**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 23 02:59:57 2009 May 23 03:02:35 tracfeed: Ticket #473 (GPRS settings pickle file doesn't get created after successful connect ...) created May 23 03:44:25 hm, well, the gprs settings pickle file isn't getting loaded at all May 23 03:56:56 ugh, that's because apn, username and password are defined in two places May 23 03:59:05 what's the shr password? May 23 03:59:41 for root? it's blank May 23 03:59:56 no it isn't for the last image May 23 04:00:16 oh, dunno about later than testing May 23 04:01:10 easy enough to change May 23 04:02:14 * dns53 slaps head, forgot to logon as root May 23 04:03:41 where's the sqllite db for contacts? May 23 04:03:44 * johnsu01 slaps head too, just figured out "bug" was pebkac May 23 04:08:31 tracfeed: Ticket #473 (GPRS settings pickle file doesn't get created after successful connect ...) updated May 23 06:17:30 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) created May 23 06:36:46 FSOSHRUDCON has kicked off? May 23 07:33:47 morgen May 23 07:38:22 good morning from f9n ! May 23 07:44:39 *yawn* May 23 07:44:43 * mickey|FSOSHRUDC sips more coffee May 23 07:45:01 yeaaaahhh May 23 07:45:25 _____ ____ _ ____ _ May 23 07:45:25 | ___| __ ___ ___/ ___| _ __ ___ __ _ _ __| |_| _ \| |__ ___ _ __ ___ May 23 07:45:25 | |_ | '__/ _ \/ _ \___ \| '_ ` _ \ / _` | '__| __| |_) | '_ \ / _ \| '_ \ / _ \ May 23 07:45:25 | _|| | | __/ __/___) | | | | | | (_| | | | |_| __/| | | | (_) | | | | __/ May 23 07:45:25 |_| |_| \___|\___|____/|_| |_| |_|\__,_|_| \__|_| |_| |_|\___/|_| |_|\___| May 23 07:45:28 hmm May 23 07:45:46 figlet rocks May 23 07:46:07 mickey|F9N our artist ;) May 23 07:46:35 heh May 23 07:46:37 nice location the linuxhotel! May 23 07:46:41 indeed May 23 07:53:06 mrmoku, thanks! May 23 07:54:46 TAsn, nice gtk theme :) May 23 07:54:47 tracfeed: Ticket #475 (battery gadget, wrong charge level on GTA02 + latest shr-unstable) created May 23 07:55:08 mrmoku, you only now installed it? May 23 07:55:14 anyhow, what kernel should I get? May 23 07:55:18 om-latest? May 23 07:55:21 or just latest? May 23 07:56:34 TAsn, what is om-latest? and what is latest? May 23 07:56:39 dunno May 23 07:57:00 TAsn, http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr119809+f16c3431a1a7510eb3504ec5d96677dd0fac4cd6-r3.4-om-gta02.bin May 23 07:57:04 TAsn: boo May 23 07:57:05 is what I did flash... May 23 07:57:13 raster, hey. ;) May 23 07:57:15 TAsn: your rtl patches are out again... May 23 07:57:24 out? May 23 07:57:25 they broke cursors something wickedly May 23 07:57:31 reverted May 23 07:57:35 hm.. will look at that. May 23 07:57:41 raster, sucks ;\ May 23 07:57:46 no longer could select text properly May 23 07:57:54 cursors wouldnt be places on chars on a line May 23 07:58:00 only a whole lone can be selected May 23 07:58:26 I told you I didn't have the time to do real QA... :) May 23 07:58:44 anyhow, will try to see what's wrong, you say the only problem was selection? May 23 08:00:24 I only "really" tested it on the moko, where I don't select text. May 23 08:00:30 raster, how back did you revert it? May 23 08:00:49 raster, and did you patch the illume keyboard yet? (that won't break anything...) May 23 08:01:56 ummm i reverted the commit where i put in a bunch of your rtl patches together May 23 08:02:04 and no - hsavnt done illume kbd yet May 23 08:02:28 ok, and you say the only problem was selection? May 23 08:03:11 well cursors and selection May 23 08:03:17 but thats one way to see it May 23 08:03:23 and selection is based on cursors May 23 08:04:04 ok, so only cursor positions May 23 08:04:08 and how did you select? May 23 08:04:25 I mean, using mouse? (is it even possible?) or just with keyboard? May 23 08:04:50 what's the latest commit that still has these issues? May 23 08:04:54 I want to be able to check... May 23 08:07:07 hold mouse down for 1 sec May 23 08:07:10 a menu will pop up May 23 08:07:11 :) May 23 08:07:23 it doesnt have the issues May 23 08:07:25 i reverted May 23 08:07:33 ummm svn commits list shows it May 23 08:07:35 with patches May 23 08:07:36 :) May 23 08:08:20 raster, only with mouse? what about when selecting with keyboard? May 23 08:08:33 I think there is an issue with mouse then. ;\ May 23 08:08:51 anyhow, no need to revert, just compile without international support. May 23 08:08:53 ... May 23 08:08:57 though will try to fix it May 23 08:13:11 mrmoku, omg! don't panic is installed by default! :) May 23 08:23:56 TAsn, yup May 23 08:24:42 very cool. May 23 08:24:58 though I see you only generated lite May 23 08:25:04 any specific reason? May 23 08:25:05 and in contrast to what dos1 said... it works from flash out of the box May 23 08:25:14 TAsn, did not finish to build overnight :( May 23 08:25:23 oh, okie :) May 23 08:25:31 mrmoku, raise your hand May 23 08:27:37 as a teasing, I recorded a short video of the welcome words with my photo camera May 23 08:27:37 mrmoku, also no packages tasks, epdf view and enotes ;) May 23 08:27:53 (so bad image, bad sound, I guess, but we are still struggling with the DV camera) May 23 08:27:57 I'll upload May 23 08:28:23 and callrec May 23 08:32:11 TAsn, working on it :) May 23 08:32:17 * mrmoku is raising his hand :P May 23 08:32:21 (virtually) May 23 08:32:35 pysically please May 23 08:32:46 s/py/phy/ May 23 08:32:46 playya meant: physically please May 23 08:33:23 are you already in essen? May 23 08:33:48 playya, yup... thought out of camera sight I think ;) May 23 08:33:58 s/thought/though/ May 23 08:33:59 mrmoku meant: playya, yup... though out of camera sight I think ;) May 23 08:44:08 mrmoku, and of course, vim. :) May 23 08:48:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r98a9de0d1bea 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio: add throw clauses May 23 08:49:25 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r0e5b2bfab17f 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix typo May 23 08:52:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * re1077c693e4d 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): more typos May 23 08:52:28 raster, that's odd, here with elementary test, everything works great... (pc, not moko) May 23 08:52:38 doing just what you described. May 23 08:53:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r5f586414efb8 10/src/freesmartphone-device.vala: refresh May 23 08:54:20 though patched locally. May 23 08:54:48 so either the patches I sent you are corrupted, or I forgot to send you a patch May 23 08:55:05 or I fucked something up after compiling on the pc :) May 23 08:55:41 anyhow, getting revision 40782 May 23 08:55:44 will check with that. May 23 08:57:24 mrmoku, i just have a question about my patch for libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 May 23 09:00:13 tracfeed: Ticket #435 (The default locale is again POSIX and not en_US.utf8) closed May 23 09:06:42 cool, connman is installed by default :) May 23 09:27:49 hi guys May 23 09:27:57 WE ARE STREAMING LIVE ! May 23 09:28:08 http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234 May 23 09:28:19 if you use VLC, don't use the GUI May 23 09:28:28 just type "vlc http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234" May 23 09:28:39 if you are using mplay, do the same, a wait for a moment May 23 09:28:50 it may takes up to a minute since you get an image May 23 09:28:56 s/since/until/ May 23 09:28:57 Deubeuliou meant: it may takes up to a minute until you get an image May 23 09:29:17 if it breaks, let me know May 23 09:29:56 tracfeed: Ticket #280 (Phone Log crash if phone isn't connected to the provider.) closed May 23 09:30:07 wow many geeks in one room :D May 23 09:30:32 Deubeuliou: my mplayer crashed ;/ May 23 09:30:36 I know May 23 09:30:40 I just restarted May 23 09:30:44 ;) May 23 09:30:46 to avoid further xrash May 23 09:30:58 (actually, to recover crashes automatically) May 23 09:31:00 btw will there be audio ?:> May 23 09:31:05 (at least, I hope) May 23 09:31:10 you don't get any ?? May 23 09:31:23 nope May 23 09:31:24 microphone must be off May 23 09:31:59 no i hear May 23 09:32:01 please talk to us! May 23 09:32:07 s/no/now May 23 09:32:08 If you hear then you suck! May 23 09:32:10 hm.. btw, does anyone know how to get a section in tangogps to cache? May 23 09:32:32 Deubeuliou, works :) May 23 09:32:45 mind circling people and writing the names? May 23 09:32:46 :) May 23 09:33:15 whaddayamean ? May 23 09:34:43 hm.. May 23 09:34:48 take a red pen May 23 09:35:02 introduce people. May 23 09:35:07 no need for the pen actually. May 23 09:35:32 I'm gonna cut the stream in a minute, to record the stream too :) May 23 09:36:38 Deubeuliou: so recordings are available soon? May 23 09:36:39 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) updated May 23 09:38:29 yes May 23 09:38:41 morphis: the stream is also available right now May 23 09:38:45 great May 23 09:40:08 but I am not on the pc all the time, so recordings might be great May 23 09:40:28 k May 23 09:40:34 *cutting right now May 23 09:43:51 Deubeuliou, i cant connect to the stream, i get an "could not create access error"... whats wrong? May 23 09:44:49 Slyon: wait a minute May 23 09:45:03 PaulFertser, okay May 23 09:45:05 Slyon: the stream will be up again really soon. May 23 09:45:13 k, thx May 23 09:45:18 will see ;) May 23 10:05:09 Slyon: please retry May 23 10:05:52 if you experience a lot of disconnections, try adding the "-R" option to VLC May 23 10:06:05 it will try to reconnect to the stream May 23 10:06:49 Deubeuliou, video works sound only makes some noise May 23 10:07:26 the microphone is off May 23 10:07:30 okay May 23 10:09:15 when are presentations UTC/EST? May 23 10:09:29 tmzt: it depends... May 23 10:09:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r99b118a96d47 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio: s/id/name/ May 23 10:09:46 tmzt: the schedule was altered to allow for more time to setup streaming. May 23 10:10:01 looks good, can't hear much May 23 10:10:15 oh, ok May 23 10:10:20 microphone turned off May 23 10:10:21 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * r8f63e7d7a4e4 10/src/freesmartphone-device.vala: refresh May 23 10:11:25 there goes the first day ;-) May 23 10:13:45 second :) May 23 10:13:57 we worked a bit tommorow night May 23 10:14:18 anyone here using h:1? May 23 10:15:50 Deubeuliou: you worked tomorrow ? are you guys holding back on some significant advances in time travel technology ? :) May 23 10:16:19 heh May 23 10:16:40 vlx is funny. crashes on my triple-head. but it works inside vnc :) May 23 10:16:55 wpwrak: he meant yesterday May 23 10:17:02 we worked on it until 4 in the morning May 23 10:17:09 oh dear :) May 23 10:17:09 Proof is my look May 23 10:17:16 I look as a used towel May 23 10:17:38 Ainulindale: which one are you ? May 23 10:17:52 wpwrak: the one just looking weird right now May 23 10:17:53 hi :) May 23 10:17:57 servietsky ? :) May 23 10:18:08 Nah, franzusky May 23 10:18:40 ah, don't know this one May 23 10:19:30 Ainulindale, i'm still having issues with my messagebook. dos1 hinted to upgrade once more yesterday. but today it's worse : May 23 10:19:54 messages segfaulted every time i tried to launch it. and i was able to list my messagebook using dbus only once May 23 10:19:55 SHR: 03mok 07shr-overlay * r7608df753213 10/patches/libsdl/0001-libsdl-mixer-build-fix.patch: patches: add patch to fix build of libsdl-mixer May 23 10:20:19 now i can't even dial : org.freesmartphone.ogsmd is gone, and i've rebooted three times May 23 10:21:23 wow, sound ! :) May 23 10:21:34 KaZeR: please give us the framework logs May 23 10:22:10 Ainulindale: have you tried to opkg update; opkg upgrade today? :D May 23 10:22:11 only info. no errors. phone is rebooting, i'll paste a fresh session in a few seconds minutes May 23 10:22:14 wpwrak: how is the quality of the sound ? May 23 10:22:24 dider set an ambiance microphone May 23 10:22:27 Ainulindale: stream? :x May 23 10:22:28 *didier May 23 10:23:02 Deubeuliou, could be better, there is some noise in the background May 23 10:23:03 Deubeuliou: i can hear mickey May 23 10:23:08 ok, great May 23 10:23:18 i think it's just because everybody is talking at the same time :) May 23 10:23:19 the presenter will have a dedicated, good micrphone May 23 10:23:24 the one you heard before May 23 10:23:26 dos1: stream is here May 23 10:23:38 Deubeuliou: http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234 May 23 10:23:42 hmpf, dos1 May 23 10:23:47 Ainulindale: thanks :) May 23 10:24:30 where are you guys on the stremam? May 23 10:24:35 uh, stream May 23 10:25:12 everywhere May 23 10:25:32 there is buzz May 23 10:25:32 :D May 23 10:25:39 dos1: lol May 23 10:25:45 lol dos1 May 23 10:25:48 Ainulindale is toying with the camera May 23 10:26:12 Ainulindale is the guy with a beard who went in front of the camera one minute ago? May 23 10:26:17 Daniel is mad bug-fixing everything atm. He has a set of very cool equipment and unusual skills ;) May 23 10:26:35 :-) May 23 10:26:40 KaZeR: Ainulindale is the guy with glasses. May 23 10:26:41 thanks May 23 10:26:50 KaZeR: and a beard too. May 23 10:26:52 my internet connection is crappy ;/ May 23 10:27:17 or smplayer sucks ;/ May 23 10:27:28 who is talking? :D May 23 10:27:47 dos1: it was Deubeuliou with the mic. May 23 10:27:58 and the hair May 23 10:28:03 hehe :) May 23 10:28:04 hehe May 23 10:28:18 i only hear sound :-( May 23 10:28:29 you have no image ? May 23 10:28:36 (deubeulou writing) May 23 10:29:06 Ainulindale, i confirm, no errors in framework's log. May 23 10:29:21 dbus listing gives dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freesmartphone.ogsmd was not provided by any .service files May 23 10:29:35 ah, now it works May 23 10:29:37 i'm playing with mplayer options now May 23 10:29:46 that was didier :) May 23 10:29:52 ptijes? May 23 10:30:18 very graceful :) May 23 10:30:36 no, looks like a fagget now :) May 23 10:31:20 have you dropped the blinds on the windows? May 23 10:31:23 it's dark ^^ May 23 10:31:27 ahah :) May 23 10:31:33 ;D May 23 10:31:40 arf arf arf May 23 10:31:54 say something about me! say something about me!!!1 May 23 10:31:55 :D May 23 10:32:03 ptitjes|F9N, i have one advantage over you : you don't know how i looke like :) May 23 10:32:11 s/looke/look May 23 10:32:16 uh, lag May 23 10:32:23 oh, btw May 23 10:32:24 yep May 23 10:32:24 md2k7: yep we hopefully succeeded in closing light sources :) May 23 10:32:29 "End of file" May 23 10:32:29 KaZeR: grrrrr May 23 10:32:31 :D May 23 10:32:38 Ainulindale's fault May 23 10:32:42 hm sucks May 23 10:32:56 Ainulindale: give us stream back! May 23 10:32:58 mplayer on windows is crap ;/ May 23 10:33:07 soltys: windows is crap May 23 10:33:09 :P May 23 10:33:14 dos1: i know ;) May 23 10:33:18 soltys: why not VLC? May 23 10:33:28 md2k7: downloading right now ;) May 23 10:33:41 u have time, stream is offline May 23 10:33:46 arf Ainulindale just touches all the things he doesn't know... May 23 10:33:48 :) May 23 10:33:57 md2k7: i know ;) May 23 10:34:00 it's back May 23 10:34:11 what is it anyway, mpeg2 ts? May 23 10:34:16 btw ... hurray for Debian May 23 10:34:26 TS file format detected. May 23 10:34:58 dos1: yes, now wait May 23 10:34:59 try vlc, mplayer doesn't like it May 23 10:35:07 my little debian-powered laptop is able to stream while ptitjes' big shock-protected gentoo-based isn't May 23 10:35:15 tmzt: mplayer plays it, just not immediately. May 23 10:35:24 PaulFertser: i know, i said it to tmzt ;) May 23 10:35:31 gentoo rocks ! May 23 10:35:38 no it doesn't May 23 10:35:45 oh, sorry, in a way it does May 23 10:35:45 it is ;) May 23 10:35:52 since it is as useful as a rock May 23 10:35:55 mplayer works for me May 23 10:36:16 is it working again? May 23 10:36:20 well, yeah. I was using vlc then tried mplayer which just stopped with TS message May 23 10:36:22 I tried to fix the picture a bit May 23 10:36:52 Ainulindale, working again. the stream, i mean, not my phone ;) May 23 10:37:01 Well yeah but I can't help now seriously I'm sorry May 23 10:37:06 I will later May 23 10:37:13 nah, don't worry, i truly understang May 23 10:37:14 Probably while other people will be talking May 23 10:37:20 Ainulindale: are you in france now or germany? May 23 10:37:34 Germany I'm live on the stream May 23 10:37:43 tmzt, of course we all in germany) May 23 10:37:45 nobody in france? May 23 10:37:48 Ainulindale, i'll try to reflash the phone and see if it occurs again. you don't owe me anything, no problem :) May 23 10:37:55 tmzt: I don't think so May 23 10:37:58 tmzt, i am in france. but i guess it doesn't count :) May 23 10:38:15 or I should say, the stream is being forwarded at bearstech? May 23 10:38:21 Ainulindale, btw, what is link to live-video? May 23 10:38:52 max_posedon: topic May 23 10:39:04 oh, yes) May 23 10:39:13 hey FSOSHRUDCON in streaming :) great May 23 10:39:28 zoom-zoom May 23 10:39:47 max_posedon: funny, I'm currently watching it through evdo on my touch pro forwarded with iptables, but if I even use wget on the device itself I get a kernel panic, I can't see how this is possible May 23 10:39:50 is any1 going to talk? or are u going to eat next May 23 10:40:07 tmzt: what's the panic message? May 23 10:40:26 i'm wondering what i will understand from talks... my english is bad, but good enough for reading and writing, but for speaking and hearing is really really bad :x May 23 10:40:34 lindi-: related to ppp async tty or something, this isn't a freerunner though May 23 10:40:35 tmzt, may be because cpu arch issues? May 23 10:40:45 maybe May 23 10:41:13 dos1, you need to watch movies in English May 23 10:42:02 sth is wrong with sream or i just don't have luck ? May 23 10:42:05 md2k7: yep. i watch sometimes, and i understand ~50% of movie :x May 23 10:42:07 ;/ May 23 10:42:14 :( May 23 10:42:16 but too rarely May 23 10:42:18 was that windows? May 23 10:42:25 soltys: stream is ok May 23 10:42:33 soltys: with mplayer on linux May 23 10:42:42 soltys: have you tried with vlc on windows? May 23 10:43:06 dos1: yeap 1-5 sec of audio and video and nothing May 23 10:43:17 which vlc? May 23 10:43:25 mhm May 23 10:43:39 version 0.9.9 May 23 10:43:44 mplayer works fine here :) May 23 10:43:52 doesn't seem to work with vlc on windows here also May 23 10:43:57 damn windows ;/ May 23 10:44:14 I think it's using the dvb module on linux which doesn't exist on windows May 23 10:44:18 libdvbpsi May 23 10:44:20 vlc even works fine for me May 23 10:44:46 soltys: Zorkman: my fellows confirm vlc on video plays the stream without problems. May 23 10:45:02 Just don't forget to use http:// , not RTP May 23 10:45:22 i did use http:// May 23 10:45:22 gonna cut the stream for 5 seconds, to increase the quality May 23 10:45:23 do you have a HTTP proxy configured, soltys ? May 23 10:45:25 must be doing something else wrong May 23 10:45:34 hi roh May 23 10:45:36 vlc works, my mplayer doesnt like it May 23 10:45:37 Deubeuliou: is mpeg2 the only codec that worked? May 23 10:45:38 End of file May 23 10:45:39 tmzt: i don't have any http proxy May 23 10:45:41 EOF May 23 10:46:13 and re. is that on purpose or is your connection that nice? May 23 10:46:14 works now for me May 23 10:46:25 my crappy internet connection... i have sometimes lags :/ May 23 10:46:37 tmzt: yeah ... sadly May 23 10:46:40 dos1 bigger cache ;) May 23 10:46:44 I actually meant the people at F9N May 23 10:46:47 mplayer -cache 8192 http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234 May 23 10:47:21 Zorkman: what did you do ? May 23 10:47:36 because of the VLC version that we have on the streaming server... but even with a bleeding edge version, we did not manage to get a proper stream May 23 10:47:57 gonna cut again ... because we did not gain in quality ... swithcing back to the old one May 23 10:47:59 vlc appears to have an icecast client now May 23 10:48:43 soltys: don't know... i'm quite sure i did the exact same thing... (media>open network->copy paste the url http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234 and start playing it May 23 10:48:54 now it stopped... May 23 10:49:00 after playing a minute or two May 23 10:49:08 with -cache 8192 (mplayer) it works only 5-6 seconds, and it EOFs May 23 10:49:12 inverted pic? May 23 10:49:14 Zorkman: working again. May 23 10:49:23 jup, working again May 23 10:49:33 max_posedon: what package is unistd.h, stdio.h in? May 23 10:49:47 10 sek and stop ;/ May 23 10:49:47 beggining May 23 10:49:48 connect now May 23 10:49:50 argh ! it worked on linux! May 23 10:49:55 yep, i was going to suggest the mic May 23 10:49:56 ah, connection refused May 23 10:49:57 tmzt, glibc May 23 10:50:01 or gcc May 23 10:50:05 ok, it works now May 23 10:50:09 btw: did something interesting happen yesterday? May 23 10:50:11 Everybody try again, it works now. May 23 10:50:28 looks good May 23 10:50:34 lag May 23 10:50:50 sound works, video not May 23 10:51:03 who's the speaker atm? May 23 10:51:08 mickey May 23 10:51:10 mickey|zzZZzz: May 23 10:51:34 please people out there stop using it May 23 10:51:39 you're borking the bandwith :-) May 23 10:51:43 yeah, already thought that it didn't sound like the frenglish i expect from Ainulindale ;) May 23 10:51:49 (people in the same room as I am) May 23 10:52:01 ok, looks like it's working now May 23 10:52:01 locally you can reach it from 192.168.1.189:8080 May 23 10:52:06 (If I'm not mistaken) May 23 10:52:50 yep, confirm correct May 23 10:53:05 Ok good May 23 10:53:18 ok smplayer works May 23 10:53:37 looking forward to the feed of the party with the opensource strippers! May 23 10:54:37 vlc preamp helps (advanced settings) May 23 10:56:36 hehe, even the stream has the BUZZ problem :) May 23 10:56:56 well complaints go to ptitjes May 23 10:57:00 he's the sound engineer May 23 10:57:29 cool, 2pass really helps that but it's quieter May 23 10:57:29 bah, who cares, with the preamp the buzz is eliminated May 23 10:57:39 yeah, two pass is much better May 23 10:57:57 try the 170 slider May 23 11:03:50 dos1, have you tested the turning gsm on/off from shr-settings? May 23 11:03:54 cause here it doesn't work... May 23 11:04:32 TAsn: it works here... May 23 11:04:54 here it just jams the phone when trying to turn back on. May 23 11:05:44 lags ? May 23 11:06:08 TAsn: here it jams for few seconds and then it asks for PIN... May 23 11:06:33 not the case here... ;\ May 23 11:07:59 will try giving it more time. May 23 11:08:12 is there a way to just listen to the audio of the stream withouth having to download the video? because i don't have much download volume left May 23 11:08:18 btw, from what I have seen May 23 11:08:46 it's a TS with two PIDs, I don't think you can split it yourself May 23 11:08:48 it seems that it disconnects from SIM i.e retrieving contacts/sms doesn't work, which is NOT wanted. May 23 11:10:18 SHR Settings! May 23 11:10:19 :D May 23 11:10:26 yeah :-p May 23 11:10:29 hehe May 23 11:11:06 * dos1 did screen shots :D May 23 11:11:20 dos1: video is written to an hard drive May 23 11:11:29 and will be available online later May 23 11:11:42 Ainulindale: fine :) May 23 11:11:43 mp2/mp3 could be extracted May 23 11:11:50 perfect, can't afford to keep looking at it this month May 23 11:15:33 dos1, concerning what I said a second ago: May 23 11:15:44 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: GetSimInfo failed: org.freesmartphone.Resource.NotEnabled May 23 11:15:53 ... should be enabled. May 23 11:16:07 the only thing that should not is the actual gsm antenna May 23 11:16:11 and network registration May 23 11:16:21 TAsn: that how it worked before May 23 11:16:29 but ophonekitd didn't handled that May 23 11:16:38 ok, so we need to fix ophonekitd May 23 11:16:40 but disabling the sim May 23 11:16:42 is BAD May 23 11:16:54 since I may want to use my contacts while the gsm is off. May 23 11:16:55 not bad if you want to manage your power consumption May 23 11:17:03 ptitjes|F9N, smoking? May 23 11:17:06 TAsn: then use opimd! :D May 23 11:17:13 not funny. ;) May 23 11:17:21 opimd sim backend May 23 11:17:24 will also fail.... May 23 11:17:33 should sim work when CFUN=0? May 23 11:17:39 I cut the stream May 23 11:18:07 EOF :< May 23 11:18:10 TAsn: you will have access to contacts on SIM May 23 11:18:12 back May 23 11:18:18 TAsn: you just won't be able to edit/delete/add them May 23 11:18:18 how? May 23 11:18:23 cache? May 23 11:18:27 well that's also BAD May 23 11:18:37 (in order to split the recorded files) May 23 11:18:47 (so we have a file for each presentation) May 23 11:18:51 hahahaaha May 23 11:18:53 dos1, just make it right, don't try to find excuses on why it shouldn't be done right :) May 23 11:18:54 cool, so no questions? May 23 11:19:07 i want that graphics! May 23 11:19:14 i would like to do SHR splash theme from it :)\ May 23 11:20:08 ok, that's official May 23 11:20:12 here it doesn't wake back up ;) May 23 11:20:16 gave it a good 5 minutes. May 23 11:20:56 :D May 23 11:21:01 mickey|FSOSHRUDC: which touch pro was that? May 23 11:21:06 that graphic rules ;) May 23 11:21:10 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) updated May 23 11:22:45 so waiting for Ainu's talk May 23 11:23:25 dos1: you should be there;P May 23 11:24:15 soltys: with my pakistanian english? ;D May 23 11:24:17 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) updated May 23 11:24:20 well May 23 11:24:25 i wish i could be there :P May 23 11:24:32 :) May 23 11:24:34 dos1, btw, when using your wifi playground demo, how can I enable wifi? I mean, after I connected, just ifup eth0 ? May 23 11:24:34 me 2 ;) May 23 11:24:35 maybe on next FSOSHRUDCON May 23 11:24:39 me 3 May 23 11:24:57 Hi there. What is the live stream direction? May 23 11:25:11 TAsn: yep, i'm using ifup eth0 to handle routes May 23 11:25:11 freesmartphone.org: 03alain2210 07framework * r360c068b204d 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/channel.py: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] enable charging and fix a buglet in the modem's channel May 23 11:25:15 TAsn: it's bad, but it works May 23 11:25:19 Arhuaco: look at topic May 23 11:25:22 dos1, great! May 23 11:25:24 will give it a try May 23 11:25:30 and then you run dhcpc by hand? May 23 11:25:33 dos1, thanks... May 23 11:25:41 Ainulindale speaking May 23 11:25:41 TAsn: ifup eth0 runs dhcpc for me May 23 11:25:56 dos1, done by default or is there something I need to change? May 23 11:26:12 TAsn: i think i didn't changed anything May 23 11:26:12 ;) May 23 11:26:16 -d May 23 11:26:44 great :) May 23 11:26:58 i saw my name! ;D May 23 11:27:55 u rox :D May 23 11:28:09 who's that? mickey? May 23 11:28:12 Ainulindale ? May 23 11:28:21 TAsn: Ainu May 23 11:28:22 oh probably Ainulindale May 23 11:28:23 TAsn japp May 23 11:28:24 yeah. May 23 11:28:25 TAsn: mickey was before May 23 11:29:30 dos1, although hackish May 23 11:29:43 I'm adding system("ifup eth0") here :) May 23 11:29:52 TAsn: hehe May 23 11:29:55 TAsn: oh, i forgot May 23 11:30:02 ifdown usb0 also :P May 23 11:30:02 ? May 23 11:30:10 sucks :( May 23 11:30:11 before ifup May 23 11:30:14 cool. May 23 11:30:24 do I have to ifup usb0 May 23 11:30:28 before connecting usb again May 23 11:30:32 or is there a script that does that? May 23 11:30:37 yes May 23 11:30:41 yes to which? May 23 11:30:49 yes to having to ifup May 23 11:31:08 is that current shr? May 23 11:31:10 okie. May 23 11:31:17 tmzt: looks like current for me :P May 23 11:31:32 I've never seen the sim stuff so I didn't know May 23 11:33:30 dos1: now it's about you ;) May 23 11:33:35 i see :D May 23 11:33:49 dos1: shr-settings? May 23 11:33:52 dos1: what is that windows icon on the bottom right ???? May 23 11:33:54 :( May 23 11:33:57 :D May 23 11:34:09 tmzt: yep May 23 11:34:11 ptitjes|F9N: where? May 23 11:34:19 the one of "Services" May 23 11:34:33 isn't it a Windows icon ? May 23 11:34:42 ptitjes|F9N: it's from KDE's Oxygen (like other icons) May 23 11:34:53 I think I'm going to need some major changes for cdma in it, it's tied to AT commands or sim or something, couldn't even get it to start really (partly) May 23 11:35:07 dos1: oh! May 23 11:35:23 dos1: this really looks lke a Windwos icon :p May 23 11:35:46 Ainulindale, install the gtk theme!!! :) May 23 11:36:20 :) May 23 11:36:24 and gentoo :) thanks to max_posedon and solar, etc. May 23 11:36:29 PIM support :D May 23 11:36:39 haha Duke Nukem :D May 23 11:37:37 is this Ainulindale talking? May 23 11:37:40 tmzt, Ainulindale gentoo user too, he is more interested in Gentoo too) May 23 11:37:44 Zorkman: yep May 23 11:37:47 Zorkman: this is May 23 11:37:49 ;) May 23 11:37:55 tmzt, I'm hire here many people in Gentoo project) May 23 11:38:06 max_posedon: actually I'm a ubuntu/debian user, but the gentoo arm stuff really works May 23 11:38:15 gentoo openmoko overlay has ophonekitd and shr-* stuff ;P May 23 11:38:17 so... May 23 11:38:33 soltys, yes, but not all stuff is perfect May 23 11:38:46 we missing devs from fso/shr core May 23 11:38:59 it crate problems with autoconfiguration/configs other stuff May 23 11:39:00 ;) May 23 11:39:03 *create* May 23 11:39:07 i don't know May 23 11:39:16 not using it atm May 23 11:39:16 it works, but not really easy for us maintain it May 23 11:39:54 argh this stream don't like me ;/ May 23 11:39:55 * Arhuaco Werner says May 23 11:40:05 * Arhuaco Werner says : Microkernel my ass. May 23 11:42:26 Arhuaco: what is that in reference to? May 23 11:43:52 * Arhuaco I'm watching the presentation with Werner now. He says "microkernel" is a scary concept. That's all.. just a lousy remark. May 23 11:44:02 * Arhuaco tmzt: I'm watching the presentation with Werner now. He says "microkernel" is a scary concept. That's all.. just a lousy remark. May 23 11:45:19 ah May 23 11:47:34 dos1, does connman startup automatically at boot time? May 23 11:47:37 here it doesn,t. May 23 11:47:58 TAsn: here too, but it starts with dbus May 23 11:48:17 what do you mean starts with dbus? May 23 11:48:35 TAsn: when you use dbus interface, it's autolaunched May 23 11:48:54 oh really? I just get "can't reach connman daemon" May 23 11:48:59 in playground wifi May 23 11:49:20 dos1: did you look at wifi handling in paroli? May 23 11:49:43 might make your task smaller / easier ... or you can tell me if it is sh** May 23 11:49:45 :) May 23 11:49:52 mirko-paroli: no May 23 11:50:18 when i started wifiman.py, i didn't know there is (or would be?) wifi handling in paroli May 23 11:50:31 dos1: yeah, I think it wasn't back then May 23 11:50:38 but i will look of course May 23 11:50:42 I took one saturday and fought my way through May 23 11:51:19 dos1: just as an option :) May 23 11:51:31 minimizing duplucate work May 23 11:51:36 duplicate May 23 11:52:13 mirko-paroli: does route handling work with paroli? May 23 11:52:19 not sure May 23 11:52:43 well May 23 11:52:58 i think i have to go now :/ May 23 11:53:01 cutting the stream, once more May 23 11:53:08 dos1: don't worry May 23 11:53:11 now onen is going to talk? May 23 11:53:16 dos1: streams are recorded May 23 11:53:27 dos1: now it is mirko May 23 11:53:30 back up May 23 11:53:48 ;) May 23 11:53:49 tracfeed: Ticket #476 (Cannot create contact starting with *) created May 23 11:53:57 dos1: he will talk about the Paroli effort May 23 11:53:58 in fact, I cut th stream between talks in order to have one fil for each talk May 23 11:54:06 ptitjes|F9N: huh May 23 11:54:20 dos1: we miss you May 23 11:54:23 !!!! May 23 11:54:27 Deubeuliou: when will recording be available? May 23 11:54:28 :D May 23 11:54:37 hey, from the f9n May 23 11:55:05 if i have luck i will visit the f9n for some hours tomorrow May 23 11:55:16 Deubeuliou: today? May 23 11:55:26 how is the meeting so far? May 23 11:56:02 dos1: mmmmh maybe the raw files, yes. but ptitjes|F9N will rework on them May 23 11:56:12 and post them next week May 23 11:56:20 huh May 23 11:56:24 not fine May 23 11:56:29 ?? May 23 11:56:44 what will be after next talk? May 23 11:56:54 Deubeuliou: for people who want audio can you extract that, it should be simple to do with mplayer/vlc May 23 11:56:55 I'm not sure ... May 23 11:57:07 tmzt: right now ? May 23 11:57:12 no May 23 11:57:17 ok May 23 11:57:19 ask ptitjes|F9N May 23 11:57:24 buzzzzz :D May 23 11:57:33 ptitjes|F9N: what will be next talk? May 23 11:57:43 but I guess Zorkman could use it, we just don't want you to drop the stream :) May 23 11:58:11 what was that app showing missed calls / unreaded sms ? May 23 11:58:42 the stream is not so good here May 23 11:58:49 dos1: what's the stream link? May 23 11:59:03 http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234 May 23 11:59:04 mirko-paroli: topic May 23 11:59:06 soltys, notifier? May 23 11:59:14 dos1: F9N May 23 11:59:20 yep, notifier May 23 11:59:23 wpwrak: yes, that one May 23 11:59:25 it's in opkg.org, isn't it? May 23 11:59:32 Sharwin_F: dunno but I'll check it ;) May 23 11:59:36 mirko-paroli: link is in topic of this chan ;) May 23 11:59:44 mirko-paroli, wifi works great in paroli? May 23 12:00:04 dos1: ah thx May 23 12:00:07 well May 23 12:00:25 waiting for nice stuff from coding workshops May 23 12:00:32 bbl May 23 12:00:45 dos1: i see ypu build splash packages ;) May 23 12:00:56 s/ypu/you May 23 12:09:02 tracfeed: Ticket #476 (Cannot create contact starting with *) updated May 23 12:09:56 completely gone now May 23 12:11:51 * mrmoku happy May 23 12:11:56 BUZZ rest in peace :D May 23 12:12:20 it's back :) May 23 12:12:26 :P May 23 12:14:43 (werner) nice start :) May 23 12:16:07 it's 14:16? May 23 12:16:10 yes May 23 12:16:22 cool, gnome clock works May 23 12:16:22 (werner) thought he said he'd skip the bashing (-:C May 23 12:17:45 stream is working ? May 23 12:17:49 yes May 23 12:18:10 hm i've got black screen ;/ May 23 12:18:16 now it works May 23 12:23:10 Ainulindale, (werner) sound like your "microkernel" ? May 23 12:23:29 That's what he's saying isn't he? :-) May 23 12:29:35 :) May 23 12:30:16 (/me kicks mirko-paroli mentally) May 23 12:30:20 love all those little inside allusions ;-) May 23 12:32:28 no souns May 23 12:32:33 s/ns/nd/ May 23 12:32:34 Werner_A_ meant: no sound May 23 12:32:56 back May 23 12:33:03 Werner_A_: yeah just told ptitjes May 23 12:33:16 Setting up an extra mic as we speak May 23 12:33:36 kewl. thx :) May 23 12:33:59 DOlby May 23 12:34:08 (or stereo at least) May 23 12:34:12 can anyone tell me why I see numbers instead of my gsm network name on the gsm aplet ? May 23 12:34:18 (latest unstable) May 23 12:36:00 you can speak stereo? May 23 12:37:26 mrmoku: ping May 23 12:37:30 check your screen May 23 12:49:05 "five minutes break, and then Hackable:1" -- stephan May 23 12:52:28 guys btw, feel free to ask questions and we will restransmit to the speaker May 23 12:53:16 cutting the stream a bit May 23 12:55:06 back May 23 12:56:05 still talking about paroli? May 23 13:02:06 pyneo now May 23 13:05:32 I restarted the stream May 23 13:05:40 PyNEO incoming May 23 13:05:50 [24~[24~[24~essdosfdpids~. May 23 13:06:00 Hmpf. May 23 13:07:16 what is this? May 23 13:15:08 Louder! May 23 13:16:04 I'm trying to make that understood but I'm not good with german people it seems :-p May 23 13:16:15 (scratch german) May 23 13:17:19 :P May 23 13:17:21 buzzz May 23 13:19:27 lauter! May 23 13:19:38 * McKael thinks his laptop needs buzz-fixing too May 23 13:19:46 *agree* *can't really understand anything on stream* May 23 13:19:54 He's too far from the mic... May 23 13:20:30 ;/ May 23 13:20:31 yep May 23 13:20:53 5 minutes pause May 23 13:21:55 McKael: try the 2pass in vlc advanced settings May 23 13:22:46 tmzt: yes, already using that option :) May 23 13:23:49 Finally, the full image is there. Congratulations, mrmoku :) May 23 13:26:39 Weiss: do you already miss that: "Notes: when the decoder of command queue decodes which it is flip command, the command queue will puts the index number to the flip queue." May 23 13:27:10 DieMumiee: what about it? May 23 13:28:41 english is not my first language .. I get confused by the comments in the spec. May 23 13:29:46 i get confused as well, as a native speaker.. those docs aren't great for clear english May 23 13:30:10 after some reordering of words the stuff seems to make sense May 23 13:30:22 as i understand that particular bit, its saying that we can insert commands which will swap front/back/third buffers in a tear-free way May 23 13:30:35 and that there is some index number.. May 23 13:30:47 for the currently displayed or .. drawn buffer.. May 23 13:31:06 or the index is just the command for the flip queue.. May 23 13:31:16 guys ... cutting it again, I hope this will avoid random disconnections May 23 13:31:37 this will cause a deliberate one instaead May 23 13:31:39 i think the index is the number of the buffer to switch to May 23 13:31:51 PaulFertser, well... congrats you and Ainulindale May 23 13:32:04 the stream is back May 23 13:32:08 mrmoku? May 23 13:32:11 Weiss: but why is this info stored in a RW register May 23 13:32:28 Ainulindale, you threw me out of the buildhost again ;) May 23 13:32:35 No I didn't May 23 13:32:55 nah... something did :P May 23 13:33:03 Ainulindale, you synced? May 23 13:33:06 Yeah May 23 13:33:12 Building GTA01 now May 23 13:33:14 good May 23 13:33:18 Weiss: is it possible to use the register to force flipping the buffers, effectively bypassing the cmdq and flipq, or is this just an info for the driver.. May 23 13:35:23 DieMumiee: as i read it, that's possible only when the command queue isn't in use. when it is, you have to flip via the cmdq May 23 13:35:34 ok May 23 13:35:46 (that's from the second note for that register) May 23 13:37:02 i currently try to implement an interrupt based version of the cmdq handling code.. but integrated into the drm-tracking code, disabled by an ifdef May 23 13:37:17 cool May 23 13:37:42 may be better just to create a new branch for merging later rather than faffing with ifdegs May 23 13:37:44 drm? this will use dri interface? May 23 13:37:46 ifdefs* May 23 13:37:48 tmzt: yep May 23 13:38:00 cool, I'd love to have something like that for msm driver May 23 13:38:12 the one from google is all in userspace (and closed) May 23 13:38:16 tmzt: see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/005489.html for a recent-ish status report May 23 13:38:34 tmzt: MSM? May 23 13:38:51 qualcomm chip used in most new HTC devices May 23 13:39:00 it's based on the old ati gpu we think May 23 13:39:26 aha May 23 13:40:18 of course we have a different chip for 2d blitting so it might not be neccessary May 23 13:40:26 tmzt: are there any atempts to reverse engineer the register addresses? May 23 13:40:42 not that I know of on current chip, there was on the old one May 23 13:41:02 what do you mean by old and new? May 23 13:41:17 did they change the hardware? May 23 13:41:23 old being the ati chip, new being msm7x00[A] May 23 13:41:58 I think it was called imageon May 23 13:45:20 mwester: new GTA01 image up May 23 13:46:03 Ok. :) BTW, how did you get that to build? I can't get past vala-native on my builds anymore... May 23 13:46:16 mwester: edit vapigen/Makefile May 23 13:46:21 look for VALAC = ... May 23 13:46:25 replace ... with "valac" May 23 13:46:29 then build May 23 13:46:42 If it complains about missing valac May 23 13:46:48 er... shouldn't that be fixed in the recipe (or the patches overlay)? May 23 13:46:48 bitbake vala-bootstrap-native May 23 13:46:55 mwester: yes it should May 23 13:47:01 ok May 23 13:47:05 mickey|FSOSHRUDC and ptitjes|F9N decided to do release tarballs on changes... so that will change soon May 23 13:47:12 we can then drop vala-bootstrap-native May 23 13:47:13 ok. May 23 13:47:18 and building should be less painfull May 23 13:47:31 you don't know ptitjes enough to say so :-p May 23 13:48:11 nah... if releases a non building tarball I will spank him ;) May 23 13:48:27 sure you can May 23 13:48:33 but the current does build May 23 13:48:34 :) May 23 13:49:19 mrmoku: did you updated the recipes yet ? May 23 13:49:24 do any one install om2009 and get internet work by wifi May 23 13:49:28 ptitjes|F9N, not yet May 23 13:49:36 started though May 23 13:49:41 :) May 23 13:51:28 do any one install om2009 and get internet work by wifi ? May 23 13:51:49 ptitjes|F9N, the current does not build: May 23 13:51:59 PokerNat: only by manual manipulation (didn't test anything else :( ) May 23 13:52:09 mwester: I meant the release we made this morning May 23 13:52:13 DieMumiee: do you have access to git.openmoko.org, or your own repository anywhere to publish things via? May 23 13:52:17 http://www.freesmartphone.org/sources May 23 13:52:25 undefined symbol: vala_code_context_set_profile May 23 13:52:38 mwester: mrmoku did not remove the bootstrap recipe yet, nor update the normal native one May 23 13:52:41 how CAN I MAKE IT MANUAL ? May 23 13:52:47 mwester: we will not bootstrap anymore May 23 13:53:07 ok, I will wait for an update to the shr-unstable. May 23 13:53:08 mwester: we are now doing releases with C sources inside :) May 23 13:53:24 mwester: btw, do you use DISTRO="shr" ? May 23 13:53:54 mirko-paroli : i get wifi work and connect, the prob i dont have ping in or out and no shh in from wifi May 23 13:54:02 No, the Makefile sets it up with DISTRO="openmoko" May 23 13:54:07 mwester: change that May 23 13:54:15 mwester: rebuild libtool-native May 23 13:54:24 mwester: and this will fix your problem May 23 13:54:26 mwester: there is May 23 13:55:35 mwester, update you makefile ;) May 23 13:55:37 +r May 23 13:57:06 Gentlemen, can we add a rule to the Makefile that will compare the "version" of the shr-unstable directory so that the Makefile can flag when your conf/*.conf files might be out of date? May 23 13:58:16 mwester, how should that look like? what should it check for? May 23 13:58:58 mwester: could you please tell us how to disable g_ether warnings? May 23 13:59:03 (boot & resume) May 23 13:59:20 What warnings, good sir? Kernel messages? May 23 13:59:23 Yep May 23 13:59:25 Ainulindale, recompile Qi May 23 13:59:33 Ainulindale, we would have to patch the kernel. May 23 13:59:33 What? May 23 13:59:35 and fix the bootparms in there I think May 23 13:59:41 I have loglevel 0 May 23 14:00:04 loglevel 0 (with uboot) works perfectly here; there is no noise from g_ether. May 23 14:00:25 Ok then it's weird :-) May 23 14:01:31 Ainulindale: Qi doesn't support /boot/append-GTA02 file on NAND, only on SD May 23 14:01:46 dos1, not true May 23 14:02:02 I reflashed the new unstable to flash and had a bootsplash... soo May 23 14:02:08 mrmoku: hmm... so it supports, but it doesn't work? May 23 14:02:09 ;x May 23 14:02:19 hmm May 23 14:02:27 maybe i have some old Qi ;P May 23 14:03:15 now it's onen talking about openBmap? May 23 14:03:42 dos1, no, alphaone is talking about GPS May 23 14:03:53 oh May 23 14:03:54 ok May 23 14:03:54 ;) May 23 14:04:01 dos1: Don't you recognize him from the faggot look? May 23 14:04:01 i've just connected May 23 14:04:17 Ainulindale: i see only pixels on his face :D May 23 14:04:27 Well he's a bit blurry that's for suure May 23 14:05:31 mrmoku: we really should disable pulseaudio support May 23 14:05:34 everywhre May 23 14:05:35 +e May 23 14:05:55 and patch navit to not install the speech-dispatcher bullshit ;) May 23 14:06:10 speech-dispatcher wouldn't hurt if not compiled against pulseaudio May 23 14:06:13 I did the hack once May 23 14:06:13 dos1: Qi can't read any kernel parameters from NAND. May 23 14:06:22 mrmoku: ^^^ May 23 14:06:25 the problem is with pulseaudio May 23 14:06:56 alphaone is with debian shirt? May 23 14:06:58 hmm... wondering why I have a boot splash then... May 23 14:07:04 the other one May 23 14:07:15 mickey|FSOSHRUDC: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/5413625.txt May 23 14:07:15 so who is with debian shirt? May 23 14:07:26 (libeflvala) May 23 14:07:26 (and i can't see alphaone - i see only his arm :P) May 23 14:07:36 dos1: shoragan May 23 14:07:53 ok May 23 14:08:05 so i can watch it now in peace ;D May 23 14:08:39 Weiss: not sure about git.openmoko.org.. but its not in shape for yet May 23 14:09:26 Ainulindale: strange. didn't touch that for quite a while. need to check locally first May 23 14:09:57 where is crt1.o coming from anyway? May 23 14:13:56 Ok... glibc May 23 14:15:46 mickey|FSOSHRUDC: produced testeina.c is empty May 23 14:16:49 crt1.o from glibc?! I always thought it from gcc May 23 14:17:09 * mrmoku thinks gcc too May 23 14:17:13 query interface simillar to opimd's one May 23 14:17:19 well I just asked to equery May 23 14:17:36 moriquendi ~ # equery b crt1.o * Searching for crt1.o ... May 23 14:17:36 sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1 (/usr/lib32/crt1.o) May 23 14:17:36 sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1 (/usr/lib64/crt1.o) May 23 14:17:54 can someone ask: when we can expect olocationd? ;) May 23 14:17:55 But anyway ld can't link because produced c file is empty May 23 14:19:26 the stream didn't cut this time, right ? :) May 23 14:19:49 cutting it May 23 14:20:40 what's next? May 23 14:21:04 (16.19.25) Deubeuliou: the stream didn't cut this time, right ? :) <-- ? May 23 14:21:19 ^^ the SHRFSOSHUDR conference is online streamed? May 23 14:21:38 yes ! May 23 14:21:55 url? May 23 14:22:05 http://corrina.bearstech.com:1234 May 23 14:22:09 use vlc May 23 14:22:11 if you can May 23 14:22:18 or mplayer May 23 14:22:22 (and preferably the command line) May 23 14:22:37 yeah, it'll work but you''l have to wait for a minute or so May 23 14:23:28 at the end of the last one, audio and video seemed very unsynchronized (at least here). about a minute apart. (mplayer) May 23 14:24:29 the audio breaks in every second or so May 23 14:24:32 it is normal? May 23 14:24:40 mplayer is crap for streaming May 23 14:24:42 just try vlc May 23 14:24:48 it is a lot more stabe May 23 14:24:48 for me everything works May 23 14:24:49 Ainu May 23 14:24:50 ;D May 23 14:24:58 ok May 23 14:25:02 (and usually I only use mplayer :)) May 23 14:25:29 apt-get install vlc-nox May 23 14:25:30 ptitjes with mac... May 23 14:25:31 :D May 23 14:25:47 so... no more talks? May 23 14:25:50 hey May 23 14:26:02 how can I force skip md5sum check in opkg? May 23 14:26:08 hackable:1 coming May 23 14:26:10 is there somewhere an archive? May 23 14:26:23 im curious about mirko's talk May 23 14:26:37 khiraly1: there will be archive May 23 14:26:56 ok, doing opkg update, opkg upgrade now, when noone is talking :D May 23 14:27:11 oh my dear May 23 14:27:12 TAsn: i'm also interested in that May 23 14:27:21 vlc displays ascii art as a video May 23 14:27:41 khiraly1: :) May 23 14:27:45 nice,eh ? May 23 14:27:50 Zorkman, I think you can generally edit the lists got from server May 23 14:27:54 don't use vlc-nox May 23 14:27:56 though I can't remember where they are save at. May 23 14:27:57 just use vlc May 23 14:29:15 ok, playing May 23 14:29:26 acer empowering people May 23 14:29:33 somebody say hello May 23 14:30:02 there is a suchen... text at the bottom right corner May 23 14:30:03 go to advanced settings and click on 2pass May 23 14:30:04 doh May 23 14:32:07 tmzt: cant find it May 23 14:32:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r72b63f3d010e 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: fsodevice: alsa_audio: play and stop works May 23 14:32:30 mickey|FSOSHRUDC, great! :) (last commit) May 23 14:32:36 tools->settings-> May 23 14:32:38 ? May 23 14:33:02 getting there with fsodeviced May 23 14:34:20 has anyone looked at the nokia dbus api's? is it similar to fso? May 23 14:34:44 mickey|FSOSHRUDC, is there a way to run parts of vala-fso and parts of python-fso together? May 23 14:36:07 dns53: ya, similar yet so different May 23 14:36:21 TAsn: of course. we will replace python-fso subsystem by subsystem May 23 14:36:33 cool :) May 23 14:36:56 who is this guy at the fron of camera? May 23 14:37:38 he will introduce himself :) May 23 14:37:48 ptitjes|F9N: not that one;) May 23 14:37:59 raster, here? May 23 14:38:06 pierre pronchery prolly :p May 23 14:38:10 raster, I just checked commit 40728 May 23 14:38:13 works like a charm... May 23 14:38:21 Piere Pronchery (aka khorben) from Bearstech May 23 14:38:24 someone broke it along the way. May 23 14:38:27 TAsn, raster went out with stefan to get some meat for the barbequeue :P May 23 14:38:34 oh :) May 23 14:38:42 mrmoku, beat him with a stick when he's back, ok? May 23 14:39:08 mrmoku, btw, hows the regeneration of the whole repos is doing? May 23 14:39:49 running May 23 14:41:21 Images are there I'm bitbaking specific packages as libeflvala won't build May 23 14:41:57 Ainulindale, :) May 23 14:42:07 anyhow, please tell raster I was looking for him May 23 14:42:09 when you see him. May 23 14:42:16 he's buying meat May 23 14:42:27 Ainulindale, I know. May 23 14:43:21 the picture is really dark May 23 14:44:25 hmm, vlc does not have button like in mplayer? (0,1,2,3,4, etc for picture enhancing) May 23 14:44:27 ? May 23 14:49:46 mrmoku: laptop: autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.63 May 23 14:49:56 buildhost: autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61 May 23 14:50:23 hmmm May 23 14:56:28 automake (GNU automake) 1.10.2 May 23 14:56:30 laptop May 23 14:56:36 s/.2// buildhost May 23 14:58:41 dos11: I'm camery-shy May 23 14:58:46 camera even :-) May 23 14:59:06 alphaone: hehe ;) May 23 15:00:07 I'm starting to like Bearstech :P May 23 15:00:09 alphaone: i'm sure you'll look fine in ascii-mode ;-) May 23 15:00:16 a pity they are french May 23 15:00:22 i bought two FR's at bearstech May 23 15:00:22 (far away) May 23 15:00:22 Zorkman: Hehe May 23 15:01:58 who's the guy actually speeking on the stream? May 23 15:02:32 morphis: Piere Pronchery May 23 15:02:35 guy from bearstech May 23 15:04:09 ah ok May 23 15:04:25 mrmoku: aclocal.in patch for automake is wrong May 23 15:04:28 lacks a -w May 23 15:04:47 i would buy that DPF :) May 23 15:05:10 Now it doesn't find autoreconf >2.58 May 23 15:05:44 dos1: thinkgeek have a linux-based as well May 23 15:05:55 if it would be with touch screen... ;> May 23 15:06:32 wpwrak: hmm, i will look at it May 23 15:06:37 didn't know May 23 15:06:38 i'd only buy one if it uses the glamo May 23 15:06:49 (or your own phone ! hee hee :) May 23 15:07:02 hehe May 23 15:07:10 dos1, and give it to your grandpa? :P May 23 15:07:21 sicu: yeah, keeps the images from changing too quickly so that they blur May 23 15:07:32 :D May 23 15:07:41 mrmoku: when it's hackable, it can be used for interesting purposes by me ;) May 23 15:07:56 wpwrak ;) May 23 15:08:19 * mrmoku imagines a 17" TFT on the wall running shr-settings ;) May 23 15:08:28 ;D May 23 15:08:30 Automake went through configure. May 23 15:09:27 (and built in the end) May 23 15:10:32 TAsn, raster is back ;) May 23 15:10:51 (as ugly as ever) May 23 15:10:58 I hope your grandpa's home will be well protected, else I could push some hot pictures through ssh ;) May 23 15:11:05 guys any questions ? May 23 15:11:41 ptitjes|F9N: when do we eat? May 23 15:11:50 pffff May 23 15:12:03 Ask your questions yourself as you are here!! May 23 15:12:08 ;D May 23 15:12:13 mrmoku: not really May 23 15:12:33 raster: are you on FSOSHRUDCON? May 23 15:12:36 that's it for this "morning" May 23 15:12:42 TAsn, missed your chance... we're out for bbq now :P May 23 15:12:44 yes he is May 23 15:12:59 he's hiding that May 23 15:13:01 dos1: yup... about to bbq May 23 15:13:02 but he is May 23 15:13:06 already eating May 23 15:13:09 ;D May 23 15:13:10 is he in charge of the bbq? May 23 15:13:18 hehe May 23 15:13:22 lazy bastards :-) May 23 15:13:26 oh please no ! he will burn us all May 23 15:13:36 aww, i'm getting hungry now :/ May 23 15:13:40 héhéhé May 23 15:13:40 * dos1 too May 23 15:13:53 My master is away May 23 15:14:01 This computer is free!!! May 23 15:14:08 :D May 23 15:14:14 free software, free hardware :P May 23 15:14:19 what more do you want? May 23 15:16:37 ok, so what's on the agenda after the bbq? any more streaming happening today? May 23 15:16:49 md2k7: free beer ! :) May 23 15:16:50 tracfeed: Ticket #473 (GPRS settings pickle file doesn't get created after successful connect ...) closed May 23 15:19:49 tracfeed: Ticket #476 (Cannot create contact starting with *) updated May 23 15:21:09 Milestone milestone5.5 6 weeks late (04/15/09) May 23 15:21:38 mickey|FSOSHRUDC: when ms5.5 is supposed to be reached? May 23 15:31:04 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-overlay * r7820c329855a 10/openembedded/recipes/shr/shr-splash_git.bb: shr-splash: fix installing initscript May 23 15:37:04 dos1: hopefully soon May 23 15:37:15 huhu May 23 15:37:15 dos1: we don't have time to test this weekend May 23 15:37:30 any stream available? (with interesting stuff to watch)? May 23 15:37:44 bumbl: too late May 23 15:37:54 ;( May 23 15:38:07 bumbl: but it will be downloadable May 23 15:38:14 'kay May 23 15:38:19 bumbl: and it was interesting ;) (at last what i saw) May 23 15:39:46 hmm it seems my laptop's graka goes mad again May 23 15:39:49 ;( May 23 15:41:45 Toaster`: where are you when you are not here? :P May 23 15:41:52 you broke shr-settings ;x May 23 15:43:28 tut tut nasty programmer go and fix your code May 23 15:44:36 dos1: what interesting stuff was happening? May 23 15:45:54 spaetz: mickey's presentation about open devices and FSO May 23 15:46:26 spaetz: then Ainu's talk about SHR and ophonekitd architecture May 23 15:46:31 spaetz: then i had to go :( May 23 15:46:47 spaetz: when i returned, alphaone and shoragan were talking about olocationd May 23 15:47:07 spaetz: and after that talk about hackable:1 May 23 15:47:13 and hackable:Devices May 23 15:47:23 what were when i wasn't online? May 23 15:50:05 ok, thanks May 23 15:50:10 pyneo May 23 15:50:11 paroli May 23 15:50:52 mmh, would be interesting to learn about these. Too many distros live in too many independent parallel universes May 23 15:51:02 which donßt touch/overlap... May 23 15:51:19 mickey|FSOSHRUDC: aren't you out for the bbq yet? OUT!!! May 23 15:51:35 :) May 23 15:51:47 mickey|FSOSHRUDC is living on community support from IRC :) May 23 15:52:17 good idea, i'm hungry May 23 15:52:40 well... May 23 15:52:40 md2k7: you think, that's why he can't afford any meat? ;) May 23 15:52:50 so i have to wait for that talks (pyneo and paroli) May 23 15:52:56 hmm, i should improvise one her and send you guys a livestream of some _real_ meat ;-) May 23 15:53:10 s/her/here/ May 23 15:53:10 wpwrak meant: hmm, i should improvise one here and send you guys a livestream of some _real_ meat ;-) May 23 15:53:13 that was talks in which i was the most interested :/ May 23 15:53:34 meat through IRC? most likely only minced meat May 23 15:53:42 MTU=meat transfer unit May 23 15:54:40 spaetz: we should tap the vast expertise of the porn industry in the domain of accessing meat over the internet :) May 23 15:55:14 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * r2e12c9ab98fb 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_currentprofile.py: [CurrentProfile] fix sid handling May 23 15:55:23 bumbl: i fixed what he broke. it was one line forgotten ;) May 23 15:57:36 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-settings * r29cc9e802460 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_currentprofile.py: [CurrentProfile] increase sid duration from 3 to 60 seconds (as we have Stop button now) May 23 16:00:41 dos1: well then May 23 16:00:47 get a cookie May 23 16:03:09 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) updated May 23 16:21:34 last tracfeed May 23 16:36:09 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) updated May 23 16:56:17 is there a framework setting to not automatically pop up the sms show dialog on receipt of an inbound sms? May 23 16:58:24 Blu3: that's surely not frameworkd that shows the popup? May 23 16:59:21 who registers the callback to pop up the message? May 23 17:03:07 Blu3: ophonekitd, and atm it is libframeworkd-phonegui-efl which displays message May 23 17:03:20 ok May 23 17:03:28 s/fr/oph/ then :) May 23 17:04:02 it isn't now May 23 17:04:08 there is trac ticket for that May 23 17:04:12 ok May 23 17:04:31 i'd like to register my own sms reader callback for that May 23 17:12:17 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) updated May 23 17:37:36 mrmoku|away, where's raster?! :{ May 23 17:37:37 tracfeed: Ticket #477 (opkg update && opkg upgrade error edbus-ehal) created May 23 17:40:25 tracfeed: Ticket #477 (opkg update && opkg upgrade error edbus-ehal) closed May 23 17:41:32 hm.. what's the diff between moko8 and moko11 (gsm firmware) May 23 17:41:50 TAsn: did you find the changelog? May 23 17:42:37 no, I want to know where to look... :) May 23 17:42:39 tracfeed: Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) updated May 23 17:42:42 changelog is in the wiki? May 23 17:44:04 only found in the wiki something that says May 23 17:44:11 TAsn: search for 'AT+CSIM no longer blocks GSM APDUs' May 23 17:44:19 "a couple of bigfixes, for instance #666 and what you just wrote May 23 17:44:28 lindi-, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#Moko11 May 23 17:44:28 ? May 23 17:44:56 no such thing in the wiki May 23 18:09:51 dos1, I need your opinion, I'm changing the text on the "speaker" button to "Handset", after speaker is set, what do you think, do I need to ask in ML? May 23 18:10:05 TAsn: i think no :P May 23 18:10:16 do that before Ainulindale will come May 23 18:10:16 dos1, I'm scared... *wink* May 23 18:10:17 :D May 23 18:10:28 hehe, thank god they went BBQing :) May 23 18:12:21 man, that code was ugly May 23 18:12:35 before I start cursing the guy who wrote it May 23 18:12:41 who wrote phonegui-efl? May 23 18:12:54 TAsn: I think quickdev May 23 18:13:05 ok, so he's not here May 23 18:13:10 MAN, THAT CODE WAS UGLY! May 23 18:13:11 ;) May 23 18:13:18 *is* May 23 18:13:18 ~seen quickdev May 23 18:13:18 quickdev was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 87d 3h 37m 58s ago, saying: 'and for you?'. May 23 18:13:24 haven't finished fixing it yet May 23 18:13:30 dos1, I bet someone saw the code May 23 18:13:40 and threatened quickdev never to return :) May 23 18:13:52 :) May 23 18:13:57 it is so ugly? May 23 18:14:05 nah May 23 18:14:14 though it has a couplef of weakspots May 23 18:14:29 e.g.? May 23 18:14:45 TAsn: quickdev knowed that -efl isn't finished May 23 18:14:57 TAsn: but he didn't finish it... because he disapeared :x May 23 18:15:01 isn't finished? May 23 18:15:06 what's there is broken :) May 23 18:15:46 dos1: somebody know what's up with him? May 23 18:15:47 dos1: is http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/495f492a9fb9e304249fa1d900f3ea7e.png going to be default shr-settings? (top-bar with all the catagories in it) May 23 18:16:35 Zorkman: it's Toaster`'s shr-settings-toolbar (you can get it from playground in git repo) May 23 18:17:36 dos1: yeah i know, but have no FR atm (it's being debuzzed), but was just wondering if it would be standard in the future (don't know if it's better or not, haven't been able to play with it due to no-fr-ness) May 23 18:18:16 Zorkman: dunno. if people will say it's better, i will consider that :P May 23 18:19:07 meh, not very high priority to me :) May 23 18:19:24 dos1: are you planning to include the pager widget some day? May 23 18:19:47 i'll just mumble some voodoo spells to make your opimd integration and a2dp work go faster :) May 23 18:20:04 morphis: it's included now in -toolbar version May 23 18:20:24 morphis: could you test, if InnerWindow is working in python-elementary? May 23 18:20:25 tracfeed: Ticket #435 (The default locale is again POSIX and not en_US.utf8) reopened May 23 18:20:29 and provide us some test code? May 23 18:22:36 tracfeed: Ticket #435 (The default locale is again POSIX and not en_US.utf8) updated  || Ticket #435 (The default locale is again POSIX and not en_US.utf8) updated  || Ticket #474 (cannot reply sms in native language) closed May 23 18:24:22 dos1, thanks. :) May 23 18:24:43 btw, dos1 it is a blocker for unicode speakers... May 23 18:25:07 TAsn: but now it's not blocker, as you can workaround it using GUI May 23 18:25:16 how? May 23 18:25:22 TAsn: but i still agree - it should be fixed in first place :P May 23 18:25:28 oh, right, only on new-message reply May 23 18:25:30 TAsn: reply with shr-messages May 23 18:25:34 okie yeah. May 23 18:25:37 it's not a blocker. May 23 18:25:40 just annoying. May 23 18:25:40 ;) May 23 18:25:44 I agree. May 23 18:26:02 TAsn: en_US.UTF-8 or en_GB.UTF-8 is now default? May 23 18:26:29 no May 23 18:26:33 I think POSIX is. May 23 18:26:43 POSIX.UTF-8? May 23 18:26:46 no May 23 18:26:48 :P May 23 18:26:50 posix without utf-8 May 23 18:26:55 sec, let my verify May 23 18:26:59 default in Illume May 23 18:27:05 i mean that working UTF-8 lang :P May 23 18:27:11 oh, no idea May 23 18:27:18 how do I check the illume config? May 23 18:27:27 http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/435#comment:3 May 23 18:27:29 err May 23 18:27:30 anyhow, it should just be set globally, maybe /etc/profile? May 23 18:27:34 Configuring glibc-binary-localedata-en-gb May 23 18:27:40 so en_GB.UTF-8 May 23 18:27:44 TAsn: yep, that's what i want to do now May 23 18:27:45 :P May 23 18:27:52 that's why i asked for that working locale May 23 18:28:48 I have no idea what you are talking about. May 23 18:28:54 so I'll just nod my head. May 23 18:32:13 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-overlay * r7828c859e171 10/openembedded/recipes/images/shr-image.inc: shr-image.inc: set up UTF-8 locale in /etc/profile May 23 18:32:28 TAsn: that's what i was talking :P May 23 18:32:34 +about May 23 18:32:42 :) May 23 18:32:50 dos1, I hope you didn't sec LC_ALL May 23 18:33:03 why not? May 23 18:33:05 only LANG? May 23 18:33:08 I don't remember why though I remember there is a reason why you should set everyone by hand May 23 18:33:10 dos1, change all May 23 18:33:16 except LC_ALL May 23 18:33:23 there was a reason, not sure why though May 23 18:33:23 hmm May 23 18:33:23 :) May 23 18:33:40 git diff: May 23 18:33:40 + echo "# set your locale here:" >> ./etc/profile May 23 18:33:40 + echo "export LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8" >> ./etc/profile May 23 18:33:40 + echo "export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8" >> ./etc/profile May 23 18:33:45 dos1, just write locale in terminal and I think you'll have everything formatted. May 23 18:33:54 yep, i know May 23 18:33:56 dos1, drop LC_ALL and change all the rest. May 23 18:33:58 ;) May 23 18:34:14 find that reason :x May 23 18:34:17 then i will change :> May 23 18:35:31 okie. ;) May 23 18:35:35 fair enough. May 23 18:38:41 tracfeed: Ticket #435 (The default locale is again POSIX and not en_US.utf8) closed May 23 18:51:37 whaat is F9N? May 23 18:53:51 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4fad320422f2 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel_input/plugin.vala: fsodevice: kernel_input: skip input fds in aggregate, if you can't open May 23 18:54:21 bbq ended? :D May 23 18:54:28 dos1, yep) May 23 18:54:31 dos1, yep :) May 23 18:54:44 dos1: yep! May 23 18:54:55 so now workshops? or what? May 23 18:55:08 two parallel tracks now May 23 18:55:15 a) hacking workshop May 23 18:55:18 TAsn, raster is still outside though... discussing with PaulFertser about comments in config files ;) May 23 18:55:21 b) drinking workshop May 23 18:55:29 ;) May 23 18:55:35 and c) combine them :P May 23 18:55:40 mrmoku, anything interesting? :) May 23 18:55:41 heh May 23 18:55:48 hacking almost always goes in parallel with drinking :D May 23 18:55:52 well, let him know I'm here. May 23 18:55:55 waiting. May 23 18:56:14 TAsn, yep... Ainulindale and me won playing kicker against ptitjes|F9N and khorben :P May 23 18:56:25 kicker? May 23 18:56:28 what's that? May 23 18:56:37 table soccer... don't know how you call it May 23 18:56:49 oh :) May 23 18:56:56 here we call it "table soccer" May 23 18:56:56 ;) May 23 18:57:05 anyhow, I rock at this game May 23 18:57:06 TAsn, ahh... and finally ... buzz RIP :D May 23 18:57:12 really? :) May 23 18:57:13 sweet! May 23 18:57:21 I have no buzzing May 23 18:57:23 do you have battery from Om? :P May 23 18:57:25 yep, alphaone did a good job May 23 18:57:26 but cool for you. May 23 18:57:34 dos1, me? May 23 18:57:43 no, guys at FSOSHRUDCON May 23 18:57:47 oh. ;) May 23 18:58:55 Glad to hear it May 23 18:59:03 TAsn, ahh, no :( May 23 19:00:09 later on... we will do a live stream from Stefan in the sauna :P May 23 19:00:17 SHR: 03tom 07shr * r40c966184863 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/src/view/ (4 files): cleaned the mess in the call views, now the speaker button toggles from 'Speaker' to 'Handset' and the keypad button from 'Keypad' to 'Hide Keypad' May 23 19:00:21 mrmoku, please rebuild phonegui-efl :) May 23 19:00:29 finally! May 23 19:00:35 TAsn, ok May 23 19:00:37 :) May 23 19:00:42 also cleaned the code May 23 19:00:44 mrmoku: and shr-settings May 23 19:01:05 mrmoku, have you touched the the call views in efl2? May 23 19:01:08 ok May 23 19:01:11 or should I patch that as well? May 23 19:01:20 (I mean, it's the same and I can just blindly patch it) May 23 19:01:27 TAsn, no, don't think so... always wanted, but did not come around May 23 19:01:31 cool May 23 19:01:33 patching this. May 23 19:01:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re1a3a7402135 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_powersupply/plugin.vala: fsodevice: kernel26_powersupply: don't crash if we can't open powersupply nodes May 23 19:02:57 so May 23 19:03:21 mickey|F9N is hacking, mrmoku is hacking and drinking, and anyone else is drinking? :D May 23 19:03:53 dos1: yeah this looks like it :) May 23 19:03:53 dos1: always :) May 23 19:05:11 stefan_schmidt ist doing fitness and saunaing May 23 19:09:21 mrmoku, let's just hope it's ok May 23 19:09:25 SHR: 03tom 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r975504bc6570 10/src/view/ (4 files): cleaned the mess in the call views, now the speaker button toggles from 'Speaker' to 'Handset' and the keypad button from 'Keypad' to 'Hide Keypad' - was blindly patched, just copied from phonegui-efl May 23 19:09:25 patched efl2 as well. May 23 19:10:57 dos1, yeah... ptitjes|F9N is just drinking ;) May 23 19:12:56 TAsn: while you patch, care to rename 'release' to 'reject' in inccoming call view? May 23 19:13:11 mail list was in favor May 23 19:13:13 spaetz: i can do that May 23 19:13:30 * dos1 wants to bump his CIA stats :P May 23 19:15:22 :) May 23 19:15:26 dos1, DO IT! :) May 23 19:15:52 col, thanls. efl2 too please :-) May 23 19:15:57 spaetz: and when call is active, then it' May 23 19:16:04 +s still "Release", yep? May 23 19:16:08 or also reject? May 23 19:16:11 no May 23 19:16:13 not reject May 23 19:16:18 leave it release May 23 19:16:29 you can't reject after you already accepted, duh. :) May 23 19:16:35 TAsn: ok. i just wanted confirmation, as i'm not english guru ;) May 23 19:16:45 me neither May 23 19:16:51 :) May 23 19:17:13 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr * rbd3e3ab87cd9 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/src/view/call-incoming-view.c: libframeworkd-phonegui-efl: change Release to Reject in incoming call view May 23 19:17:17 ptitjes|F9N, should i output errors in the binding tool with debug or info? May 23 19:17:18 hangup! May 23 19:17:46 and... btw. I won't rebuilt that damn thing every five minutes, ok ;) May 23 19:18:40 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 * r0a9ad8688c9a 10/src/view/call-incoming-view.c: change Release to Reject in incoming call view May 23 19:21:43 hehe. May 23 19:30:01 i'm for 'hang up' when we have an active call... May 23 19:30:34 but that's not so critical May 23 19:30:51 * dos1 is evil May 23 19:31:00 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr * r53758941255c 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/src/util/helper.c: libframeworkd-phonegui-efl: allow using * and # in phone numbers. Should fix #476 May 23 19:31:07 :> May 23 19:31:08 i want green/red phone receiver icons anyway May 23 19:31:12 so ... no stream of the dinner talk, it seems ? May 23 19:31:31 pity. "future of an open phone" would have been *very* interesting :) May 23 19:31:46 and i want bigger buttons on the incoming call May 23 19:32:19 buttons vore 'reject''accept' should coverv2/3 of screen then May 23 19:32:31 for easy finger access May 23 19:32:47 sorry for typos May 23 19:33:58 20:10:00 < TAsn> dos1, I need your opinion, I'm changing the text on the "speaker" button to "Handset", after speaker is set, what do you think, do I need to ask in ML? May 23 19:34:04 TAsn: No you don't May 23 19:34:07 TAsn: (need to) May 23 19:34:11 You're adding a feature May 23 19:34:29 okie. May 23 19:34:29 Modification or destruction has to be "approved" if it has a visible impact May 23 19:35:01 :) May 23 19:35:07 hmm May 23 19:35:30 there's gotta be something wrong with yesterday/last night's update and the battery charging May 23 19:35:54 new image from today Blu3 May 23 19:36:00 check it, flash it, love it May 23 19:36:04 the LED shows blue, but the battery icon has sat at 32% since last night May 23 19:36:13 flashing is m$ May 23 19:36:33 i like keeping my settings May 23 19:38:23 Blu3: then solve problems. ATM we don't support upgrade path May 23 19:38:36 i do solve problems May 23 19:38:55 that's problem with e using HAL to indicate battery May 23 19:38:57 if you don't support upgrades, then delete all the packages and opkg May 23 19:38:57 not SHR May 23 19:39:11 Blu3: we considered deleting "upgrade" option from opkg :P May 23 19:39:17 Blu3: but we will support soon May 23 19:39:44 it's nonsense to download and reflash 100M when a tiny K or two of change is all that is needed May 23 19:39:51 Blu3: well if you have a better idea you might as well ask for commit rights May 23 19:40:09 Blu3: sometimes that's not tiny change May 23 19:40:21 one of these days i will May 23 19:40:27 and in SHR that's more often than sometimes May 23 19:40:32 :P May 23 19:40:49 it's still nowhere near an entire image May 23 19:40:56 (i'm not reflashing, only upgrading with my daily system) May 23 19:41:15 (but i'm not complaining everywhere when something doesn't work) May 23 19:41:21 upgrading is not allowed. reflash! May 23 19:41:30 who is complaining? May 23 19:41:31 only when that thing doesn't work with fresh image too May 23 19:41:32 :P May 23 19:41:42 Well it's easier to whine than help that's for sure May 23 19:41:48 who is whining? May 23 19:54:59 tracfeed: Ticket #476 (Cannot create contact starting with *) closed May 23 19:59:49 mwester? May 23 20:01:05 He's not here. He was showing signs of "whining" so he got sentenced to two days of hard labor in the garden with a shovel. I can take a message for him, though, if you wish. May 23 20:01:21 :-) May 23 20:01:30 mwester: well about those kernel messages May 23 20:01:46 Flashed latest, with qi and all, and I still have g_ether and FAT bogus number (running on flash) May 23 20:01:50 What are my options? May 23 20:01:54 (just wondering) May 23 20:03:36 That's really quite mysterious. loglevel=0 is persistent; it cannot exist just for one module and not the rest of the kernel. What is the content of /proc/cmdline? May 23 20:04:41 weirdly enough, loglevel=4 May 23 20:05:04 Ainulindale: are you pressing power button long or short? May 23 20:05:20 reset it with dmesg May 23 20:05:32 dos1: short of course May 23 20:08:00 Ainulindale: great boot message (in the new image) :-) May 23 20:08:23 thank dos1 May 23 20:08:38 hmm, this is odd. the pdu 7 bit coding has already been converted back to 8bit when the sms message gets stored right? in the sms['data'] field? May 23 20:08:54 morphis: is it DON'T PANIC or just SHR? May 23 20:09:03 dos1: DON'T PANIC May 23 20:09:15 that's odd May 23 20:09:23 is there even one with only SHR? May 23 20:09:35 default one should be -simple (that's in conf files) May 23 20:09:43 morphis: yep, shr-splash-theme-simple May 23 20:09:45 maybe DON'T PANIC for unstable and SHR for stable May 23 20:10:03 hm, I took the latest image May 23 20:14:02 TAsn, dos1, rebuild now? May 23 20:14:09 mrmoku, why not. ;) May 23 20:14:19 mrmoku, just add a cron-job May 23 20:14:20 :) May 23 20:14:22 mrmoku: i think yes ;) May 23 20:14:30 TAsn, because you might commit some broken stuff? :P May 23 20:14:41 mrmoku, I usually do :) May 23 20:14:49 but I fix it quick May 23 20:14:52 so it's usually ok May 23 20:14:53 :) May 23 20:16:06 dos1, May 23 20:16:10 if I want to try out opimd May 23 20:16:18 I just install libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2? May 23 20:16:31 or is there anything more left to do? May 23 20:16:37 then you'll try libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2, not opimd :> May 23 20:16:40 but yes May 23 20:16:49 efl2 uses opimd... doesn't it? ;) May 23 20:16:54 and then only change /etc/frameworkd-phonegui.conf May 23 20:16:59 from to? May 23 20:16:59 TAsn: only for contacts May 23 20:17:05 and it like to segfault May 23 20:17:09 TAsn: library, just add 2 :P May 23 20:17:13 okie ;) May 23 20:17:18 dos1, it's not good? May 23 20:21:48 TAsn, no.... written by a whimp :P May 23 20:27:38 .../compiler/.libs/lt-valac: undefined symbol: vala_code_context_set_profile May 23 20:27:42 :( May 23 20:27:50 (But I am _not_ whining.) May 23 20:33:00 * mrmoku thinks to have already seen that error :;P May 23 20:58:07 why echo "export LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8" >> ./etc/profile was not en_US.UTF-8 for default ? May 23 21:16:59 mwester: edit vapigen/Makefile, set VALAC to "valac" May 23 21:17:02 then rebuild May 23 21:17:11 (assuming you have vala-bootstrap-native) May 23 21:26:27 hi, is it normal that nmap doesn't want to work in SHR? I've "Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device" ...is it the kernel configuration? May 23 21:36:32 mwester: before that you should switch DISTRO to "shr". May 23 21:40:38 PaulFertser, I did. May 23 21:41:06 I keep hoping that someone will fix the broken recipe. How can the builds actually be working on the build host? May 23 21:43:38 mwester: they don't ;) May 23 21:44:59 mwester: the problem with vala-native is somewhat misterious. On my laptop recent libtool generates a proper wrapper that is calling the right valac with the right libs. On the buildhost and mrmoku's system valac wrapper is created in a wrong way, calling recent valac with the old libs, so it fails. May 23 21:47:16 * von_fritz checks if it's true May 23 21:48:38 mwester: could you please tell me how SHR uses different macs for host and device usb interfaces? May 23 21:48:49 mwester: should qi be fixed really? May 23 21:51:52 Yes, qi should be fixed. May 23 21:52:41 g_ether emulates a hardware device that presents two end-points, one to each of a pair of hosts. The two MAC addresses are one for each host. May 23 21:52:58 mwester: could you probably tell me how exactly? Are there two addresses in fact on the factory partition? Or where do you get the second mac from? May 23 21:53:28 mwester, mickey + ptitjes|F9N + me are discussing it right now :) May 23 21:53:55 There is a single mac address in the factory partition, according to the kernel or hardware ML archives a pair are actually assigned to each FR -- the one in the factory partition and the next in sequence. May 23 21:54:20 This information was, IIRC, a conversation between Werner, Andy, and Wolfgang May 23 21:54:37 mwester: ok, thanks a lot :) May 23 21:55:10 Confirmed by someone else (credited in the original email I sent), if you have the same addr on each end, you will get the same IPv6 addr assigned -- which breaks things, and also apparently it fails on OS-X. May 23 21:55:15 mwester: (fix qi) agreed May 23 21:55:26 There he is! :) May 23 21:55:32 ;-) May 23 21:56:24 * mwester goes back to his garden for more hard labor for a while. :( May 23 21:56:40 wpwrak: which one is which? May 23 21:56:47 mwester: i actually don't know what exactly happens with the same MAC. but i expected it to a potential source of trouble. andy on the other hand interpreted the absence of trouble as a reason not to change qi. ymmv :) May 23 21:57:03 PaulFertser: your choice :) both are globally unique May 23 21:57:25 mwester: which one is which in SHR now? May 23 21:59:34 PaulFertser, I don't recall which way 'round it was done -- you'll have to read the g_ether.sh startup script to see. But it should be consistent, otherwise those who have been enjoying a stable ethN interface on the host will suddenly see yet another ethM interface appear ;) May 23 21:59:59 The g_ether.sh script was written to accomodate a fixed qi... May 23 22:00:05 ptitjes|F9N, http://pastebin.com/f6cb6acd6 May 23 22:00:25 it was a typo. but how did it work before May 23 22:01:55 mwester: ok, will do. May 23 22:03:30 TAsn, just found a nice link to some kernel CodingStyle with vim document May 23 22:03:33 http://www.jukie.net/~bart/blog/20070209172606 May 23 22:11:36 tracfeed: Ticket #478 (Upgrade Python 1.6.1 to 1.6.2 (unstable and testing)) created May 23 22:38:56 wpwrak: how does it make any sense to assign an odd factory MAC? It makes it harder to increment it. Is it really intended? I'll send a patch doing that then but i'm not sure that's what is bootloader supposed to do. May 23 22:42:04 PaulFertser: the MACs are assigned in blocks of three, two for EoUSB, the other (potentially) for BT May 23 22:44:27 PaulFertser: also, you're supposed to use at least 90% of your MACs before you can request new ones. since we were planning to flood the world with neos, we had to consider this :) May 23 22:46:25 mwester: ping May 23 22:47:39 is there online somewhere todays talk? May 23 22:48:58 khiraly1: I'll enhance and adjust audio delay this week and we will then publish them May 23 22:52:09 ptitjes|F9N: make subtitles too;) May 23 23:04:07 heh May 23 23:04:23 khiraly1: you'll manage to provide srt files :) May 23 23:06:31 freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * rb72f72181902 10/src/Makefile.am: May 23 23:06:31 freesmartphone.org: Fix --gir option according to new valac version May 23 23:06:31 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes May 23 23:06:31 freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07libfso-glib * r71012b64efc3 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git@git.freesmartphone.org:libfso-glib May 23 23:07:11 SHR: 03ptitjes 07libmodulo * re4e829da891b 10/ (samples/Makefile.am src/Makefile.am): Fix --gir option according to new valac version May 23 23:07:19 SHR: 03ptitjes 07ophonekitd * r813b1c8493a7 10/src/Makefile.am: Fix --gir option according to new valac version May 23 23:11:46 ptitjes|F9N: what are this automatic robots? May 23 23:11:58 (CIA-75) May 23 23:12:47 they announce every commit May 23 23:19:45 SHR: 03deubeuliou 07libframeworkd-phonegui-gtk2 * r288b6704e091 10/src/Makefile.am: correcting the name of FSO's vapi May 23 23:20:10 raster!!! May 23 23:20:43 I think he went to sleep May 23 23:21:02 Deubeuliou: do it have a website, or something where I could download? May 23 23:21:03 Deubeuliou, you are at fsudcon, right? May 23 23:21:32 khiraly1: probably. but I don't know which May 23 23:21:35 TAsn: right May 23 23:21:52 Deubeuliou, please tell him May 23 23:21:58 I was looking for him May 23 23:22:00 and I said May 23 23:22:09 that I just tried evas rev 40728 May 23 23:22:20 and it worked just great, cursor and everything, and that he should be more specific May 23 23:22:21 k? :) May 23 23:22:26 uuuh May 23 23:22:34 shoragan: strange things are happening May 23 23:22:34 better tell him directly May 23 23:22:40 I'll go to sleep too soon May 23 23:23:19 NOTE: :cannot concatenate 'str' and 'EnumValue' objects while evaluating: May 23 23:23:19 ${S} May 23 23:23:19 ERROR: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'EnumValue' objects while parsing /home/alphaone/shr-dev/openembedded/recipes/shr/shr-contacts_git.bb May 23 23:23:29 Deubeuliou, ok, thanks. May 23 23:31:34 sorry May 23 23:54:03 tracfeed: Ticket #479 (SHR does not support /usr in a separated partition) created May 23 23:59:21 btw, any more presentations/livestreams planned for sunday ? May 24 00:03:52 wpwrak, yes May 24 00:04:10 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/FSOSHRUDCON'09 May 24 00:04:15 are any of the procedings from today posted? May 24 00:04:30 they schedules after lauch, but will be at morning may be May 24 00:05:41 max_posedon: ah, schedule still valid. good :) after lunch is actually very good for me - trailing .de by 5h :) May 24 00:06:05 wpwrak: you're in the same boat as me :) May 24 00:06:18 once more, "but will be at morning may be") May 24 00:06:47 let's count on the power of late night hacking leading to sleeping in :) May 24 00:07:13 yes, but never doubt the effects of energy drinks and dark coffee May 24 00:07:48 Toaster`: if they're all jittery, it'll take them till after lunch to set up the streaming. so the effect is the same :) May 24 00:08:07 heh, point :) May 24 00:08:14 wpwrak: you in NAmerica? May 24 00:09:08 I'm guessing from the time difference May 24 00:09:13 Toaster`: nope, SAmerica. buenos aires May 24 00:09:30 Ahh ok. May 24 00:09:50 Toaster`: as far away from taipei as geographically possible :) May 24 00:10:20 so you have a well travelled phone then! :) May 24 00:12:28 Toaster`: yeah, and well travelled myself. been to TPE something like 6 times :) May 24 00:13:13 Very nice. I've only had mine to Tokyo and to Italy. May 24 00:13:16 moin, werner May 24 00:13:42 hmm May 24 00:13:50 where can I download ffmpeg package? May 24 00:13:51 DocMobilizer: heya ! how's it going ? May 24 00:15:00 well, noon for me, late night for the world around :-) May 24 00:15:16 so thinking about a "mittagsschlaf" May 24 00:15:43 DocMobilizer: hehe, exactly ;-) the time of day is but an individual illusion :) May 24 00:16:55 DocMobilizer: is the convention fun ? May 24 00:16:56 probably will ge me another beer, and see if there's any easy watching tv program May 24 00:17:39 DocScrutinizer: where are you? May 24 00:17:48 here is already 2:00 am May 24 00:18:16 actually yes. though it's a users+developers conf, and I'm neither sw-devel, nor a user (well or maybe the only "user" here ;) May 24 00:19:36 khiraly1: in my room May 24 00:19:46 ok May 24 00:20:13 fetching another beer next building in a few sec May 24 00:22:01 DocMobilizer: yeah, more hw-devel, like myself these days :) any talk about hardware ? May 24 00:23:24 very little May 24 00:23:47 maybe tomorrow we will have a dedicated meeting May 24 00:25:55 DocMobilizer: good. would be interesting to hear if there's anything going on but gta02-core. or if there are resources that can be added to gta02-core. the sooner we get this done, the sooner we'll have a chance to try more interesting designs :) May 24 00:28:25 "Hang Up" is the common English, release is telephony speak May 24 00:30:47 tmzt: for a nice GUI, you could actually draw the Q.931 messages. they're very pretty ;-) May 24 00:31:13 since yo have a touchscreen device, one nice feature of some touch pro roms is a clear shield over the buttons that can be toggled May 24 00:32:32 tmzt: you mean to prevent accidental emission of a RELEASE message ? May 24 00:38:01 DocMobilizer: btw, why do the public gta02 schematics say "jOERG (NAK)" ? negative acknowledge ? May 24 00:50:19 exactly May 24 00:51:05 DocMobilizer: how come ? May 24 00:52:12 wpwrak: it's still rc1 and spme details not the way theyy should May 24 00:52:51 DocMobilizer: ah, i see. any specific traps ? May 24 00:53:28 eg 1uf 'oR' May 24 00:53:50 0R May 24 00:54:15 offsheet symb May 24 00:54:31 offsheet ?!? now i'm scared May 24 00:55:03 1uf and oR aren't so bad. at least you notice them :) May 24 00:55:12 there's some nonsense May 24 01:04:55 DSC0.nEN_DSC of the 2442 is a lovely bit. "disable drive strength control". and then what ? ;-) May 24 01:07:02 what? May 24 01:07:13 lol May 24 01:07:17 it's related to gpio isn't it? May 24 01:07:38 tmzt: yup. May 24 01:08:19 (i'm trying to see if we might need footprints for caps on the sdio bus or not) May 24 01:08:29 wpwrak: to prevent pressing any buttons, mut, speaker, end call, etc. May 24 01:09:18 well, we never figured out why sdio was polluting gps in the first place. perhaps just a layout mistake and no over-the-air interference. May 24 01:09:19 huh May 24 01:09:34 err, sd/mmc. not sdio May 24 01:09:43 new design? May 24 01:10:11 which sd/sdio? May 24 01:10:14 tmzt: (buttons) yeah, makes sense. lots of functions with undesired effect May 24 01:10:40 and its glamo May 24 01:10:52 tmzt: (gta02-core) the sd/mmc slot. remember that in the early days of gta02, sd/mmc used to knock out gps ? May 24 01:11:28 ok May 24 01:12:01 I mean which host is that? May 24 01:15:24 tmzt: host? May 24 01:16:03 DocMobilizer: yes, but glamo has sw-controlled drive strength, so you can change the frequency. 2442 has no such option and is has an 8 mA drive, while the glamo has about 2-5.5 mA May 24 01:17:01 tmzt: you lost me as well :) May 24 01:18:29 well, back to tv May 24 01:20:02 the oldest also the last ;-) So everything easy now May 24 01:20:26 DocMobilizer: eh ? May 24 01:21:22 Arhuaco: hah, that's my IP ! :) May 24 01:22:12 Arhuaco: welcome back ! had dinner yet ? May 24 01:22:12 tomorrow motrning schedule is "coding", so if i leave the breakfast... :-) May 24 01:22:18 wpwrak: I'm sorry. I had to hack into your firewall. May 24 01:22:38 hehe May 24 01:23:30 also thete's beeb a obscure werner_A_ May 24 01:23:40 been May 24 01:23:53 ;-D May 24 01:24:10 sd host, whicp chip, glamo or s3c May 24 01:24:21 yeah, that was me typing on nelson's laptop while we were watching you guys in tv May 24 01:24:52 tmzt: what i'm examining is what to do for host = s3c2442 May 24 01:24:53 seen me waving? May 24 01:25:16 DocMobilizer: naw, i'm afraid not. you'll have to tell us in irc first May 24 01:25:20 how is drvstr related to frequency? May 24 01:25:38 we have this on msm as well May 24 01:26:08 tmzt: if there are interferences caused by the edges on the sd/mmc signals, then the frequency of the interferences depends on the rise/fall time of the edges, which in turn depends on the drive strength. May 24 01:26:39 yup May 24 01:27:15 so the more current, the longer it takes to go back to 0? May 24 01:27:50 tmzt: the more current, the quicker you change. works both ways. May 24 01:28:07 ok May 24 01:28:50 tmzt: think of the pin as a small capacitor. you charge and discharge it. the more current you have, the quicker you can change the charge. May 24 01:30:35 the proper solution would probably be to add some real filters, not c+unknown adhocery ... May 24 01:30:41 so the problem is with only one sdhost how you can use card and wifi? May 24 01:31:00 on core May 24 01:31:17 tmzt: wifi connects to spi and we run in sd-spi mode. a bit slower, but who cares. May 24 01:31:36 oh, so there is still the spi May 24 01:31:55 we have an entire unused spi port, yes May 24 01:31:56 I read the thread a few weeks ago May 24 01:32:17 and the firmware will support this? May 24 01:33:09 yup, it does. i had all this working some months ago. May 24 01:33:21 cool May 24 01:38:24 moving a question from #openmoko to here... May 24 01:38:30 is there any initiative on implementing a frameworkd alternative that does not require python? May 24 01:39:15 yes, plan is to rewrite in vala I think May 24 01:39:31 vala? May 24 01:39:49 which compiles to c +glib May 24 01:40:04 ah... cool... May 24 01:40:51 where can I get more info about it? May 24 01:41:42 vala? May 24 01:41:53 vala-project.org May 24 01:42:16 it's a language written by/for gnome May 24 01:42:25 yes... thanks... May 24 01:42:50 dns53: add an "s" and it gets funny :) May 24 01:43:10 hehe May 24 01:43:19 ah... cool... I wasn't aware of vala at all May 24 01:43:47 the idea is you write it in vala and you get language bindings easier May 24 01:43:55 yet another c :) May 24 01:44:23 I really like the "without imposing any additional runtime requirements and without using a different ABI" May 24 01:44:37 that's what one needs for a constrained device May 24 01:44:49 yau, fsckg preprocessors May 24 01:46:06 DocMobilizer: it admittedly takes a very long time until you grok C, but then you realize that all of those supposed improvements rarely are May 24 01:47:21 wpwrak, while I agree with you, when you use a runtime library as complex as glib, having a preprocessor is really helpfull May 24 01:47:34 and for C I actually know wht CPU is going to get to execute (spak: Assembler). For those "enhancements" you never know May 24 01:47:54 unless you check resulting C code May 24 01:48:25 ruoso: hehe, maybe glib then is part of the problem :) May 24 01:48:39 but it's also part of the solution ;) May 24 01:49:11 ruoso: e.g., i'm deeply suspicious of anything that starts by renaming all the standard types. the gods created ANSI C for a reason :) May 24 01:50:24 wpwrak, that's the cost of building a *runtime library* May 24 01:50:34 but it has been proven useful tons of times May 24 01:50:47 standard types? May 24 01:50:57 how does vala do this? May 24 01:51:08 not vala, glib May 24 01:51:16 just uses glib defines, gchar, etc? May 24 01:52:19 errr, gnight May 24 01:52:59 DocMobilizer: what glib type is that ? void ? May 24 01:54:44 opaque May 24 01:55:44 typedef typeof(NULL) gnight; May 24 01:57:31 hehe May 24 02:00:49 aah, monday is a holiday ! almost forgot **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 24 02:59:57 2009