**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 21 02:59:57 2009
Jul 21 04:59:09 <TAsn> mrmoku, ! :)
Jul 21 04:59:24 <TAsn> please rebuild libframeworkd-phonegui-efl and pyphonelog
Jul 21 04:59:37 <TAsn> I added cool features
Jul 21 04:59:42 <TAsn> anyhow, I"m late, ciao.
Jul 21 05:12:04 <mrmoku> mwester, I highly doubt that
Jul 21 05:12:19 <mrmoku> the esd issue happens whenever you have esd-config in your path
Jul 21 05:12:28 <mrmoku> and I can't see how that is related to enabling flac
Jul 21 05:12:58 <mrmoku> IMHO this is a problem in the autoconf system of gstreamer
Jul 21 05:13:12 <mrmoku> it should not look for esd-config in the path
Jul 21 05:13:33 <mrmoku> just my autofoo knowledge is not big enough to correctly fix it
Jul 21 05:13:49 <mrmoku> mwester, did you try with that patch reverted?
Jul 21 05:18:11 <mrmoku> TAsn, not interested in features today ;)
Jul 21 05:30:16 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, ping Ainulindale ping :)
Jul 21 07:19:51 <von_fritz> mrmoku erased yesterday tmp dir but my new image still shows size of 63438848 in my opinion too small ;)
Jul 21 07:20:15 * von_fritz thinks something is wrong :)
Jul 21 07:20:26 <mrmoku> let me check the buildhosts one
Jul 21 07:20:53 <mrmoku> von_fritz, the tar.gz or the jffs2 one
Jul 21 07:20:53 <mrmoku> ?
Jul 21 07:21:09 <mrmoku> or the ubifs one :P
Jul 21 07:21:22 <von_fritz> 63438848 21 lug 08:25 shr-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090721-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
Jul 21 07:22:05 <mrmoku> yeah, that is too small
Jul 21 07:22:24 <mrmoku> von_fritz, does it contain fso-abyss?
Jul 21 07:25:26 <von_fritz> wait.... in testlab/files-in-image.txt NO
Jul 21 07:26:12 <mrmoku> von_fritz, you could try to manually build fso-abyss, clean task-shr-minmal task-base and shr-lite-image
Jul 21 07:26:15 <mrmoku> and retry
Jul 21 07:30:02 <von_fritz> cat tmp/deploy/glibc/images/om*/*-testlab/files-in-image.txt | grep ophone* no ophonekitd :(
Jul 21 07:31:19 <von_fritz> clean task-shr-minmal task-base and shr-lite-image , have tried that yesterday with no result ;)
Jul 21 07:31:54 <von_fritz> well i hope that im not the only one with that problem :)
Jul 21 07:31:59 <mrmoku> von_fritz, I think that is the consequence of a missing fso-abyss
Jul 21 07:32:12 <mrmoku> and no, I had that problem too
Jul 21 07:35:59 <khiraly11> can I read somewhere what is this fso-abyss? (in detail)
Jul 21 07:36:45 <mrmoku> khiraly11, GSM 07.10 Multiplexer (NG)
Jul 21 07:37:33 <[Rui]> C-ya
Jul 21 07:38:04 <mrmoku> von_fritz, have to go now... and want to hear some success story when I come back ;)
Jul 21 07:40:17 <methril|work> good morning
Jul 21 07:40:29 <methril|work> someone going to Debconf this weekend?
Jul 21 08:08:17 <von_fritz> mrmoku or mrmoku | away :) well size is now 81920000 for my jffs2 image :) but i think its too fat :D normaly i have sizes of 74000000-75000000
Jul 21 08:09:05 <von_fritz> well will try that image
Jul 21 08:41:52 <Ainulindale> mrmoku|away: pong
Jul 21 08:41:54 <Ainulindale> mrmoku|away: pongpong
Jul 21 08:42:14 <Ainulindale> von_fritz: it's probably because it has the fso sound theme
Jul 21 08:46:24 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, hey
Jul 21 08:46:27 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, we have a problem ;)
Jul 21 08:47:10 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, our PREFERRED_VERSIONs are getting overwritten by the om-200x includes
Jul 21 08:48:24 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: Huh?
Jul 21 08:48:28 <Ainulindale> Why is that?
Jul 21 08:48:50 <mrmoku> I guess because our autorev files get included first
Jul 21 08:49:06 <mrmoku> and then the om one (which overwrites the PREFERRED_VERSIONS with =)
Jul 21 08:50:09 <Ainulindale> hmpf
Jul 21 08:52:17 <mrmoku> guess we should just do our own preferred-shr-verions.inc
Jul 21 08:52:34 <mrmoku> integrate the needed stuff from the om ones and include ours
Jul 21 08:55:14 <mrmoku> von_fritz, setting the preferred version for connman to 0.22 will build the correct one :)
Jul 21 08:56:47 * mrmoku moves into the garden... brb
Jul 21 08:56:58 <dos1> mrmoku|away: ping
Jul 21 08:57:00 <dos1> :D
Jul 21 08:57:25 <dos1> mwester: ping
Jul 21 08:59:15 <methril|work> mrmoku|away, Ainulindale: it overwrites PREFERRED_VERSIONs with = , i understand it overwrites it with ?=
Jul 21 09:01:29 <mrmoku> dos1, pong
Jul 21 09:01:51 <dos1> mrmoku: have you seen mwester's "patch" to gstreamer?
Jul 21 09:02:04 <dos1> mrmoku: we have wrong override, which deleted all dependencies except of flac
Jul 21 09:02:05 <mrmoku> methril|work, no with =
Jul 21 09:02:19 <mrmoku> dos1, hmm
Jul 21 09:04:05 <mrmoku> dos1, where is that patch?
Jul 21 09:04:11 <dos1> mrmoku: on backlog :D
Jul 21 09:04:17 <mrmoku> there was no patch
Jul 21 09:05:02 <dos1> [03:18] <mwester> commit b4d5b3762c63b484312ef31cf65ce7767de2e51a is questionable.
Jul 21 09:05:04 <dos1> [03:19] <mwester> That's an SHR-specific change to gstreamer, affects _only_ SHR, which is consistent with this build failure, and would have the symptoms that it would be "fixed" (in quotes) by installing esd on the build host.
Jul 21 09:05:05 <dos1> [03:19] <mwester> mrmoku|away,  ^^^^
Jul 21 09:05:07 <dos1> [03:20] <mwester> DEPENDS_shr += " flac"  <---- that line overrides the previous line, thus removing the dependency on esound.
Jul 21 09:05:08 <dos1> [03:20] <mwester> Try:  DEPENDS_shr += " flac gst-plugins-base esound"
Jul 21 09:05:10 <dos1> [03:21] <mwester> dos1|zzZZzz,  there.  I fixed it.  Good enough?  :p
Jul 21 09:05:17 <dos1> mrmoku: there was ^^^ :P
Jul 21 09:06:09 <mrmoku> dos1, thing is WE DON'T WANT esound
Jul 21 09:06:09 <dos1> [03:35] <mwester> It's the way the parser works -- the "override" (_shr suffix) says to use that particular line to determine value, overriding any other lines assigning to the same variable.
Jul 21 09:06:37 <mrmoku> and the correct patch would be to patch the gstreamer autoconf stuff to not look for esd-config in the path
Jul 21 09:07:18 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: does my stuff with append worked?
Jul 21 09:07:29 <Ainulindale> (for opkg & all)
Jul 21 09:07:38 <mrmoku> yep
Jul 21 09:07:52 <dos1> mrmoku: hmm... then it should be some configure option do disable esd, shouldn't it?
Jul 21 09:08:08 <mrmoku> dos1, one would think so, but no :(
Jul 21 09:08:28 <dos1> mrmoku: but why we don't want esound?
Jul 21 09:08:29 <mrmoku> dos1, you can take a look... maybe I was just plain blind and stupid
Jul 21 09:08:37 <mrmoku> dos1, because it is broken on our hardware
Jul 21 09:08:43 <dos1> esound?
Jul 21 09:08:53 <dos1> hmm
Jul 21 09:08:56 <mrmoku> hmm
Jul 21 09:09:11 <mrmoku> dos1, ask DocScrutinizer :P
Jul 21 09:09:20 <mrmoku> don't remember
Jul 21 09:09:24 <mrmoku> maybe I'm just confused
Jul 21 09:09:32 <mrmoku> though what would we need it for?
Jul 21 09:09:33 <dos1> mrmoku: oss brokes sound on FR
Jul 21 09:09:36 <mrmoku> yep
Jul 21 09:10:12 <mrmoku> anyway... brb
Jul 21 09:10:27 <dos1> mrmoku: that's DEPENDS, not RDEPENDS
Jul 21 09:10:33 <dos1> mrmoku: esound is needed to build esdsink
Jul 21 09:10:58 <dos1> mrmoku: so maybe then --disable-esdsink? ;x
Jul 21 09:11:00 <dos1> mrmoku: looking at it now
Jul 21 09:12:51 <dos1> translit(dnm, m, l) AM_CONDITIONAL(USE_ESD, true)
Jul 21 09:12:52 <dos1> AG_GST_CHECK_FEATURE(ESD, [ESounD sound daemon], esdsink, [
Jul 21 09:12:54 <dos1>   AG_GST_PKG_CHECK_MODULES(ESD, esound >= 0.2.12)
Jul 21 09:12:55 <dos1>   if test $HAVE_ESD = no
Jul 21 09:12:57 <dos1>   then
Jul 21 09:12:59 <dos1>     AM_PATH_ESD(0.2.12, HAVE_ESD="yes")
Jul 21 09:13:00 <dos1>     AS_SCRUB_INCLUDE(ESD_CFLAGS)
Jul 21 09:13:01 <dos1>   fi
Jul 21 09:13:03 <dos1> ])
Jul 21 09:13:40 <dos1> looks like it's disabled by default, if it can't find esd
Jul 21 09:13:46 <dos1> :x
Jul 21 09:17:47 <von_fritz> mrmoku my image seems OK now and setting "0.22" in preferred-om-2009-versions.inc says  
Jul 21 09:17:53 <von_fritz> NOTE: preferred version 0.22 of connman not available (for item connman)
Jul 21 09:18:24 <von_fritz> but builds connman-0.22+gitr1569+066ce14426bb50ec33bbc74688381ce93d8dd797 correctly :P
Jul 21 09:18:57 <von_fritz> well a little hackish but works :)
Jul 21 09:19:01 <dos1> von_fritz: check, what is set in shr-versions (maybe "git" instead of "0.22")
Jul 21 09:19:07 <mrmoku> dos1, that is our problem... because it looks for esd-config in the path it thinks it needs to build with esound support
Jul 21 09:19:36 <dos1> mrmoku: i don't understand ;x
Jul 21 09:19:58 <dos1> mrmoku: it checks if esd is availbable, to disable or enable esd support
Jul 21 09:20:13 <dos1> mrmoku: but because it checks in wrong path, it fails?
Jul 21 09:20:20 <mrmoku> yes and to see if it is available it is looking for esd-config
Jul 21 09:20:29 <mrmoku> and that in PATH
Jul 21 09:20:38 <mrmoku> if you happen to have esd-config installed on your buildhost... boom
Jul 21 09:20:39 <dos1> mrmoku: and if it isn't?
Jul 21 09:20:45 <dos1> aaaaah
Jul 21 09:20:53 <mrmoku> that's why it builds for most and not for some
Jul 21 09:20:54 <dos1> i understand now :)
Jul 21 09:20:56 <mrmoku> :)
Jul 21 09:21:08 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, want me to do a preferred-shr-versions.inc please? :P
Jul 21 09:21:56 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: yeah you can :-)
Jul 21 09:21:57 <mrmoku> von_fritz, yep a little hackish :P
Jul 21 09:22:00 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, ok
Jul 21 09:27:03 <Ainulindale> Meanwhile I'm crosscompiling a distcc thing for my new mini ITX
Jul 21 09:27:12 <Ainulindale> And I should get in touch with max_posedon for gentoo/SHR
Jul 21 09:35:55 <methril|work> nice!! i like to have the  preferred-shr-versions.inc file :)
Jul 21 09:38:28 <mrmoku> methril|work, will get it real soon :)
Jul 21 09:43:45 <mrmoku> ok, comitted and pushed
Jul 21 09:45:20 <dos1> mrmoku: openbmap-logger 0.4.0 is in fso/milestone5.5
Jul 21 09:51:26 <ptitjes> goood moooooorning everyone
Jul 21 09:52:20 <agg1n> is it safe to upgrade my shr-unstable at the time?
Jul 21 10:04:11 <mrmoku> agg1n, you should wait a little
Jul 21 10:04:20 <mrmoku> I'm working on a bigger upgrade :P
Jul 21 10:04:26 <mrmoku> ptitjes, heja
Jul 21 10:04:36 <ptitjes> heya
Jul 21 10:05:19 <mrmoku> ptitjes, now for libgee... 0.1.6 you said...
Jul 21 10:05:29 <ptitjes> ?
Jul 21 10:05:43 <mrmoku> to use tarballs instead of git
Jul 21 10:05:48 <ptitjes> oh want to make a recipe ?
Jul 21 10:05:54 <ptitjes> yeah go on
Jul 21 10:05:55 <mrmoku> already did that 
Jul 21 10:05:59 <mrmoku> have to commit it
Jul 21 10:06:05 <ptitjes> oki
Jul 21 10:06:14 <mrmoku> and I'm always frightend when it rebuilds some vala stuff from git ;)
Jul 21 10:06:19 <ptitjes> mrmoku: using tarballs is better than using git, right ?
Jul 21 10:06:27 <ptitjes> héhéhé :)
Jul 21 10:06:30 <mrmoku> ptitjes, more stable
Jul 21 10:06:50 <mrmoku> and preferred, but does not make sense if you need newer stuff that you only get via git/svn
Jul 21 10:07:01 <mrmoku> but as you're the maintainer now :P
Jul 21 10:07:05 <ptitjes> mrmoku: you meant: and I'm always frightend when it rebuilds some mickey|dinner stuff from git", right ?
Jul 21 10:07:07 <ptitjes> ;p
Jul 21 10:07:13 <mrmoku> ptitjes, nop
Jul 21 10:07:17 <ptitjes> :D
Jul 21 10:07:44 <mrmoku> I meant that I'm frightend if some vala stuff updates and you guys did not coordinate it enough ;)
Jul 21 10:08:12 <ptitjes> yep I understood :)$
Jul 21 10:08:39 * mrmoku really hopes for TAsn he did not break our phonegui stuff...
Jul 21 10:13:17 <mrmoku> dos1, found a solution?
Jul 21 10:13:31 <dos1> no...
Jul 21 10:16:42 <dos1> mrmoku: could you cherry-pick openBmap 0.4.0?
Jul 21 10:19:08 <mrmoku> dos1, yep I could
Jul 21 10:19:11 <mrmoku> ;)
Jul 21 10:19:42 <dos1> mrmoku: has my "make mrmoku build" karma decreased more? :x
Jul 21 10:20:04 <dos1> now even "make mrmoku commit" :D
Jul 21 10:20:39 <dos1> mrmoku: so please cherry-pick :) i'm fighting now with openBmap to be able to log two networks at the same time with umts dongle ;)\
Jul 21 10:22:14 <mrmoku> uups... killed my irssi window
Jul 21 10:22:18 <mrmoku> dos1, did
Jul 21 10:22:27 <dos1> thanks :)
Jul 21 10:47:08 <Ainulindale> alphaone?
Jul 21 10:51:09 <Ainulindale> TAsn: replied to your mail
Jul 21 11:03:07 <Ainulindale> PaulFertser ?
Jul 21 11:07:45 <alphaone> Ainulindale: pong
Jul 21 11:14:13 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: dos1: (esound) why would we want to use it? I don't see any benefit from esound. That's main reason for me not to use it
Jul 21 11:14:55 <Ainulindale> alphaone: could you give me some info on the 1024 fix?
Jul 21 11:14:58 <Ainulindale> Is it official now?
Jul 21 11:16:08 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer, yep, that's what I think too
Jul 21 11:16:11 <mrmoku> and we won't use it
Jul 21 11:16:31 <mrmoku> just that damn gst-plugins-good need esound to build if it finds esd-config *somewhere'
Jul 21 11:17:05 <mrmoku> F4t, ahh... was waiting for you ;)
Jul 21 11:17:18 <F4t> cool, sup?
Jul 21 11:17:24 <DocScrutinizer> hehe, yes. the incredible autotools stupidity
Jul 21 11:17:42 <mrmoku> F4t, you restart connman if you turn on wifi?
Jul 21 11:18:00 <F4t> mrmoku, i restart connman if after i turn on wifi, i still dont find the device in connman list...
Jul 21 11:18:12 <F4t> mrmoku, if that bug is fixed in connman, the code wont restart it
Jul 21 11:18:15 <Meomer> i was wondering the other day, whether OSSv4 can be built on arm
Jul 21 11:18:17 <mrmoku> because I get timeouts during DHCP
Jul 21 11:18:28 <mrmoku> and I guess it is because udhcpc is not started
Jul 21 11:18:44 <mrmoku> (which gets started by the connman init script if I remember correctly... not sure though)
Jul 21 11:19:06 <F4t> mrmoku, it does... even if i restart connman, it should start its udhcp instances...
Jul 21 11:19:17 <F4t> did u config udhcp right on compilation?
Jul 21 11:19:33 <F4t> --with-udhcp=/path/to/udhcp/on/moko
Jul 21 11:19:51 <mrmoku> hmm... did not change anything there
Jul 21 11:20:07 <mrmoku> F4t, though if I restart it manually and retry I get another strange thing:
Jul 21 11:20:11 <mrmoku> DBusException: org.moblin.connman.Error.Failed: Operation not permitted
Jul 21 11:20:18 <alphaone> Ainulindale: No, not official...
Jul 21 11:20:19 <mrmoku> for     self.device["Powered"] = True
Jul 21 11:20:37 <F4t> thats plain weird...
Jul 21 11:21:12 <alphaone> I recently mailed Sean about how to continue the buzz-fix and what he thinks about the #1024 fix, but he hasn't answered yet
Jul 21 11:21:47 <Meomer> aww, 4front only lists x86 and amd64 support on their OSSv4 page 
Jul 21 11:22:08 <mrmoku> F4t, ok, have to have lunch now... will dig into it after
Jul 21 11:22:15 <F4t> ok
Jul 21 11:22:17 <mrmoku> bbl
Jul 21 11:37:11 <Ainulindale> alphaone: so no plan to do it for everyone then
Jul 21 11:37:13 <Ainulindale> max_posedon: there?
Jul 21 11:37:48 <alphaone> Ainulindale: No, at least not yet
Jul 21 11:39:02 <alphaone> Ainulindale: And I wont be able to keep up the mailins much longer.
Jul 21 11:39:27 <Ainulindale> Why is that?
Jul 21 11:39:49 <alphaone> It's just too much effort. If it was only soldering, but it's the logistics as well. Making sure I'm there when a package arrives.
Jul 21 11:40:07 <Ainulindale> I can understand that
Jul 21 11:40:09 <alphaone> If not I have to pick it up from the post office 7km away.
Jul 21 11:40:28 <alphaone> Keeping track of postage, buying postage, sending the stuff back.
Jul 21 11:41:19 <alphaone> I'm not really sure if I should offer the rework at HAR...
Jul 21 11:41:27 <alphaone> I fear I'll have no free time then
Jul 21 12:03:53 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, btw. I would like to rename our images... set IMAGE_BASENAME to lite for the lite and full for the fat image
Jul 21 12:03:59 <mrmoku> to get rid of the doubled shr
Jul 21 12:04:06 <mrmoku> any objection?
Jul 21 12:04:14 <Ainulindale> none
Jul 21 12:04:18 <mrmoku> good :)
Jul 21 12:04:39 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, and I filled the feed with a bunch of updates
Jul 21 12:04:54 <mrmoku> just to let you know your phone will explode when you upgrade ;)
Jul 21 12:04:57 <Ainulindale> you're a good man :-)
Jul 21 12:05:09 <mrmoku> (actually it is still syncing)
Jul 21 12:07:48 <Ainulindale> tell me when it's done
Jul 21 12:08:36 <mrmoku> done
Jul 21 12:11:20 <Ainulindale> hmmm mrmoku 
Jul 21 12:11:22 <Ainulindale> I have nothing
Jul 21 12:11:28 <Ainulindale> Invalid gzip magic
Jul 21 12:11:32 <Ainulindale> On all the repos
Jul 21 12:12:19 <F4t> yay... mokonnect svnr87!! :D
Jul 21 12:12:32 <F4t> has static usb configuration, and beta gprs..
Jul 21 12:12:32 <Ainulindale> Inflating http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/Packages.gz
Jul 21 12:12:35 <Ainulindale> opkg: Invalid gzip magic
Jul 21 12:12:42 <Ainulindale> I bet that's due to the gpg/nongpg stuff
Jul 21 12:13:20 <dos11> Ainulindale: here it's ok
Jul 21 12:13:47 <Ainulindale> Well here it isn't, so what? =)
Jul 21 12:13:51 * von_fritz is tired of building connman, Holtmann should take vacations :)
Jul 21 12:14:49 <dos1> Ainulindale: so something can be wrong with your system, not the feed ;)
Jul 21 12:15:01 <dos1> oh, big update :D
Jul 21 12:15:45 <Ainulindale> Well of course it is, the question is what, because I don't think I'm the only one out there dos1 
Jul 21 12:16:57 <Ainulindale> And we should remove fso-sounds
Jul 21 12:17:59 <DocScrutinizer> Meomer: I wonder *why* we would want OSS4, or even libcanberra, on FR
Jul 21 12:18:41 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: libcanberra is used by fsodeviced to play sounds ;x
Jul 21 12:19:13 <DocScrutinizer> I seem to have heard the rumour. Don't understand it tough
Jul 21 12:19:21 <DocScrutinizer> tHough
Jul 21 12:20:09 <DocScrutinizer> "" 
Jul 21 12:20:11 <DocScrutinizer> A. The pulse module is built and installed even if one did "--disable-pulse". 
Jul 21 12:20:12 <DocScrutinizer>  B. While libcanberra is supposed to probe each plugin, it's definition of "success" is iffy - only real way to ensure it gets the correct plugin is to erase the pulse plugin, which seems to get picked up even if pulse isn't loaded... 
Jul 21 12:20:14 <DocScrutinizer> ""
Jul 21 12:20:57 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, you have that only with armv4t?
Jul 21 12:21:39 <DocScrutinizer> so this looks to me like "if we can't get it right with one audiosystem, then let's try if we can make it with one out of 4" XD
Jul 21 12:22:14 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: all
Jul 21 12:22:38 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, I usually have that with broken DNS and landing on some wrong site that gives me 404
Jul 21 12:23:03 <mrmoku> Ainulindale, and I remember you have some proxies set in your config, no?
Jul 21 12:23:13 <DocScrutinizer> like daisychaining 4 ropes, in case one of them may break ;-)
Jul 21 12:23:31 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer, if it saves me from falling down the hill ;)
Jul 21 12:23:43 <mrmoku> (which it does *NOT* in this case ;)
Jul 21 12:24:24 <DocScrutinizer> that's my point ;)
Jul 21 12:26:00 <Ainulindale> mrmoku: yes
Jul 21 12:26:06 <Ainulindale> let me check that
Jul 21 12:27:28 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer, just wanted to tell you that your metaphor sucks... because in case of 4 ropes on a hill... I prefer having 4 ropes :P
Jul 21 12:28:11 <DocScrutinizer> not when daisychaining them
Jul 21 12:28:34 <DocScrutinizer> aka tie them end to end
Jul 21 12:32:43 <DocScrutinizer> but I understand we need more silly libs to fill our storage - otherwise customers would blame us for not making use of all the nice expensive flash
Jul 21 12:34:44 <von_fritz> F4t is latest mokonnect able to scan hidden networks (wifi) ? seems not working :( 
Jul 21 12:37:30 <F4t> von_fritz, if it works, it would be pure luck :)
Jul 21 12:44:00 <von_fritz> F4t seems new connman .... :( wifiman.py is "blind" too :) 
Jul 21 12:44:07 <tae> hmm, the suspend bug i am experiencing is still appearing. it leaves a purple line through the screen and fails to suspend. i am not able to do anything at all with the phone,  i can ping it, but not ssh to it, the screen is completly black but still lit up so it never suspends
Jul 21 12:44:21 <tae> i dont have a debugging board so i cannot see what gets printed :/ dunno what to do
Jul 21 12:45:11 <tae> it happends almost everytime the phone goes into suspend, but sometimes it stoppes, i thought it was related to my suspend settings at first, but now i am unsure again because it stopped working and i have not changed the settings.
Jul 21 12:45:51 <Weiss> ARGH gtk+-fastscaling DIE DIE etc
Jul 21 12:45:59 <tae> Weiss: yeah i agree
Jul 21 12:46:29 <tae> Weiss: do you have angstrom in your repo?
Jul 21 12:46:34 <Weiss> (r.e. latest OM-Community post)
Jul 21 12:46:39 <tae> that messed my system up
Jul 21 12:47:12 <Weiss> it's not me.. i just mean that post
Jul 21 12:47:32 <tae> ah i see
Jul 21 12:49:48 <F4t> von_fritz, they are working on hidden networks now, so they keep changing how they treat them...
Jul 21 12:49:57 <F4t> von_fritz, they = connman devs
Jul 21 12:52:48 <mrmoku> F4t, better to sit down and wait a moment then :P
Jul 21 12:53:27 <Ainulindale> max_posedon?
Jul 21 12:54:44 <F4t> mrmoku, yea, so im working on other features for now
Jul 21 12:56:50 <mrmoku> F4t, Exception on proposescan: org.moblin.connman.Error.NoCarrier: No carrier
Jul 21 12:56:53 <mrmoku> what does that mean?
Jul 21 12:59:41 <mrmoku> F4t, and what version of connman are you using?
Jul 21 13:03:36 <F4t> mrmoku, latest git...
Jul 21 13:03:47 <F4t> No Carrier?
Jul 21 13:04:15 <F4t> well, it seems i need to opkg upgrade and test mokonnect too...
Jul 21 13:04:46 <F4t> What version do you have?
Jul 21 13:05:08 <von_fritz> well with latest connman i have only /profile and /profile/default with mdbus -s :( wifi is on
Jul 21 13:06:34 <mrmoku> F4t, 0.22+gitr1575+f7fb380c664c938d5396cc9e1b36c3b4b55e72b2-r1
Jul 21 13:07:03 <Ainulindale> Anybody here is using gentoo to crosscompile stuff? =)
Jul 21 13:07:23 <F4t> ok, seems like ur version is even more latest then mine :-/
Jul 21 13:08:12 <F4t> mrmoku, ill upgrade my moko and test
Jul 21 13:09:02 <mrmoku> F4t, and two commits after that is 0.30
Jul 21 13:09:13 <F4t> mrmoku, ye, i know :-/
Jul 21 13:09:18 <von_fritz> WTF ......connman - 0.22+gitr1577+7c73daec2f89ccd829881c608e833e5dc859bbcb-r1 and connman-plugin-wifi - 0.19-r1
Jul 21 13:09:39 <F4t> mrmoku, von_fritz might be on to something...
Jul 21 13:09:39 <mrmoku> von_fritz, no good combination ;)
Jul 21 13:10:53 <F4t> nop, theres an update package von_fritz...
Jul 21 13:11:01 <F4t> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/connman-plugin-wifi_0.22+gitr1575+f7fb380c664c938d5396cc9e1b36c3b4b55e72b2-r1_armv4t.ipk
Jul 21 13:11:30 <mrmoku> F4t, von_fritz is autobuilder :P
Jul 21 13:11:46 <mrmoku> he wants complete independence and control ;)
Jul 21 13:11:57 <von_fritz> i know i have only builded connman but forgotten to build the plugins :)
Jul 21 13:12:18 <mrmoku> von_fritz, they should get built when you build connman
Jul 21 13:12:22 <mrmoku> as they are subpackages
Jul 21 13:13:37 <F4t> whatttttt....
Jul 21 13:13:39 <F4t> http://git.kernel.org/?p=network/connman/connman.git;a=blobdiff;f=src/network.c;h=06f1c5a8bac239798f7148217a4aff99be437c4c;hp=7277e213d326de35ceb48b5e0997731bb0ac635d;hb=49c3cd3a8bb28f0d95e49fa522b20ff1ea331390;hpb=f3b51adb6b18a81ee59d064d87cfbccf5e5ec357
Jul 21 13:13:45 <F4t> this updated completely screwed the mokonnect
Jul 21 13:14:29 <von_fritz> yes but opkg install local package (connman) installs fine i have installed local package ;)
Jul 21 13:14:30 <F4t> *sigh*...
Jul 21 13:14:58 <von_fritz> need to install plugins too (localy)
Jul 21 13:16:40 <F4t> *argh*..... f7f connman brakes mokonnect's wifi :-/
Jul 21 13:17:17 * mrmoku wonders if F4t uses CreateNetwork :P
Jul 21 13:17:37 <F4t> no no, theres another commit now that removes CreateNetwork...
Jul 21 13:17:47 <F4t> one must use services now...
Jul 21 13:17:49 <mrmoku> thats why I was wondering
Jul 21 13:17:55 <mrmoku> because f7f removes that
Jul 21 13:17:58 <F4t> the horror...
Jul 21 13:18:15 <mrmoku> ahh no
Jul 21 13:18:21 <mrmoku> f3b
Jul 21 13:18:43 <mrmoku> anyway... got to go
Jul 21 13:18:45 <mrmoku> bbl
Jul 21 13:19:39 <von_fritz> stupid opkg :) not warning me to install upgradet plugins too :D
Jul 21 13:21:13 <soltys> hm is it normal that after opkg upgrade framework is gone ? (latest unstable)
Jul 21 13:22:04 <F4t> soltys, define normal :)
Jul 21 13:22:30 <soltys> F4t: sth that evryone have ;P
Jul 21 13:22:58 <F4t> soltys, upgrading soon, ill let you know...
Jul 21 13:23:54 <soltys> also icons for shr-dialer etc are gone ;)
Jul 21 13:30:06 <Ainulindale> damn max_posedon :-)
Jul 21 13:31:23 <F4t> soltys, gives "unstable" anew definition :)
Jul 21 13:31:43 <soltys> F4t: yeap ;>
Jul 21 13:32:03 <soltys> F4t: hm gsm is down to
Jul 21 13:32:17 <Heinervdm> for me opkg upgrade failed
Jul 21 13:32:36 <Heinervdm> i'm getting a lot of opkg: fork failed 
Jul 21 13:33:18 <F4t> soltys, hmm, battery completely drained and the phone caught on fire..
Jul 21 13:33:23 <F4t> best update ever :P
Jul 21 13:33:24 <DocScrutinizer> Heinervdm: you upgraded opkg itself first?
Jul 21 13:33:30 <von_fritz> F4t now mokonnect scans, but blocked on Scanning..... with hidden network and you should release resource when you mokonnect exits
Jul 21 13:33:46 <F4t> Heinervdm, did you update opkg itself before the big update?
Jul 21 13:33:55 <Heinervdm> DocScrutinizer: that update was last weed, wasn't it?
Jul 21 13:34:20 <F4t> von_fritz, what resource?
Jul 21 13:34:28 <DocScrutinizer> Heinervdm: me just guessing
Jul 21 13:34:39 <Heinervdm> opkg is up to date
Jul 21 13:34:39 <von_fritz> power
Jul 21 13:34:59 <F4t> you want me to turn off wifi when mokonnect exits?
Jul 21 13:35:03 <Heinervdm> i will try agin with swap file
Jul 21 13:35:05 <von_fritz> yes
Jul 21 13:36:13 <von_fritz> now it turn's it on when i start mokonnect but not off when exits
Jul 21 13:36:37 <F4t> von_fritz, thats the idea, mokonnect shouldnt stay opened once you are doen configuring your connection...
Jul 21 13:37:03 <F4t> its an enter, config apply and exit app...
Jul 21 13:37:03 <F4t> if you want wifi off, apply a profile that doesnt have wifi in it, and mark "power off unused devices"
Jul 21 13:37:04 <von_fritz> BTW wifiman "sees" my hidden network now ;)
Jul 21 13:38:18 <F4t> mokonnect should "see" it too now...
Jul 21 13:39:44 <von_fritz> well version svnr87 stays blocked on Scanning.......
Jul 21 13:40:23 <F4t> *sigh*... ill test it soon
Jul 21 13:40:37 <F4t> btw, how can i make an endless loop of something in bash?
Jul 21 13:41:44 <soltys> hm opkg install -force-reinstall is the right option.. ;P
Jul 21 13:42:39 <F4t> resintall everything?!
Jul 21 13:43:03 <soltys> nope ;)
Jul 21 13:43:09 <soltys> only a few packages so far ;)
Jul 21 13:46:12 <soltys> hm gsm stil down ;/
Jul 21 13:51:49 <Tig|undead> damn getting lots of :  opkg: fork failed
Jul 21 13:52:02 <Ainulindale> Tig|undead: fixed with latest opkg
Jul 21 13:52:21 <Ainulindale> Tig|undead: meanwhile /etc/init.d/frameworkd stop && /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop
Jul 21 13:52:24 <Tig|undead> Ainulindale:  right will update that again before updating 
Jul 21 13:52:24 <Ainulindale> and try
Jul 21 13:53:13 <Tig|undead> thanks :) will do  
Jul 21 14:05:11 <DocScrutinizer> F4t: (bash loop) huh??
Jul 21 14:06:36 <Tig|undead> erm  should I have an /etc/init.d/frameworkd ?
Jul 21 14:07:10 <DocScrutinizer> while true; do :; done;     or what exactly do you need?
Jul 21 14:08:07 <DocScrutinizer> exec $0
Jul 21 14:17:41 <gismo_> does anyone have a working xorg.conf for Debian and mouse right-click?  Can she/he post it somewhere, please?
Jul 21 14:17:54 <Zorkman> Tig|undead: if you have SHR: yes
Jul 21 14:18:13 <Tig|undead> Zorkman: I thought as much,  I did a force reinstall and it came back
Jul 21 14:19:08 <Tig|undead> but I think something has gone wrong somewhere,  I am on the second reboot after upgrading, after the first I was missing icons and paths and all sorts :(
Jul 21 14:21:41 <Tig|undead> yep icons gone,  so has shr-settings :(
Jul 21 14:21:43 <Zorkman> I'm also upgrading, i'll let you know if I have the same errors
Jul 21 14:51:30 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: phonelog, conversion system_timestamp_ticks -> human-readable must be done on *display*, NOT on read-in&list-filling. I don't think it's nice to have calls from 2days ago listed like "today 1%:43"
Jul 21 14:53:41 <DocScrutinizer> 15:43 even
Jul 21 14:56:22 <DocScrutinizer> dos1: or is this ^ more sth for you? :-)
Jul 21 15:01:34 <TAsn> DocScrutinizer, how can you do that?
Jul 21 15:01:49 <TAsn> (make a display widget that calculates the time from a timestamp?
Jul 21 15:01:51 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: what?
Jul 21 15:01:59 <DocScrutinizer> aah
Jul 21 15:03:19 <DocScrutinizer> well, probably you need a lil-bit more than just a widget
Jul 21 15:04:16 <TAsn> :|
Jul 21 15:04:17 <DocScrutinizer> TAsn: otherwise:-> how can you make a widget refresh to include latest calls?
Jul 21 15:04:29 <TAsn> I meant
Jul 21 15:04:37 <TAsn> a widget that gets a unix epoch
Jul 21 15:04:42 <TAsn> and on draw
Jul 21 15:04:52 <TAsn> calculates the stringish date :)
Jul 21 15:05:01 <TAsn> as for refresh, the same as I do atm.
Jul 21 15:09:01 <ptitjes> current state of unstable is really really disapointing
Jul 21 15:09:16 <ptitjes> this makes now two weeks that there has been big regressions
Jul 21 15:09:22 <ptitjes> one can't call
Jul 21 15:09:39 <ptitjes> and if ever you can, you can only once
Jul 21 15:10:04 <ptitjes> I can't understand that people do not test their additions
Jul 21 15:11:14 <DocScrutinizer> ptitjes: +1
Jul 21 15:11:15 <ptitjes> people looks at what you added during those two weeks and find out why 20090703 works betters (even if gsm wasn't working after some time) than the 20090709 and those after
Jul 21 15:11:18 <TAsn> ptitjes, what are you talking about?
Jul 21 15:11:23 <ptitjes> please please please fix that
Jul 21 15:11:34 <TAsn> I don't think anyone added anything
Jul 21 15:11:41 <TAsn> furthermore, I use latest unstable
Jul 21 15:11:42 <ptitjes> TAsn: this makes from the 20090709 release that gsm do not work anymore
Jul 21 15:11:45 <TAsn> works like a charm
Jul 21 15:11:51 <Tig|undead> ptitjes: I am regretting upgrading today
Jul 21 15:11:53 <ptitjes> unstable was more stable one month ago
Jul 21 15:12:06 <TAsn> what exactly doesn't work with gsm?
Jul 21 15:12:10 <ptitjes> Tig|undead: I am regretting updating for two weeks now
Jul 21 15:12:13 <TAsn> oh ffs
Jul 21 15:12:14 <Ainulindale> ptitjes: i can call everytime
Jul 21 15:12:22 <TAsn> the sleep 3 bug
Jul 21 15:12:23 <TAsn> Tig|undead, 
Jul 21 15:12:28 <TAsn> ps aux | grep ophone
Jul 21 15:12:37 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: I never can call for two weeks now
Jul 21 15:12:44 <Tig|undead> TAsn: I have just put the sleep 3 work around in and still no go
Jul 21 15:12:52 <ptitjes> So I stay at 20090703
Jul 21 15:12:54 <Ainulindale> Well I don't know what you do but I can
Jul 21 15:12:56 <TAsn> ps aux | grep ophone
Jul 21 15:13:00 <TAsn> furthermore
Jul 21 15:13:05 <TAsn> Tig|undead, we already solved this issue
Jul 21 15:13:11 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: did you upgrade your kernel ?
Jul 21 15:13:15 <Ainulindale> Yep.
Jul 21 15:13:26 <TAsn> Ainulindale, mind building phonegui-efl and pyphonelog?
Jul 21 15:13:28 <ptitjes> what revision do you use for gsm firmware ?
Jul 21 15:13:34 <Ainulindale> moko11.
Jul 21 15:13:38 <TAsn> (for the add number stuff)
Jul 21 15:13:40 <TAsn> ptitjes, same here
Jul 21 15:13:46 <Ainulindale> TAsn: it's already there
Jul 21 15:13:47 <ptitjes> how can I know what firmware I have ?
Jul 21 15:13:50 <TAsn> though I was able to make calls without that
Jul 21 15:13:51 <Ainulindale> thanks to mrmoku|away 
Jul 21 15:13:54 <Tig|undead> TAsn: i have slightly bigger problems now,  I can't scroll to get to the terminal
Jul 21 15:13:54 <TAsn> ptitjes, shr-settings
Jul 21 15:13:57 <TAsn> mrmoku|away, thanks! :)
Jul 21 15:14:07 <TAsn> Tig|undead, how is that?
Jul 21 15:14:41 <Tig|undead> TAsn: it would not do it, went into setting and back and now working again 
Jul 21 15:15:18 <TAsn> hm. ;\
Jul 21 15:15:24 <TAsn> to tell you the truth
Jul 21 15:15:29 <TAsn> I'm using latest
Jul 21 15:15:30 <ptitjes> TAsn: the Phone part of shr-settings don't load
Jul 21 15:15:43 <TAsn> hm...
Jul 21 15:15:47 <ptitjes> TAsn: it stays blocked on "Please wait... Loading 3 modules"
Jul 21 15:15:49 <TAsn> ps aux | grep fsousage
Jul 21 15:15:53 <Tig|undead> TAsn: ophonekitd is running 
Jul 21 15:16:03 <TAsn> ptitjes, ^
Jul 21 15:16:19 <TAsn> we did 2 major things in that image
Jul 21 15:16:21 <TAsn> fso-abyss
Jul 21 15:16:24 <TAsn> and fsousage
Jul 21 15:16:29 <TAsn> both work perfectly
Jul 21 15:16:35 <TAsn> and were tested for a couple of weeks
Jul 21 15:17:57 <Ainulindale> ptitjes: Did you reflash or upgraded?
Jul 21 15:18:01 <ptitjes> fsousage is running
Jul 21 15:18:05 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: reflash
Jul 21 15:18:10 <ptitjes> I always reflash
Jul 21 15:18:12 <Ainulindale> I reflashed today
Jul 21 15:18:16 <Ainulindale> ANd I have no problem
Jul 21 15:18:34 <Tig|undead> Ainulindale:  I am seeing the same as ptitjes here and I upgraded 
Jul 21 15:20:01 <Ainulindale> Well without anny log I won't be of any help =)
Jul 21 15:20:03 <Ainulindale> -n
Jul 21 15:20:40 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: as you can see everything is not working :http://pastebin.com/m20b61778
Jul 21 15:21:20 <ptitjes> ohhhh, I did nothing particular and the Phone part of shr-settings finally open
Jul 21 15:21:25 <ptitjes> 1 minute!!!
Jul 21 15:21:33 <Ainulindale> That's because it has always been long
Jul 21 15:21:33 <ptitjes> is that normal ?
Jul 21 15:21:43 <ptitjes> that long ?
Jul 21 15:21:53 <Ainulindale> I have no idea
Jul 21 15:22:02 <Ainulindale> THis log has no interest to me without context ptitjes 
Jul 21 15:22:06 <ptitjes> TAsn: where do I find the firmware version ?
Jul 21 15:22:11 <Tig|undead> Right I am now getting a "Couldn't connect to FSO" in SHR-Settings
Jul 21 15:22:20 <TAsn> ptitjes, sec.
Jul 21 15:22:25 <Ainulindale> Tig|undead: /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart
Jul 21 15:22:30 <Tig|undead> is that a renamed version of "dbus is borked" 
Jul 21 15:22:31 <Ainulindale> Tig|undead: killall -9 ophonekitd
Jul 21 15:22:36 <Ainulindale> Tig|undead: killall gsm0710muxd
Jul 21 15:22:37 <TAsn> Tig|undead, aye.
Jul 21 15:22:40 <Ainulindale> did you reflash or upgraded?
Jul 21 15:22:46 <Tig|undead> Ainulindale: upgraded 
Jul 21 15:22:47 <Ainulindale> If you upgraded t hat's logical if you didn't reboot
Jul 21 15:22:52 <TAsn> ptitjes, modeinfo
Jul 21 15:22:54 <TAsn> modem info
Jul 21 15:22:58 <Tig|undead> rebooted about 5 or 6 times now
Jul 21 15:23:02 <TAsn> at the bottom
Jul 21 15:23:09 <TAsn> there's a revision section
Jul 21 15:23:12 <TAsn> scroll to the right
Jul 21 15:23:17 <Ainulindale> Tig|undead: I know that there was one time where dos1|away borked the sqlite database of opimd
Jul 21 15:23:33 <Ainulindale> Tig|undead: so I'd suggest
Jul 21 15:23:36 <Ainulindale> do what I just told
Jul 21 15:23:38 <Ainulindale> then
Jul 21 15:23:50 <Ainulindale> mv /etc/freesmartphone/opim/*.db ~
Jul 21 15:23:54 <Ainulindale> then reboot
Jul 21 15:24:02 <Ainulindale> or do
Jul 21 15:24:09 <Ainulindale> /etc/init.d/dbus* restart
Jul 21 15:24:15 <Ainulindale> /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart
Jul 21 15:24:22 <Ainulindale> DISPLAY=":0" ophonekitd&
Jul 21 15:24:39 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: the complete log: http://pastebin.com/m53b19c42
Jul 21 15:25:06 <ptitjes> TAsn: I clicked that but that do not show any progress
Jul 21 15:25:13 <TAsn> ptitjes, ;\
Jul 21 15:25:33 <ptitjes> TAsn: ah no the button came back to non clicked state
Jul 21 15:25:36 <ptitjes> TAsn: but nothing more
Jul 21 15:26:10 <Ainulindale> ptitjes: well that's obviously an opimd bug so try without it
Jul 21 15:26:26 <ptitjes> errr
Jul 21 15:26:30 <ptitjes> how do I try without it ?
Jul 21 15:26:47 <TAsn> ptitjes, mdbus
Jul 21 15:26:57 <TAsn> I don't remember the exact path
Jul 21 15:27:00 <ptitjes> and why does opimd make me fail a simple answering machine call in dialer ??
Jul 21 15:27:02 <TAsn> I think there's also an entry in the wiki
Jul 21 15:27:05 <TAsn> look in
Jul 21 15:27:19 <TAsn> gsm/flashing
Jul 21 15:27:25 <TAsn> om wiki entry
Jul 21 15:27:31 <Ainulindale> ptitjes: [opimd] disable =-1
Jul 21 15:27:31 <ptitjes> TAsn: I don't understand what should I do with mdbus ??
Jul 21 15:27:34 <Ainulindale> or something like that
Jul 21 15:27:41 <ptitjes> in frameworkd.conf ?
Jul 21 15:27:43 <TAsn> ptitjes, look at that entry...
Jul 21 15:27:46 <ptitjes> argggggggggg
Jul 21 15:28:01 <Ainulindale> If you're not calm, there's no way to help you ptitjes 
Jul 21 15:28:11 <Ainulindale> So, I was just saying
Jul 21 15:28:14 <Ainulindale> frameworkd.conf
Jul 21 15:28:16 <Ainulindale> [opimd]
Jul 21 15:28:17 <Ainulindale> disable = 1
Jul 21 15:28:25 <Ainulindale> restart frameworkd & ophonekitd
Jul 21 15:28:27 <Ainulindale> And check
Jul 21 15:28:30 <ptitjes> what does that mean: in Call settings : "Turn GSM on."
Jul 21 15:28:36 <ptitjes> GSM antenna is on
Jul 21 15:28:37 <dos1> ptitjes: Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted
Jul 21 15:28:51 <ptitjes> dos1: what ?
Jul 21 15:29:02 <dos1> ptitjes: on your pastebin
Jul 21 15:29:09 <dos1> ptitjes: how can i fix opimd withoud logs? :P
Jul 21 15:29:10 <Ainulindale> dos1: http://pastebin.com/m53b19c42
Jul 21 15:29:14 <dos1> s/oud/out/
Jul 21 15:29:15 <bzzbot> dos1 meant: ptitjes: how can i fix opimd without logs? :P
Jul 21 15:29:28 <ptitjes> dos1: I just pasted it
Jul 21 15:29:43 <dos1> hmm, ok, my bad
Jul 21 15:30:02 <dos1> o shit
Jul 21 15:30:06 * dos1 hides
Jul 21 15:30:21 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: when you say restart ophonekitd, should I restart X in fact ?
Jul 21 15:30:43 <Ainulindale> Ahem
Jul 21 15:30:50 <dos1> BTW. why for me opimd starts after ogsmd, and for others it starts before ogsmd?
Jul 21 15:30:57 <ptitjes> or just killall ophonekitd and start it manualy ?
Jul 21 15:31:05 <dos1> for me opimd starts ALWAYS after ogsmd
Jul 21 15:31:14 <dos1> so i'm not hitting that bug
Jul 21 15:31:20 <Ainulindale> dos1: because IIRC there's no ordering. It might also be due to bad configuration on our side
Jul 21 15:31:24 <dos1> anyway, fixing it now
Jul 21 15:31:49 <ptitjes> so ?
Jul 21 15:31:52 <Zorkman> Tig|undead: I upgraded and everythig seems to be fine
Jul 21 15:32:41 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: should I restart X or ophonekitd directly ?
Jul 21 15:32:52 <Tig|undead> Zorkman: mine bailed with errors which could have been part of the problem and I had to run the upgrade command twice
Jul 21 15:33:20 <ptitjes> heh
Jul 21 15:33:21 <CIA-54> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r29e5316c1376 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: opimd: SIM-Messages-FSO: fix fail when opimd starts before ogsmd
Jul 21 15:33:23 <ptitjes> yes
Jul 21 15:33:24 <ptitjes> no
Jul 21 15:33:25 <ptitjes> maybe
Jul 21 15:33:39 <dos1> ptitjes: killall -9 ophonekitd
Jul 21 15:33:44 <dos1> ptitjes: and after that open shr-settings
Jul 21 15:33:48 <dos1> ptitjes: and click on "Start"
Jul 21 15:33:49 <ptitjes> thank you
Jul 21 15:33:51 <dos1> ptitjes: and that's all ;P
Jul 21 15:34:28 <dos1> ptitjes: if you want try applying latest commit by hand and check if it works
Jul 21 15:34:55 <ptitjes> dos1: might it be that my gsm firmware version impact opimd ?
Jul 21 15:35:01 <dos1> ptitjes: no
Jul 21 15:35:07 <dos1> but...
Jul 21 15:35:09 <dos1> hmm
Jul 21 15:35:13 <ptitjes> so why does it don't work for me ?
Jul 21 15:35:30 <dos1> i don't think that opimd fail is cause of your problems...
Jul 21 15:35:46 <ptitjes> dos1: you should do a wrapper script for shr-settings
Jul 21 15:35:57 <ptitjes> so that one can do killall shr-settings
Jul 21 15:36:15 <dos1> that's only traceback in dbus listener which loads messages from SIM when it get ready
Jul 21 15:36:31 <TAsn> dos1, did you fix ordering?
Jul 21 15:36:35 <TAsn> in calls
Jul 21 15:36:44 <dos1> TAsn: yes, few days ago ;P
Jul 21 15:36:49 <ptitjes> dos1: also could you do a restart framework and ophonekitd button in settings
Jul 21 15:36:56 <dos1> ptitjes: it is
Jul 21 15:37:05 <dos1> ptitjes: shr-settings -> Services -> frameworkd -> restart :P
Jul 21 15:37:06 <ptitjes> dos1: so that one can resume operation without terminal
Jul 21 15:37:06 <TAsn> dos1, was just making sure... :)
Jul 21 15:37:17 <Ainulindale> (details...)
Jul 21 15:37:19 <ptitjes> dos1: no I mean something that does it all
Jul 21 15:37:20 <dos1> ptitjes: well, we should have stable ophonekitd :P
Jul 21 15:37:30 <ptitjes> dos1: it is not at all
Jul 21 15:37:37 <ptitjes> so user needs this
Jul 21 15:37:44 <dos1> for me it's uberstable now
Jul 21 15:37:52 <Ainulindale> Same here.
Jul 21 15:37:58 <dos1> when i started to use SHR, it was unstable as hell
Jul 21 15:38:01 <ptitjes> I almost had a very bad night with my GF last saturday because of that fucking software
Jul 21 15:38:04 <Ainulindale> Since we removed the phonelog blob it's far more better
Jul 21 15:38:05 <vinicius> hai guys
Jul 21 15:38:12 <vinicius> what about another package manager?
Jul 21 15:38:13 <dos1> but now it's good...
Jul 21 15:38:27 <dos1> vinicius: another than opkg?
Jul 21 15:38:47 <vinicius> more like yet another, I feel like reinventing the wheel =D
Jul 21 15:38:54 <dos1> ;x
Jul 21 15:38:57 <ptitjes> dos1: nothing more than before
Jul 21 15:39:03 <ptitjes> dos1: I launch dialer
Jul 21 15:39:08 <ptitjes> dos1: type 123
Jul 21 15:39:13 <ptitjes> dos1: press call
Jul 21 15:39:19 <ptitjes> dos1: and nothing happens
Jul 21 15:39:22 <dos1> ptitjes: try with gsm0710muxd
Jul 21 15:39:23 <dos1> instead of fso-abyss
Jul 21 15:39:26 <ptitjes> nothing at all
Jul 21 15:39:30 <dos1> i've had some problems with it
Jul 21 15:39:52 <dos1> which i need to debug :P
Jul 21 15:40:12 <ptitjes> dos1: can I get the firmware version without shr-settings
Jul 21 15:40:20 <ptitjes> (it is damned too slow)
Jul 21 15:40:31 <dos1> ptitjes: from modem or frameworkd
Jul 21 15:40:41 <dos1> ptitjes: but slowness of shr-settings is caused by slowness of frameworkd
Jul 21 15:40:46 <dos1> ptitjes: so it won't be better :P
Jul 21 15:40:57 <TAsn> shit
Jul 21 15:40:58 <CIA-54> SHR: 03tom 07shr * reae0bbc24574 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'tasns-audio-works' of git+ssh://git@shr.bearstech.com/shr
Jul 21 15:40:59 <CIA-54> SHR: 03tom 07shr * r6c98494d792e 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
Jul 21 15:40:59 <CIA-54> SHR: added phonegui_contacts_new_show that creates a 'new contact' window. if
Jul 21 15:40:59 <CIA-54> SHR: shr-apps is passed with an additional parametr, this parameter is treated as a
Jul 21 15:40:59 <CIA-54> SHR: phone number and starts the new contact window with this number already inserted
Jul 21 15:41:00 <TAsn> I think I did some mess ;\
Jul 21 15:41:01 <CIA-54> SHR: 03tom 07shr * r019b6db3a3d6 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/src/phonegui-contacts.h: added contacts_new_show to .h and fixed a typo there
Jul 21 15:41:04 <CIA-54> SHR: 03tom 07shr * rca89d91d0842 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/src/view/message-show-view.c: added add contact button to shr-messages
Jul 21 15:41:08 <TAsn> shit
Jul 21 15:41:09 <ptitjes> dos1: Phone part of shr-settings don't even show up
Jul 21 15:41:09 <CIA-54> SHR: 03tom 07shr * r144f74896742 10/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added audio handling, renamed a lot of stuff, fixed a couple of issue (summary: a mess)
Jul 21 15:41:10 <TAsn> wtf
Jul 21 15:41:11 <TAsn> ?!
Jul 21 15:41:14 <CIA-54> SHR: 03tom 07shr * r09bd1517f808 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git+ssh://git@shr.bearstech.com/shr into tasns-audio-works
Jul 21 15:41:33 <TAsn> sec
Jul 21 15:41:41 <dos1> ptitjes: debug it
Jul 21 15:41:49 <TAsn> wtf did I just do?!
Jul 21 15:41:51 <ptitjes> debug what ?
Jul 21 15:41:51 <dos1> ptitjes: that's not shr-settings issue :P
Jul 21 15:42:00 <dos1> ptitjes: frameworkd
Jul 21 15:42:08 <dos1> ptitjes: as i said, check with gsm0710muxd instead of fso-abyss
Jul 21 15:42:12 <ptitjes> dos1: yes it is shr-settings
Jul 21 15:42:20 <Ainulindale> TAsn: you branched
Jul 21 15:42:25 <Ainulindale> and merge master into your branch
Jul 21 15:42:27 <ptitjes> dos1: nothing turns, blinks, and widgets do not show
Jul 21 15:42:38 <ptitjes> dos1: your UI is blocked by something
Jul 21 15:42:40 <TAsn> Ainulindale, that's not what I intended to do
Jul 21 15:42:46 <dos1> ptitjes: by dbus call to frameworkd...
Jul 21 15:42:46 <TAsn> though I don't think it's a bad thing
Jul 21 15:42:46 <Ainulindale> ptitjes: he told you. The framework.
Jul 21 15:42:47 <ptitjes> dos1: like if it was not multithreaded
Jul 21 15:42:50 <dos1> ptitjes: not all calls are async
Jul 21 15:42:57 <TAsn> as everyone agreed in ML
Jul 21 15:42:57 <dos1> ptitjes: and it's not multithreaded ;)
Jul 21 15:43:02 <ptitjes> dos1: can't you make those call in a thread ?
Jul 21 15:43:05 <TAsn> I did'nt want to do that though ;\
Jul 21 15:43:08 <ptitjes> ?????
Jul 21 15:43:19 <TAsn> anyhow, master now includes tasns-audio-works ;\
Jul 21 15:43:27 <dos1> ptitjes: thread? why for?
Jul 21 15:43:33 <dos1> ptitjes: just async
Jul 21 15:43:35 <dos1> :P
Jul 21 15:43:46 <ptitjes> dos1: and why gui ?
Jul 21 15:43:48 <ptitjes> then
Jul 21 15:43:54 <ptitjes> why phone ?
Jul 21 15:43:58 <ptitjes> why software ?
Jul 21 15:44:00 <TAsn> anyhow Ainulindale 
Jul 21 15:44:07 <TAsn> it's the commit from my mail
Jul 21 15:44:12 <dos1> ptitjes: ...
Jul 21 15:44:12 <TAsn> do you mind that I committed it?
Jul 21 15:44:14 <Ainulindale> I k now TAsn 
Jul 21 15:44:19 <ptitjes> one can close a circuit to make a call
Jul 21 15:44:22 <TAsn> (as everyone agreed on committing it)
Jul 21 15:44:30 <dos1> ptitjes: async callbacks will give everythink you mean by "use threads"
Jul 21 15:44:34 <dos1> s/think/thing/
Jul 21 15:44:35 <bzzbot> dos1 meant: ptitjes: async callbacks will give everything you mean by "use threads"
Jul 21 15:44:39 <ptitjes> dos1: nah
Jul 21 15:44:42 <Ainulindale> TAsn: Well I don't but I'd have liked everyone to agree
Jul 21 15:44:44 <ptitjes> you are wrong
Jul 21 15:44:45 <dos1> ptitjes: yeh
Jul 21 15:44:47 <Ainulindale> But everyone seems not to care so...
Jul 21 15:44:50 <dos1> :P
Jul 21 15:44:54 <TAsn> Ainulindale, aye, that's what I think
Jul 21 15:45:05 <dos1> ptitjes: i don't care. i care you are not testing with gsm0710muxd
Jul 21 15:45:06 <dos1> :P
Jul 21 15:45:08 <ptitjes> dos1: async do not solve your own processing
Jul 21 15:45:15 <ptitjes> to be in the same thread as gui
Jul 21 15:45:19 <TAsn> though ptitjes agreed, and I think two more agreed as well
Jul 21 15:45:27 <ptitjes> dos1: that is all the dbus circuitery to make the calls
Jul 21 15:45:27 <TAsn> and DocScrutinizer also thinks it's a goodidea
Jul 21 15:45:28 <dos1> ptitjes: but my own processing is only displaying gui!
Jul 21 15:45:29 <dos1> :P
Jul 21 15:45:40 <ptitjes> dos1: and making the dbus calls
Jul 21 15:45:42 <ptitjes> right ?
Jul 21 15:46:04 <ptitjes> dos1: GUI needs its own thread
Jul 21 15:46:08 <dos1> ptitjes: yes, but it they are async, then everything is ok
Jul 21 15:46:12 <ptitjes> I am bored to repeat that every time
Jul 21 15:46:28 <dos1> ptitjes: i think i'll got bored with repeating you, to test gsm0710muxd
Jul 21 15:46:56 <ptitjes> shr-settings finally restarted
Jul 21 15:47:04 <ptitjes> but gsm antenna was off
Jul 21 15:47:20 <dos1> ptitjes: don't care about shr-settings, test gsm0710muxd
Jul 21 15:47:34 <TAsn> I have a question
Jul 21 15:47:35 <ptitjes> surprisingly the gsm widget in drawer was still indicating stuff
Jul 21 15:47:38 <TAsn> and I need serious answers
Jul 21 15:47:47 <ptitjes> this software is so much incoherent
Jul 21 15:48:00 <TAsn> would anyone appreciate me making opkg use sqlite instead of text files?
Jul 21 15:48:11 <TAsn> (would be fast)
Jul 21 15:48:22 <ptitjes> TAsn: fix the phone before making new features
Jul 21 15:48:24 <ptitjes> :p
Jul 21 15:48:33 <TAsn> that's a fix.
Jul 21 15:48:41 <dos1> ptitjes: test gsm0710muxd to allow us to fix the phone
Jul 21 15:48:52 <ptitjes> dos1: what should I do ?
Jul 21 15:48:58 <dos1> finally!
Jul 21 15:49:07 <dos1> ptitjes: just s/fso-abyss/gsm0710muxd/ in /etc/frameworkd.conf
Jul 21 15:49:28 <dos1> ptitjes: and reboot (or restart frameworkd, fso-abyss, fsousaged and ophonekitd, but i think reboot is simplier :P)
Jul 21 15:49:57 <ptitjes> reboting
Jul 21 15:50:14 <dos1> ptitjes: and make sure you have gsm0710muxd installed
Jul 21 15:50:16 <dos1> :D
Jul 21 15:50:23 <dos1> but it should be
Jul 21 15:50:40 <ptitjes> I hope because it is too late
Jul 21 15:51:28 <ptitjes> dos1: you should really make unit tests for every of your stuff
Jul 21 15:51:40 <dos1> ptitjes: i do
Jul 21 15:51:48 <dos1> as i said, everything works ok here
Jul 21 15:51:48 <ptitjes> dos1: sorry this was not only directed to you
Jul 21 15:52:51 <ptitjes> dos1: I may be blind but I don't see any unit tests here: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-settings.git;a=tree
Jul 21 15:53:11 <dos1> hmm, so i misunderstood unit tests
Jul 21 15:53:16 <dos1> what do you mean by that?
Jul 21 15:53:21 <ptitjes> ok
Jul 21 15:53:26 <ptitjes> I see now :)
Jul 21 15:53:41 <ptitjes> dos1: google that and you will understand
Jul 21 15:53:48 <ptitjes> why our software is not stable
Jul 21 15:53:56 <ptitjes> and why we have regressions all the time
Jul 21 15:54:07 <ptitjes> because noe of our software has unit tests
Jul 21 15:54:19 <Ainulindale> Does ophonekitd vala have unit tests?
Jul 21 15:54:31 <ptitjes> nope
Jul 21 15:54:35 <ptitjes> not yet
Jul 21 15:54:40 <Ainulindale> And libmodulo?
Jul 21 15:54:43 <ptitjes> muxd works
Jul 21 15:54:51 <ptitjes> yep
Jul 21 15:54:57 <ptitjes> the samples
Jul 21 15:55:01 <dos1> mickey|dinner: there are some problems with fso-abyss
Jul 21 15:55:03 <Ainulindale> That's not unit testing
Jul 21 15:55:04 <ptitjes> but I agree I should make more
Jul 21 15:55:17 <dos1> mickey|dinner: i'll try to provide logs today
Jul 21 15:55:17 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: that right but those are new software
Jul 21 15:55:29 <dos1> mickey|dinner: before you'll end eating your dinner :D
Jul 21 15:55:33 <Ainulindale> That's the lamest excuse I ever heard
Jul 21 15:55:38 <Ainulindale> Anyway I'm off
Jul 21 15:56:00 <ptitjes> dos1: hummm... but not twice
Jul 21 15:56:15 <ptitjes> shiiiiiit
Jul 21 15:56:20 <ptitjes> I want a phone
Jul 21 15:58:44 <ptitjes> it seems it unregisters from network
Jul 21 15:58:59 <ptitjes> by itself
Jul 21 15:59:20 <CIA-54> SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-themes * r0c164b58a270 10/frameworkd/frameworkd-config-shr/om-gta02/rules.yaml: frameworkd-config-shr: comment out occupying CPU resource on call. ophonekitd already prevents suspend when in call
Jul 21 16:00:31 <ptitjes> dos1, Ainulindale: both log from frameworkd and ophonekitd http://pastebin.com/m440cbe72
Jul 21 16:02:49 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: have you seen that ? #
Jul 21 16:02:50 <ptitjes> Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Jul 21 16:02:59 <dos1> ptitjes: nothing bad in this log
Jul 21 16:03:03 <ptitjes> is this libframeworkd-glib ?
Jul 21 16:03:05 <dos1> ptitjes: and you can ugnore that
Jul 21 16:03:08 <dos1> ptitjes: it's dbus
Jul 21 16:03:23 <dos1> ptitjes: more accurate: that's dbus patch applied by us
Jul 21 16:03:36 <ptitjes> dos1: but the call is made by libframeworkd-glib (a deprecated and maybe unmaintained code)
Jul 21 16:04:01 <ptitjes> dos1: what about the end of the framewokrd log ?
Jul 21 16:04:07 <dos1> ptitjes: no, that's due to dbus bindings/libraries
Jul 21 16:04:15 <ptitjes> 2009.07.21 17:54:35.242 ogsmd                INFO     full readyness now False
Jul 21 16:04:18 <ptitjes> is that normal ?
Jul 21 16:04:32 <dos1> ptitjes: hmm
Jul 21 16:04:56 <dos1> ptitjes: but log doesn't say anything
Jul 21 16:05:03 <dos1> ptitjes: try with log_level = DEBUG
Jul 21 16:05:23 <ptitjes> and then reboot right ?
Jul 21 16:05:59 <dos1> ptitjes: yep. or restart ophonekitd and frameworkd
Jul 21 16:06:30 <ptitjes> I have a white screen at each boot now that I switched to muxd
Jul 21 16:06:44 <ptitjes> during 1 or 2 seconds
Jul 21 16:06:58 <dos1> ptitjes: at each boot or at each reboot?
Jul 21 16:07:09 <ptitjes> each reboot maybe
Jul 21 16:07:32 <dos1> then that's normal
Jul 21 16:07:41 <ptitjes> I must say I force poweroff and relaunch every time
Jul 21 16:07:52 <dos1> it was even year ago :P
Jul 21 16:11:35 <ptitjes> dos1: humm I did call three times my answering machine this time...
Jul 21 16:13:28 <ptitjes> dos1: here it is : http://pastebin.com/m8e800c9
Jul 21 16:17:16 <ptitjes> dos1: I can't see what is the problem...
Jul 21 16:17:43 <ptitjes> dos1: but I can't phone anymore
Jul 21 16:28:22 <Zorkman> phoning is so 90"s :)
Jul 21 16:31:07 <Zorkman> sending letters is back "in"
Jul 21 16:31:11 <Zorkman> wish my FR could do that :(
Jul 21 16:32:27 <thrashold> Do what? :)
Jul 21 16:34:00 <Zorkman> send paper letters
Jul 21 16:34:39 <Zorkman> maybe even lick the stamp!
Jul 21 16:35:08 <thrashold> It can. You just connect to the printer via USB and WiFi and some python script to do the job, and you're done
Jul 21 16:35:12 <dos1> Zorkman: so start implementing it! ;)
Jul 21 16:36:14 <thrashold> It needs some elementary GUI for SMS/Mail/Snail mail. Would LaTeX be too heavy to generate the snail mail versioN? :D
Jul 21 16:37:13 <dos1> thrashold: PaulFertser will say that emacs can do that for free with familiar keybindings ;)
Jul 21 16:39:03 <ptitjes> I think I won't test anymore the distro
Jul 21 16:39:12 <ptitjes> I just miss a call for a work
Jul 21 16:39:17 <ptitjes> I think this can't continue
Jul 21 16:39:27 <ptitjes> This makes two months that people complain
Jul 21 16:39:31 <ptitjes> I won't test anymore
Jul 21 16:39:37 <ptitjes> Sorry
Jul 21 16:50:35 <Ainulindale> Any autoconf guru able to tell how to prevent configure tests using export?
Jul 21 16:51:01 <Ainulindale> ptitjes: and your remark is not compliant with a core team membership
Jul 21 16:51:36 <ptitjes> Ainulindale: this is why I'm currently writing a mail dedicated to the core team to announce my demission of th project
Jul 21 16:52:26 <Ainulindale> Ok
Jul 21 16:54:30 <soltys> :<
Jul 21 16:59:15 <thrashold> Can anyone suggest a mime database that I can utilise on the FR from Python? python-xdg takes 3 seconds to start and takes 2 MB RAM for a small number of installed applications. Does E libraries offer something? Or I should hack a MIME db daemon (possibly storing everything in a SQLite db)? 
Jul 21 16:59:48 <lindi-> thrashold: libmagic?
Jul 21 17:00:21 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, finally hi!)
Jul 21 17:00:50 <Ainulindale> ah!
Jul 21 17:00:58 <Ainulindale> Attempting to crossemerge here :-)
Jul 21 17:01:17 <max_posedon> fine, I hope you do it with openmoko-overlay and openmoko profile
Jul 21 17:01:34 <Ainulindale> Nope
Jul 21 17:01:51 <Ainulindale> I'm having some fun with crossdev x86_64 => x86 for the time being
Jul 21 17:02:00 <Ainulindale> Because that's my need now :-)
Jul 21 17:03:18 <max_posedon> ah, as you wish)
Jul 21 17:03:56 <thrashold> lindi-: I want to get applications/icons not file type :)
Jul 21 17:04:24 <lindi-> thrashold: is applications/icons a mime type?
Jul 21 17:04:31 <thrashold> No :)
Jul 21 17:05:03 <Ainulindale> max_posedon: But I intend to play with the overlay as well :-)
Jul 21 17:05:06 <lindi-> grhm, openmoko should really have come with Y-cable or equivalent
Jul 21 17:07:37 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: where's the problem?
Jul 21 17:08:10 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i'm afraid to build one myself :) and it won't be tiny and pretty
Jul 21 17:08:18 <thrashold> lindi-: Thinking about it again, I don't need applications for now, and libmagic will work for me, thanks
Jul 21 17:08:25 <Ainulindale> max_posedon: I was wondering how you'd solve checking whether btowc(EOF) is correct... configure: error: in `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/m4-1.4.13/work/m4-1.4.13':
Jul 21 17:09:14 <max_posedon> hm.. I hope you use crossdev-wrappers
Jul 21 17:09:19 <max_posedon> don't you?
Jul 21 17:09:21 <Ainulindale> Yep
Jul 21 17:10:02 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: get a ycable for e.g. external usb-drive (or other crap that needs >500mA). Then augment this by somehow retrofitting the 2pcs 12k pulldowns
Jul 21 17:10:09 <max_posedon> I never tried to cross compile it, let me try...
Jul 21 17:11:06 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, btw, you cross compiliing with nls/unicode/etc or without it?
Jul 21 17:11:20 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: my usb-kbd even worked without pulldown Rs
Jul 21 17:11:25 <Ainulindale> max_posedon: with
Jul 21 17:11:36 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: iirc
Jul 21 17:12:51 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: and btw, compared to wallcharger that you need anyway, any y-cable or small modded hub is<ät that bulky
Jul 21 17:14:10 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: i rarely use my wallcharger
Jul 21 17:14:46 <DocScrutinizer> hmmmpf... so what for a y-cable???
Jul 21 17:14:59 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: external usb batteries
Jul 21 17:15:53 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: that way I can operate e.g. 3g usb stick, keep the internal battery charged and drain the external usb batteries only
Jul 21 17:16:00 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, cross compiled for me, so, could you show build.log?
Jul 21 17:23:09 <Ainulindale> max_posedon: yep
Jul 21 17:23:39 <Ainulindale> max_posedon: www.calaquendi.org/om/build.log
Jul 21 17:23:43 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: my 3G stick came with €-cable :-P
Jul 21 17:23:44 <Ainulindale> (didn't look at it yet)
Jul 21 17:24:30 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: EUR cable?
Jul 21 17:24:38 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: (charge internal from external bat) no good idea - you can have *loss* of >50%
Jul 21 17:24:51 <DocScrutinizer> Y-cable
Jul 21 17:30:23 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, 403
Jul 21 17:35:01 <Ainulindale> Fixed
Jul 21 17:36:05 <mrmoku> F4t, something to build? :P
Jul 21 17:36:57 <morphis> heyho
Jul 21 17:37:43 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, could you also post config.log please?
Jul 21 17:37:56 <mrmoku> F4t, hmm... looks like not so
Jul 21 17:38:36 <Ainulindale> Done max_posedon 
Jul 21 17:46:19 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, I know how to easy fix it, but don't know why it happens for you
Jul 21 17:46:52 <max_posedon> just add gl_cv_func_btowc_eof=yes to site config (in way similar to OE)
Jul 21 17:47:03 <max_posedon> (/usr/share/crossdev/include/site)
Jul 21 17:49:37 <max_posedon> ah, I know, you bug is that you from France)
Jul 21 17:49:50 <max_posedon> LOCALE_FR != none for you)
Jul 21 17:54:27 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, and plz run m4 native compilation
Jul 21 17:54:41 <max_posedon> and check should gl_cv_func_btowc_eof be yes or no
Jul 21 18:13:31 <max_posedon> Ainulindale, crossdev-wrappers will have fix in a 0.5-1h, thanks for reporting
Jul 21 18:28:05 <morphis> any openocd expert available?
Jul 21 18:28:16 <morphis> advanced user should always enough
Jul 21 18:28:49 <pbaxter> hiya all :)
Jul 21 18:28:58 <pbaxter> how's SHR going with new version of FSO?
Jul 21 18:39:52 <mrmoku> F4t, ping
Jul 21 18:52:34 <F4t> dear god, latest upgrade is so broken
Jul 21 18:53:59 <F4t> frameworkd: http://pastebin.com/m45578110
Jul 21 18:57:10 <mrmoku> F4t, huh?
Jul 21 18:57:40 <mrmoku> when doing what?
Jul 21 18:57:51 <F4t> got that exception from frameworkd... ophonekitd and frameworkd are not running at boot, phonelog is missing, and half the icons...
Jul 21 18:58:37 <F4t> trying to turn off wifi give me..
Jul 21 18:58:45 <F4t> close failed in file object destructor:
Jul 21 18:58:45 <F4t> IOError: [Errno 19] No such device
Jul 21 18:58:54 <F4t> on the frameworkd...
Jul 21 19:00:10 <bumbl> F4t: broken? daily bussiness i call it ;)
Jul 21 19:00:18 <F4t> lol
Jul 21 19:01:36 <mrmoku> F4t, looks like upgrading does not work correctly :P
Jul 21 19:01:49 <F4t> mrmoku, oh really? :)
Jul 21 19:05:12 <F4t> no matter what i reinstall, opkg keeps reconfiguring the same packages aftewards...
Jul 21 19:05:27 <F4t> Configuring libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0
Jul 21 19:05:29 <F4t> Configuring libfsobasics0
Jul 21 19:05:31 <F4t> Configuring connman
Jul 21 19:05:33 <F4t>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/connman already exist.
Jul 21 19:05:35 <F4t> Restarting Connection Manager
Jul 21 19:05:37 <F4t> Configuring libfsotransport0
Jul 21 19:05:39 <F4t> Configuring dropbear
Jul 21 19:05:40 <F4t>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/dropbear already exist.
Jul 21 19:05:43 <F4t> Restarting Dropbear SSH server:
Jul 21 19:05:45 <F4t> 
Jul 21 19:05:50 <F4t> :(
Jul 21 19:09:53 <mrmoku> no error?
Jul 21 19:10:13 <F4t> sec ill check, since im doing it over ssh... :-/
Jul 21 19:11:25 <tmzt> is your clock right?
Jul 21 19:12:01 <F4t> bah, its configuring everythin... :-/
Jul 21 19:12:14 <dos11> F4t: run it from vala-terminal
Jul 21 19:12:17 <F4t> connman.postinst returned 1
Jul 21 19:13:32 <F4t> tmzt, clock seems to be right
Jul 21 19:14:12 <tmzt> why wouldn't you get an error running over ssh?
Jul 21 19:14:19 <tmzt> maybe try -t
Jul 21 19:14:31 <F4t> tmzt, it kills the ssh every time it restarts dropbear
Jul 21 19:14:42 <F4t> onw im doing the reinstalls from vala-terminal
Jul 21 19:14:44 <tmzt> ah, right
Jul 21 19:14:45 <F4t> now*
Jul 21 19:14:59 <F4t> seems like it stopped doing insane configuring of everything each time
Jul 21 19:15:34 <tmzt> I see, it was actually killing your configure process
Jul 21 19:15:36 <F4t> could my upgrade been messed up due to me doing it from ssh?
Jul 21 19:20:27 <mrmoku> yep, because it was updating dropbear
Jul 21 19:20:36 <mrmoku> which will kill your ssh session
Jul 21 19:20:45 * mrmoku should have made that clear in his mail :(
Jul 21 19:20:53 <mrmoku> forgot about that, sorry
Jul 21 19:20:58 <Sharwin_F> just upgraded from feeds now and I think everything it's working here ;)
Jul 21 19:21:16 <Sharwin_F> I used screen to upgrade
Jul 21 19:21:24 <Sharwin_F> :)
Jul 21 19:22:03 <Andre613> hey guys... using SHR testing image. I was wondering if the updated libraries for intone-video were available
Jul 21 19:22:47 <mrmoku> Sharwin_F, hehe, yeah that works of course :)
Jul 21 19:23:14 <Blu3> andre613, see the intone section at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/July_23%2C_2009
Jul 21 19:23:29 <Andre613> Thanks Blu3
Jul 21 19:23:50 <bumbl> screen rocks
Jul 21 19:24:11 <Blu3> y/w
Jul 21 19:24:34 <F4t> does anyone have a list of packages that were updated in latest update? i need to reinstall them all now...
Jul 21 19:25:01 <mrmoku> F4t, really?
Jul 21 19:27:17 <Sharwin_F> mrmoku, oh, and I think which actually breaks ssh session is upgrading connmand, is it possible? :)
Jul 21 19:30:24 <mrmoku> Sharwin_F, well connman upgrade interrupts networking... but just for a moment until it is restarted
Jul 21 19:30:38 <mrmoku> dropbear is known to kill all open sessions on update
Jul 21 19:30:47 <Sharwin_F> ok :)
Jul 21 19:31:08 <Sharwin_F> oh, and had to stop frameworkd and xserver due to lack of mem :)
Jul 21 19:31:13 <tmzt> it downs the interface?
Jul 21 19:35:15 <F4t> whats the package name that has contacts icon, and messages, and terminal
Jul 21 19:38:08 <mrmoku> F4t, should be shr-messages, shr-contacts and vala-terminal
Jul 21 19:38:47 <F4t> mrmoku, ok
Jul 21 19:39:52 <F4t> mrmoku, nop, icon is still missing from contacts...
Jul 21 19:43:47 <mrmoku> F4t, try to touch any .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
Jul 21 19:43:52 <Sharwin_F> has someone tried using PC speakers as handsfree from the FR?
Jul 21 19:43:55 <mrmoku> it might be that it just does not reload them
Jul 21 19:47:21 <F4t> mrmoku, reloaded it, still no...
Jul 21 19:48:42 <F4t> icon=openmoko-contacts where is it searching for it?
Jul 21 19:53:47 <F4t> ok found it... /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps is empty... what installs it?
Jul 21 20:00:09 <F4t> yay, got icons sorted out...
Jul 21 20:02:47 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: abend
Jul 21 20:06:11 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, hey
Jul 21 20:06:50 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, how is the cell db for sweden?
Jul 21 20:07:21 <BluesLee> cant install fso-abyss??
Jul 21 20:07:50 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: a git question for you: under SF, you have only one git repo. You cannot have many projects as git.freesmartphone.org, par exemple. do you know how I could have directories in my git repo, each with a separated history. submodule?
Jul 21 20:08:17 <lindi-> onen|openBmap: just create multiple projects?
Jul 21 20:08:30 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: sweden, I think it is pretty scarce. But IIRC someone told me he planned vacations there, you should hurry ;-)
Jul 21 20:09:02 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: hi. on SF you cannot. gitroot/SF_project_name/your_code_tree
Jul 21 20:09:27 <lindi-> onen|openBmap: but just create multiple sf projects
Jul 21 20:09:31 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: SF_project_name would be like cornucopia in fso git page forexemple
Jul 21 20:10:12 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: yeah... but no. I would like the people to come to one place to find everything about obm. so I tend to dislike this solution
Jul 21 20:10:47 <lindi-> onen|openBmap: alternatively you could use some free hosting system :)
Jul 21 20:10:53 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: when you got to git.freesmartphone.org, you see all the related projects
Jul 21 20:11:10 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: what do you mean? move to another place than SF?
Jul 21 20:11:14 <lindi-> onen|openBmap: yeah
Jul 21 20:11:42 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: yes I know
Jul 21 20:11:52 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: thanks for your input
Jul 21 20:11:53 <lindi-> since sf has not released their source code
Jul 21 20:12:06 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: launchpad just did :-)
Jul 21 20:12:21 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, hope it was me ;)
Jul 21 20:12:26 <lindi-> onen|openBmap: possibly, i have not investigated yet. and it's not in debian yet ;-)
Jul 21 20:12:42 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: thanks for your help
Jul 21 20:13:17 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: is it the logs from about 2 hours ago (notification on twitter/obm website)?
Jul 21 20:13:49 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, nah, that was just 2 or 3 cells in munich
Jul 21 20:13:59 <mrmoku> I'm going to sweden end of August
Jul 21 20:14:15 <mrmoku> and might take two different SIMs with me ;)
Jul 21 20:14:26 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: that's the spirit I like!
Jul 21 20:15:03 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, regarding git... I agree with lindi that there are better places than SF :P
Jul 21 20:15:23 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: I did a road trip, went through a 1000 cells, and got ... 250 more in obm :-( it seems half of the way was mapped, and the other half was country side with little cells :'-(
Jul 21 20:15:26 <mrmoku> and submodules just would complicate your life for that
Jul 21 20:15:43 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: lindi-: git places suggestions?
Jul 21 20:17:31 <lindi-> onen|openBmap: i don't frankly have much experience but maybe savannah and github?
Jul 21 20:18:22 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: git hub?
Jul 21 20:23:26 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, why not freesmartphone.org?
Jul 21 20:23:46 <mrmoku> I think it would fit there
Jul 21 20:28:52 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, if not I think github would be fine
Jul 21 20:29:36 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: I would like it to be fso. as I want to start working on the dbus service to give your lcoation out of the gsm current infos
Jul 21 20:30:57 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: but I prefer to wait for shoragan to have time to see this with him. maybe I should not. I could start with a first implementation and see later
Jul 21 20:31:37 <onen|openBmap> lindi-: [Rui] mrmoku: thanks all for your help. I'll see.
Jul 21 20:33:13 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: is that new screenie on scap from you?
Jul 21 20:33:22 <Zorkman> oh damn, got to go, talk/read maybe later
Jul 21 20:33:29 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: no
Jul 21 20:33:34 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: which one?
Jul 21 20:33:38 <Zorkman> anyway: saw that n° of cells is increasing in openbmap, that is good
Jul 21 20:33:46 <Zorkman> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/8c3a56e8a31d911a92c0f477cb16499f.png
Jul 21 20:34:14 <Zorkman> you could make a graph with number of cells over time in the db, people (e.g. me) like that kind of stuff :)
Jul 21 20:34:18 <Zorkman> bye!
Jul 21 20:40:59 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: hey but that is the new GUI, but it is not built in the feeds, recipe added
Jul 21 20:41:17 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: should be in the feeds next building round
Jul 21 20:45:07 <[Rui]> how's today's SHR?
Jul 21 20:45:11 <[Rui]> anyone knows?
Jul 21 20:46:03 <mrmoku> [Rui], looks good... at least if you reflash
Jul 21 20:46:38 <mrmoku> upgrade creates problems if done via ssh
Jul 21 20:47:04 <mrmoku> because it will update dropbear
Jul 21 20:47:20 <mrmoku> and your mileage may very depending on where you come from
Jul 21 20:47:25 <mrmoku> (what you have installed now)
Jul 21 20:51:40 <agg1n> i have shr-unstable on sdcard, can i boot from nand and just overwrite the files on sd with the new image?
Jul 21 20:51:56 <mrmoku> agg1n, yep
Jul 21 20:52:07 <mrmoku> well overwrite better not
Jul 21 20:52:15 <[Rui]> is the new opimd already in the unstable version?
Jul 21 20:52:16 <mrmoku> mke2fs it and unpack the tar.gz
Jul 21 20:52:32 <agg1n> mrmoku: ok, thanks
Jul 21 20:52:33 <mrmoku> [Rui], yep, frameworkd is on AUTOREV
Jul 21 20:54:39 <mrmoku> TAsn, ping
Jul 21 20:54:48 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: ouch, I am currently opkg upgrading my unstable
Jul 21 20:54:55 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: let's see in the end ;-)
Jul 21 20:54:57 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, via ssh?
Jul 21 20:55:06 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: what else ;-)
Jul 21 20:55:11 <mrmoku> vala-terminal :;P
Jul 21 20:55:32 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, as soon as it upgrades dropbear you will be kicked off and the upgrade will be interrupted
Jul 21 20:55:45 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: but I cannot remember if I have not installed openssh instead of dropbear, so we'll see
Jul 21 20:55:54 <mrmoku> ahh, ok :)
Jul 21 20:56:07 <johnsu01> or use screen
Jul 21 20:56:11 <Meomer> how is the dependency handling if i have openssh anyway and removed dropbear? :)
Jul 21 20:56:33 <mrmoku> Meomer, should just work
Jul 21 20:56:40 * [Rui] hms...
Jul 21 21:07:02 <Zorkman> just opkg upgrade from the phone....
Jul 21 21:07:13 <Zorkman> that's what i did
Jul 21 21:08:13 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: why would you use LAt: 45.3... in your gui?
Jul 21 21:08:24 <Zorkman> those three dots take as much space as two number would
Jul 21 21:08:40 <Zorkman> *numbers
Jul 21 21:08:44 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: pfff, not even released, and user already complain :P
Jul 21 21:08:56 <Zorkman> so just show 45.326 instead of 45.3...
Jul 21 21:08:57 <F4t> :P
Jul 21 21:09:11 <Zorkman> :D
Jul 21 21:09:19 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: first I wanted to release before risto going on vacation.
Jul 21 21:09:40 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: 2. I wanted to have feedback soon better than late, in case I was going in the wrond direction
Jul 21 21:09:49 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: I don't care as long as it works :)
Jul 21 21:10:01 <Zorkman> have a new sim, when i can I will do some logging
Jul 21 21:10:23 <Zorkman> (because have to use the sim for work, and i'm playing toom uch with shr to depend on it)
Jul 21 21:10:37 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: so I used the automatic gtk property from label to elipsize(?) the text.
Jul 21 21:11:13 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: I agree, that it is not good enough. speed sometimes is xxx.... the last three dots being the elipse
Jul 21 21:12:26 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: as people suggested, lat/lon/etc. is not that interesting in an app as obm. so they stay small, more as extra data
Jul 21 21:13:08 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: the most interesting parts are bigger. so that youcould put your FR next to your car steering wheel, and see speed, cell id, and gsm cells statistics
Jul 21 21:13:34 <von_fritz> onen|openBmap have tried your app in my car... refresh is slow and speed not accurate, but it's a  logger and not a tachometer :D 
Jul 21 21:14:04 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: i agree that they are not of much interest of this program, but then i would a) don't show them   or b) don't show the dots but usefull characters
Jul 21 21:14:32 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: precisely. at the moment you would get update if GSM info changes, or a logging loop runs (every 10 sec by default)
Jul 21 21:15:11 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: I could of course improve it. but I don't see obm as a full gps app. and I fear it would drain battery for sth it is not designed for
Jul 21 21:15:19 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: maybe make two gui's? one like this for those who want it, and one for the "hard-core-loggers" :D
Jul 21 21:15:57 <von_fritz> but why the speed idication?
Jul 21 21:16:10 <Zorkman> the second one would only show serving cell, Lac, strenght, acces type, the neighbouring cells, the cells sseen since start/launch
Jul 21 21:16:18 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: b) agree. a) I am thinking about it, in fact
Jul 21 21:17:01 <Zorkman> maybe some users of openbmap use it to look at speed/lat&long, but I for one don't
Jul 21 21:17:05 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: make multiple guis of course is possible, but not too willing to maintain both for now. I prefer to find a common ground good enough
Jul 21 21:17:16 <Zorkman> I can stare at it and wait for the serving cell to change though :)
Jul 21 21:17:56 <mrmoku> Zorkman, that is why there is the speed limit... otherwise it would be tooo dangerous :P
Jul 21 21:18:12 <Zorkman> lol :)
Jul 21 21:18:47 <agg1n> anyone interested in writing elementary apps in vala which use dbus? there has to be anyone who also wants this!!!! :<
Jul 21 21:18:50 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: speed indication: because I thought it would be sth interesting to have on screen if I lay my FR to look at it while driving. it is a first attempt at making sth better than a few labels as before. hope people won't tell me it was better the old gui ;-)
Jul 21 21:19:08 <mrmoku> agg1n, there is lot of those strange people around :)
Jul 21 21:19:40 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: speed could be kinda usefull, but maybe make the interval configurable?
Jul 21 21:19:43 <mrmoku> (probably including me)
Jul 21 21:20:05 <Zorkman> so people who really want can set the interval at 1sec or less to be usefull
Jul 21 21:20:49 <agg1n> mrmoku: i find nothing about how to integrate ecore mainloop into glib loop or otherwise... found something in c though, but failed porting it to vala -.-
Jul 21 21:21:02 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: yes, how to improve the update of the speed label is not a problem. it is more: is it the role of obm app? As it won't display everything the people want anyway
Jul 21 21:21:27 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: true... LETS HAVE A POLL :)
Jul 21 21:21:28 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: but could be a reason to push people to use obm when driving: speed + cells
Jul 21 21:21:55 <von_fritz> onen|openBmap have you tried your app in a car ? (new gui)
Jul 21 21:22:05 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: a poll? a poll of 1 or 10 seconds?
Jul 21 21:22:21 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: yes. but I am biased, because I know the inner work
Jul 21 21:22:22 <Zorkman> they old gui is super-dangerous when you're interested in cells and driving :)
Jul 21 21:22:59 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: Zorkman: stop complaining, and brind me some love: is it nothing better in the new gui ? ;-)
Jul 21 21:23:05 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: in stead of giving four hpv dops, maybe just one?
Jul 21 21:23:12 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: IT IS
Jul 21 21:23:26 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: much smaller chanse of hitting a pedestrian :)
Jul 21 21:23:33 <mrmoku> agg1n, IIRC mickey wanted to add support for two mainloops... you have to have two threads for that
Jul 21 21:23:34 <Zorkman> and the GSM statistics ARE WONDERFUL
Jul 21 21:23:38 <mrmoku> don't know in what state that is though
Jul 21 21:23:39 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: what was your point about using the new gui in a car?
Jul 21 21:23:44 <Zorkman> that is exaclty what i wanted onen|openBmap
Jul 21 21:24:17 <von_fritz> well i like it ;) but would prefer a little more speedy :)
Jul 21 21:24:24 <Zorkman> in the future maybe even add a local database and statistics that say how many REALLY new (not in the db) cells you've seen
Jul 21 21:24:48 <agg1n> mrmoku: will try to contact him when isn't at dinner or something :)
Jul 21 21:24:48 <Zorkman> could give you a big boost to tell my girlfriend that we are lost and have to drive for an extra 5km :)
Jul 21 21:24:55 <von_fritz> i have stopped with my car and speed says 50km/h :D
Jul 21 21:25:05 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: the inner part makes it easy to have a list of every log run. i mean, every time you hit start, or stop, a new separate stat structure is build. I coudl easily shows a list: how many, and which cells during this logging, during this not logging, etc.
Jul 21 21:25:52 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: jsut to be sure, about making it more speedy. are you talking about general lack of responsiveness, or only the speed to be updated more often?
Jul 21 21:26:12 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: i just mean a way to show users how many new cells they will add to the database when they hit upload (IF they have a recent database on their phone)
Jul 21 21:26:26 <von_fritz> well if possible update more often then :)
Jul 21 21:26:41 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: ha ha. I want only cells contributing on free will ;-)
Jul 21 21:27:03 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: would it use more battery when updating the speed more often?
Jul 21 21:28:06 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: indeed. I am about to start working on making the dbus location service. it will provide what would be needed to ask if the cell will be new or not :-)
Jul 21 21:28:26 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: that sounds great
Jul 21 21:28:36 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: I drove through 1000 cells, and after upload brought only 250 new to obm :'-(
Jul 21 21:29:36 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: move to another place :p
Jul 21 21:29:41 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: sure it will. but the question is does it matter. I mean, if I want to save battery and cpu "big time", let's rewrite the app in native. python is hungry
Jul 21 21:30:02 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: good point: get at it :p
Jul 21 21:30:09 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: so I try to add only things which really make sense. but probably a small update would not be that bad at all.
Jul 21 21:30:38 <Zorkman> speed indication is not something i will miss, i'm more addicted to stats :)
Jul 21 21:30:45 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: in fact I will on tuesday :-)
Jul 21 21:30:58 <Zorkman> super
Jul 21 21:31:34 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: I understood you trained in moving lately, maybe you could give me a han d;-)
Jul 21 21:32:35 <Zorkman> hehe, if you need help moving your furniture i'll gladly do that :)
Jul 21 21:32:36 <onen|openBmap> von_fritz: Zorkman: so basically Z. you don't care about speed, and V. you do care. pfff. very easy to satisfy users :-D
Jul 21 21:33:14 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: so make it configurable, let users choose what they see :D
Jul 21 21:33:22 <Zorkman> lol, no, don't give in to all our wishes please :)
Jul 21 21:33:24 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: no you won't :-P but of course many kms lay between us ;-) (that I already logged :P )
Jul 21 21:33:33 <Zorkman> just make a good program (which it already is)
Jul 21 21:34:20 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: this year i have no hollidays, but next year i'll have 25days, i'll take another way and logg all the other cells :p
Jul 21 21:34:33 <Zorkman> seriously, can't code for shit, but love to contribute in another way :)
Jul 21 21:34:35 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: I would like to work on dbus location service. because people will get tired of only looking at stats. I want them to see that it takes form.
Jul 21 21:35:03 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: let's plan the first annual obm convention ;-)
Jul 21 21:35:31 <Zorkman> why not :)
Jul 21 21:35:52 <Zorkman> whatever location it will be, it will be the best-covered cell location in the world :D
Jul 21 21:35:59 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: this means, I want to work less on the app. That means, no big modification such as a new gui. I think this one looks pretty good. especially in comparison with the old one
Jul 21 21:36:11 <onen|openBmap> zl
Jul 21 21:36:13 <onen|openBmap> zl
Jul 21 21:36:13 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: 
Jul 21 21:36:22 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: lol
Jul 21 21:36:28 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: what what what?
Jul 21 21:36:32 * onen|openBmap hits wrong keys in darkness
Jul 21 21:36:47 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: sorry sorry sorry (wrong keys)
Jul 21 21:36:55 <[Rui]> :D
Jul 21 21:37:04 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: now that we talk, are you using openbmap ;-)
Jul 21 21:37:22 <[Rui]> nopes
Jul 21 21:37:58 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: want someinfo or don't care (I like to promote my project, but don't want to become a plague here...)
Jul 21 21:38:51 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: oh by the way, glad to see you found a job :-)
Jul 21 21:39:00 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: especially in this time of crisis
Jul 21 21:39:21 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: thanks :)
Jul 21 21:39:57 <Zorkman> had to go to england for my job, was really hectic, but could logg a few cells :)
Jul 21 21:40:27 <Meomer> just for the interview?
Jul 21 21:40:38 <Meomer> or for a project?
Jul 21 21:40:45 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: you said you could not work on code of obm until you found a job, so do you have time now? ;-)
Jul 21 21:40:56 <mrmoku> all of you trying out the new SHR unstable image
Jul 21 21:40:58 <Zorkman> Meomer: for a project and giving training
Jul 21 21:41:02 <mrmoku> please report back how it works
Jul 21 21:41:07 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: what's openbmap ?
Jul 21 21:41:08 <mrmoku> (either here or even better on our ML)
Jul 21 21:41:24 <Meomer> does that apply to opkg upgraders too? :)
Jul 21 21:41:25 <mrmoku> because if we don't here anything bad it is going to be the new testing
Jul 21 21:41:28 <mrmoku> yep
Jul 21 21:41:29 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: if i learn how to code i will have the abilaty to do so :)
Jul 21 21:41:44 <mrmoku> especially your upgrade experience is of interest :P
Jul 21 21:41:56 <F4t> mrmoku, mokonnect is broken with new connman... fixing it now and tetsing :(
Jul 21 21:42:11 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: we do log GSM cells the phone sees, and build a map coverage out of it. This will be used to get your location without gps, directly from a local db on the phone, instantly
Jul 21 21:42:16 <mrmoku> F4t, sure the testing will contain a fixed mokonnect :)
Jul 21 21:42:31 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: we are talking about wifi too
Jul 21 21:42:31 <[Rui]> ah nice
Jul 21 21:42:54 <[Rui]> wifi in Portugal is not very pervasive, unfortunately, and GPRS tariffs are theft
Jul 21 21:43:10 <F4t> mrmoku, the fix also includes connecting to hidden networks :P
Jul 21 21:43:13 <Meomer> aren't data tarifs theft everywhere?
Jul 21 21:43:26 <mrmoku> F4t, uhh that means I can use it in our office :D
Jul 21 21:43:29 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: I tried upgrade of opkg only. then use this new opkg to run 'opkg upgrade'. got a lot of fork failed and in the end seg fault
Jul 21 21:43:42 <mrmoku> :(
Jul 21 21:43:44 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: use a one liner for() to upgrade package by package
Jul 21 21:44:19 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, from what are you upgrading?
Jul 21 21:44:19 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: openbmap-logger is in SHR and Debian feeds
Jul 21 21:44:22 <Meomer> they throw these big screened phones after you these days because you need an expensive data plan with them anyway if you intend to use them for what they're intended
Jul 21 21:44:34 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: probably sth like 2 weeks old
Jul 21 21:44:45 <mrmoku> hmm
Jul 21 21:44:50 <Sharwin_F> onen|openBmap, did you try stopping xserver and frameworkd   to have more mem available? :)
Jul 21 21:46:19 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: the logs the app creates are stored on the phone. you can upload it later whenever you want. so waiting to have wifi or computer usb adsl to do so
Jul 21 21:46:29 <Meomer> hmm, opkg just reinstalled dropbear for me, how kind of it, does the upgrade go through task-base again?
Jul 21 21:46:53 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: oh and e-wm threw tons of errors
Jul 21 21:46:59 <mrmoku> Meomer, ouch
Jul 21 21:47:02 <mrmoku> onen|openBmap, ouch
Jul 21 21:47:13 <onen|openBmap> mrmoku: I mean, during upgrade, and in the end failed
Jul 21 21:47:57 <Zorkman> g2g to girlfriend
Jul 21 21:48:02 <Zorkman> nice hearing you guys again
Jul 21 21:48:16 <Zorkman> if anybody needs user-nagging: let me test your apps :)
Jul 21 21:48:19 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: I thought you were a programmer. It seems not. what normal people like you are doing here?
Jul 21 21:48:43 <Zorkman> onen|openBmap: i only now java and a VERY little bit of C and actionscript (flash, the enemy of opensource...)
Jul 21 21:48:57 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: thanks for the input. let's see wha t you will tell once you will run the new gui :-)
Jul 21 21:48:59 <Zorkman> i'm in here because i love my Fr :)
Jul 21 21:49:19 <Zorkman> (i'm an engineer)
Jul 21 21:49:21 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: and your gf. so you better have to go
Jul 21 21:49:32 <Zorkman> :) lol, true, bye
Jul 21 21:49:42 <onen|openBmap> Zorkman: bye
Jul 21 21:49:43 <von_fritz> mrmoku for me until now it works OK, but i have flashed (own build) and not upgradet.
Jul 21 21:50:00 <Meomer> i'm coming from the java side of things too :)
Jul 21 21:52:19 <onen|openBmap> Sharwin_F: no I did not
Jul 21 21:53:51 <mrmoku> ok, bedtime now - gnight all and have fun :D
Jul 21 21:54:01 <Meomer> nn
Jul 21 21:54:03 <mrmoku> F4t, will build your new mokonnect tomorrow :)
Jul 21 21:54:18 <mrmoku> (hope you will have it finished until then ;)
Jul 21 21:54:18 <F4t> cool, ill finish testing it by then
Jul 21 21:54:21 <mrmoku> :)
Jul 21 21:54:22 <mrmoku> ok
Jul 21 21:54:24 <mrmoku> night
Jul 21 21:54:27 <F4t> night
Jul 21 21:55:01 <Meomer> i still haven't gotten the idea of connman anyway yet, installed it yesterday but didn't configure
Jul 21 21:56:00 <F4t> configure what?
Jul 21 21:56:16 <Meomer> the whole networking
Jul 21 21:56:17 <von_fritz> F4t can i try building?
Jul 21 21:56:20 <von_fritz> ;)
Jul 21 21:56:28 <Meomer> or is the idea that you don't have to configure much? :)
Jul 21 21:56:41 <von_fritz> will test with hidden network :)
Jul 21 21:56:51 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: ah nice...
Jul 21 21:57:31 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: but what's the reason to do it? (other than simply collecting cell info)?
Jul 21 21:58:24 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: not sure to understand your question. you mean the reason other than building a map coverage of it, and use it the other way around to locate you by the cell you are connected too?
Jul 21 21:58:50 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: not so sure I like that :)
Jul 21 21:58:50 * von_fritz builds :P
Jul 21 21:58:54 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: I forgot to say we log GSM cells/GPS position together. that's how we build a gsm cell coverage map
Jul 21 21:59:42 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: not sure you like what?
Jul 21 22:00:45 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: people knowing where I am :)
Jul 21 22:01:16 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: no no. I took part to this project to *protect* privacy. basically you could already get your position by sending your gsm data to google
Jul 21 22:01:20 <F4t> von_fritz, dunno, if u wanna try mokonnect i can make a package for u... if u wanna build shr-unstable's ipk... i dunno about that
Jul 21 22:01:48 <F4t> von_fritz, where are u building? :)
Jul 21 22:02:03 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: but I dont' want to. so if you send your logs to th eproejct, we build a map out of it, and then the map database gets on your phone, you can get your position locally
Jul 21 22:02:15 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: ah
Jul 21 22:02:34 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: see it as sth like openstreetmap
Jul 21 22:03:19 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: all the contributors send GPS traces with GSM cells they have seen where. we compute a map database from all of them, and provide it on the phone
Jul 21 22:03:38 <[Rui]> ok
Jul 21 22:04:23 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: I will probalby start working on a dbus service using that database to get your location in the next days
Jul 21 22:04:31 <von_fritz> F4t i build my own ;) the "prob" is your code ready for building/testing ?
Jul 21 22:06:02 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: so I hope I have convince you, and that you will jump on boat :-)
Jul 21 22:06:08 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: www.openbmap.org
Jul 21 22:06:51 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: I think you did, but first I'll have to try shr again
Jul 21 22:06:52 <F4t> von_fritz, yep, build it now... hidden networks should work
Jul 21 22:07:07 <F4t> i havea  minor fix to do, but ull help me testing :P
Jul 21 22:07:12 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: what distribution are you using?
Jul 21 22:07:49 <[Rui]> mirko lindner seems so occupied (well, now I know why -- Qi, the company) that I'm fearing the future for paroli 
Jul 21 22:07:52 <von_fritz> ok have buildet svnr93
Jul 21 22:07:57 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: Om2009t5
Jul 21 22:08:32 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: try opkg install openbmap-logger
Jul 21 22:09:24 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: maybe not, I think I'll install it tomorrow, or something
Jul 21 22:10:07 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: sure. but I think it is in om2009 feeds. so you would not need to switch to shr
Jul 21 22:10:16 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: and in last fso image too
Jul 21 22:11:13 <Meomer> hmm, i must have played about too much yesterday
Jul 21 22:11:27 <Meomer> no usb net anymore
Jul 21 22:12:04 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: I must be careful, as I use the Freerunner as my daily phone :)
Jul 21 22:12:36 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: openBmap never broke a phone ;-)
Jul 21 22:12:48 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: I understand. I don't, to be honnest.
Jul 21 22:12:55 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: I use it only for obm logging
Jul 21 22:13:02 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: and of course develpment
Jul 21 22:13:36 <onen|openBmap> [Rui]: hope you will try it. feel free to ping me if you have questions, comments, etc.
Jul 21 22:13:43 <Meomer> and after today's update, no more wifi :)  oops :)
Jul 21 22:14:04 <[Rui]> onen|openBmap: ok :)
Jul 21 22:15:07 <von_fritz> F4t well it says Scan complete but shows nothing ....i know its hidden ;)  
Jul 21 22:15:16 <Meomer> f4t: while you're at it there's a 't' missing in Authenticaion
Jul 21 22:15:54 <F4t> von_fritz, ok, its not complete yet, i fucked the regular network conneting...
Jul 21 22:16:00 <F4t> Meomer, fixing.. :)
Jul 21 22:18:24 <von_fritz> well but it shows me now the neighbor's one :D
Jul 21 22:18:24 <Meomer> would that problem you're fixing manifest itself in a timeout while trying to get dhcp configuration?
Jul 21 22:19:08 <F4t> von_fritz, the usage if u have a hidden network is provide its name, auth, and password, and mark the "Hidden Network" and click apply...
Jul 21 22:21:34 <von_fritz> well scanning works only if you mark hidden network if i not mark hidden it blocks :(
Jul 21 22:22:01 <Meomer> oh dear, rotating the screen wasn't a good idea
Jul 21 22:24:03 <onen|openBmap> alphaone: hi
Jul 21 22:24:29 <onen|openBmap> alphaone: this time raw data download works right (last time I tried)
Jul 21 22:25:27 <F4t> von_fritz, thats very very odd...
Jul 21 22:25:36 <F4t> von_fritz, completely blocks? or u can press back?
Jul 21 22:26:39 <von_fritz> sometimes its blocking.... a bit slow
Jul 21 22:28:34 * von_fritz trys to connect now
Jul 21 22:28:45 <F4t> von_fritz, u mean the time between clicking scan and the time u see the scanning window?
Jul 21 22:29:57 <von_fritz> no its blocking "sometimes" in Scanning... but pushing back button works
Jul 21 22:30:40 <von_fritz> well timout reached connection failed, but its a progress :D
Jul 21 22:31:05 <F4t> define "blocking" you are not seeing any networks? what exactly is blocking in that screen?
Jul 21 22:31:21 <F4t> von_fritz, did wifi icon appear at the top?
Jul 21 22:32:03 <F4t> fixed some more stuff... update urs to svnr75
Jul 21 22:32:19 <F4t> errr i ment svnr97
Jul 21 22:33:10 <von_fritz> F4t that's blocking http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/1885437d3718cffa8b0d9d476220047a.png
Jul 21 22:33:16 <von_fritz> :)
Jul 21 22:36:54 <F4t> von_fritz, its just an empty network list... nothing is blocking there
Jul 21 22:37:21 <F4t> anyway, update ur mokonnect to svnr97, and keep testing...
Jul 21 22:37:28 <von_fritz> :)
Jul 21 22:37:41 <F4t> von_fritz, you still did not answer about the wifi icon at the top when u get timout reached..
Jul 21 22:37:57 <von_fritz> no wifi icon
Jul 21 22:39:20 <F4t> and you are sure you put the right details, and you are close enough to the ap?
Jul 21 22:39:37 <Meomer> hmm, mofi just found 4 aps and all are listed as (open)
Jul 21 22:39:43 <Meomer> good to know, i say
Jul 21 22:40:08 <F4t> Meomer, and mokonnect didnt?
Jul 21 22:40:27 <Meomer> sad enough neither mofi nor mokonnect are able to connect to mine, also the usb network doesn't seem to be working anymore for me :)
Jul 21 22:40:42 <Meomer> whatever i did yesterday wasn't such a great thing to do :)
Jul 21 22:40:45 <F4t> what version are you testing?
Jul 21 22:40:54 <F4t> (of mokonnect)
Jul 21 22:41:13 <Meomer> the one that was on opkg as of this evening, i suspect
Jul 21 22:41:35 <onen|openBmap> good night everyone
Jul 21 22:41:53 <F4t> Meomer, bad...
Jul 21 22:42:00 <Meomer> and i'm not testing, i'm trying to get any connection to the phone back :)
Jul 21 22:42:18 <F4t> Meomer, latest opkg upgrade, upgraded the connman to the newest one, and broke everything...
Jul 21 22:42:45 <F4t> latest mokonnec from svn has that fixed, the guys at connman rearranged the dbus api
Jul 21 22:45:27 <Meomer> i was just surprised by the number of open networks
Jul 21 22:47:29 <Meomer> something or other managed to connect, so not all hope is lost :)
Jul 21 22:47:38 <mwester> shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/valac -C --basedir ../../.. --vapidir ./ --vapidir ../../../src/lib --pkg glib-2.0 --pkg gee-1.0 --pkg dbus-glib-1 --pkg fsoframework-2.0 --pkg fso-glib-1.0 --pkg fsousage-2.0 plugin.vala
Jul 21 22:47:38 <mwester> error: gee-1.0 not found in specified Vala API directories
Jul 21 22:47:44 <mwester> Here we go again.
Jul 21 22:47:46 <mwester> Sigh.
Jul 21 22:48:08 <F4t> build funtime?
Jul 21 22:48:24 <mwester> It's stopped being fun by now.
Jul 21 22:49:05 <playya_> does the package depend on libgee?
Jul 21 22:49:07 <mwester> It's now _SERIOUSLY_ annoying.  Makes it REALLY tough to build a custom image, or even to know if I screwed something up or what I started with was totally borked to begin with.
Jul 21 22:49:55 <Meomer> is that svnr97 a git branch tag or an svn tag? :)
Jul 21 22:49:56 <mwester> But this is a virgin, just updated, unmodified shr-unstable.
Jul 21 22:50:02 <mwester> It should build cleanly, at least.
Jul 21 22:50:16 <mwester> Meomer,  no idea.  I just built it.
Jul 21 22:50:39 <playya_> mwester, which package?
Jul 21 22:50:43 <Meomer> oh, sorry, that was directed at f4t :)
Jul 21 22:51:05 <mwester> fsousaged
Jul 21 22:51:17 <F4t> Meomer, svn tag
Jul 21 22:52:55 <Meomer> oh, is it still the latest, bitbake just fetched that it seems
Jul 21 22:53:37 <von_fritz> F4t timeout....., well wil try to reboot and try without usb connection
Jul 21 22:55:15 <playya_> mwester, ca you check if shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/share/vala/vapi/gee-1.0.vapi exists?
Jul 21 22:56:14 <methril_home> hi!!
Jul 21 22:56:27 <methril_home> someone up?
Jul 21 22:56:37 <F4t> von_fritz, run it from terminal, i want to see if theres an exception
Jul 21 22:56:46 <F4t> /usr/bin/mokonnect
Jul 21 22:58:34 <mwester> ls: cannot access shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/share/vala/vapi/gee*: No such file or directory
Jul 21 23:01:36 <methril_home> Ainulindale, mrmoku|away: are you up? 
Jul 21 23:04:42 <von_fritz> F4t no exception it says only /profile/default/wifi_xxxxxxxx_xxxxxx_managed_wpa2 and nothing more
Jul 21 23:07:39 <Meomer> is it normal that i have to press power for a long time to boot with u-boot?
Jul 21 23:09:42 <playya_> mwester, can you search for gee-1.0.vapi in the staging dir?
Jul 21 23:11:22 <DocScrutinizer> Meomer: yes. ~8sec (with uBoot from NAND, and standard uBoot-env values)
Jul 21 23:13:58 <von_fritz> sorry F4t but look at the screenshot using wifiman scanning is much faster and it shows my hidden network ;) 
Jul 21 23:14:04 <von_fritz> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6442b1f7fb11a3b6320b3721d16eb036.png
Jul 21 23:14:31 <von_fritz> you can copy from wifiman .... its same python :P
Jul 21 23:14:41 <Meomer> hmm, f4t svnr97 doesn't seem to find any networks now, 78 did find the 4 i was talking about before
Jul 21 23:22:14 <F4t> von_fritz, if it says that, then it should connect, if the details are correct....
Jul 21 23:22:32 <F4t> von_fritz, i copied from wifiman already :D
Jul 21 23:22:46 <Meomer> f4t: and when i checked hidden network the first time it did find one of the networks, but that's probably just a coincidence, because it's not reproducable
Jul 21 23:23:28 <Meomer> also, should i test against the connman that was on the opkg repo this evening or should i build that myself too?
Jul 21 23:24:04 <F4t> Meomer, test using the connman in opkg repo plz
Jul 21 23:24:15 <F4t> something is really broken here.... :-/
Jul 21 23:27:29 <Meomer> the console just brings warnings about pending_return without pending_setup is deprecated
Jul 21 23:28:20 <farhaven> hmm, i have a problem here
Jul 21 23:28:29 <farhaven> gsm doesn't work right
Jul 21 23:28:53 <farhaven> i call my phone, and it looks like everything works well, but if i pick it up, the speaker stays silent and the mic doesn't transmit anything
Jul 21 23:29:02 <farhaven> i.e. no sound is transferred
Jul 21 23:29:24 <farhaven> and if i then hang up on the phone i called my moko with, nothing happens on the moko, it looks just like the call is still active
Jul 21 23:29:30 <farhaven> i recently upgraded to shr unstable
Jul 21 23:29:33 <farhaven> known issue?
Jul 21 23:29:51 <mwester> playya_,  I can.  But for what purpose?
Jul 21 23:30:56 <von_fritz> F4t no problem i can connect manualy with wpa_supplicant but with gui its nicer :)
Jul 21 23:31:04 <farhaven> i recall the upgrade replaced fso-abyss with gsm something muxd, could that be the cause?
Jul 21 23:31:14 <F4t> von_fritz, :-/
Jul 21 23:33:03 <farhaven> noone?
Jul 21 23:33:05 <farhaven> damn
Jul 21 23:34:48 <von_fritz> farhaven the other way fso-abyss is newer and default in latest shr-unstable
Jul 21 23:35:02 <farhaven> hmm
Jul 21 23:35:10 <farhaven> weird
Jul 21 23:36:05 <playya_> mwester, if it is stage to the wrong place or it isn't even staged
Jul 21 23:36:11 <von_fritz> F4t still open for testing when you need :)
Jul 21 23:36:45 <mwester> Yes, but I guess I'm wondering what we will do with this information.  Are we debugging and fixing SHR?   Or do we suspect something wrong with the build machine?
Jul 21 23:39:30 <playya_> fixing the build
Jul 21 23:43:26 <von_fritz> farhaven you can try to install fso-abyss manualy with opkg install fso-abyss, but i dont know if its working :(
Jul 21 23:43:36 <farhaven> just tried it, doesn't work
Jul 21 23:43:54 <farhaven> it looks like volume is down to 0 for both speaker and microphone while having a call
Jul 21 23:43:59 <farhaven> the ringtone works though
Jul 21 23:44:06 <von_fritz> well with brute-force :)
Jul 21 23:44:31 <playya_> mwester, vala isn't inherit in libgee 0.1.6
Jul 21 23:44:40 <mwester> "fixing the build"...   Ok, well, yes, that would be a good side-effect.  I'm rather more interested in sorting out what's broken in SHR again.  There are some fundamental process issues lately that have SHR becoming a rather chaotic development environment, and it may be pointless to "fix the build".
Jul 21 23:45:05 <F4t> von_fritz, i need u to test again the hidden network thing.... it works at my place...
Jul 21 23:45:20 <F4t> what svn revision are you testing?
Jul 21 23:45:28 <F4t> and what version of connmand?
Jul 21 23:45:50 <mwester> Shr hasn't built for sundry reasons for about 10 days now... I think that unless the SHR team "gets it together", fixing yet another dependency-type issue in the build is "pushing a rope", to use an old expression. :(
Jul 21 23:45:53 <von_fritz> well i have svnr97
Jul 21 23:46:35 <F4t> ok, and connman? the one from unstable repo?
Jul 21 23:46:55 <von_fritz> connman - 0.22+gitr1577+7c73daec2f89ccd829881c608e833e5dc859bbcb-r1
Jul 21 23:47:05 <F4t> ye, from unstable repo
Jul 21 23:47:17 <Meomer> when trying to connect to a non-hidden network with the hidden box checked i get a not-supported exception which makes sense to me :)
Jul 21 23:47:58 <F4t> run from terminal, /usr/bin/mokonnect , configure ur hidden network, mark the hidden network check box, and click apply, leave the log screen on
Jul 21 23:48:03 <farhaven> hmm, i just noticed, ophonekitd doesn't come up by itself
Jul 21 23:48:10 <farhaven> i have to manually launch it
Jul 21 23:48:11 <tasn2> hey there :)
Jul 21 23:48:18 <farhaven> though even with it running, calling doesn't work
Jul 21 23:48:19 <F4t> Meomer, the not suported exception means its borked....
Jul 21 23:48:25 <farhaven> or getting called, for that matter
Jul 21 23:48:31 <F4t> Meomer, try clicking scan, it should throw some exception too
Jul 21 23:48:45 <tasn2> farhaven: what are you talking about?
Jul 21 23:49:04 <farhaven> after a recent upgrade, making phone-calls doesn't work anymore
Jul 21 23:49:13 <farhaven> no sound is transmitted either way
Jul 21 23:49:19 <F4t> farhaven, opkg install ophonekitd -force-reinstall
Jul 21 23:49:25 <farhaven> will try
Jul 21 23:50:01 <tasn2> hm.. farhaven 
Jul 21 23:50:10 <tasn2> what's phonegui's version?
Jul 21 23:50:21 <tasn2> and please pastebin 
Jul 21 23:50:34 <tasn2> cat /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
Jul 21 23:50:39 <tasn2> just to make sure.
Jul 21 23:50:49 <farhaven> phonegui is 0.0.2+gitr691+356fcaffed927a7ff3d56b004dc09bc52df38995-r8
Jul 21 23:51:01 <tasn2> meant phonegui-efl
Jul 21 23:51:04 <tasn2> sorry for the mistake :)
Jul 21 23:51:24 <farhaven> http://farhaven.pastebin.com/d2ce815bf
Jul 21 23:51:42 <farhaven> phonegui-efl0 is 0.0.2+gitr691+356fcaffed927a7ff3d56b004dc09bc52df38995-r32
Jul 21 23:51:48 <farhaven> the very same version
Jul 21 23:53:08 <F4t> farhaven, had the same prob with ophonekitd no longer starting after update, a reinstall solved it..
Jul 21 23:53:30 <tasn2> farhaven: I think I just confirmed it's not my fault :)
Jul 21 23:53:36 <farhaven> hehe
Jul 21 23:53:46 <farhaven> F4t: i'll see whether that did the trick
Jul 21 23:53:48 <farhaven> though i doubt it
Jul 21 23:53:59 <tasn2> as you are using a pre-tasn-sound-work version
Jul 21 23:54:00 <tasn2> :)
Jul 21 23:54:04 <farhaven> hehe
Jul 21 23:54:19 <farhaven> i just noticed the setScenario(gsmhandset)
Jul 21 23:54:25 <tasn2> though btw
Jul 21 23:54:26 <farhaven> could the scenario be broken?
Jul 21 23:54:31 <tasn2> might.
Jul 21 23:54:38 <farhaven> where would i find that?
Jul 21 23:56:16 <F4t> Meomer, von_fritz, anything new?
Jul 21 23:56:20 <tasn2> a good scenario?
Jul 21 23:56:32 <Meomer> nothing i changed did anything
Jul 21 23:56:35 <tasn2> hm.. reinstall the alsa-scenario-shr
Jul 21 23:56:36 <farhaven> the scenario in general
Jul 21 23:56:38 <tasn2> or something like that
Jul 21 23:56:40 <tasn2> I think
Jul 21 23:56:44 <farhaven> anyway, http://farhaven.pastebin.com/d29e2df78 <-- this is ophonekitd.log
Jul 21 23:56:45 <tasn2> shr-scenarii
Jul 21 23:56:47 <tasn2> or something ;)
Jul 21 23:56:48 <farhaven> looks... wrong
Jul 21 23:56:49 <farhaven> :D
Jul 21 23:57:04 <tasn2> upgrade ophonekitd
Jul 21 23:57:10 <F4t> Meomer, could u re-run mokonnect from terminal (/usr/bin/mokonnect) and click scan in wifi, and tell me what the terminal says?
Jul 21 23:57:10 <tasn2> you are using an old and buggy version
Jul 21 23:57:13 <tasn2> ...
Jul 21 23:57:21 <farhaven> uhm
Jul 21 23:57:23 <farhaven> well...
Jul 21 23:57:24 <tasn2> this was already fixed
Jul 21 23:57:30 <tasn2> :)
Jul 21 23:57:30 <farhaven> i just reinstalled ophonekitd
Jul 21 23:57:34 <farhaven> the feeds are current
Jul 21 23:57:37 <farhaven> so uhm...
Jul 21 23:57:50 <tasn2> this is odd, because as I said, we fixed this (for sure)
Jul 21 23:57:51 <farhaven> i have no idea where i would get a version newer than that in the unstable feeds from
Jul 21 23:58:01 <F4t> farhaven, reboot phone after reinstall?
Jul 21 23:58:09 <farhaven> did it
Jul 21 23:58:10 <tasn2> F4t: ++ :)
Jul 21 23:58:21 <tasn2> farhaven: what's your ophonekitd's version?
Jul 21 23:58:24 <F4t> farhaven, still doesnt come up by itself?
Jul 21 23:58:30 <farhaven> nope
Jul 21 23:58:31 <tasn2> (probably same as phonegui though stil.l..
Jul 21 23:58:35 <farhaven> tasn2: second...
Jul 21 23:59:03 <farhaven> 0.0.2+gitr717+ca89d91d0842af880ce7db884a3c82aaab22137e
Jul 21 23:59:09 <farhaven> not quite the same
Jul 22 00:00:47 <farhaven> the odd thing is, if i manually start ophonekitd, it seems to run just fine
Jul 22 00:00:55 <von_fritz> F4t scanning seems faster now ;) but still timeout with connection
Jul 22 00:01:10 <F4t> von_fritz, leave the log window open
Jul 22 00:01:15 <F4t> and look at terminal log
Jul 22 00:01:18 <F4t> anything interesting?
Jul 22 00:02:08 <Meomer> f4t: at startup there's a deprecation warning because of dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup  and while scanning a lot of these warning again
Jul 22 00:02:10 <von_fritz>   /profile/default/wifi_xxx and nothing
Jul 22 00:02:36 <Meomer> + something that loogs like a debug print from a dbus.Dictionary call
Jul 22 00:02:38 <farhaven> hey, awesome, reinstalling alsa-scenarii-shr did the trick
Jul 22 00:02:42 <tasn2> farhaven: odd, no idea.
Jul 22 00:02:47 <tasn2> (ophonekitd)
Jul 22 00:02:50 <tasn2> farhaven: :)
Jul 22 00:02:52 <farhaven> but the ophonekit-not-starting-up thing remains
Jul 22 00:02:53 <F4t> Meomer, im looking for an exception...
Jul 22 00:02:57 <tasn2> farhaven: 
Jul 22 00:02:59 <farhaven> but that's minor
Jul 22 00:03:01 <F4t> von_fritz, wait...
Jul 22 00:03:03 <tasn2> I can suggest a workaronud
Jul 22 00:03:08 <tasn2> add sleep 3
Jul 22 00:03:11 <tasn2> to the beginning of 
Jul 22 00:03:21 <tasn2>  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ophonekitd
Jul 22 00:03:24 <tasn2> hackish but works
Jul 22 00:03:29 <farhaven> sounds good enough
Jul 22 00:03:37 <farhaven> better than opening a terminal every time i restart :)
Jul 22 00:03:40 <tasn2> though this is very odd (the fact that your ophonektid doesn't work well)
Jul 22 00:04:32 <farhaven> once it starts up, it's great :)
Jul 22 00:05:55 <F4t> von_fritz, while the log is open, and the terminal shows that line.... goto terminal and configure ur connection manually....
Jul 22 00:06:07 <F4t> von_fritz, ifconfig eth0 <ip> netmask <netmask>
Jul 22 00:06:15 <F4t> and ping some ip in the subnet...
Jul 22 00:07:09 <F4t> von_fritz, are you sure btw, that when you see that /profile/default/wifi_ msg, theres no wifi icon at the top?
Jul 22 00:07:30 <tasn2> farhaven: your phonegui version is terribly old
Jul 22 00:07:44 <farhaven> yeah, i just noticed there are some updates on that
Jul 22 00:07:52 <farhaven> i'm running shr-update-stepbystep.sh right now
Jul 22 00:07:58 <farhaven> maybe that solves the remaining problems
Jul 22 00:08:04 <farhaven> thanks a lot for your effort and help :)
Jul 22 00:09:49 <tasn2> oh wait
Jul 22 00:09:52 <tasn2> ophonekitd is new
Jul 22 00:09:55 <tasn2> phonegui is old ;)
Jul 22 00:10:01 <tasn2> (yours)
Jul 22 00:10:08 <farhaven> hehe
Jul 22 00:10:16 <farhaven> great, because that's being upgraded right now
Jul 22 00:10:34 <tasn2> what is?
Jul 22 00:10:52 <tasn2> anyhow it's terribly odd that ophonekitd still breaks...
Jul 22 00:11:06 <tasn2> though I wonder how come it even installed without asking for newer phonegui-efl deps...
Jul 22 00:11:17 <tasn2> anyhow I'm off to bed
Jul 22 00:11:18 <tasn2> ciao.
Jul 22 00:11:28 <farhaven> night
Jul 22 00:11:54 <Meomer> f4t: i tried stopping connmand and run it with -nd, but it doesn't give me any hints either
Jul 22 00:12:25 <von_fritz> F4t no icon ...nothing, sorry have to go now, need some sleep ;)
Jul 22 00:12:27 <Meomer> f4t: the only thing that changed is that the scanning screen now stays at "scanning" instead of saying done quite soon
Jul 22 00:12:41 <Meomer> need to catch some sleep too
Jul 22 00:13:09 <von_fritz> bye
Jul 22 00:15:04 <Meomer> oh, but that seems to have brought one change, suddenly my usbnet seems to be working again when plugging in
Jul 22 00:15:19 <Meomer> well, TTy tomorrow,  nn
Jul 22 00:16:34 <F4t> gn
Jul 22 00:20:21 <F4t> btw, does anyone know what am i missing if the power off button in the power-button menu is grayed out?
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