don't know if he wants to do it himself though May 01 08:41:12 ptitjes: I see only the native one though May 01 08:41:26 mrmoku: he contacted me already :) May 01 08:42:19 mrmoku: because we don't need it at runtime May 01 08:42:25 morphis: ahh :-) May 01 08:42:36 mrmoku: it is a vala code generator tool May 01 08:42:55 ptitjes: yeah... thought so... just asked, because playa did both me thinks May 01 08:43:06 mrmoku: backlight for instance May 01 08:43:29 mrmoku: yeah only -native May 01 08:43:43 mrmoku: only gobject-introspection need both native and target May 01 08:44:07 BluesLee: don't think so... dos1 would know better. And he said that he wants to integrate persistent settings soon. May 01 08:44:55 ptitjes: and libfso-glib can be used from c or any other language too? May 01 08:46:55 mrmoku: I would love that dos1 plays Vala May 01 08:47:45 mrmoku: the goal is that libfso-glib replaces libframeworkd-glib May 01 08:48:01 mrmoku: we now have the same support for enumerations May 01 08:48:11 mrmoku: I'll work on the error support in the next days May 01 08:48:36 mrmoku: so one can use libfso-glib in C transparently already May 01 08:48:54 ptitjes: would it make sense to switch the libframeworkd-phonegui-efl now? May 01 08:49:01 mrmoku: libfso-glib also provides a gir (that is compiled in a typelib) May 01 08:49:44 mrmoku: that introspection data also makes it possible to call libfso-glib from python, Java, Javascript and Perl May 01 08:50:07 * mrmoku is especially interested in Javascript ;) May 01 08:50:18 just kidding :P May 01 08:50:35 mrmoku: I think this is the way to go (switch the lib used by libframeworkd-phonegui-efl) May 01 08:50:43 mrmoku: as of the "now" I'm not sure May 01 08:50:45 ptitjes: what's a gir? May 01 08:50:55 the introspection data? May 01 08:51:03 morphis: GObject Introspection Repository May 01 08:51:06 ptitjes: if you add opimd stuff... I can switch the efl2 frontend May 01 08:51:27 morphis: it s a format that describe a C api and binary api May 01 08:51:46 ptitjes: ah ok May 01 08:51:48 mrmoku: I just wait that someone adds it to the XML specs May 01 08:52:00 ptitjes: hmm... it isn't? May 01 08:52:07 mrmoku: btw you can tell me (you that know the opimd api) is this complete ? May 01 08:52:25 mrmoku: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=tree;f=opim;h=8da56dde26c7b46e140f85af05e67353087e51b4;hb=HEAD May 01 08:52:30 mrmoku: I don't think so May 01 08:52:58 ptitjes: definitely not ;) May 01 08:53:04 mrmoku: :) May 01 08:53:21 mrmoku: so as soon as someone updates the specs, I regenerate May 01 08:53:43 ptitjes: look at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=libframeworkd-glib.git;a=tree;f=src/opimd/dbus;h=ff48bb7b33d50e29c9a82afdcf282bf185888383;hb=de8be494f4487515494575cf82a015c7c241435a May 01 08:53:49 mrmoku: btw I added two options to libfso's Makefile May 01 08:54:19 mrmoku: SPECS_PATH variable defines the path to the XML specs 'specs.git/xml) May 01 08:55:06 mrmoku: and --enable-typelib enables the GIR compilation to typelib with g-ir-compiler May 01 08:55:46 Ainulindale: ping, know you have a headache :P May 01 08:55:59 mrmoku: did you made the xml ? May 01 08:56:04 ptitjes: yep May 01 08:56:15 mrmoku: could you integrate that in the specs ? May 01 08:56:39 ptitjes: I can, but I don't know if I can commit it May 01 08:56:43 mrmoku: btw why doesn't libframeworkd get the specs from the source ? May 01 08:57:00 ptitjes: no, manually handcrafted :P May 01 08:57:15 hummm baaaad May 01 08:57:17 ptitjes: why? don't know... I just continued how it was started May 01 08:57:18 :D May 01 08:58:11 mickey|tv: We know you don't watch TV :D May 01 08:58:27 ptitjes: 'Frühstücksfernsehen' :P May 01 08:58:37 mickey|tv: may I add the XML work of mrmoku on opimd to the specs.git ? May 01 08:58:55 mrmoku: do you have a translation ? May 01 08:59:08 breakfast tv May 01 08:59:11 mrmoku: remember I just unlearned all my german May 01 08:59:16 ha yes May 01 08:59:23 the shows they are doing in the morning... with news and so May 01 08:59:25 fernsehen May 01 08:59:55 haaa I remember a bit of it!!! May 01 09:05:57 ptitjes: ok, looks like I could commit on the specs repo too... May 01 09:06:15 mrmoku: will you do it ? May 01 09:06:22 else I do it May 01 09:07:07 mrmoku: the XML files have to be splitted... I don't know why but mickey|tv seems to be bound that there are only one interface per xml file... May 01 09:07:53 ptitjes: yeah May 01 09:08:18 mrmoku: "yeah" you are doing it ? May 01 09:08:18 :) May 01 09:08:27 * morphis is now going to put his phone in the oven ... May 01 09:09:20 ptitjes: if you want me to... I can do it :-) May 01 09:11:23 mrmoku: but you already have lots of things to do... May 01 09:11:24 :) May 01 09:14:10 ptitjes: and you don't know what to do? May 01 09:15:51 arf arf arf arf May 01 09:16:01 mrmoku: I've plenty things to do :D May 01 09:16:12 mrmoku: did you read my mail on fso-standards ? May 01 09:17:02 brb May 01 09:21:32 ptitjes: ok, read it May 01 09:22:03 mrmoku: so still two important items before I can continue the work on ophonkitd May 01 09:22:21 mrmoku: but I think that at the end of the next week those items will be completed May 01 09:22:46 mrmoku: this will leave me two weeks to set ophonekitd back up and running May 01 09:23:10 mrmoku: this is why your recipes should be ready during next week May 01 09:23:18 ptitjes: and gives us (SHR) time to do another unstable -> testing cycle May 01 09:23:19 mrmoku: then we will all test it May 01 09:23:35 mrmoku: I don't know whether it will work as is May 01 09:23:47 mrmoku: I think we will catch up some problems :( May 01 09:24:12 mrmoku: because I had never got any chance to test it, as I don't have frameworkd on my desktop... May 01 09:24:13 ptitjes: like always :P May 01 09:24:21 pffffffffffffrrrrrrrrrrrr May 01 09:24:36 * ptitjes slaps mrmoku May 01 09:24:45 so display is off :) May 01 09:24:51 was not for your stuff only ;) May 01 09:25:01 * mrmoku slaps back ptitjes May 01 09:25:26 ptitjes: do you have some xml editor you use? May 01 09:26:01 yeah eclipse's one May 01 09:26:09 :) May 01 09:26:13 hmm... trying out conglomerate now May 01 09:26:22 git rebase -i is marvelous May 01 09:26:37 git in its whole completeness is marvelous May 01 09:26:40 juergbi(vala) just pointed that to me May 01 09:26:48 we're using it to backup servers too :P May 01 09:29:48 ok... off for a coffee... biab May 01 09:31:26 the same here :) May 01 09:42:12 DocScrutinizer: ping May 01 09:42:24 pong May 01 09:42:38 I replaced the display successfully May 01 09:42:55 nice to hear that May 01 09:43:07 but when I now starting the device I have only a white screen May 01 09:43:27 everything worked as supposed? May 01 09:43:41 hmm May 01 09:44:07 resettle the FPC in connector May 01 09:44:33 wait a moment May 01 09:50:28 ok, the old one is working so I don't broke anything May 01 09:52:11 it's probably rather hard to break anything on main PCB May 01 09:52:22 when replacing LCM May 01 09:54:31 ok the white screen disappeared May 01 09:55:07 morphis: correctly connecting FPC needs a little extra attention May 01 09:55:32 jepp I noticed that May 01 09:55:44 I think the FPC was fully in its slot May 01 09:55:59 you *thought* yeah ;) May 01 09:56:30 great May 01 09:56:37 thank you very much May 01 09:57:23 did nothing. welcome nevertheless :) May 01 09:57:54 you gave me the right tips to do the exchange :) May 01 10:04:36 morphis: did you warm up for peeling off sticky? was it difficult May 01 10:04:39 ? May 01 10:05:14 DocScrutinizer: yes I did it in my oven with 40-50°C for about 10 min May 01 10:05:24 then I could peel it off May 01 10:05:32 was easy :) May 01 10:05:35 :) May 01 10:06:43 mrmoku: do you know about the way errors are wired over dbus ? May 01 10:07:34 mrmoku: I know DBusError have 5 dummy integers May 01 10:08:10 mrmoku: are they used by frameworkd or only the name and message are used ? May 01 10:08:15 mickey|tv: ping May 01 10:13:58 ptitjes: no idea, sorry May 01 10:29:20 uh... May 01 10:29:35 why frameworkd doesn't set "busy" state on resume? May 01 10:29:56 my battery was almost flat, when i recievied sms shortly after i felt asleep :P May 01 10:40:35 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * r1b94f419a4ed 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_battery.py: [battery] answer in comments ;) May 01 11:33:35 mickey|tv: can you update master ? May 01 11:33:41 mickey|tv: of vala-lang.git May 01 11:34:37 mickey|tv: then I'll rebase my topic branches and the pending-upstream-move May 01 11:34:55 mickey|tv: got 18 of my gir-writing commits that went upstream :D May 01 11:43:29 I have to admit I got no real idea of winmobile. are all those apps java? if so, could they run on other os/platforms? May 01 11:48:24 http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework May 01 11:51:35 a battery for 3 euro? May 01 11:51:39 dos1: does this mean they're effectively selling batteries for 3 euro? May 01 11:52:34 budfive: they are fixing buzz and adding battery for 3 euro; but you have to pay for 2-way shipment May 01 12:05:06 dos1: is there any other place to even get their battery? May 01 12:05:23 dos1: a nokia battery would not give you the coloumb counter, right? May 01 12:05:55 yep May 01 12:12:42 ptitjes: master updated. congrats for getting 18 patches in May 01 12:13:15 thans :) May 01 12:13:20 +k May 01 12:15:51 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r0b34c8da7024 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_csv_contacts.py: opimd: CSV_Contacts: support deleting and updating contacts May 01 12:15:52 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r9ca94c43c6e9 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: opimd: add some stub for updating contacts May 01 12:16:10 mickeyl: I'm writing the xml spec files for the opimd interfaces... when I'm finished, shall I commit them or post them on the fso list for review? May 01 12:16:51 feel free to commit them right away, we can change later no May 01 12:16:53 s/no/on May 01 12:17:09 ok May 01 12:24:45 mickeyl: another question... just the interface as I found in opimd source? or as documented by abraxxa? May 01 12:25:11 i would not trust his docs May 01 12:25:18 i would start with mdbus May 01 12:25:19 mrmoku: you mean docs/ folder? May 01 12:25:22 introspecting the stuff May 01 12:25:26 to get a rough start May 01 12:25:33 then adding docs to the individual methods and signals May 01 12:25:38 mickeyl: yeah, that is what I did for libframeworkd-glib May 01 12:25:40 based on _your_ understanding of it May 01 12:25:52 ok, so I'm almost finished :-) May 01 12:26:04 dos1: yep, the api txt May 01 12:26:27 mrmoku: it shouldn't differ much with actual state. missing calls are marked ## :P May 01 12:26:48 dos1: yep May 01 12:26:50 mrmoku: you can document Update() too May 01 12:27:28 if you want to change Name to mrmoku, call it with {'Name':'mrmoku'} as argument May 01 12:27:28 dos1: just one arg a{sv} direction=in ? May 01 12:27:34 yep May 01 12:27:42 ok May 01 12:27:52 i decided to not play with multiple fields now May 01 12:28:27 as you can have as many custom fields, as you want... May 01 12:29:48 we can use *Phone fields to have multiple phone numbers May 01 12:30:07 Phone for general number, WorkPhone, HomePhone etc. May 01 12:30:49 and client have access to all fields, so it can check if some fields ends with 'Phone' and then play with those May 01 12:32:29 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * raa61450fb3cf 10/docs/ogsmd/ti_calypso/modem: [TI CALYPSO] document +CCLK oddity May 01 12:43:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07specs * r54312fcf90b5 10/opim/ (9 files): May 01 12:43:35 freesmartphone.org: add spec files for the PIM interfaces (opimd) May 01 12:43:35 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann May 01 12:47:33 ok... taking a break to fix my bike now :P May 01 12:57:57 cool, have fun May 01 13:09:49 mrmoku: no headache, just woke up May 01 13:09:51 I've got to go May 01 13:13:31 Hi all. I'd be interested in developing/bugfixing for my FR. Since my 'main' computer is a Macintosh G5, and I have a 'helper' machine running Ubuntu, I'd like to use a virtual machie (using qemu would be the most portable, I guess...), so that I can develop from both machines. Does anyone have a virtual machine 'ready', or instructions on how to make one? May 01 13:23:57 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r29fb45059828 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: opimd: Contacts: fix importing fields many times from the same backend May 01 13:23:57 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * re19e25452517 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_csv_contacts.py: opimd: CSV_Contacts: fix deleting May 01 13:24:03 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * rbf641ad11316 10/docs/ogsmd/ti_calypso/modem: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:framework May 01 13:25:06 mickeyl: ping May 01 13:25:30 bugs bugs bugs buzz May 01 13:25:32 yield tasklet.WaitDBus(gsm_sim_iface.DeleteEntry,['contacts', 1]) - should it work and delete contact with id=1? May 01 13:26:07 ChristW: do you mean you want to emulate a FreeRunner using qemu on both machines, or something else? May 01 13:27:33 mickeyl, any idea when you'll implement multipart sms dbus interface at? May 01 13:29:24 TAsn: some weeks ago May 01 13:29:42 you can already send multipart sms by setting the properties right May 01 13:29:43 mickeyl, cool, thanks, seems fast enough. ;] May 01 13:29:50 ;D May 01 13:29:51 the only thing missing is a convenience API for it May 01 13:29:57 dos1, any idea when you'll implement multipart sms gui interface at? May 01 13:30:02 alphaone|gone: will do that eventually May 01 13:30:05 TAsn: why i? :D May 01 13:30:13 ;D May 01 13:30:16 i'm working at opimd ATM ;) May 01 13:30:20 you were the last to write May 01 13:30:20 ;] May 01 13:30:28 s/at/on/ May 01 13:30:28 dos1 meant: i'm working on opimd ATM ;) May 01 13:30:39 dos1, okie, won't bother you ;] opimd is important! ;] May 01 13:35:24 TAsn: and working on opimd... he's got to do that anyway ;) May 01 13:35:42 (combining multipart messages) May 01 13:35:53 ;) May 01 13:36:01 dos1, got ya! May 01 13:36:11 you'll submit to my will! muhaha. May 01 13:36:20 but later - now working on Contacts domain May 01 13:36:21 mrmoku, thanks for the legal loophole. May 01 13:36:29 ;) May 01 13:36:37 TAsn: np May 01 13:36:41 dos1, one thing at a time. May 01 13:51:15 DocScrutinizer: ping May 01 13:55:20 bumbl: almost too late May 01 13:55:27 leaving now May 01 13:55:32 ;( May 01 13:55:40 wazzup May 01 13:55:47 how to debug the lcm issues i have May 01 13:56:06 purple screen of death, black/white screen of death, x screen of death,.... May 01 13:56:09 what issues? May 01 13:56:11 all happen random May 01 13:56:29 (without anything to get triggered) May 01 13:56:35 ti's purple stripe of death May 01 13:56:40 and it's not really random May 01 13:56:43 duh, sounds nasty May 01 13:56:56 well it is semi random ;] May 01 13:57:06 DocScrutinizer: had around 5 lcm related issues/day last week May 01 13:57:07 it only happens when you suspend while the screen is rotated May 01 13:57:13 reboot/suspend works May 01 13:57:14 well, you guys check it out. ping me later May 01 13:57:22 TAsn: and no, screen was not rotated May 01 13:57:29 ouch. May 01 13:57:40 the plague is mutating. ;] May 01 13:57:50 like swine flu May 01 13:57:58 bumbl: send a mail to support May 01 13:58:04 DocScrutinizer: ok May 01 13:58:11 i might contact my distributor too May 01 13:58:13 ml May 01 13:58:18 bumbl, yeah, exactly ;] May 01 13:59:05 TAsn: when i suspend while rotating i just get rows with an offset May 01 13:59:27 I also get weird stuff like that, though when rotating and then rotating back May 01 13:59:32 everything seems to work fine again. May 01 13:59:42 yep May 01 13:59:42 though the psod just jams the phone. May 01 14:00:01 TAsn: for me s&r always helped May 01 14:00:07 hooray for autosuspend May 01 14:00:09 nothing helps but taking out the battery May 01 14:00:34 well, I'm back studying. May 01 14:00:36 sucks ;[ May 01 14:00:42 for all of my totally random screen issues May 01 14:00:46 I want this semester to end already. May 01 14:00:46 yep May 01 14:01:01 I'm getting tired ;] May 01 14:01:11 * bumbl _has to_ read two books tis weekend May 01 14:01:23 I have to read just one May 01 14:01:32 not including studying to the test May 01 14:01:37 and doing a big h.w assignment. May 01 14:01:37 ;] May 01 14:02:21 and btw, here in israel weekend=friday to saturday! sunday is a regular work day! and it's already 5pm here! May 01 14:02:35 I'm doomed ;] May 01 14:02:39 hehe May 01 14:02:43 today May 01 14:03:47 anyhow, bye May 01 14:03:50 now for real ;] May 01 14:04:15 TAsn: today is national holiday here May 01 14:04:39 workers day? May 01 14:05:25 I think it's prety INTERnational May 01 14:05:46 it is ;] May 01 14:05:47 well, cya. May 01 14:05:51 yes May 01 14:05:57 we, in poland, have always long weekend at begining of may May 01 14:06:21 1 may - workers day; 3 may - constitution day May 01 14:08:11 third may is a sunday May 01 14:08:31 bumbl: in this year - yes :P May 01 14:08:34 * bumbl has a day off on 4th may May 01 14:08:45 * dos1 has two days off on 4th and 5th may May 01 14:09:00 from today to 5th may May 01 14:09:29 dos1: i have a nice long holiday from 23th april to 4th may May 01 14:10:02 ;) May 01 14:27:10 hmm May 01 14:27:33 mrmoku: i have removing contacts in SIM backend May 01 14:27:54 dos1: good :-) May 01 14:28:05 and I have some strange problem with libframeworkd-glib May 01 14:28:15 now writing adding contacts... but i need to know, how to find some empty index in contacts book May 01 14:28:29 like calculate_free_entry_index in phonegui-efl, but in python May 01 14:28:30 ;x May 01 14:29:28 so: May 01 14:29:54 Contacts domain now supports adding and deleting, and there is stub for updating May 01 14:30:02 SQLite backend supports adding and deleting May 01 14:30:14 CSV backend supports adding, deleting and updating May 01 14:30:18 SIM backend supports deleting May 01 14:31:00 and your long weekend hasn't even really started yet - you will be bored by tomorrow :P May 01 14:32:07 sun is shining... May 01 14:32:12 * mrmoku moves down in the garden :P May 01 14:34:05 mrmoku|away: no, tomorrow i will go out ;) May 01 14:34:25 i want to see what that mysterious "real life" means :D May 01 14:39:30 dos1: no... donÃ't do that ;) May 01 14:40:08 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r7e107d192583 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_contacts_fso.py: opimd: SIM_Contacts_FSO: implement deleting contacts and remove requesting/releasing GSM resource May 01 14:40:09 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r94fbe64d87b2 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_contacts.py: opimd: SQLite_Contacts: fix backend properties to be more accurate ATM May 01 14:41:01 mrmoku: i've never seen sun. what does it look like? :> i'm so curious ;D May 01 14:41:25 dos1: asking me? May 01 14:41:27 eating May 01 14:41:28 ;) May 01 14:41:40 yeah... eating is ok (and somehow necessary) :P May 01 14:55:11 dos1: eating fast is a hazard to your health :P May 01 14:55:54 15 minutes is fast? :x May 01 14:56:30 dos1: for the french part of our community... yes ;) May 01 14:56:38 hehe ;D May 01 14:58:10 dos1: hmm... I'm playing with wifiman.py while my build is building along... May 01 14:58:23 fine, it needs more love May 01 14:58:24 ;) May 01 14:58:27 if I hardcode the passphrase it gets one step ahead May 01 14:58:40 hmm May 01 14:58:41 shows my network with disconnect button May 01 14:59:07 mrmoku: maybe there is some end of line char on ending May 01 14:59:26 * dos1 is checking May 01 15:00:03 * mrmoku is checking too :P May 01 15:00:31 yep has
in the end ;D May 01 15:00:40 ^^" May 01 15:02:44 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * re308d8f32213 10/playground/wifiman.py: [playground] wifiman.py: fix passphrase handling. Thanks mrmoku ;) May 01 15:05:27 that's why it worked to me before implementing passphrase handling! May 01 15:05:33 i thought it was kernel fault :D May 01 15:06:10 uh, default route is still usb0 May 01 15:08:40 so... we should try to configure connman properly in shr ;) May 01 15:09:43 dos1: well... first we have to make it work ;) May 01 15:10:19 connect_callback() is called when it connected? May 01 15:10:44 mrmoku: it works for me now :x May 01 15:10:45 I have it... but it doesn't switch back to the list of networks May 01 15:11:06 dos1: you're doing WEP or WPA? May 01 15:11:10 WPA May 01 15:11:18 i only have to setup route manually May 01 15:11:21 me too...WPA2 to be precise May 01 15:11:41 * mrmoku reboots... to have a fresh device :P May 01 15:13:19 mrmoku: from what I know for French cars, you'll soon need weird tools to do any repair/mod on your FR then ;D May 01 15:14:36 DocScrutinizer: kernel vs. hardware error? May 01 15:15:20 as a suspend and resume seems to solve my lcm problems i would guess it is a kernel error May 01 15:15:39 pfff... let me guess. hw.. nah, kernel. O no, hw. well maybe uboot? May 01 15:16:11 bumbl: honestly, no clear idea here May 01 15:16:45 nevertheless I'd try to reconnect the LCM FPC May 01 15:16:53 DocScrutinizer: fresh device... not french device :P May 01 15:17:06 /msg NickServ identify MokoKitty May 01 15:17:23 fail May 01 15:17:30 DocScrutinizer: qi May 01 15:17:37 mrmoku: :P May 01 15:18:03 su May 01 15:18:05 qwerty May 01 15:18:05 ;) May 01 15:18:09 bumbl: try uboot May 01 15:18:56 hmm yeah May 01 15:19:51 dos1: ok, after reboot it works... don't get an ip though May 01 15:20:09 mrmoku: for me it gets ip, but doesn't set route May 01 15:21:01 nytowl: lower cutout voltage for 0% a value of 3V6 seems reasonable. May 01 15:21:02 my router says it has an ip... hmm May 01 15:21:21 dos1: are you using udhcpd or dhclient? May 01 15:21:29 mrmoku: udhcpd May 01 15:21:42 * DocScrutinizer is a lazy bugger, not updating on FSO #300 May 01 15:22:04 dos1: configured something? or should it work out of the box? May 01 15:22:11 (yes I have the connman plugin installed) May 01 15:22:15 well, good thing need time to ripe May 01 15:22:20 mrmoku: it should work out of box... May 01 15:22:26 DocScrutinizer, thanks I'm hoping Arhuaco is paying attention he's the one that's going to need to update it May 01 15:23:40 hmm... if I manually call udhcpc eth0 I get an ip May 01 15:24:17 and it sets a default route May 01 15:24:24 * mrmoku has two default routes now :P May 01 15:24:31 meh May 01 15:25:20 so you'll have double secure internet ;-) May 01 15:25:25 As stated on the ML by someone, the usb0 default route should have a metric set (so that it is not the preferred route when the wifi is live) May 01 15:26:21 (There's no real need to shut down usb0 when wifi comes up, which is what mofi does right now) May 01 15:26:22 * DocScrutinizer greps for metric May 01 15:26:37 man route May 01 15:26:45 :) May 01 15:27:53 wow, rather cryptic and discouraging ;-) May 01 15:28:41 we got a router daemon? It's using "METRIC"? May 01 15:28:43 And not entirely clear if the ip stack on the FR will actually use it, or not. May 01 15:29:57 nevertheless, we should at least set it, and try to figure out what replaces it if it is, in fact, not used on the FR kernel. May 01 15:30:48 It is not used by recent May 01 15:30:49 kernels, but may be needed by routing daemons. May 01 15:30:57 hehe... went upstairs to get a stylus... came back... and it suspended :P May 01 15:31:26 Yeah, that's what the man page says -- but they've been wrong before. The question is, what replaces it, if in fact it is deprecated. May 01 15:31:31 sure, what else? need to set autosuspend:off May 01 15:31:34 :P May 01 15:31:55 wow reconnecting worked even :-) May 01 15:32:07 ;) May 01 15:32:19 even resume on inbound GPRS traffic works here :) May 01 15:33:24 mwester: well if I was a kernel dev, I'd do a git-grep METRIC May 01 15:33:32 alas I'm not May 01 15:33:40 ;) it'll not be that easy, I expect! May 01 15:34:09 But since route and family were all replaced by the mysterious and hopelessly overloaded "ip" command, that's a good place to start looking... May 01 15:34:31 and the "ip route preference" command looks promising as a replacement for the metric. May 01 15:34:39 you're right, first we had to check route src to see actual structure name METRIC is stored to May 01 15:35:35 fsck ip May 01 15:36:13 * DocScrutinizer hates arbitrary cmd renaming, just to keep users alert May 01 15:37:33 keeps your brain fresh ;) May 01 15:37:37 "ip route preference" - lol. probably just another way to modify same byte May 01 15:38:06 mrmobil: actually it rots my brain from overload May 01 15:38:35 :) May 01 15:38:37 [2009-05-01 17:22:16] well, good thing need time to ripe May 01 15:38:53 no more to say May 01 15:39:35 I think that the debian-style /etc/networks/interfaces mechanism uses the "ip" (aka iproute2) underneath, so we may just be able to set a preference in the interfaces file itself. I'll look into it. May 01 15:39:57 mwester: cool May 01 15:41:05 mwester, theoretically connman could handle usb too May 01 15:42:18 yeahyeah, only how would conman enable IP-forwarding on host PC? May 01 15:42:22 donf know what state the plugin is in May 01 15:43:10 DocScrutinizer, same problem with the interfaces file May 01 15:43:17 well we could do a ping to a wellknown IP to see if USB is actually a valid route to internet May 01 15:43:56 if it is, it's even batter (METRIC-wise) than WiFi May 01 15:44:07 s/ ba/ be/ May 01 15:44:08 DocScrutinizer meant: if it is, it's even better (METRIC-wise) than WiFi May 01 15:46:00 well, if METRIC was implemented correctly there probably should be a fallback if best metric fails, to next best May 01 15:46:24 at least that's how routers are supposed to work May 01 15:46:43 afaik May 01 15:46:51 no network wizard here May 01 15:47:48 DocScrutinizer: seems not to work when the interface is static in still there though (even if cable is disconnected) May 01 15:48:00 s/in/and/ May 01 15:48:02 mrmoku meant: DocScrutandizer: seems not to work when the interface is static in still there though (even if cable is disconnected) May 01 15:48:21 http://www.google.de/search?q=route+metric+internet May 01 15:55:51 there's no sense in nuke-safe arpanet concept if Metric doesn't failover May 01 15:56:56 mrmoku: looks like i have fixed duplicating entries on InitAllEntries in Contacts domain ;) May 01 15:57:07 woooohooo May 01 15:57:10 :P May 01 15:57:59 what do you do? hash over each entry? May 01 16:00:09 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r5e762d827495 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: May 01 16:00:09 freesmartphone.org: opimd: Contacts: return successful merge when trying to add contact, which already exists May 01 16:00:09 freesmartphone.org: It should close "Don't duplicate contacts when calling InitAllEntries twice" ticket on my paper-trac :) May 01 16:00:37 DocScrutinizer: there was merge function... which always was returning "False" :P May 01 16:00:43 dos1: what's "return successful merge"? May 01 16:00:48 with "#TODO: Implement this method" May 01 16:00:54 hehehe May 01 16:00:58 so i started implementing it ;) May 01 16:01:08 what do you actually do? May 01 16:01:16 merge fields? May 01 16:01:30 DocScrutinizer: no, there is still TODO :D May 01 16:01:37 :D May 01 16:01:40 he just returns True now ;) May 01 16:01:47 lol May 01 16:01:59 it only checks now, if contact already exists May 01 16:02:06 if yes, it returns True May 01 16:02:11 how do you do that? May 01 16:02:21 compare *all* fields May 01 16:02:32 or ommit spaces? May 01 16:02:42 it compares all fields May 01 16:02:44 or even hash? May 01 16:03:16 if they are not equal, contact should be merged May 01 16:03:18 so it'd be simple to merge on a fields level, no? May 01 16:03:33 it should, yes ;) May 01 16:03:48 but merging isn't implemented at the moment May 01 16:03:59 so it returns False when fields are not equal May 01 16:04:05 actually there is no correct way to merge without user interaction May 01 16:04:34 is it expected to have 5 notices for an active call in the logs? May 01 16:04:47 DocScrutinizer: there is. when you need user interaction, you've got case when merge fails ;) May 01 16:05:11 merging is for situations, when you have some fields on one backend, and some fields on second backend May 01 16:05:19 in the end you stand and ask "the number for smith was edited in both databases. which one to discard now, or even keep both?" May 01 16:05:20 May 1 09:50:18 calvino oeventsd.fso_triggers INFO Receive CallStatus, status = active May 01 16:05:20 that's how i understand it after reading code ;x May 01 16:05:23 is repeated 5 times May 01 16:05:38 within 1 second May 01 16:06:57 DocScrutinizer: keep both. one in first contact, and one in second contact May 01 16:07:10 dos1: the orthodox way May 01 16:07:11 when merging fails, is adds new contact May 01 16:07:21 s/is/it/ May 01 16:07:21 dos1 meant: when merging fails, it adds new contact May 01 16:07:38 DocScrutinizer: it's not my way. it's only how i understand existing code ;) May 01 16:07:45 dos1: good enough for now :))) May 01 16:08:35 frameworkd also seems to be becoming unresponsive for me after every call right now May 01 16:08:45 I made one outgoing call to my voicemail May 01 16:09:09 dos1: nevertheless I'd like to see field based merge. I.e ne record contains addr for "smith", one contains number. merge addr & number to make one combined contact May 01 16:09:25 trying to make a second call after that ended, gave me an "Unable to call" error, and now it's not responding to any dbus messages at all May 01 16:10:02 dos1: it's dead simple, if you compare each field anyway May 01 16:10:09 johnsu01: what distro are you using? May 01 16:11:04 DocScrutinizer: but you can have "combined" contacts. you can have as many fields as you want. merging is only needed, when data for the same contact comes from different backends May 01 16:11:28 yup, well understood May 01 16:11:28 mrmoku: debian May 01 16:12:17 dos1: nevertheless I could have a "smith" with telnum on SIM, and a "smith" with addr but *no* num on local db May 01 16:12:45 dos1: would be great to merge them May 01 16:13:06 depends... if they are both the same smith... :P May 01 16:13:06 dos1: as you noticed we *can* have combined contacts May 01 16:13:57 well, if I got multiple "smith" wich don't differ except for number, I'm in triuble anyway May 01 16:14:47 the contact fields doc is talking about an unique id May 01 16:14:49 DocScrutinizer: that's exactly the case of, unimplemented now, merging May 01 16:15:17 Phone field on SIM backend, Address field on SQLite backend May 01 16:15:25 yup May 01 16:15:28 and presenting it as one contact May 01 16:15:34 exactly May 01 16:15:40 that's exactly what that TODO says ;) May 01 16:16:11 so go implement it! ;D it's less work than writing the word "ToDo" ;) May 01 16:16:14 and what we would need an unique id for... May 01 16:17:16 unique id are all fields that are non-empty in *both* records May 01 16:17:48 DocScrutinizer: that would not work... if you have some fields here and some fields there though May 01 16:17:58 i.E an empty field is kinda wildcard that is replaced by actual value if the cmpare matches May 01 16:18:09 k May 01 16:18:13 ahh May 01 16:19:11 mrmoku: {'Name':'dos', 'Number':'tel:+48666666666'} on SIM, and {'Name':'dos', 'Address':'Hell'} on SQLite database May 01 16:20:14 and after quering contact in opimd: {'Name':'dos', 'Number':'tel:+48666666666', 'Address':'Hell'}, with _used_backends = [SIM_Contacts_FSO, SQLite_Contacts] May 01 16:20:17 if ((f1a == f1b) or (f1a == "") or (f1b == "")) and (f2a == f2b... May 01 16:21:17 So *that's* where you live, dos1? May 01 16:21:25 exactly ;) May 01 16:21:26 right now every field stores the name of the backend where it came from... May 01 16:21:37 (or is supposed to at least ;) May 01 16:21:45 then {if (f1a != "") then f1z = f1a; if (f1b != "") then f1z = f1b... May 01 16:22:49 return true} else return false May 01 16:24:34 DocScrutinizer: hmm... wouldn't two contacts that share no field merge then? May 01 16:24:48 sim has name and sqlite has number... merge? May 01 16:25:09 mrmoku: no May 01 16:25:16 mrmoku: they must share name May 01 16:25:18 if tey only have a number and other one a name, yes they would May 01 16:25:44 that's a flaw though May 01 16:26:01 maybe we should request they share at least one nonempty field May 01 16:26:36 DocScrutinizer: no. imagine whole family, which the same 'Surname' :P May 01 16:26:49 we could even extend this scheme to a best match pattern May 01 16:27:04 dos1: whare's the problem? May 01 16:27:22 they are supposed to have different prenames May 01 16:27:27 DocScrutinizer: hmm... yep May 01 16:27:30 so no problem May 01 16:27:31 ;D May 01 16:28:19 if your sim has only surname and number, all family members would share same number after merge May 01 16:28:54 except if you assigned a diferent number in the nin-sim db prior to that May 01 16:29:02 ok May 01 16:29:03 non-sim May 01 16:29:07 so i know how to do that May 01 16:29:17 * dos1 is adding it to his paper-trac May 01 16:29:24 cool May 01 16:29:30 you made my day May 01 16:29:46 * DocScrutinizer loves it to convince other people about a concept May 01 16:31:02 mrmoku: what do you think. should opimd call initallentries on startup, or it should be some client (ophonekitd for instance) ? May 01 16:31:41 dos1: until there is only initallentries... May 01 16:31:55 dos1: thought we talked about that? depends on definition of initallentries semantics May 01 16:31:57 I think there is still missing stuff... like init only specific sources May 01 16:32:12 mrmoku: it can be done May 01 16:32:20 dos1: it should be done ;) May 01 16:32:58 definition should be done correctly, so those questions would be obsolete May 01 16:33:14 API def that is May 01 16:33:40 DocScrutinizer: hmm.. i can't remind it... initallentries requests all backends to read entries, and then all contacts are merged or added. May 01 16:34:32 so it obviously should be done in constructor of whatever object is using these calls May 01 16:34:48 so, right now frameworkd is hung and not responding to dbus requests, but still claiming the dbus name May 01 16:35:17 the /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd restart script can't stop the running one May 01 16:36:05 dos1: if i get it right, that is constructor of opimd then May 01 16:37:25 dos1: nevertheless opimd should export a method to re-invoke init May 01 16:37:51 to force a sync from e.g. ophonekitd May 01 16:37:59 DocScrutinizer: it exports method to invoke init now, but it's not invoking it on startup May 01 16:38:11 should do both May 01 16:38:15 ok May 01 16:38:28 dos1: and while your at it... you could fix GetState :P May 01 16:38:39 GetState? May 01 16:38:59 source interface has GetState() May 01 16:39:12 don't know what it is supposed to do though :P May 01 16:39:27 probably tell if the backend is initialized May 01 16:39:30 it looks like it's for backends which needs connecting May 01 16:39:40 to some internet server etc. May 01 16:39:45 what is it returning now? May 01 16:39:48 remote backends yeah May 01 16:39:54 dos1: nothing... does not work May 01 16:40:10 lol May 01 16:40:31 definition is FIRST! ;-) May 01 16:42:03 * DocScrutinizer *hates* API docs that just mention a bunch of methods, but don't bother about clear spec of semantics May 01 16:42:55 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * rd1fa4df75446 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: opimd: Contacts: ignore special _backend fields when merging May 01 16:43:01 ALSA being a really great negative example May 01 16:43:15 >:-( May 01 16:50:05 any idea what these messages mean? May 01 16:50:08 i think opimd milestone 0.1 is reached :D May 01 16:50:11 May 1 07:13:49 calvino /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[2407]: gsm0710muxd.c:1437:extract_frames(): Pty write buffer overflow, data loss: needed to write 19 bytes, written 0, channel 2 May 01 16:50:31 there are a lot of them, and they are happening when there isn't any call or sms activity May 01 16:50:39 not good May 01 16:51:10 mickey|gardening: ping FSO-BUG May 01 16:51:42 johnsu01: what version of gsm0710muxd are you using on debian? May 01 16:52:44 on SHR we have 0.9.3.1+gitrabcbcd7cc532a8834906de3fc24c8f8fe7643cd4-r0 May 01 16:52:48 and it works nicely May 01 16:52:58 mrmoku: Version: 0.9.3.1-1 May 01 16:52:59 mrmoku: the question seems to be: who's not reading out pty? May 01 16:53:19 anyway... have to eat now :-) May 01 16:53:28 mrmoku: okay, thanks May 01 16:53:34 mrmoku: enjoy May 01 16:58:08 pong, what'sup ? May 01 16:58:58 johnsu01: try fso-abyss May 01 16:59:28 mickeyl: this runs in place of gsm0710muxd? May 01 16:59:38 so to speak May 01 16:59:52 once you have installed it, you can switch ogmsd to use it May 01 16:59:55 [ogsmd] May 01 17:00:00 ti_calypso_muxer = fso-abyss May 01 17:00:13 be sure to use the latest versions May 01 17:00:31 0.3.3 is said to fix the flow control problem w/ gprs May 01 17:01:31 although definite reports on that are pending May 01 17:01:46 mrmoku, Ainulindale: shoudn't we try to use fso-abyss in shr-unstable? May 01 17:02:07 give it a try May 01 17:02:20 the only reason we didn't make it as default in ms5.5 is that it introduces different timing May 01 17:02:31 and we didn't want to be surprised May 01 17:02:34 :) May 01 17:03:07 if there are any bugs, i can fix them in abyss May 01 17:03:11 i won't in gsm0710muxd May 01 17:05:48 hi May 01 17:17:36 tasklets... May 01 17:17:55 how to use them? ;x May 01 17:18:21 there are some examples in tasklet.py May 01 17:18:23 "Tasklet deleted without being executed" in google finds only fso pages May 01 17:18:27 tough to get at first May 01 17:18:36 charlie is the expert here May 01 17:18:45 ok, will look at it May 01 17:20:51 dos1: I'm always open for new stuff :-) May 01 17:23:19 dos1: we could start to offer it as alternative... build them both May 01 17:32:34 abyss depends on gsm0710mux? May 01 17:32:45 johnsu01: noticed that too while building May 01 17:33:17 on gsm0710mux or gsm0710muxd? May 01 17:33:21 hm, and it depends on a version newer than in debian May 01 17:33:24 if without d it looks correctly May 01 17:33:57 hi,I have a m810 and I'm trying to adapt m800's kernel to my device.My device has a different touchscreen(240x320).I've already made the screen work but I have issues with the input part of the touchscreen, how do I configure ts_filter? May 01 17:34:01 mrmoku: i have initing all entries on opimd startup :) May 01 17:34:04 dos1: yeah.. you're right... without d May 01 17:34:56 and it does not build :( May 01 17:34:58 error: gsm0710-1.0 not found in specified Vala API directories May 01 17:35:37 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r239ed9e29d37 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/backend_manager.py: opimd: init all entries on startup May 01 17:39:48 ~seen ecraven May 01 17:39:48 ecraven was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 60d 44m 1s ago, saying: 'is there a pre-packaged debian jffs2?'. May 01 17:42:11 dos1: right, so is the actual dependency libgsm0710mux? May 01 17:42:21 johnsu01: i don't know ;) May 01 17:42:39 I'm about to find out I guess :) May 01 17:46:34 mrmoku: as you requested: May 01 17:46:37 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r10c83916c3eb 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/backend_manager.py: opimd: add Init() method to Source May 01 17:46:40 ;) May 01 17:47:15 dos1: could you stop comitting please - just finished a build :P May 01 17:47:20 :D May 01 17:47:51 DocScrutinizer: now config ;) May 01 17:48:04 dos1, is there something using opimd yet? May 01 17:48:13 TAsn: libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 May 01 17:48:29 is there something using that? May 01 17:48:30 dos1: :) May 01 17:48:35 (is it in the image?) May 01 17:48:48 TAsn: in image no, but in repo May 01 17:49:16 and is it somehow as feature rich as the previous? May 01 17:50:06 TAsn: it's buggy now, but it supports adding and deleting contacts May 01 17:50:49 cool. May 01 17:51:07 thanks, go back to work, don't let me interrupt you! ;] May 01 17:51:27 deleting does not yet work correctly though :P May 01 17:51:46 what provides fsotransport? May 01 17:53:35 * ptitjes discovered git stash and is going mad of it May 01 17:53:43 hehe :-) May 01 17:54:03 stash away your dirty stuff ptitjes ;) May 01 17:54:57 TAsn: you can install it in addition to the normal efl frontend May 01 17:55:09 and switch between them by changing /etc/freesmartphone-phonegui.conf May 01 17:55:12 deleting does not yet work correctly though :P May 01 17:55:14 I think I'll wait. May 01 17:55:15 ;] May 01 17:55:39 coward ;) May 01 17:55:43 I actually like my current moko installation, it's stable and works great, and I use the moko as my primary phone, so no time for playing around May 01 17:55:50 well not at least I'll finish my exams May 01 17:55:50 ;] May 01 17:55:59 :) May 01 17:55:59 s/I'll/I/ May 01 17:57:02 TAsn: hehe, same here May 01 17:57:16 DocScrutinizer, week old unstable? May 01 17:57:29 cause that's what I have. May 01 17:57:30 ;] May 01 17:57:32 nah, 2009-04-16 testing May 01 17:57:47 mrmoku, now, DocScrutinizer is a coward! ;] May 01 17:57:54 DocScrutinizer, not even using unstable?! ;] May 01 17:58:01 peple.om.org/joerg/shr May 01 17:58:52 Actually I like my unstable better than I liked testing. May 01 17:58:57 anyhow, I'm off. ;\ May 01 17:58:58 ciao. May 01 17:59:11 no I always am reluctant to try any new rootfs | kernel, as I can't ensure to test all the things again I already checked May 01 18:01:17 I'd prefer to cherrypick particular new versions of apps etc May 01 18:05:55 fsotransport is in cornucopia.git May 01 18:11:57 hi, if someone has a kenrel question...where should he ask? in the kernel mailing list or here? May 01 18:18:00 Gnutoo: kernel ml is good May 01 18:18:07 ok thanks May 01 18:20:46 asking won't hurt here as well ;-) May 01 18:21:35 the libfsotransport configure script apparently doesn't check for valac, which it needs to compile May 01 18:25:07 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r306f7b159914 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/backend_manager.py: opimd: don't init entries from backends disabled in config May 01 18:25:19 DocScrutinizer: as requested ;) May 01 18:25:41 cool May 01 18:29:59 DocScrutinizer: you can still init them by hand ;) May 01 18:37:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r3f733b42ccc3 10/src/opimd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): May 01 18:37:42 freesmartphone.org: opimd: add opimd_contact_update May 01 18:37:42 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann May 01 18:39:58 SHR: 03mok 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r619b4dc1ff15 10/src/view/contact-edit-view.c: contacts: edit contacts via opimd May 01 18:40:22 nice May 01 18:40:36 but opimd doesn't have editing contacts yet :DDD May 01 18:41:08 and untested ;) May 01 18:42:20 anyway I'd like to update on my testing-2009-04-16 :) May 01 18:44:09 what happend with gsm0710muxd-0.9.3.tar.gz from here http://www.freesmartphone.org/sources/ ? May 01 18:44:16 mickey|dinner, ! May 01 18:44:55 Does anybody can say, what I should use instead? May 01 18:51:41 other than the setting under ogsmd, do I need to do something to get abyss to start? May 01 18:54:03 johnsu01: guess it gets autostarted... don't know though May 01 18:54:16 it looks like the dbus conf file didn't get installed by make install May 01 18:54:32 oh, it did, nm May 01 18:56:24 dos1: some of the work I've done you did too (today's commit) :P May 01 18:59:14 gustavold: hehe ;) but what is other? May 01 19:00:15 heh, my english May 01 19:00:20 dos1: not much, just catching the exception when connmand is not running and showing a message to the user May 01 19:00:36 gustavold: nice, send it to me please ;) May 01 19:00:48 dos1: right May 01 19:02:25 dos1: another thing I was planning to work is updating the routing table automatically May 01 19:02:40 dos1: but I'm not sure wifiman.py is the right place to do it May 01 19:02:46 gustavold: but shouldn't it be handled by connman? May 01 19:02:56 dos1: probably May 01 19:05:38 well, I have May 1 15:04:26 calvino ogsmd.modems.ti_calypso INFO Requesting new channel from 'fso-abyss', but nothing after that, and it doesn't look like abyss is starting May 01 19:08:57 mrmoku: what do you want to have in opimd next? May 01 19:08:59 ;) May 01 19:18:46 is there an autocenter button in tangogps for you? May 01 19:19:13 i miss that with the shr tangogps version http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/ebc4680f44dc5fa6133f0ff26cb18643.png May 01 19:19:51 meh looks like fso-abyss can't find libgsm0710mux.so.0 May 01 19:20:10 even though it's in /usr/local/lib May 01 19:23:57 mickey|dinner: when you get back ^ May 01 19:47:31 dos1: Update? May 01 19:47:57 just because I already did it :P May 01 19:49:26 hello May 01 19:49:51 mrmoku: doing it now May 01 19:49:52 ;) May 01 19:50:03 ;D May 01 19:50:15 what's in the pot? May 01 19:55:29 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * ra3e400f7a8ee 10/playground/wifiman.py: [playground] wifiman.py: display info when connman isn't running. Patch by gustavold May 01 19:58:53 so did anybody provide a less annoying alternative to pidgin yet? May 01 19:59:21 bzzbot, hi! May 01 19:59:31 DocMobilizer: I use erc+bitlbee ;) May 01 20:00:22 hhmm, which package? May 01 20:00:24 tracfeed: Ticket #422 (config ring-tone regression) created May 01 20:00:37 DocMobilizer: on Debian, though May 01 20:01:25 xchat works nice May 01 20:02:37 mrmobil: install what? May 01 20:03:15 ~seen Dave May 01 20:03:16 dave was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 15d 6h 42m 21s ago, saying: 'dos1, I thought opimd was just a legend!? :o'. May 01 20:03:19 omg May 01 20:03:26 lazylulu got him May 01 20:03:27 ;) May 01 20:03:38 xchat ;) May 01 20:03:38 unstable though May 01 20:03:38 (shr) May 01 20:04:12 rumor is he's dead :-o May 01 20:05:45 DocMobilizer: that is what neos do to human brains ;( May 01 20:06:51 max_posedon: hi there, back again? May 01 20:07:08 yep. did I miss smth? May 01 20:07:25 mickey haven't return?) May 01 20:07:33 DocMobilizer, and yes, Hi!) May 01 20:07:40 not that I knew of May 01 20:08:31 may be somebody other except mickey can what is suggested to use instead gsm0710muxd-0.9.3? May 01 20:09:27 max_posedon: fso-abyss is the replacement, right? May 01 20:11:52 I'm speaking about *working* replacment) May 01 20:12:01 I don't know fso-abyss status May 01 20:12:38 max_posedon: hm, well, he just told me to use a recent version of it, which I took to mean that it was working well enough to try and use and file bugs on :) May 01 20:13:15 ok, I'll ask another way May 01 20:13:33 I want link to sources of smth, that shr-testing use now May 01 20:14:50 I'm fine with use unstable stuff and report bugs, but don't want provide very unstable stuff to gentoo users... May 01 20:16:14 tracfeed: Ticket #423 (unable to specify the tune # for .sid using the gui) created May 01 20:20:34 hello May 01 20:20:49 what is shr-testing-bad? May 01 20:22:14 shr-testing which doesn't work May 01 20:22:19 cyberalex: thats an idea of mrmoku May 01 20:25:07 bah, I hate the stupid bug concerning unicode char counting and the fact there is no way to send multi SMS, half of the sms I send per day are never sent! ;[ and I use sms A LOT! crap. I just ditched someone on the last minute because he didn't get the sms I sent earlier... bah,nvm, I'm out ;] May 01 20:25:47 TAsn: isn't multi-sms a fso issue? May 01 20:26:12 think alphaone was working on that May 01 20:27:56 use delivery confirmation ;D May 01 20:28:19 ah, DocMobilizer good you mention it May 01 20:28:36 * mirko-paroli adds confirmation messaging enable/disable to his todo list May 01 20:31:23 mirko-paroli: that would be a good feature May 01 20:31:44 BluesLee: I have been looking for it in the fso specs, it was there, somewhere ;) May 01 20:32:55 MRMOKU, fix *-bad!! May 01 20:33:10 mirko-paroli: i dont know if its shr related, some folders would be good for sent/received messages May 01 20:33:45 BluesLee: I guess that would go into opimd May 01 20:34:10 btw I am not shr, I am more on the om2009 side of things May 01 20:34:21 never tried that:-) May 01 20:34:27 should i? May 01 20:34:36 hehe depends what you want May 01 20:34:43 what do i get? May 01 20:34:47 it makes the FR a phone May 01 20:35:07 and is a slick distro May 01 20:35:16 maybe i should backup and try it May 01 20:35:21 with the focus on stable phoning May 01 20:35:28 but it also has flows May 01 20:35:32 flaws May 01 20:35:41 there was a new testing today May 01 20:35:59 is it stable yet? what about speed? May 01 20:36:12 speed in which area? May 01 20:36:14 booting? May 01 20:36:17 apps ? May 01 20:36:30 both May 01 20:36:37 booting not so much imho May 01 20:36:50 speed for starting apps? May 01 20:36:51 apps, I was just told that it responded nicely May 01 20:37:04 I guess the starting won't differ much May 01 20:39:23 never tried paroli May 01 20:39:40 that also runs on shr May 01 20:39:47 i heard May 01 20:39:51 is it a gui? May 01 20:39:56 yepp May 01 20:40:07 our phone gui May 01 20:40:14 will try it this weekend May 01 20:40:30 if you got questions/comments/ideas let me know May 01 20:40:33 one of many May 01 20:40:37 hehe May 01 20:40:44 paroli looks really good May 01 20:40:46 zhone/shr gui/paroli May 01 20:40:52 epydial does too May 01 20:40:59 and what are the disadvantages? May 01 20:41:01 i don't like zhone that much May 01 20:41:03 btw I just found the setting for delivery report, will try to build that tomorrow May 01 20:41:28 are there any screenshots? May 01 20:41:35 shr-apps have imo some designflaws (will post my concerns in tracks tomorrow May 01 20:41:38 ) May 01 20:41:39 http://www.paroli-project.org May 01 20:42:06 under running paroli you'll find screens May 01 20:42:22 rough screens, they are the "ideal" work on that begins next week May 01 20:42:34 we are close to those, but not quite there yet May 01 20:43:30 mrmoku: updating contact work with CSV backend May 01 20:43:35 but now deleting is broken with CSV ^^" May 01 20:44:00 mirko-paroli: i will test it May 01 20:44:08 BluesLee: nice :) May 01 20:44:44 bumbl: any screens for epydial ? May 01 20:45:16 mirko-paroli: scap.linuxtogo.org May 01 20:45:38 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/c691a52fa5385a2bbb766ef4e8881844.png <- all that look similar to that May 01 20:45:47 thx May 01 20:45:50 epydial uses pyneo + efl May 01 20:46:07 looks nice May 01 20:46:12 (currently they are moving from edje to pure evas) May 01 20:46:17 wow May 01 20:46:29 dos1: btw why csv not vcard? May 01 20:46:41 http://django.yourse.de/screenshots <- new homepage (under construction) May 01 20:46:46 no May 01 20:46:52 have to play bg now May 01 20:47:20 DocMobilizer: cause it was before ;D May 01 20:47:36 DocMobilizer: if you want, write vcard backend. there is sqlite backend too. May 01 20:47:42 bumbl: looks really nice May 01 20:47:48 :-/ May 01 20:47:59 * mirko-paroli dreams of someone creating themes for paroli ... May 01 20:47:59 mirko-paroli: features are: inclusion of a music player, pylgrim (similar to tangogps), calculator, wheather, hot or not,... May 01 20:48:27 darn getting light already May 01 20:48:38 mirko-paroli: the default paroli theme looks good May 01 20:48:40 hehe May 01 20:48:42 mirko-paroli: themes? hehe May 01 20:48:45 * mirko-paroli needs to head to bed and dream of delivery reports in paroli May 01 20:48:47 no need for new themes May 01 20:48:50 hehe May 01 20:49:03 something more funky ;) May 01 20:49:09 mirko-paroli: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/43241319081834704c050236c21e980c.png May 01 20:49:13 mrmoku: ok, now it works :) May 01 20:49:22 mirko-paroli: some blues May 01 20:49:30 yeah May 01 20:49:45 mirko-paroli: greet balkony;-) May 01 20:49:47 BluesLee: ;) too many colours May 01 20:49:50 :p May 01 20:49:58 DocMobilizer: will do, although it is a different one May 01 20:50:15 duh?? May 01 20:50:18 bumbl: you are right May 01 20:50:38 bumbl: sure would probably go back to default after a week ;) May 01 20:50:58 k, have a good night May 01 20:51:03 i.e. night everyone May 01 20:51:08 gn8 May 01 20:51:16 night May 01 20:51:23 sorry, how to switch illume keyboard automatically in a script? May 01 20:51:32 whereever you arre May 01 20:51:58 cyberalex: which programming language? May 01 20:52:02 where do i find frozen bubble? May 01 20:52:11 shell May 01 20:52:12 s ripr May 01 20:52:23 cyberalex: ni idea then May 01 20:52:24 script May 01 20:52:40 i just know how to do it in python and C May 01 20:52:41 even May 01 20:52:46 ok May 01 20:52:56 although i would appreciate if there would be a dbus way to get it up May 01 20:53:02 how to do that in c? May 01 20:53:03 fsckng need bt kbd May 01 20:53:07 as that would ease things a lot May 01 20:54:20 apropos kbd, shr should change the default one to a more finger friendly one May 01 20:54:22 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=blob;f=src/illume_kbd.c May 01 20:54:27 well booze time;) May 01 20:54:43 baaah May 01 20:54:46 thank you May 01 20:55:01 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r13cd1b7d8538 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (docs/api_overview.txt pimb_csv_contacts.py pimd_contacts.py): May 01 20:55:01 freesmartphone.org: opimd: Contacts: implement Update(); allow backends to use sync() after deleting or updating; May 01 20:55:01 freesmartphone.org: CVS_Contacts: use sync(). May 01 20:55:45 toothpick friendly terminal kbd May 01 20:57:04 mrmoku: now CSV allows adding, editing, deleting May 01 20:57:16 SQLite allows adding and deleting May 01 20:57:20 SIM allows deleting May 01 20:57:32 next i will write editing in SIM and SQLite May 01 20:57:35 there is no fingerfriendly kbd on 2'8 ts (except fullscreen) May 01 20:57:43 and last: adding in SIM May 01 20:57:48 and then - Messages ;) May 01 20:57:57 DocMobilizer: you have thick fingers then May 01 20:58:15 dos1: *thumbs up* May 01 20:58:17 opimd May 01 20:58:45 dos1: adding sim needs explicit addressing of record index! May 01 20:58:49 faster progress than on gnu hurd and duke nukem forever May 01 20:58:54 DocMobilizer: i know... May 01 20:59:21 dos1: formaster :) May 01 20:59:41 that's why i will do it after everything else :D May 01 20:59:45 \o/ May 01 21:00:24 suspending now May 01 21:00:43 ahh doesn't help May 01 21:01:03 anyway May 01 21:05:44 dos1, i just looked into opimd/docs/contact_fields.txt and the uri scheme for jabber probably should be xmpp: instead of jabber:// ( http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0147.html ) May 01 21:06:19 Wiedi: contact_fields.txt? is there somebody, who cares for that file? D: May 01 21:06:20 :D May 01 21:06:33 it needs to be rewriten May 01 21:07:19 not sure what use it is, just think it's better to change such things now before we have data in a "wrong" format everywhere :D May 01 21:11:09 DocMobilizer: what would you suggest to fix shr-testing? May 01 21:14:37 in Update() adding new fields is broken now May 01 21:16:19 so use Update only for really updating May 01 21:19:28 hmm is there a howto out there on howto do relations with sqlite? when googeling all info i find is that you can do relations May 01 21:22:50 ok, i'm quitting now May 01 21:22:55 good night :) May 01 21:22:55 me too :) May 01 21:22:59 good night May 01 21:23:24 will try all your nice stuff tomorrow ;D May 01 21:23:43 lightweights! The day is still young! May 01 21:24:02 mwester: what would you suggest to do with shr-testing? May 01 21:24:37 blow it up May 01 21:24:51 updating EFL while blowing up? May 01 21:25:11 we'll have to get unstable into a usable state, then update the testing git repos to match, and rebuild. May 01 21:25:46 ok... I'm rebuilding an unstable with current EFL on my box May 01 21:25:48 (That's my opinion, anyway -- if the efl stuff caused it to break, then something in testing must still be ${AUTOREV} May 01 21:25:53 and that's wrong) May 01 21:26:18 it was the change in the OE e recipes... May 01 21:26:25 EFL_SRCREV kept the same May 01 21:26:27 Yeah, but how did that leak into testing? May 01 21:26:37 Isn't testing fixed at a specific tag? May 01 21:26:49 tag on the MS 5.5 branch, I mean? May 01 21:26:53 fixed to a specific EFL_SRCREV... but PR got bumped May 01 21:27:01 If no, then testing is barely better than unstable. May 01 21:27:03 ahh... no. unfortunately not May 01 21:27:13 Ok, that's our mistake then. May 01 21:27:16 yep May 01 21:27:34 btw... testing was broken anyway... no shr illume config May 01 21:27:46 Ok, then presumably only the efl stuff is affected -- let's rebuild and see what happnes. May 01 21:27:50 happens, even. May 01 21:28:06 without bumping efl then... just with your hackery to make it work? May 01 21:28:11 No shr illume -- I confirmed on my system that if you build absolutely NO locales, that's what happens. May 01 21:28:20 Yes, just my "hackery". May 01 21:28:50 ok, will do that. tomorrow morning - too tired now :P May 01 21:29:00 oh, ok. May 01 21:29:11 no matter what we do... people can't upgrade anyway :( May 01 21:30:25 and fix testing the OE rev of ms5.5 we have now... May 01 21:30:33 that it won't happen again ;) May 01 21:30:44 fix onto even May 01 21:30:51 see... I'm tired May 01 21:30:58 night all May 01 21:46:25 mirko: The thing that is missing is FragmentUserData May 01 21:46:30 how does one programatically trigger the illume keyboard? May 01 21:46:42 But you can send/receive multi SMS even without May 01 22:31:38 tracfeed: Ticket #422 (config ring-tone regression) closed May 01 22:48:30 hey shr devel, is possible to stop shr-messages to open my incoming message and leave them on the sim without displaying them? ok mod the source but there's another way? May 01 23:30:26 PaulFertser: could we filter all those annoying "foo left the room" msgs on BiP? they drain my FR bat ;-) May 01 23:32:11 shouldn't be any difficulty May 01 23:48:43 hmmm, let's see how suspend/dim/idle 1sec pans out ;) May 01 23:50:30 FR awake! ;D May 01 23:52:43 FSCK! needs a click to *suspend* o.O May 01 23:55:34 exactly the wrong way round. should suspend immediately as long as NO click, but possibly stay away longer when user interaction (preferrably no click but rather hw button press) May 01 23:57:18 FR awake! ;D May 02 00:22:27 SHR: 03frazier.cameron 07shr-settings * rf2cd249856af 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_battery.py: [Battery] minor change to rate presentation May 02 01:38:54 rate??? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 02 02:59:57 2009