**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 22 02:59:57 2009
May 22 03:00:31 <eliasp> usb networking seems to be broken in the latest unstable image... does anyone know how to "repair" it? on restarting networking, the interface usb0 isn't created... 
May 22 03:00:39 <eliasp> i just get "No such device"
May 22 03:01:04 <Toaster`> eliasp: do you have a new eth device?
May 22 03:01:42 <eliasp> Toaster`: no, just the loopback device, nothing else
May 22 03:01:43 <Toaster`> SHR has moved to a fixed MAC addrss, so the FR appears as a ethN device
May 22 03:01:50 <eliasp> and there aren't any modules loaded at all...
May 22 03:02:06 <eliasp> ok, wouldn't mind if it wasn't usb0 any longer....
May 22 03:02:15 <Toaster`> or are you meaning on your FR?  I was meaning on your desktop
May 22 03:02:18 <eliasp> but there aren't any interfaces besides 'lo' ...
May 22 03:02:22 <eliasp> i mean on the FR itself
May 22 03:02:26 <Toaster`> ahh, sorry
May 22 03:02:40 <Toaster`> was this a fresh flash?
May 22 03:03:03 <eliasp> yes, fresh flash using the latest -unstable image from ~10h ago
May 22 03:03:39 <Toaster`> hrm, have you tried rebooting?  simple, but it might help
May 22 03:04:56 <eliasp> yes, quite some times... but i think i found the problem which causes this problem: 'depmod -ae' tells me it couldn't open /lib/modules/2.6.29-rc2/modules.dep.temp ... "No such file or directory" ... it seems there's something messed up with the kernel...
May 22 03:04:58 <eliasp> a
May 22 03:05:15 <eliasp> i should probably reflash the kernel
May 22 03:05:30 <Toaster`> did you only flash the rootfs?
May 22 03:05:39 <eliasp> yes
May 22 03:06:24 <Toaster`> ok, then I agree with you, try reflashing the kernel.  The modules may be out of sync
May 22 03:09:48 <eliasp> ok, done.. let's see what happens now ;-)
May 22 03:11:07 * Toaster` crosses his fingers
May 22 03:14:25 <eliasp> ok, usb0 on the FR is back... now i just need to get it running on the Laptop...
May 22 03:14:39 <eliasp> ok, it actually appears as eth1 there...
May 22 03:14:50 <eliasp> going to rename it back to usb0 using udev ;-)
May 22 03:15:31 <eliasp> ok, done... 
May 22 03:15:38 <eliasp> and everything is working again as it should
May 22 03:15:42 <eliasp> thx for your help
May 22 03:16:00 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mwester 07shr-overlay * r1340278e71be 10/patches/fastboot/0003-netbase-No-longer-parse-etc-network-options.patch: netbase: update patch to account for PR being bumped upstream
May 22 03:16:04 <Toaster`> Not sure what I did, but if that's all it takes, I'll help every time :)
May 22 03:16:11 <eliasp> hehe
May 22 03:20:02 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mwester 07shr-overlay * r79ef4c400ca3 10/patches/fastboot/0003-netbase-No-longer-parse-etc-network-options.patch: Revert "netbase: update patch to account for PR being bumped upstream"
May 22 03:21:49 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mwester 07shr-overlay * rc3740d6f51e8 10/patches/fastboot/0003-netbase-No-longer-parse-etc-network-options.patch: netbase: update patch to account for PR being bumped upstream
May 22 03:21:59 <mwester> That's better. Sorry for the noise.
May 22 03:22:56 <eliasp> mwester: i don't mind the noise, as long as its about yummi fresh updates ;-)
May 22 03:23:39 <mwester> No, it's just fixing a fastboot patch.  I thought it might have been causing the network issue, but it's just "janitorial" work as it turns out. 
May 22 03:24:17 <mwester> I applied it to the wrong branch, and had to revert it. :(
May 22 03:24:49 <eliasp> ok, so anyways... devs are allowed to make any noise they want ;)
May 22 03:26:43 <Toaster`> Speaking of noise...
May 22 03:27:11 <Toaster`> or not...
May 22 03:27:13 <Toaster`> Damnit
May 22 03:27:31 <eliasp> Toaster`: yeah, now you did some noise too... ;)
May 22 03:27:41 * Toaster` makes noise
May 22 03:27:48 <CIA-75> SHR: 03frazier.cameron 07shr-settings * re6bf5f0363f0 10/playground/shr-settings-toolbar: [Playground] Scroller anti-bounce added
May 22 03:27:49 <CIA-75> SHR: 03frazier.cameron 07shr-settings * r62772eb5b1c9 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_currentprofile.py: [CurrentProfile] Ringtone preview added, cleanup of .sid track presentation
May 22 03:27:53 <Toaster`> TaDa
May 22 03:28:25 <eliasp> ;)
May 22 03:28:54 <Toaster`> ok, I'm off.  I'm sick and am supposed to work tomorrow, oh joy oh bliss...
May 22 03:29:19 <eliasp> hmm, just did an 'opkg update && opkg upgrade' on my freshly installed -unstable image ... it complains about a conflict between edbus-ehal edbus...
May 22 03:29:28 <eliasp> Toaster`: get well soon... cu
May 22 03:29:56 <Toaster`> eliasp: you may want to check with the other guys on that... but I just '-force-overwrite' it.
May 22 03:30:06 <eliasp> k
May 22 03:30:48 <Toaster`> ok, Night
May 22 03:42:30 <eliasp> which module needs to be loaded for WiFi? ar6000? it seems the update has killed WiFi temporarily and to fix it i need network again....
May 22 03:44:54 <eliasp> i have loaded ar6000 but no interface appears... usually there's nothing else required to just get the interface... or am i missing anything?
May 22 04:13:13 <eliasp> got it now updated without working WLAN... but i still can't start any of the items in 'Settings'
May 22 04:22:27 <eliasp> is this a known bug, that 'Settings' gets unusable after an 'opkg upgrade' on -unstable?
May 22 04:35:57 <eliasp> this is strange.... if i reboot i have the eth0 interface for a while but it disappears after ~60 seconds
May 22 04:39:51 <eliasp> how would i enable WiFi using ophonekitd/d-bus?
May 22 04:56:55 <eliasp> hmm, seems 'opkg update && opkg upgrade' on -unstable isn't a good idea at all... going to reflash it now and not doing an update afterwards....
May 22 05:02:55 <Blu3> eliasp, that's an ongoing argument
May 22 05:03:27 <Blu3> at the moment, there's no way to have wifi turned on and stay on from boot without interaction or boot script modification
May 22 05:05:12 <Blu3> i'll pastebin a script i use for manually starting wifi after rebooting the phone
May 22 05:06:00 <Blu3> http://pastebin.ca/1430635
May 22 05:07:09 <Blu3> as for things breaking after opkg upgrades ... grin and bear it.  :(  opkg sucks the fattest a$$ for package management and devs don't have the time to ensure dependencies are fully satisfied. and of course, software has bugs.
May 22 05:07:26 <Blu3> if something breaks, open the terminal, and run it from there
May 22 05:07:51 <Blu3> chances are good that this will reveal a missing library
May 22 05:08:13 <Blu3> (re)install the library and things should start working again
May 22 05:10:18 <eliasp> re
May 22 05:10:25 <eliasp> Blu3: thx a lot, i'll try that...
May 22 05:10:50 <Blu3> eventually things improve, albeit slowly :>
May 22 05:11:27 <eliasp> hehe, ok
May 22 05:12:22 <eliasp> i don't have problems working on a terminal... but now i just couldn't get it working, no matter what i did... even on the terminal.. and it seems the missing piece was your 'mdbus' line from the script...
May 22 05:13:19 <Blu3> :)
May 22 05:13:47 <Blu3> learning how to use mdbus is possibly the single biggest chunk of frustration relief i've had with regards to this fone
May 22 05:14:18 <Blu3> i have oodles of scripts now with mdbus calls; a bit more reliable than shr packages ;)
May 22 05:15:05 <eliasp> hehe, yes... D-Bus is a real PITA in other environments too... it was really painful getting used to D-Bus on KDE4.. DCOP on KDE3 before was that easy....
May 22 05:15:26 <roh> and slow
May 22 05:15:32 <eliasp> althoug i see the advantages of D-Bus, i miss the usability of DCOP
May 22 05:15:34 <eliasp> yes ;(
May 22 05:16:03 <Blu3> a couple months ago i was a complete noob to python, dbus, everything FSO, and everything OM, and everything SHR
May 22 05:16:10 <roh> actually i wondered why kde was so stubborn to keep some corba-esque part that long in such a major role
May 22 05:16:44 <roh> Blu3 hey cool.. means that you actually learned quite a lot because it wasnt as good as i could *g*
May 22 05:16:54 <roh> s/i could/it could/
May 22 05:16:54 <bzzbot> roh meant: Blu3 hey cool.. means that you actually learned quite a lot because it wasnt as good as it could *g*
May 22 05:16:55 <Blu3> heheheh, i've learned tons
May 22 05:17:07 <Blu3> and right now i'm learning how to do gtk and python
May 22 05:17:16 <Blu3> writing a new sms app
May 22 05:17:23 <roh> same here.. wouldn know that much python without administering the trac ;)
May 22 05:17:52 <Blu3> to be honest, until this week, i've not touched it for more than a few minutes ever before
May 22 05:18:28 <Blu3> being me, i dive head first (and usually get bloodied) trying to do more than "hello world" for my first program
May 22 05:19:15 <Blu3> but i've actually gotten somewhere.  i have an app that reads the message store, the contact store, sorts according to timestamp (and oh HEY.  it SHOWS the correct timestamp), and shows the msg
May 22 05:20:07 <Blu3> i'm trying to figure out a problem where my "loading stuff" gtk pane won't display, but other than that i'm doing pretty spiffy w/ it
May 22 05:21:05 <Blu3> wondering how to fetch MMS messages, but not finding much clue about it.  all i know right now is the sms i have in hand has a url in it, which i've converted back into a string, but trying to fetch that url on my fone goes nowhere.  wget just times out
May 22 05:21:37 <eliasp> Blu3: wow, great... i program a lot, but never got around doing a GUI application... most of my code is RubyOnRails... but i plan to start learning all this SHR stuff in July... just have to finish some other projects befroe
May 22 05:21:40 <Blu3> and unfortunately there's close to zilch on fso/om for info, nor the intertubes
May 22 05:22:04 <Blu3> well, thanks.  it's a project born out of need.  i need a functional sms app
May 22 05:22:41 <Blu3> the default shr messaging app is pretty bare bones and breaks on every other opkg upgrade
May 22 05:23:39 <Blu3> i started writing it yesterday, i expect to implement message deletion and sending tomorrow
May 22 05:24:31 <eliasp> i've given up using my FR as phone but i'll fly to Istanbul in 14h where i want to do some GPS tracking for OSM... so i try to get tangoGPS ready + loaded with some already existing maps of this area...
May 22 05:24:40 <eliasp> wow, you're pretty fast
May 22 05:24:52 <Blu3> once i get the hang of something, i'm off and running
May 22 05:25:01 <eliasp> heeh
May 22 05:25:03 <Blu3> it's that initial leap off the cliff learning curve ;]
May 22 05:25:12 <Blu3> i use my FR daily, constantly
May 22 05:25:33 <Blu3> it's a good motivator to make things better
May 22 05:25:51 <eliasp> i have major issues here with the GSM-buzz + echo bug... and i need a working phone for my business... so it wasn't usable at all until now ;(
May 22 05:26:13 <Blu3> ahh.  are you going to send it in for the buzz fix?
May 22 05:26:41 <eliasp> there's a hardware buzz-fix? do you know how much this will cost?
May 22 05:27:23 <Blu3> i don't know the exact details but it goes a little like this.  you pay something and ship it to a guy, and i think he has a deal set up with OM.  he fixes your fone and you get a free spare battery i believe
May 22 05:27:53 <eliasp> oh, ok... where do you have this information from? any mailinglist, forum etc URL?
May 22 05:27:58 <Blu3> i don't know the url for it, but you mentioned istanbul so i think you're in his neck of the woods
May 22 05:28:04 <Blu3> lemme see if i can find something
May 22 05:28:27 <quatrox> eliasp: you are not from germany, are you?
May 22 05:28:30 <eliasp> i'm actually in Germany... just going 9 days for holidays to istanbul
May 22 05:28:41 <quatrox> wow
May 22 05:29:06 <quatrox> eliasp: if you are close to Essen-Horst, you may want to make a trip
May 22 05:29:31 <eliasp> quatrox: not actually (Stuttgart), but sending a package is cheap enough ;)
May 22 05:29:32 <Blu3> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty
May 22 05:29:37 <eliasp> Blu3: thx a lot
May 22 05:30:12 <Blu3> y/w
May 22 05:30:24 <Blu3> there are several references in there that will help you
May 22 05:30:53 * Blu3 prepares the torture rack and starts opkg ugrade for tonight
May 22 05:31:43 <Blu3> hopefully someone will have fixed framework/ophonekitd/dbus which have been very crashy the last few days
May 22 05:31:55 <quatrox> eliasp: the reason I mentioned Essen-Horst, is that we will have a workshop here ( http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/FSOSHRUDCON%2709 ), but postal package would be too
May 22 05:32:11 <quatrox> ... take too much time
May 22 05:32:26 <eliasp> quatrox: ah, ok
May 22 05:39:54 <eliasp> hmm, i don't really understand this... the FRs will be fixed 4 free + i'll get an additional battery? i'd be really willing to pay something for the fix... what intentions does this guy have? is he hired by the BND to implement the Bundestrojaner? ;-)
May 22 05:40:43 <Blu3> i don't know what the deal is, i suspect it's a thingy set up by OM
May 22 05:41:10 <eliasp> ok, that's really great... didn't expect this from OM as they're currently in financial trouble ...
May 22 05:41:34 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mok 07shr-overlay * r498397bc7a4e 10/patches/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git+ssh://git@shr.bearstech.com/shr-overlay
May 22 05:41:44 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mok 07shr-overlay * rc492e0b520c5 10/openembedded/recipes/ffalarms/ (ffalarms_0.2.1.bb ffalarms_0.2.2.bb): ffalarms: bump to 0.2.2 (should fix evas problems)
May 22 05:59:38 <mrmoku|a`> viq, looks like for ffalarms there is a solution :)
May 22 05:59:54 <mrmoku|a`> I built 0.2.2... which is supposed to fix it
May 22 06:14:49 <Blu3> mrmoku, is it in the repo yet?
May 22 06:19:37 <mrmoku|a`> Blu3, yep
May 22 06:19:42 <mrmoku|a`> (unstable)
May 22 06:19:59 <Blu3> hmm, *reruns opkg*
May 22 06:20:49 <mrmoku|a`> opkg update; opkg upgrade
May 22 06:22:43 <Blu3> yes, i know ;)
May 22 06:22:52 <mrmoku|a`> :)
May 22 06:23:23 <viq> mrmoku|a`: sweet :)
May 22 06:23:29 <mrmoku|a`> Blu3, it just wen't to the feed one second, before I announced it here... so maybe you tried before
May 22 06:23:34 <mrmoku|a`> viq, hope so :)
May 22 06:23:38 <Blu3> k
May 22 06:23:40 <viq> upgrading now
May 22 06:23:53 <Blu3> yup, 'tis there now
May 22 06:24:01 <viq> hah, so I paid attention at an opportunate moment too ;)
May 22 06:24:19 <viq> ffalarms: unsatisfied recommendation for mplayer
May 22 06:24:31 <viq> should I be worried and install it, or just ignore?
May 22 06:24:55 <viq> mrmoku|a`: yes, ffalarms starts now, thank you :)
May 22 06:25:36 <mrmoku|a`> viq, fine :) regarding mplayer... will build it (though I guess you will already have it and there is no need to update)
May 22 06:26:10 <viq> I didn't try installing it before, I guess I will
May 22 06:26:35 <viq> Is there in the repositories anything for updating OSM maps?
May 22 06:26:54 <viq> oh
May 22 06:27:00 <viq>  * Cannot find package mplayer.
May 22 06:27:06 <viq> anyway, breakfast time ;)
May 22 06:27:25 <eliasp> viq: good idea... going now for a show + breakfast too
May 22 06:27:40 <eliasp> s/show/shower/
May 22 06:27:40 <bzzbot> eliasp meant: viq: good idea... going now for a shower + breakfast too
May 22 06:34:54 <mrmoku|a`> viq, if you come back from breakfast... mplayer is in the feed now
May 22 06:38:06 <Blu3> how 'bout openvpn 2.1? :)
May 22 06:38:43 * Blu3 needs sleep
May 22 06:41:55 <viq> sweet, thanks :)
May 22 06:43:42 <eliasp> openvpn-2.1 would be really great.... 
May 22 06:47:28 * viq runs
May 22 06:53:47 <mrmoku|a`> Blu3, openvpn missing too?
May 22 06:54:57 <Ainulindale> mrmoku|a`: help ... me... to... wake ... up
May 22 06:55:07 <Ainulindale> I didn't know this hour existed :'-(
May 22 06:55:41 <Ainulindale> mrmoku|a`: FYI my raw tmp copy seemed to work
May 22 06:55:52 <Ainulindale> (from/to x86_64à
May 22 06:56:07 <mrmoku|a`> Ainulindale, hehe :) WAKE UP
May 22 06:56:15 <Ainulindale> So I'll even have a working tree on my laptop
May 22 06:56:19 <Audiomonster> hi all :)
May 22 06:56:32 <mrmoku|a`> Ainulindale, I almost borked my FR last night... downloading Tango Maps of Essen ;)
May 22 06:56:37 <Audiomonster> are there any openmoko's u-boot developers in here by any chance ?
May 22 06:56:48 <mrmoku|a`> it started to hang... and then I turned it off (which was a bad idea)
May 22 06:56:58 <mrmoku|a`> did not want to start again :P
May 22 06:57:15 <mrmoku|a`> ripping out SD, stuffing it in Laptop and e2fscking it helped :)
May 22 06:58:37 <mrmoku|a`> hmm... bitbaking openvpn is building a new kernel... should I be frightened now?
May 22 07:01:42 <mrmoku|a`> Blu3, eliasp, there is only openvpn-2.0.9...
May 22 07:04:16 <eliasp> mrmoku|a`: there's openvpn-2.1_rc15 which is considered stable... the openvpn ppl don't really support 2.0.x anymore, they always recommend updating to 2.1_rcXX when having trouble
May 22 07:06:41 <mrmoku|a`> eliasp, I was talking about what we have in the OE tree... (you can find openvpn 1.5.0 too there ;)
May 22 07:06:57 <eliasp> ah, ok ;-)
May 22 07:46:43 <eliasp> does anyone know an alternative to 'iftop' which is available via opkg?
May 22 08:17:50 <hongjiujing> hi,every on e
May 22 08:17:57 <hongjiujing> anyone now use S3C6410 MCU?
May 22 08:28:55 <eliasp> does googlemaps work for anyone in tangoGPS using the -unstable image?
May 22 08:33:43 <md2k7> my tangogps currently can't even change the map folder -.-
May 22 08:39:02 <eliasp> md2k7: yes, same here... so i just created a symlink from my µSD card to /home/root/Maps ....
May 22 08:39:18 <md2k7> eliasp: same solution here :P
May 22 08:39:20 <eliasp> but as soon as i open a map-configuration dialog and close it, tangoGPS crashes...
May 22 08:39:21 <eliasp> hehe
May 22 10:35:35 <TAsn> Ainulindale, I think we should either mirror the current unstable to testing, or at least let people know that we recommend using unstable :)
May 22 10:52:24 <quatrox> btw, there is some minor issues
May 22 10:53:21 <quatrox> ...with unstable
May 22 10:53:36 <quatrox> or maybe it is just me
May 22 10:54:20 <md2k7> quatrox: like, what?
May 22 10:54:33 <quatrox> well
May 22 10:54:55 <quatrox> some stuff didn't work before opkg upgrade
May 22 10:55:07 <TAsn> but after?
May 22 10:55:10 <quatrox> and after, the settings stopped working
May 22 10:55:28 <quatrox> some vala related problem
May 22 10:56:06 <md2k7> AttributeError: 'elementary.c_elementary.Scroller' object has no attribute 'bounce_set'
May 22 10:56:10 <md2k7> in shr-settings
May 22 10:56:13 <md2k7> u're right
May 22 10:56:14 <md2k7> :-(
May 22 10:57:11 <quatrox> and...
May 22 10:57:24 <quatrox> my phone is not very responsive
May 22 10:57:45 <quatrox> running only a terminal and tangogps
May 22 10:58:32 <quatrox> but I think it is tangogps that take too much resources
May 22 10:58:39 <quatrox> and made everything hang
May 22 10:58:45 <quatrox> so I will upgrade it
May 22 11:08:56 <TAsn> shit!
May 22 11:09:07 <TAsn> all the ppl with access to the build host are on the roads.
May 22 11:09:48 <quatrox> they can ssh from their neos:D
May 22 11:10:08 <TAsn> quatrox, :)
May 22 11:10:16 <TAsn> though I don't know how to reach them.
May 22 11:10:49 <quatrox> it is strange if non of them are on IRC
May 22 11:11:16 <TAsn> quatrox, they will connect when they arrive the wifi enabled hotel
May 22 11:11:56 <quatrox> TAsn: I know... I am already there
May 22 11:12:14 <TAsn> quatrox, oh, die, I envy you ;)
May 22 11:12:16 <TAsn> :)
May 22 11:17:22 <DocMobilizer> TAsn: just ask :-)
May 22 11:17:30 <DocMobilizer> TAsn: but mrmoku|away is driving, so not much use in it right now
May 22 11:18:19 <TAsn> DocMobilizer, I need someone to rebuild shr-settings
May 22 11:18:27 <TAsn> it has been said that dos committed a fix yesterday :)
May 22 11:19:34 <DocMobilizer> TAsn: i cant help much, sorry
May 22 11:19:56 <TAsn> DocMobilizer, I know, just let them know we need them :)
May 22 11:20:01 <TAsn> DocMobilizer, btw, enjoy.!
May 22 11:48:26 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #463 (retrieve prefix codes automatically from SIM) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/463#comment:10>
May 22 12:24:53 <sylaar> Ainulindale: any news for the ms1 release?
May 22 12:28:28 <BiggMatt> salve
May 22 12:51:40 <Zorkman> for those interested: http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/node/17   DVB-H on freerunner
May 22 12:55:01 <sylaar> ..
May 22 12:55:17 <KaZeR_mobi> hello there
May 22 12:55:26 <BiggMatt> hi
May 22 12:56:55 <KaZeR_mobi> how are you doing guys?
May 22 12:57:17 <sylaar> KaZeR_mobi: waiting news for the shr ms1 release :)
May 22 12:58:19 <BiggMatt> idem
May 22 13:01:59 <KaZeR_mobi> ah, good to know.. shr is great
May 22 13:02:13 * KaZeR_mobi joins the group of people waiting. where is the queue?
May 22 13:02:33 <sylaar> KaZeR_mobi: it isn't only great, it is the best ever seen XD
May 22 13:03:05 <BiggMatt> mmh not so bad imho...
May 22 13:03:09 <BiggMatt> i prefer h1
May 22 13:04:27 <KaZeR_mobi> i haven't tested h1 for now. maybe i should. but apart from a few caveats shr works really well
May 22 13:05:11 <BiggMatt> i hate shr is slooow
May 22 13:05:24 <BiggMatt> booooooring sometimes
May 22 13:05:39 <BiggMatt> in h1 scrolling in awsome
May 22 13:05:57 <BiggMatt> (fast in discharging the battery too)
May 22 13:07:37 <BiggMatt> anyway shr si growing
May 22 13:07:54 <BiggMatt> (i've shr on flash and h1 on sd)
May 22 13:09:26 <KaZeR_mobi> yeah i've read about scrolling on h1. is it really that good? basically under shr you can forget scrolling. but otherwise i like the ui, and it's rather stable
May 22 13:10:04 <BiggMatt> maybe illume colors are ugly for me
May 22 13:10:20 <BiggMatt> infact i modified illume theme
May 22 13:10:32 <BiggMatt> and yes
May 22 13:10:43 <BiggMatt> it's (quite) stable
May 22 13:11:04 <BiggMatt> sometimes ophonekitd crashes, but rebirths without problems
May 22 13:14:37 <KaZeR_mobi> ok, i'll have to give it a shot
May 22 13:14:58 <KaZeR_mobi> btw, what news are expected? a date? 
May 22 13:15:11 <BiggMatt> in shr?
May 22 13:15:21 <sylaar> KaZeR_mobi: shr or hackable?
May 22 13:15:31 <BiggMatt> i think 14 hours till release
May 22 13:17:37 <TAsn> BiggMatt, now
May 22 13:17:39 <TAsn> there's a delay
May 22 13:17:56 <TAsn> actually not a delay
May 22 13:18:04 <TAsn> as no one ever said anything formal about a release
May 22 13:18:05 <BiggMatt> 5 open tickets
May 22 13:18:14 <TAsn> though you can give unstable a try.
May 22 13:18:27 <TAsn> BiggMatt, well yeah, but after that you have testing it
May 22 13:18:45 <BiggMatt> mh
May 22 13:18:59 <BiggMatt> i've unstable
May 22 13:19:01 <BiggMatt> now
May 22 13:30:49 <Gnutoo> hi I've "Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device" in nmap...how can I play with the alias of eth0 in ip?
May 22 14:10:50 <von_fritz> very annoying :( boot process from Sd-card hangs often at 21474544.955000 Freeing init memory:132K 
May 22 14:11:30 <von_fritz> just before init splash dont't panic :(
May 22 14:12:01 <von_fritz> this on shr-unstable
May 22 14:12:13 <TAsn> von_fritz, you mean we should make the don't panic splash show faster so you'll be able to know not to panic before this bug happens? :)
May 22 14:12:31 <von_fritz> :)
May 22 14:13:12 <von_fritz> need to remove battery :(
May 22 14:15:53 <Toaster`> with unstable in nand and using qi, how can I remove the boot/suspend/resume log messages?  as I understand it, qi ignores the nand /boot/ dir when looking for the append-GTA02 file?
May 22 14:16:55 <von_fritz> after 3 hangs, now it boots i think will remove this splash-boot
May 22 14:17:26 <von_fritz> battery indicator is wrong :(
May 22 14:37:20 <Audiomonster> no u-boot developper in here ?
May 22 14:42:39 <TAsn> Audiomonster, I don't think there are any u-boot developers in the world
May 22 14:42:51 <TAsn> I mean, I don't think u-boot is maintained anymore.
May 22 14:44:50 <dos1> von_fritz: it's kernel, not splash issue
May 22 14:44:50 <dos1> von_fritz: i had it sometimes without any splash :P
May 22 14:44:50 <dos1> but months ago...
May 22 14:44:50 <dos1> von_fritz: you just have to wait
May 22 14:44:50 <dos1> sometimes really loooooooong
May 22 14:44:51 <dos1> but it will boot :P
May 22 14:48:32 <TAsn> dos1, thanks for the gsm shr-setting fix :)
May 22 14:48:50 <TAsn> btw, I have a friend wanting to install shr-untsable on his nand, what version should he try?
May 22 14:49:10 <dos1> TAsn: latest, and then opkg update; opkg upgrade
May 22 14:49:15 <TAsn> yeah, ok.
May 22 14:49:24 <TAsn> ok
May 22 14:49:28 <von_fritz> dos1 yeah i removed shr-splash with opkg remove -force-depends but same boot-hangs :(
May 22 14:49:28 <TAsn> and whats the nosummary
May 22 14:49:31 <TAsn> image?
May 22 14:49:41 <dos1> TAsn: dunno
May 22 14:49:48 <TAsn> ok.
May 22 14:49:50 <TAsn> thanks.
May 22 14:50:01 <Toaster`> dos1: Any advice on getting rid of boot/suspend/resume messages when using qi with unstable on nand?
May 22 14:50:28 <Toaster`> I tried loglevel=0 but that's not doing anything
May 22 14:50:33 <dos1> Toaster`: recompile Qi...
May 22 14:50:41 <Toaster`> ahh, fun
May 22 14:50:48 <dos1> or
May 22 14:51:03 <dos1> maybe creating addintional partition on SD may help
May 22 14:51:09 <dos1> with only kernel and append file
May 22 14:51:26 <dos1> and with root=(something-to-indicate-booting-from-nand)
May 22 14:51:32 <dos1> but it's only idea, untested
May 22 14:51:34 <dos1> ;)
May 22 14:51:47 <Toaster`> right
May 22 14:53:32 <CIA-75> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * r32919515ad32 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_battery.py: [battery] a very little cosmetic change
May 22 14:54:02 * dos1 has to go
May 22 14:55:54 <Toaster`> picky much dos1|away ?
May 22 14:55:56 <Toaster`> ;)
May 22 14:57:24 <Audiomonster> TAsn if it is not maintained, what are you using ?
May 22 14:57:44 <Audiomonster> Openmoko is still using u-boot isn't it ?
May 22 14:57:50 <TAsn> Qi
May 22 14:58:07 <TAsn> Audiomonster, you can still use unmaintained software, it's just not fun when it crashes :)
May 22 14:58:13 <TAsn> anyhow, I use Qi.
May 22 14:58:38 <Audiomonster> is it just something Openmoko uses ?
May 22 14:58:47 <Audiomonster> u-boot is super popular
May 22 15:00:03 <Audiomonster> it says Qi boots in 1:54 sec and u-boot in 2:38 .. sounds suspicious :D
May 22 15:00:47 <Audiomonster> why u-boot would be slower, that's weird
May 22 15:02:34 <TAsn> just read the Qi page.
May 22 15:02:45 <Audiomonster> i am i am
May 22 15:02:51 <Audiomonster> on the wiki
May 22 15:02:58 <TAsn> yeah.
May 22 15:03:18 <Audiomonster> do you guys plan to support DFU ?
May 22 15:05:55 <Weiss> qi is used for booting, u-boot is used for DFU
May 22 15:06:27 <Audiomonster> you don't interract with Qi with the console as much as with u-boot ?
May 22 15:06:37 <Weiss> nope, that's the whole point
May 22 15:06:42 <Audiomonster> makes sense
May 22 15:06:52 <Weiss> qi doesn't try to (e.g.) initialise graphics, which makes things a lot easier later on
May 22 15:07:14 <Weiss> it also means resuming from suspect becomes a lot quicker
May 22 15:08:32 <Audiomonster> but i am still surprised that Qi boots way faster than u-boot
May 22 15:08:53 <TAsn> why are you?
May 22 15:09:01 <TAsn> Qi doesn't try to init graphics
May 22 15:09:05 <TAsn> leaves everything to kernel
May 22 15:09:14 <TAsn> it does less while booting
May 22 15:09:18 <Audiomonster> how long does it take to initialize some graphics ?
May 22 15:09:20 <Audiomonster> not long !
May 22 15:09:30 <Weiss> a few seconds, you'd be surprised...
May 22 15:09:47 <Audiomonster> well yes i am surprised :)
May 22 15:09:48 <TAsn> btw, a  lot of few seconds becomes a minute :)
May 22 15:09:53 <Toaster`> Audiomonster: but with embedded devices, if you don't HAVE to do something, you shouldn't.
May 22 15:09:58 <Audiomonster> TAsn haha that's true ;)
May 22 15:10:14 <Audiomonster> that i agree
May 22 15:10:14 <TAsn> Audiomonster, :)
May 22 15:10:37 <Weiss> (at the moment, there's an extra level of faff later on when X goes through pretty much the same video initialisation)
May 22 15:10:41 <Weiss> (as well)
May 22 15:10:49 <Audiomonster> i am always surprised that a small embedded devices takes 2 sec to boot linux
May 22 15:11:09 <Audiomonster> i understand mounting NAND Flash (JFFS2 for ex) can take the bulk of the time, but still
May 22 15:11:19 <Audiomonster> to me it should be less than a sec
May 22 15:11:39 <Weiss> yeah, everything seems slower than it should be
May 22 15:11:55 * Weiss remembers RISC OS, which booted in about 3 seconds flat on ARM2 (~12MHz)
May 22 15:12:12 <Audiomonster> i guess one must have deep knowledge of the whole system in order to optimize booting time
May 22 15:12:41 <Weiss> you've seen that article explaining how they got a eeePC to boot in 5 seconds?
May 22 15:12:49 <Audiomonster> ah no
May 22 15:13:17 <Weiss> it advocates a complete change of thinking - setting a time budget for each stage and sticking to it
May 22 15:14:15 <Audiomonster> 5 sec sounds pretty good
May 22 15:14:33 <Audiomonster> actually 1:54 with Qi is great
May 22 15:14:59 <Audiomonster> i think i can wait that long without being annoyed ;)
May 22 15:15:07 <Weiss> hehe, yeah
May 22 15:15:16 <Weiss> look up that article - it's very interesting
May 22 15:16:23 <Audiomonster> "We can boot the kernel probably in half a second but we got it down to a second and we stopped,"
May 22 15:17:16 <Audiomonster> here you go : "We hate splash screens. By the time you see it, we want to be done."
May 22 15:18:23 <Audiomonster> "The development time that distributions spend on splash screens is much more than the Intel team spent on booting fast enough not to need one." .. that's interesting :)
May 22 15:18:55 <Weiss> hehe
May 22 15:20:28 <Audiomonster> anyways, i have a NXP LPC313x ARM9 and some nand flash, it supports linux. I was thinking of borrowing some stuff from Openmoko
May 22 15:20:37 <Audiomonster> especially DFU related
May 22 15:23:19 <TAsn> dos1|away, #463 watch my response.
May 22 15:27:36 <TAsn> and we gotta fix the buildhost
May 22 15:27:37 <TAsn> ffs
May 22 15:27:38 <TAsn> .
May 22 15:29:21 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #423 (unable to specify the tune for sid ringtones using the gui) updated <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/423#comment:3>
May 22 15:44:24 <Toaster`> Any Audio dbus guys out there?
May 22 16:25:18 <bumbl> everyone on their way to fsoshrducon as it seems
May 22 16:25:35 * Toaster` is jealous of those attending
May 22 16:26:05 <bumbl> hehe
May 22 16:26:16 * bumbl wants his neo back
May 22 16:26:55 <Toaster`> you send it off for buzz-fix?
May 22 16:27:02 <bumbl> yes
May 22 16:27:09 <bumbl> but delivery seems to be slow
May 22 16:27:45 <bumbl> (i sent it today last week and it is still on its way to destination according to the package tracker)
May 22 16:28:00 <Toaster`> I'm still working up the effort to fix mine.  Either myself (doubtful) or have one of the techs at work do it up.
May 22 16:28:11 <Toaster`> How far was it traveling/
May 22 16:28:22 <bumbl> Toaster`: not far
May 22 16:28:34 <bumbl> with the car ~3h
May 22 16:29:42 <Toaster`> that's a sunday drive.  I'm surprised you did't go yourself :)
May 22 16:29:47 <bumbl> Toaster`: if i had the chance to get the fix somewhere near hear i would have done that
May 22 16:31:26 <bumbl> Toaster`: well what do i do there - waste of time and ~ equal costs
May 22 16:31:34 <Toaster`> I suppose
May 22 16:32:02 <bumbl> + it is not possible to take the neo back immediatly (handheld-linux offer)
May 22 16:34:49 <Ainulindale> (I heard that alphaone sucks balls)
May 22 16:34:59 <bumbl> ;)
May 22 16:35:33 <Ainulindale> ANyway germany is cold
May 22 16:35:33 <Blu3> i could use a good dose of that
May 22 16:36:05 * Toaster` looks at Ainulindale oddly, realizes cold is relative
May 22 16:36:31 <bumbl> !wheather Berlin
May 22 16:36:40 <bumbl> !weather Berlin
May 22 16:36:47 <bumbl> bah bad bzzbot 
May 22 16:37:13 <bumbl> hmm well it is a bit colder than here
May 22 16:37:43 <Toaster`> I was in Ottawa last weekend... 7'C on Saturday
May 22 16:38:01 <bumbl> nice
May 22 16:38:02 <Ainulindale> Meh
May 22 16:40:03 <Toaster`> As I said, it's relative.  Where I am also gets a fair bit colder then Paris in the winter, so my definition of cold is shifted.
May 22 16:40:09 <bumbl> Ainulindale: did you go by car or did you fly?
May 22 16:42:51 <Ainulindale> By car
May 22 16:43:43 <bumbl> ow
May 22 16:44:04 <Blu3> has anyone done _anything_ with MMS and OM?  i can't figure out how to fetch the MMS from the MMSC. i've reassembled the URL in the sms data block, but trying to load it over the gprs ppp connection just gives timeouts.
May 22 16:45:04 <alphaone> Ainulindale: pah
May 22 16:45:09 <bumbl> Blu3: afaik noone has done anything yet because other things were more important and they don't have proper dumps 
May 22 16:45:30 <Blu3> dang it.  i need clue
May 22 16:45:43 <Ainulindale> alphaone: you're the pah
May 22 16:45:52 <Ainulindale> and you're too far anyway you can't kick me
May 22 16:46:03 <alphaone> I can run
May 22 16:46:26 <Ainulindale> Well I'm too lazy to run
May 22 16:46:34 <Ainulindale> I just lure you with a non buzz fixed GTA02
May 22 16:46:37 <Ainulindale> +'ll
May 22 16:51:09 <alphaone> haha
May 22 16:51:53 <Deubeuliou> hi
May 22 16:52:51 <Ainulindale> Deubeuliou: could you please move? You're blocking all the sunlight
May 22 16:54:36 <Ainulindale> Someone switched off the light!
May 22 16:55:13 <Deubeuliou> even the guys who moved don't have any sunshine anymore
May 22 16:59:00 <Deubeuliou> hey; light came back
May 22 17:01:52 <bumbl> ?
May 22 17:06:00 <Ainulindale> bumbl: ze germans switched the sun off
May 22 17:08:17 <thrashold> http://pastebin.com/m6a37b347 Anyone experienced this?
May 22 17:08:25 <thrashold> And knows how to fix it?
May 22 17:08:53 <bumbl> Ainulindale: omg
May 22 17:09:00 <bumbl> they did it again
May 22 17:17:12 <khiraly1> do somebody knows a bit about git?
May 22 17:17:59 <khiraly1> I committed two things, but didnt push to the server (thanks God), and I just figured out, my first commit included all my autogenerated files (like 30 files)
May 22 17:18:22 <khiraly1> how can I remove this commits? erase it absolutely without any traces on the server?
May 22 17:28:39 <bumbl> if you haven't pushed your commit is only locally
May 22 17:28:41 <bumbl> revert it
May 22 17:40:38 <khiraly1> how can I revert?
May 22 17:40:54 <khiraly1> I didnt pushed it to the server (git.paroli-projects.org)
May 22 17:41:28 <alphaone> git co --hard HEAD^
May 22 17:41:43 <alphaone> That's destructive, though
May 22 17:42:50 <khiraly1> dont care. I commited accidentally bunch of *.pyo files
May 22 17:43:43 <khiraly1> ehh. I rebased my git accidentally
May 22 17:43:53 <wpwrak> khiraly1: you need sleep ;-)
May 22 17:44:14 <khiraly1> my git adventures just began like an hour ago
May 22 17:44:39 <khiraly1> I began testing some git guis, because gitk and git-gui sucks hard
May 22 17:44:56 <khiraly1> and I successfully committed all my local generated files using giggle
May 22 17:45:13 <wpwrak> khiraly1: okay, then you need ... hmm, what's the national strong liquor in hungary ?:)
May 22 17:45:36 <khiraly1> doh
May 22 17:45:37 <khiraly1> ;)
May 22 17:45:43 <khiraly1> palinka
May 22 17:45:46 <khiraly1> for example
May 22 17:46:00 <wpwrak> if some program doing this sort of dangerous things is called "giggle", it may refer to murphy's reaction when watching your futile attempts :)
May 22 17:46:42 <wpwrak> double-distilled brandy sounds adequate, yes :)
May 22 17:47:04 <khiraly1> ;)
May 22 17:47:37 <khiraly1> remotes/origin/master -> cosmetics2 -> master
May 22 17:47:47 <khiraly1> I rebased on remotes/origin/master
May 22 17:47:56 <wpwrak> i'd actually recommend to make your peace with the command-line version. it's probably easier that way to figure out the underlying workflow.
May 22 17:47:57 <khiraly1> how can I delete cosmetics2 and master commit?
May 22 17:48:17 <khiraly1> wpwrak: Im already on command line and in git book
May 22 17:48:39 <wpwrak> kewl :)
May 22 17:48:48 <khiraly1> so I already rebased on remotes/origin/master when I hit escape in mceditor (interactive rebase)
May 22 17:49:03 <khiraly1> it was accidentally too
May 22 17:49:28 <khiraly1> (not that I hitted the escape button, but it actually finished the rebase)
May 22 17:52:29 <khiraly1> git co
May 22 17:52:36 <khiraly1> not a git-command
May 22 17:54:52 <Toaster`> khiraly1: `git checkout <file>` is
May 22 17:55:20 <Toaster`> it over writes the local target with the remote
May 22 17:56:25 <bumbl> khiraly1: are you new to vcs in general or only to git?
May 22 17:56:34 <khiraly1> yepp just I committed *new* files
May 22 17:56:43 <khiraly1> so cant overwrite it
May 22 17:57:07 <khiraly1> bumbl: dunno. I used cvs only from eclipse. Was nice and easy
May 22 17:57:09 <khiraly1> ;)
May 22 17:57:18 <bumbl> http://tom.preston-werner.com/2009/05/19/the-git-parable.html <- this helps with understanding the git way of doing things
May 22 17:57:25 <khiraly1> git revert do an additional commit with revert message
May 22 17:57:50 <khiraly1> so I have 4 new commit on top of what is on the server
May 22 17:58:14 <khiraly1> If I do a real commit and push it, it will upload the whole crap
May 22 18:00:51 <Ainulindale> Live sex action on FSOSHRUDCON Deubeuliou feed soon
May 22 18:01:01 <Ainulindale> (Soon available in DVD)
May 22 18:01:13 <Ainulindale> (Starring Mickey L.)
May 22 18:01:31 <Ainulindale> a.k.a. "Hardwood buzzing mickeynator"
May 22 18:01:51 <Toaster`> Ainulindale: Considering the assumed demographics of those attending, I'll have to pass :)
May 22 18:02:58 <Ainulindale> Heh :-)
May 22 18:08:22 <khiraly1> ok, solved it
May 22 18:08:36 <khiraly1> how hard is this git. No simple undo...
May 22 18:08:44 <khiraly1> its like everything written in stone
May 22 18:09:27 <bumbl> khiraly1: well therefore there is the concept of staging
May 22 18:09:41 <bumbl> + usually a development/feature and a master branch
May 22 18:09:43 <wpwrak> khiraly1: rm -rf .git and start over ;-)
May 22 18:09:52 <khiraly1> wpwrak: nice idea+!
May 22 18:10:32 <khiraly1> ok, I need to save .git/config first
May 22 18:10:35 <khiraly1> but yeah
May 22 18:11:00 <khiraly1> after rebasing and git pull, the graphs looks like a knot
May 22 18:13:22 <khiraly1> hmm
May 22 18:13:37 <khiraly1> what I need to save exactly from .git dir, if I want to rm -rf it?
May 22 18:13:40 <khiraly1> the config dir
May 22 18:13:56 <khiraly1> I'll make a backup first
May 22 19:04:14 <Ainulindale> mickey|FSOSHRUDC: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/5395369.txt
May 22 19:04:35 <Ainulindale> Still the same thing.
May 22 19:27:49 <Ainulindale> Help me, there's a russian guy right across me
May 22 19:28:02 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, you're lost then ;)
May 22 19:29:03 <TAsn> we gotta fix vala-native ;(
May 22 19:29:09 <TAsn> we desperately need an image.
May 22 19:29:11 <Ainulindale> DOne
May 22 19:29:16 <Ainulindale> I'm building stuff now
May 22 19:29:45 <PaulFertser> TAsn: we can build it ad-hoc
May 22 19:29:55 <TAsn> really?!
May 22 19:29:57 <TAsn> wow :)
May 22 19:30:24 <PaulFertser> TAsn: i managed to build it that way, without upgrading libtool.
May 22 19:30:27 <Ainulindale> PaulFertser: You're the haddoc!
May 22 19:30:30 <PaulFertser> TAsn: so it's possible.
May 22 19:30:36 <TAsn> PaulFertser, you rock.
May 22 19:30:47 <TAsn> finally, we desperately need a new image
May 22 19:30:54 <TAsn> and also a unstable -> testing migration
May 22 19:31:03 <TAsn> an*
May 22 19:32:16 <PaulFertser> TAsn: Ainulindale's just fixed it to build by patching Makefile.
May 22 19:32:17 <SHR-WugBranler`> tracfeed: Ticket #423 (unable to specify the tune for sid ringtones using the gui) closed <http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/423#comment:4>
May 22 19:32:44 <TAsn> :)
May 22 19:32:53 <TAsn> so does this mean we'll have an image when?
May 22 19:33:18 <Ainulindale> when it's done
May 22 19:33:20 <TAsn> dos1, saw my response on #463 ?
May 22 19:33:21 <Ainulindale> stefan is speaking
May 22 19:33:25 <Ainulindale> stefan is nice & fuzzy
May 22 19:33:26 <TAsn> Ainulindale, eta?
May 22 19:33:28 <TAsn> :)
May 22 19:33:29 <dos1> TAsn: yep, even before
May 22 19:33:29 <Ainulindale> TAsn: None
May 22 19:33:33 <TAsn> dos1, cool.
May 22 19:33:42 <mrmoku> TAsn, he just started... so
May 22 19:33:46 <TAsn> Ainulindale, None as now or none as fuck you tasn? ;)
May 22 19:33:53 <Toaster`> dos1: Thanks for closing but #423
May 22 19:33:55 <Ainulindale> TAsn: none as wait god dammit
May 22 19:33:59 <TAsn> mrmoku, so eta ~123 days? :)
May 22 19:34:02 <Ainulindale> I'm listening! :-p
May 22 19:34:05 <TAsn> Ainulindale, good enough.
May 22 19:34:15 <Ainulindale> TAsn: I hope by tonight anyway
May 22 19:34:20 <Toaster`> ~/but/bug/
May 22 19:34:21 <Ainulindale> It depends on my beer supply
May 22 19:34:28 <TAsn> Ainulindale, cool, I desperately need a new flash
May 22 19:34:29 <Ainulindale> Or mrmoku's
May 22 19:34:34 <TAsn> and a friend also needs one.
May 22 19:34:51 <TAsn> I also want to see what the defalut locale will be.. :)
May 22 19:34:58 <Ainulindale> Hopefully english
May 22 19:35:22 <TAsn> english.utf-8?
May 22 19:35:23 <TAsn> ;)
May 22 19:35:26 <Ainulindale> yep
May 22 19:35:37 <TAsn> lets just hope.
May 22 19:35:45 <Ainulindale> NOTE: Running task 4328 of 5712 
May 22 19:35:58 <Ainulindale> And I didn't do a screen just to keep mrmoku from meddling with it :-p
May 22 19:37:50 <TAsn> anyhow, what about unstable -> testing migration?
May 22 19:37:56 <TAsn> let's give it a couple of day and then gogo ?
May 22 19:38:02 <Ainulindale> we'll talk about it this week-end TAsn 
May 22 19:38:08 <Ainulindale> There may be a lot of changes
May 22 19:38:10 <Ainulindale> Don't worry
May 22 19:38:12 <TAsn> cool.
May 22 19:38:16 <TAsn> I'm not worrying
May 22 19:38:20 <TAsn> how's the resort?
May 22 19:38:20 <Ainulindale> anyway you'll see my presentation
May 22 19:38:35 <TAsn> Ainulindale, streaming live?
May 22 19:38:57 <Ainulindale> yep
May 22 19:42:31 <bumbl> Ainulindale: nice of you ;p (concerning screen)
May 22 19:44:00 <Gnutoo> hi, I've the "Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device" in nmap in SHR ...I've found post of people with the same problem but no resolution...is there an ip command to solve the problem?
May 22 19:44:55 <dos1> Ainulindale: will it be stored somewhere?
May 22 19:45:00 <dos1> (presentation)
May 22 19:50:35 <spaetz> storing presentation would be nice
May 22 19:52:30 <TAsn> spaetz, you are not there either?
May 22 19:52:42 <spaetz> nope
May 22 19:52:56 <TAsn> ;\
May 22 19:53:02 <spaetz> sitting at home wtching my wife vomit (pregnant)
May 22 19:53:12 <spaetz> would be nicer to hack on shr AND DRINK BEER :)
May 22 19:53:27 <spaetz> oops, unintentional caps lock, I swear :)
May 22 19:54:07 <TAsn> :)
May 22 19:54:13 <TAsn> hehe, first baby?
May 22 19:54:30 <spaetz> second, first one is going to be a year next month
May 22 19:54:44 <TAsn> cool :)
May 22 19:55:01 <spaetz> yep :) very exhausting, but very rewarding too
May 22 19:55:56 <TAsn> the big question remains, when will he start contributing? :)
May 22 19:56:10 <TAsn> (to SHR of course...)
May 22 19:56:48 <spaetz> so far, he loves hanging up my phone calls and is very attraceted to bright touch screens :)
May 22 19:56:54 <spaetz> so we are getting there...
May 22 19:56:57 <bumbl> TAsn: well he should be old enough to contribute to the gta03
May 22 19:57:04 <spaetz> bumbl: hehe
May 22 19:57:13 <TAsn> bumbl, nah, I think he'll have to wait for that.
May 22 19:57:27 <TAsn> spaetz, keep him away from your phone!
May 22 19:57:30 <bumbl> ;)
May 22 19:57:32 <bumbl> yeah
May 22 19:57:34 <TAsn> I already damaged my touch screen :)
May 22 19:57:37 <bumbl> high SAR 
May 22 19:57:51 <bumbl> is not healthy for little children
May 22 19:57:53 <TAsn> SAR? (is that the radiation thingy?)
May 22 19:58:11 <spaetz> really? what did you do to the screen?
May 22 19:58:11 <bumbl> specific absorbtion rate
May 22 19:58:12 <TAsn> bumbl, I actually meant it's not healthy for the phone.
May 22 19:58:21 <bumbl> TAsn: i know
May 22 19:58:35 <khiraly11> wpwrak: thanks for the rm -rf .git thing. It did the trick ;)
May 22 19:58:38 <TAsn> spaetz, according to DocScrutinizer I damaged a layer in the touch screen
May 22 19:58:50 <TAsn> which caused an offset on my screen
May 22 19:58:53 <spaetz> SAR= Son Attack Ratio
May 22 19:58:57 <spaetz> Radius
May 22 19:59:05 <bumbl> hahaha
May 22 19:59:07 <spaetz> getting bigger and bigger now that he moves about :)
May 22 19:59:13 <TAsn> so I can't reach s section of my screen :(
May 22 19:59:18 <spaetz> TAsn: :(
May 22 19:59:23 <TAsn> aye. ;{
May 22 19:59:27 <khiraly11> and did you damaged the screen?
May 22 19:59:32 <TAsn> how?
May 22 19:59:36 <khiraly11> yepp
May 22 19:59:38 <khiraly11> how
May 22 19:59:38 <TAsn> had the FR in my pocket
May 22 19:59:42 <TAsn> screen facing outside
May 22 19:59:44 <spaetz> are you attaching a USB mouse to the USB now? ;)
May 22 19:59:52 <spaetz> TAsn: damn, I do that all the time
May 22 19:59:56 <TAsn> and bumped into a table corner
May 22 20:00:02 <spaetz> outch
May 22 20:00:02 <TAsn> pretty hard.
May 22 20:00:08 <TAsn> spaetz, nah, I can handle it.
May 22 20:00:11 <TAsn> spaetz, yeah ;(
May 22 20:00:15 <TAsn> too bad.
May 22 20:00:20 <TAsn> at least it's still usable
May 22 20:00:37 <TAsn> and DocScrutinizer said it's fixable using a proper driver (that someone should probably write)
May 22 20:00:43 <wpwrak> khiraly11: you're welcome :-) i'd be ashamed to admit how often i had to resort to it ...
May 22 20:02:26 <khiraly11> yepp, now I do a backup before any git fiddling
May 22 20:06:50 <wurp2|working> TAsn: Yeah, I never put mine in face out
May 22 20:07:08 <dos1> 49 tickets :)
May 22 20:07:14 <wurp2|working> However... I have a ClipHanger on the back of mine, and I often hook it on a beltloop
May 22 20:07:45 <wurp2|working> I'm shocked that my neo still works after all the times the back has popped off and spilled the guts to a meter fall to the concrete
May 22 20:10:35 <Ainulindale> wurp2|working: You suck!
May 22 20:10:38 <Ainulindale> You're not there!
May 22 20:10:54 <Ainulindale> dos1: of course it will
May 22 20:10:58 <Ainulindale> by the way just to make things clear
May 22 20:11:07 <Ainulindale> I called shr-settings "3rd party software"
May 22 20:11:13 <Ainulindale> Not in a bad meaning
May 22 20:11:33 <khiraly11> doh
May 22 20:11:35 <TAsn> wurp2|working, :)
May 22 20:11:35 <khiraly11> I hate git
May 22 20:11:38 <Ainulindale> It was built at first as 3rd Party software and currently not part of the big ophonekitd plan to take over the world :-)
May 22 20:11:46 <Ainulindale> So please don't be mad if I call it that way :-)
May 22 20:11:47 <khiraly11> I successfully erased my work
May 22 20:11:56 <TAsn> Ainulindale, and it's in python
May 22 20:11:57 <TAsn> ...
May 22 20:12:20 <TAsn> wurp2|working, that's not a direct hit on the screen though.
May 22 20:12:49 <spaetz> It actually is 3rd party software, even if it's pretty central to SHR, currently :)
May 22 20:14:46 <Ainulindale> Well just want to make sure it's not seen as something bad :-)
May 22 20:14:51 <Ainulindale> I did the same about notifier & pyphonelog
May 22 20:16:14 * dos1 thinks it's bad!!!!!11one
May 22 20:16:34 * dos1 cries
May 22 20:16:36 <dos1> :S
May 22 20:16:51 <TAsn> Ainulindale, well notifier is as 3rd party as it gets
May 22 20:17:03 <TAsn> shr-settings is close to not being 3rd party
May 22 20:17:09 <TAsn> and pyphonelog is in the middle
May 22 20:17:13 <dos1> ;)
May 22 20:17:27 <dos1> TAsn: i didn't like you, but now i like!
May 22 20:17:27 <dos1> :DDD
May 22 20:17:39 <TAsn> dos1, hehe, that's not a very nice thing to say.
May 22 20:17:40 <dos1> (just joking in everything of course ;) )
May 22 20:17:41 <TAsn> :)
May 22 20:17:59 <TAsn> dos1, but python = 3rd party
May 22 20:18:07 <TAsn> that's the way it goes in SHR
May 22 20:18:16 <TAsn> or at least that's the way I see it.
May 22 20:18:16 <Ainulindale> Not really
May 22 20:18:21 <Ainulindale> At least that's not the way I intend it to be
May 22 20:18:29 <TAsn> Ainulindale, that's the impression I got from you
May 22 20:18:35 <Ainulindale> I don't think that way
May 22 20:18:43 <Ainulindale> To me it's SHR stuff when it's managed by the SHR team
May 22 20:18:47 <TAsn> though anyway, until the moko will start running they way it should be
May 22 20:18:51 <Ainulindale> And now that dos1 is part of the core team
May 22 20:18:56 <dos1> TAsn: i think rather "not ophonekitd = 3rd party"
May 22 20:19:02 <TAsn> dos1, I know.
May 22 20:19:03 <Ainulindale> it's as close as ophonekitd is to be inner software
May 22 20:19:10 <Ainulindale> I don't care about toolkits or language
May 22 20:19:14 <Ainulindale> Of course I have preferences
May 22 20:19:19 <Ainulindale> But it's not as it matters in the end
May 22 20:19:30 <Ainulindale> So once again
May 22 20:19:41 <Ainulindale> When it's managed by the community, for the community, and by a SHR team member
May 22 20:19:44 <Ainulindale> It's SHR to me
May 22 20:19:52 <Ainulindale> But this implies management
May 22 20:20:00 <Ainulindale> Is it clearer for you?
May 22 20:20:10 <TAsn> Ainulindale, it was always clear to me.
May 22 20:20:16 <Ainulindale> Nah you were wrong
May 22 20:20:20 <TAsn> I'm always wrong
May 22 20:20:22 <dos1> TAsn: well, python isn't that bad. shr-settings was slow due to bad code almost everywhere (timers hell, dbus non-async)
May 22 20:20:30 <Ainulindale> TAsn: I know that
May 22 20:20:34 <Ainulindale> That's why I know you suck
May 22 20:20:37 <dos1> TAsn: but loading time is BAD
May 22 20:20:39 <TAsn> dos1, pyphonelog has a lot of bad code as well.
May 22 20:20:46 <TAsn> dos1, yeah. ;\
May 22 20:20:49 <dos1> of python interpreter
May 22 20:20:51 <Ainulindale> well guys
May 22 20:20:51 <Ainulindale> ophonekitd is bad too
May 22 20:20:53 <TAsn> I know.
May 22 20:20:53 <Ainulindale> it's a mess
May 22 20:20:57 <TAsn> Ainulindale, I know. :)
May 22 20:21:00 <dos1> hehe
May 22 20:21:03 <Ainulindale> any piece of software could be considered as bad
May 22 20:21:05 <TAsn> and it doesn't do any error handling
May 22 20:21:12 <TAsn> ...
May 22 20:21:13 <Ainulindale> TAsn: yes it does in some parts :-)
May 22 20:21:19 <TAsn> some MINOR parts.
May 22 20:21:29 <dos1> but only for some time
May 22 20:21:36 <TAsn> dos1, ++ :)
May 22 20:21:38 <Ainulindale> But anyway
May 22 20:21:43 <TAsn> anyhow, we'll rewrite efl2
May 22 20:21:43 <Ainulindale> I'm language agnostic
May 22 20:21:53 <Ainulindale> What I want is functionnalities
May 22 20:21:55 * dos1 remembers, when every g_warn was causing crash of ophonekitd :P
May 22 20:21:55 <Ainulindale> User hapiness
May 22 20:21:59 <Ainulindale> And performances at last
May 22 20:22:02 <TAsn> I mean, efl2 is the rewrite
May 22 20:22:02 <dos1> s/crash/exit/
May 22 20:22:13 <Ainulindale> By the way we'll test stream soon
May 22 20:22:18 <Ainulindale> If you want to see our ugly faces
May 22 20:22:31 <TAsn> and let's hope it'll be good enough.
May 22 20:22:47 <TAsn> Ainulindale, nah, I don't like ugly faces.
May 22 20:22:58 <TAsn> I think I'll leave before tempting to watch that horror. ;)
May 22 20:23:04 <TAsn> gn. ;)
May 22 20:23:22 <TAsn> anyhow Ainulindale dos1 suggested moving to x11-16
May 22 20:23:25 <TAsn> we should also consider that.
May 22 20:23:26 <TAsn> ...
May 22 20:23:53 <TAsn> doesn't look as nice as x11
May 22 20:23:56 <dos1> TAsn: so... we should ask ML! ;D
May 22 20:23:58 <TAsn> (efl engine)
May 22 20:24:06 <dos1> Ainulindale: i'm learning :D
May 22 20:24:06 <TAsn> but seems better, a lot better.
May 22 20:24:23 <TAsn> dos1, we should ask in the ML only after creating a new efl theme
May 22 20:24:36 <TAsn> because the current one, with the gradients
May 22 20:24:36 <dos1> well
May 22 20:24:38 <TAsn> looks awful
May 22 20:24:40 <TAsn> with 16
May 22 20:24:41 <Ainulindale> TAsn: well yeah ask ML about x11-16 but I disagree about a lack of quality
May 22 20:24:43 <mrmoku>  it succss
May 22 20:24:46 <mrmoku> sucks even
May 22 20:24:51 <TAsn> mrmoku, ?
May 22 20:24:51 <Ainulindale> Plus mrmoku sucks too
May 22 20:24:55 <dos1> not gradiends
May 22 20:25:04 * mrmoku and x11-16 suck ;)
May 22 20:25:05 <dos1> just smooth-scalling is disabled
May 22 20:25:17 <TAsn> huh?
May 22 20:25:22 <TAsn> look at the gradient buttons
May 22 20:25:29 <TAsn> they look awful because the lack of colors.
May 22 20:25:44 <TAsn> anyhow, I'm really off.
May 22 20:25:46 <TAsn> ciao.
May 22 20:26:05 <khiraly11> is it possible to use this x11-16 engine, that some content in the window would be 32bit?
May 22 20:26:07 <dos1> TAsn: i think most of that gradients are rendered by smooth-scalling :P
May 22 20:26:10 <wurp2|working> Ainulindale: I'm sort of here!
May 22 20:26:20 <khiraly11> i mean an image viewer can really suck in x11-16 engine
May 22 20:26:37 <TAsn> khiraly11, kinda
May 22 20:26:46 <TAsn> you can use specific applications
May 22 20:26:53 <TAsn> with a specific engine iirc
May 22 20:27:00 <TAsn> (dos1 taught me that)
May 22 20:27:11 <khiraly11> I mean can I use define some elements in an application to be 32bit forced?
May 22 20:27:20 <TAsn> khiraly11, I don't think you can do that
May 22 20:27:23 <dos1> khiraly11: no. but whole application - yes
May 22 20:27:29 <TAsn> but you can for instance run the image viewer as 32
May 22 20:27:31 <dos1> you can have everything in x11-16
May 22 20:27:39 <dos1> but image viewer in x11 (32)
May 22 20:28:01 <khiraly11> lets imagine an image viewer where the interface buttons are black and white (like paroli), but it can show photos, because it is an image browser after all
May 22 20:28:19 <TAsn> anyhow, ciao.
May 22 20:28:26 <wurp2|working> Ainulindale: Oh, by "here" you mean F9N.  That would be a bit expensive for me.
May 22 20:28:52 <wurp2|working> TAsn: g'night
May 22 20:29:26 <khiraly11> dos1: I understand that. What I dont know is, can *inside* an application be two engines? like for buttons x11-16 and for sensitive contents x11 (image in a imageviewer)
May 22 20:29:38 <dos1> khiraly11: i said. no
May 22 20:29:46 <khiraly11> uhum
May 22 20:29:58 <khiraly11> pretty limited then
May 22 20:30:22 <dos1> khiraly11: but why can't you just run whole image viewer in x11?
May 22 20:31:26 <khiraly11> and what about a chat application? Where in a bubble would be a photo of the other party. but its relatively small in size compared to the whole application
May 22 20:31:40 <dos1> khiraly11: but at other side
May 22 20:31:45 <Ainulindale> wurp2|working: I don't care about expensive
May 22 20:31:51 <Ainulindale> You're not here hence you suck
May 22 20:31:56 <dos1> photos, when not resized, would look perfectly on x11-16
May 22 20:32:17 <dos1> khiraly11: neo screen displays only 16 bit of colors
May 22 20:32:36 <dos1> khiraly11: x11-16 with smooth-scalling would look exactly the same as x11
May 22 20:33:07 <khiraly11> (22.32.16) dos1: khiraly11: neo screen displays only 16 bit of colors <-- didnt know it
May 22 20:33:23 <dos1> khiraly11: (that's what raster said)
May 22 20:33:31 <khiraly11> I thought it is 24bit
May 22 20:36:37 <bumbl> Ainulindale: throw the test stream into the chan
May 22 20:37:04 <bumbl> too bad i won't be able to watch the interesting parts tomorrow
May 22 20:56:26 <wurp2|working> Ainulindale: I can't help sucking
May 22 20:56:37 <wurp2|working> Suck down one of those great Belgian beers for me
May 22 20:56:59 <Ainulindale> kdd~.
May 22 20:57:11 <Ainulindale> Hmp.
May 22 20:57:21 <Ainulindale> wurp2|working: we didn't buy any
May 22 20:57:23 <Ainulindale> Didn't have time to
May 22 21:00:00 <wurp2|working> Wow, then why would I even want to come?
May 22 21:00:06 <wurp2|working> ;-)
May 22 21:08:54 <johnsu01> hm, what's the purpose of "apn = self.entryAPN.entry_get().replace("<br>","")" -- where would a <br> come from?
May 22 21:11:26 <dos1|neo> johnsu01: end of line
May 22 21:11:42 <dos1|neo> johnsu01: from elementary
May 22 21:12:44 <johnsu01> dos1|neo: hm, okay, I'm looking into an issue with shr_gprs.py, just learning about elementary
May 22 21:12:48 <johnsu01> rstrip doesn't pick that up?
May 22 21:13:19 <dos1|neo> johnsu01: dunno, check
May 22 21:13:28 <dos1|neo> it was just quick fix
May 22 21:13:38 <johnsu01> okay
May 22 21:13:59 <johnsu01> (the issue is that it's not saving my settings even after successful connection and I suspect it has to do with username and password needing to be blank)
May 22 21:14:28 <johnsu01> but it looks like the pickle file was never created at all so maybe the problem is actually in detecting the connection
May 22 21:15:32 <Gnutoo> johnsu01, hi, now that qemu-0.10.3 is released emacs cross-compile fine for openembedded based distributions...I sent my patches(I'm waiting for the comments)
May 22 21:15:35 <spaetz> rstrip doesn't strip a literal 'br' out of the string
May 22 21:16:12 <spaetz> which is, I think what elementary is sending in empty entry fields
May 22 21:16:45 <johnsu01> Gnutoo: cool, good to hear :)
May 22 21:17:34 <Gnutoo> maybe I'll ping them as they seem to take their time to review it...(I don't want to commit something like this without review)
May 22 21:18:16 <johnsu01> Gnutoo: what are the patches to?
May 22 21:18:22 <khiraly11> hmm
May 22 21:18:34 <Gnutoo> johnsu01, they are not patch for emacs but for the recipe
May 22 21:23:36 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8604ae19da59 10/fsodeviced/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
May 22 21:23:36 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: fsodevice: alsa_audio: play a sound
May 22 21:23:36 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: NOTE: We now require libcanberra
May 22 21:25:06 <CIA-75> SHR: 03frazier.cameron 07shr-settings * r6f390149f688 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_device_timeouts.py: [Timeouts] Removed excessive calling to dbus, now uses seed values on timeout box init
May 22 21:25:17 <CIA-75> SHR: 03frazier.cameron 07shr-settings * r0d024f231c98 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_device_timeouts.py: [Timeouts] Minor: Removed surperfulous code
May 22 21:26:31 <Ainulindale> Well it seems that the french guys utterly suck to stream video
May 22 21:27:48 <md2k7> Ainulindale: where is the stream btw?
May 22 21:28:14 <md2k7> is it running at all?
May 22 21:28:18 <PaulFertser> md2k7: not yet
May 22 21:41:02 <Ainulindale> TAsn: solved all the problems thanks to the help of several people
May 22 21:41:08 <Ainulindale> Now building the image
May 22 21:42:26 <PaulFertser> md2k7: if we only knew how to stream properly...
May 22 21:43:24 <Ainulindale> If there's a vlc expert out there
May 22 21:43:35 <Ainulindale> Send your advices to ptitjes, PaulFertser & Deubeuliou 
May 22 21:48:28 <dos1|neo> ~google how to stream video with vlc
May 22 21:48:40 <wurp2|working> Ainulindale: What are you doing in here while you're at F9N?
May 22 21:48:51 <dos1|neo> ~google streaming video with vlc
May 22 21:48:55 <dos1|neo> ;D
May 22 21:49:13 <Ainulindale> ptitjes: http://www.assemblytv.net/2005/about/stream-relay-howto/en
May 22 21:49:29 <Ainulindale> wurp2|working: Working
May 22 21:49:55 * dos1|neo is going to sleeeeeeep
May 22 21:50:05 <dos1|neo> good night
May 22 21:50:15 <dos1|neo> and good con ;)
May 22 21:53:27 <TAsn> Ainulindale, COOL!! :)
May 22 21:53:36 <TAsn> Ainulindale, I'm hungry for an image.
May 22 21:55:26 <Deubeuliou> I'm on it but ...
May 22 21:55:42 <Deubeuliou> we're behindd a nat;, it complicates things a bit more
May 22 21:56:03 <Deubeuliou> I ran MY tests behind a nat I had full control over
May 22 21:56:22 * spaetz is off for bed too
May 22 21:58:48 <wurp2|working> Ainulindale: You work too much
May 22 22:02:10 <TAsn> hm..
May 22 22:02:29 <TAsn> how sholud I call the part I describe the visual formats of the coding conventions?
May 22 22:02:45 <TAsn> i mean, indentation 
May 22 22:02:53 <TAsn> oh there's only indentation
May 22 22:02:58 <TAsn> bah, ok, nvm.
May 22 22:14:01 <mrmoku> TAsn, call it indentation then :P
May 22 22:15:07 <TAsn> I have.
May 22 22:15:07 <TAsn> ;)
May 22 22:46:46 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r93f992d89208 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.xml: add no container flag
May 22 22:49:27 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * rf3851a6776ce 10/autogen.sh: use standard autogen.sh
May 22 22:50:39 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r439f67c97f9c 10/src/ (4 files): refresh
May 22 22:51:10 * Deubeuliou hope he will be able to commit interesting stuff soon too ... it's up to bitbake now !
May 22 22:51:51 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> :)
May 22 22:52:33 <Toaster`> mickey|FSOSHRUDC: Do you have some time for some odeviced audio questions?
May 22 23:08:57 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> sure 
May 22 23:16:50 <Toaster`> ok, when I play a file via the .PlaySound() Audio interface method, I get two "playing" signals when it starts, and two "stopped" signals when it is finished.  Also, no signals are given for wav files (they use alsaplayer).  Am I doing something wrong or is this expected?
May 22 23:19:19 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> no, that's definitely not expected
May 22 23:19:26 <Toaster`> I've tried locally patching audio.py, but I can't figure out where the double signals are coming from, and when I patch for the wav file signals, I only get "playing" never stopped.  And since I also get .AlreadyPlaying errors when I play a wav twice (it fully stops between the two plays)
May 22 23:19:52 <Toaster`> I'm not sure if framework is aware of when wav files actually end
May 22 23:20:51 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> hmm
May 22 23:20:55 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> with the new alsaplayer it isn't
May 22 23:21:10 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> i should use a ProcessWatcher here
May 22 23:21:12 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> hmm
May 22 23:21:15 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> actually i thought i'm already
May 22 23:21:31 <TAsn> Ainulindale, added the new coding conventions to the wiki...
May 22 23:21:40 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> i'll give it a sanity check tomorrow
May 22 23:22:06 <Toaster`> mickey|FSOSHRUDC: Thanks.  I'd offer a patch, but I can't get it working :(
May 22 23:29:46 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03alain2210 07framework * r31cdabfe04bd 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/mediator.py: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] fix GetAuthStatus for modems which do not support +CPIN?
May 22 23:29:48 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03alain2210 07framework * r5d6d328a4da1 10/framework/subsystems/oeventsd/ (fso_actions.py fso_triggers.py): oeventsd: add KeypadEvent trigger to fso_triggers, add Shutdown action to fso_actions
May 22 23:32:38 <Ainulindale> TAsn: good, thanks :-)
May 22 23:32:48 <Ainulindale> TAsn: the lite image built by the way it's doing the testlab as we speak
May 22 23:33:04 <TAsn> Ainulindale, COOL! :) will download
May 22 23:33:08 <TAsn> I'm off to bed btw
May 22 23:33:09 <TAsn> night.
May 22 23:33:35 <TAsn> Ainulindale, it's not there
May 22 23:34:11 <TAsn> ok, will check it out later
May 22 23:34:13 <TAsn> nigth.
May 22 23:34:14 <TAsn> night.
May 22 23:34:18 <mrmoku> night.. :)
May 22 23:40:47 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> Toaster`: got it
May 22 23:40:54 <Toaster`> oh?
May 22 23:41:23 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> one more test...
May 22 23:42:02 <Toaster`> What was the problem?
May 22 23:42:21 <Toaster`> ~/was/was causing/
May 22 23:43:32 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> alsaplayer was missing the signal sending completely :)
May 22 23:43:48 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> and there was a traceback when the aplay process ended
May 22 23:44:26 <Deubeuliou> hey guys
May 22 23:44:30 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rae1ec16a1d85 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/audio.py: odeviced: audio.py: fix sending dbus signals for AlsaPlayer. Thanks Toaster for spotting.
May 22 23:44:38 <Deubeuliou> we are progressing with the streaming
May 22 23:44:55 <Toaster`> Deubeuliou: do you need testers?
May 22 23:45:04 <Deubeuliou> the only remaining problem is ... the camera itself
May 22 23:45:14 <Toaster`> mickey|FSOSHRUDC: Nice.  Does that solve the double signals too?
May 22 23:45:33 <Deubeuliou> we're trying to get it working
May 22 23:45:51 <Deubeuliou> BUT
May 22 23:45:56 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> Toaster`: i have not been able to reproduce thees
May 22 23:46:10 <Deubeuliou> the address will be "http://corrina.beas=rstech.com:1234"
May 22 23:46:22 <Toaster`> hrm.  I'mm double check on my end then
May 22 23:46:38 <Deubeuliou> (it may not work with VLC's gui, but "vlc http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234" will work)
May 22 23:46:38 <Toaster`> ~s/mm/ll/
May 22 23:46:57 <Deubeuliou> with mplayer ... you may have to wait for a minute or two before getting the stream
May 22 23:47:17 <Deubeuliou> or try twice
May 22 23:47:56 <Toaster`> Deubeuliou: "Connection refused"
May 22 23:48:23 <Deubeuliou> yeah I know
May 22 23:48:29 <Deubeuliou> re-read: "will bne"
May 22 23:48:32 <Deubeuliou> "will be"
May 22 23:48:49 <Deubeuliou> s/beas=rtech/bearstech/
May 22 23:49:22 <Toaster`> right
May 22 23:56:42 <Toaster`> mickey|FSOSHRUDC: it works now!  I still have the double signals, but I'll see if that's my error
May 22 23:57:32 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> good
May 22 23:57:43 <Toaster`> Thanks
May 22 23:57:52 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> np
May 22 23:58:29 <Toaster`> Ahh hell... I'm an idiot
May 22 23:59:30 <Toaster`> I was forgetting that I have 2 objects that are connected to that signal, and they emit the same debug message.
May 23 00:03:04 <Toaster`> Bad Toaster`... no cookie
May 23 00:04:12 <mickey|FSOSHRUDC> :)
May 23 00:05:23 <Toaster`> It's running as expected now... but I'm getting all sorts of survivable traceback... weird
May 23 00:07:30 <Toaster`> I'm getting a NotPlaying dbus error when I'm calling .StopSound("/path/to/file.ext") It still stops properly, but I'm confused about the messages
May 23 00:09:45 <mrmoku> TAsn, here you go :)
May 23 00:13:47 <Toaster`> mrmoku: When would recent changes to frameworkd be included in the unstable feed?
May 23 00:15:25 <Deubeuliou> http://www.flickr.com/photos/deubeuliou/
May 23 00:15:38 <Deubeuliou> here are the first pictures from FSOSHRUDCON :)
May 23 00:16:06 <Deubeuliou> substitute for the stream :)
May 23 00:16:41 <Toaster`> Deubeuliou: any chance of getting come names added in? :)  It makes it easier to mock people later :)
May 23 00:17:42 <Deubeuliou> yeah, fore sure
May 23 00:17:49 <Deubeuliou> later on, I'll add comments
May 23 00:18:02 <Deubeuliou> for now, you can try to read the stickers on our t-shirts
May 23 00:18:13 <Deubeuliou> (advice: I'm still not on any picture)
May 23 00:18:57 <mrmoku> Toaster`, building it now... (frameworkd)
May 23 00:19:23 <mwester> washable lolcat?
May 23 00:20:15 <Deubeuliou> ^^
May 23 00:20:35 <Deubeuliou> my cat ... who decided to sleep on cleaned clothes
May 23 00:21:00 <mwester> :) and a hedgehog.  But I think he's not part of FSOSHRUDCON...
May 23 00:21:08 <Deubeuliou> (maybe they were warm or maybe just smelling good ... I dunno... or maybe it was fun to put lint on them)
May 23 00:21:22 <Deubeuliou> nope :) the cat isn't neither
May 23 01:33:44 <CIA-75> SHR: 03frazier.cameron 07shr-settings * rcd44b3056d76 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_currentprofile.py: [CurrentProfile] Further improvements to ringtone preview. Latest frameworkd is required (commit ae1ec16)
May 23 02:03:13 <Marcello9001> hi
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