**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 23 02:59:57 2009 Jul 23 03:25:18 xxx Jul 23 05:01:51 [5~/sb end Jul 23 05:49:28 I have this error when trying to build fsousaged - error: gee-1.0 not found in specified Vala API directories - how to fix? Jul 23 05:53:45 BillK, rebuild libgee Jul 23 05:53:52 (and make update first) Jul 23 05:54:53 did - it rebuilt 1.6 - this looks like it wants 1.0 Jul 23 05:55:26 will try again as it is an hour since I make-updated Jul 23 06:04:38 BillK, well, then no Jul 23 06:04:41 hmm Jul 23 06:05:13 the fix for libgee was last morning Jul 23 07:02:40 good morning Jul 23 07:27:02 mrmoku: just got home an checked - seems to have worked this time, tkx Jul 23 07:27:51 good morniing Jul 23 08:43:48 morning...wanted to buils shr-unstable again....error at building blibc_2.6.1 (http://pastebin.com/m3c561597) Jul 23 08:43:56 cna anybody help please... Jul 23 08:44:25 blibc...>>>>> glibc !!! Jul 23 08:57:40 morning...wanted to buils shr-unstable again....error at building blibc_2.6.1 (http://pastebin.com/m3c561597) Jul 23 08:57:53 configure: error: C preprocessor "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -E" fails sanity check Jul 23 09:04:34 tasn-hates-isp, what about last upgrade in shr-unstable? Jul 23 09:05:17 there is a way to upgrade without flashing freerunner? Jul 23 09:30:04 furester, do you mean a way other than "opkg update; opkg upgrade"? Jul 23 09:30:18 dos1|zzZZzz, ping Jul 23 09:30:20 wake up ;) Jul 23 09:31:05 Sharwin_F, that way doesn't repair shr after the last upgrade Jul 23 09:31:27 there is nothing upgradable atm Jul 23 09:31:50 yaaawwwwn Jul 23 09:32:42 dos1, morning ;) Jul 23 09:32:54 dos1, how did the upgrade problems end last night? Jul 23 09:34:14 mrmoku: dunno... nothing new i think Jul 23 09:34:20 tasn-hates-isp had the same problems Jul 23 09:36:12 hello... after latest update, when I resume after a suspend, I no longer get audio for incoming messages or rings, but I can hear and talk in an active call Jul 23 09:36:53 but at least my fr vibrates Jul 23 09:39:08 do you know if I can manually fix something gone wrong? Jul 23 09:39:24 is it a known bug? Jul 23 09:39:26 a21_work, do you have the speech-dispatcher installed? Jul 23 09:39:49 opkg list_installed | grep speech Jul 23 09:39:51 ooohh fuck mrmoku u r right!!! I've installed navit Jul 23 09:39:54 :) Jul 23 09:40:15 dos1, you fixed that right? and I probably have to rebuild navit? Jul 23 09:40:18 :P sorry for the noise Jul 23 09:40:26 np Jul 23 09:40:40 mrmoku: speech-dispatcher? yep, fixed Jul 23 09:40:45 and navit config also :P Jul 23 09:59:55 mrmoku, there is no frameworkd in /etc/init.d is this correct? Jul 23 10:06:33 furester: it's launched with X Jul 23 10:07:09 a21_work, what is launched with X? Jul 23 10:07:16 what is the name of the program Jul 23 10:07:20 or the script? Jul 23 10:07:41 in latest upgrade of unstable semms that there is no framework at all Jul 23 10:08:02 python /usr/bin/frameworkd Jul 23 10:08:51 21/Jul? Jul 23 10:09:22 23/Jul morning Jul 23 10:09:32 GMT+1 Jul 23 10:09:42 are you trying to upgrade from ...? Jul 23 10:10:43 from repo of shr unstable Jul 23 10:11:04 before 21/Jul shr was very different and upgrading is a lot messy Jul 23 10:11:46 you should reflash if you have an old unstable before 21J Jul 23 10:15:13 hello. I just got my FR a few days ago and flashed yesterdays shr on it (/etc/shr-version says Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:15:30 +0200) Jul 23 10:16:10 now I'm following the "Developing SHR" wiki site and i'm at bitbake -c build shr-dialer Jul 23 10:16:12 hmm, should i start with the usb unplugged to get it to connect? if i boot with it plugged in it doesn't connect Jul 23 10:16:15 just curious... why is it building a qemu? Jul 23 10:16:38 if i unplug it, let it go into suspend, resume and then plug in the usb it works :) Jul 23 10:30:19 Hi. Another question regarding the intended behaviour of e17: Here, the close button I get in e17 (Illume?), closes the application directly unless I’m already at the desktop, then I get a system menu. This system menu, besides options to sleep etc., includes a button to close the application (but greyed out, since I’m at the desktop). Jul 23 10:30:43 I’m wondering if the menu was meant to appear always instead. How does it behave on other distros? Jul 23 10:31:02 you can also get it with the power button i think Jul 23 10:31:36 Hmm, not by default here, but I’ll try to set that. Jul 23 10:33:17 hmm. e17 does not detect the powerbutton here (although it does detect the aux button) Jul 23 10:33:52 hm, i just flashed the latest shr and it just does it Jul 23 10:34:40 Meomer: what is the key named in e17 settings for keyboard shorcuts? Jul 23 10:35:07 if e doesnt detect it - it's either stolen by another x app or is not a key in x thus cant be bound Jul 23 10:35:37 (eg the kernel doesnt expose it or x cant use it due to its own code simply not opening the device) Jul 23 10:36:08 the key binding settings dialog only list "Execute" and "Keycode-177" Jul 23 10:36:32 thats all thats bound by default Jul 23 10:36:43 (power button actually is bound by default) Jul 23 10:36:54 nomeata: did you just short touch it? Jul 23 10:37:09 oh wait, pressing it longer opens the menu here too Jul 23 10:38:03 hmm, when scanning i find 4 open access points here Jul 23 10:38:17 don't you have to go out of your way these days to open up an AP? Jul 23 10:38:38 i thought most come with some security settings as default Jul 23 10:39:15 Meomer: so, does it react on short or 4s presses, or both? Jul 23 10:39:48 both, i think a bit longer and it'd shut down Jul 23 10:40:59 hmm, i tried the lite image yesterday, but is there already a wifi gui on the lite image? Jul 23 10:46:24 default on SHR: push PWR->menu; hold 4sec->shutdown -h now; 8sec->hard powerdown Jul 23 10:47:03 DocScrutinizer: Which button is handled by what (frameworkd, e17, kernel)? Jul 23 10:47:07 (hard powerdown) though with a little help from kernel, so won't work on PANIC Jul 23 10:47:13 raster: Good to have you here :-). e17 by default has a screensaver that requires a password. Is there a way to completely disable that, i.e. make the Lock button in the system menu call the simple lock? Jul 23 10:48:16 a21_work, i have to reflash even if i upgrade my shr every two days? Jul 23 10:48:33 disable it Jul 23 10:48:41 there is a config dialog for just about everything Jul 23 10:48:57 simplelock is part of illume - so u'll need illume Jul 23 10:49:03 raster: hmm, ok, then I just haven’t found it yet :-). Would it make sense to make that defualt of Illume? Jul 23 10:49:09 there is a whole profile set up for you for that Jul 23 10:49:11 I managed to start the simple lock via Aux Jul 23 10:49:27 it is the default for illume Jul 23 10:49:28 Passwd lock won't work on FR, PAM missing Jul 23 10:49:40 use the illume profile - it's the 2nd thing it asks you after language on first tsart Jul 23 10:49:42 start Jul 23 10:49:53 start Jul 23 10:50:05 raster: I did. But still, the lock button in the system menu is the password-based screensaver Jul 23 10:51:01 (system menu = what I get from the X button when on the desktop) Jul 23 10:51:54 yes - it's using the normal desklock Jul 23 10:52:08 config determines what action it uses Jul 23 10:52:31 it's not going to be changing any time soon Jul 23 10:54:07 * nomeata is confused. The default config for Illume is the desklock, or the simple lock, for the Lock button in the system menu? Jul 23 10:54:43 default is desklock Jul 23 10:54:57 ok, thx Jul 23 10:56:17 hello...tried to buils shr-unstable.....ERROR : checking for XML_ParserCreate_MM in -lexpat... no Jul 23 10:56:18 configure: error: Explicitly requested expat but expat not found Jul 23 10:56:34 installes expat on my ubunt... Jul 23 10:58:10 just trying with " . ./setup-env;bitbake -c rebuild expat"....waiting... Jul 23 11:01:29 raster: can you help a bit more? I’m at the Screen Lock setting right now, but it seems I can only configure when to activate it, but not he type of the lock. The extended dialog is too large for my screen, so I’m not sure what I could set there. Jul 23 11:01:45 thats is desklock Jul 23 11:01:53 simplelock is a different lock that has no config Jul 23 11:02:02 its an action/feature added by illume Jul 23 11:02:23 ok. Can I completely disable the desklock and use the simple lock only? Jul 23 11:02:43 you can - you'll need to hand-fiddle with configs Jul 23 11:02:55 to change the action tied to the lock button insyscon Jul 23 11:04:12 raster: can you give me pointers to more details on how to do that? Jul 23 11:04:31 (OTOH, the desklock might be ok if the keyboard would be visible. Is it on other distros?) Jul 23 11:04:40 eet - iot can decode/encode config files Jul 23 11:04:41 eet Jul 23 11:04:49 its not visible Jul 23 11:04:54 it is no different on any distro Jul 23 11:06:13 * nomeata tries eet, thanks. Jul 23 11:06:42 on SHR, is it possible to keep the "Show my number" setting across reboots? Jul 23 11:09:06 raster: with eet, I find one key called "config" in ~/.e/e/config/illume/e.cfg, which I can extract. How can I parse the value of the key? Jul 23 11:09:30 decode it Jul 23 11:09:32 not extract Jul 23 11:10:01 ah, ok. thx, could have found that out myself :-) Jul 23 11:10:19 furester, (init.d/frameworkd) should be there Jul 23 11:10:33 I remember onen had the problem that frameworkd was missing completely Jul 23 11:13:42 nomeata: thats what i thought :) Jul 23 11:23:40 mrmoku, no init.d/frameworkd Jul 23 11:23:49 which pkg contains that file? Jul 23 11:39:38 furester, frameworkd Jul 23 11:39:51 furester, try to -force-reinstall it Jul 23 11:45:28 .../shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/dbus/dbus-glib_0.78.bb do_compile failed...........(http://pastebin.com/m65d04574) Jul 23 11:45:46 can anyone help? Jul 23 11:47:16 schasch, looks seriously broken :( Jul 23 11:47:22 schasch: what's your host systems gcc version? Jul 23 11:54:15 mrmoku, it works! Jul 23 11:57:33 blindcoder: what's your host systems gcc version ???? I just updated to (. ./setup-env;bitbake -f -c fetch gcc-cross-initial && bitbake gcc-cross-initial) 4.1.2 Jul 23 11:57:57 becose I got other errors... Jul 23 12:01:59 blindcoder: gcc (GCC) 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu4) Jul 23 12:03:23 schasch: then it's not the error I thought it might be. sorry Jul 23 12:06:57 blindcoder:tankx...shall I build it this night NEW? Jul 23 12:07:08 Will it be successfull? Jul 23 12:07:49 schasch: I'm currently building todays unstable from scratch and it's working fine. so I'd say yes Jul 23 12:07:57 hello, can you try to open the satellites list on latest shr unstable? Jul 23 12:08:05 I'm currently at libICE step 516 of 1046 Jul 23 12:08:10 i'm not able to get any satellite Jul 23 12:08:23 (gps) Jul 23 12:09:08 a21_work: settings -> gps -> satellite details is empty Jul 23 12:09:14 I do not know if it's a bug or if I made something wrong Jul 23 12:09:31 I do not get a fix Jul 23 12:09:37 only timestamp Jul 23 12:10:07 blindcoder: tnx Jul 23 12:10:17 so it's a common bug Jul 23 12:10:20 :P Jul 23 12:11:25 I tried also to delete the agps data Jul 23 12:15:57 mrmoku, now frameworkd works Jul 23 12:16:02 but settings are miss Jul 23 12:16:17 which pkg contains settings? Jul 23 12:17:39 furester: opkg list|grep -i setting Jul 23 12:17:56 a lot of packages Jul 23 12:18:12 shr-config shr-settings Jul 23 12:20:39 hey, ma tu sei quello della pizzeria? Jul 23 12:31:29 f4t: i caved yesterday and just flashed the released unstable image, it's working now with connmand 0.29 and mokonnect r87 Jul 23 12:31:41 i just don't dare updating now :p Jul 23 12:49:08 furester, frameworkd-config-shr Jul 23 12:49:23 furester, or do you mean the shr-settings app? Jul 23 12:50:22 mrmoku: he is out testing gps now ;) Jul 23 12:50:46 anyway his problem is now solved, afaik Jul 23 12:50:50 shr-settings .. now my fr is working 100% an other time Jul 23 12:50:53 thanks Jul 23 12:51:38 an other time= working again :P Jul 23 12:52:04 ghghgh Jul 23 12:52:34 furester: news on the gps side? Jul 23 12:55:40 Meomer, you can safely update to r100 of mokonnect.... its just python scripts... Jul 23 12:55:56 Meomer, if r100 causes problem u can always reinstall the older mokonnect version.. Jul 23 13:36:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rb00aaa4d3cc9 10/tools/makedoc.py: fix makedoc to cope with specs without interfaces or descriptions Jul 23 13:36:50 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r5805c2efe5c7 10/html/ (19 files): specs: regenerate Jul 23 13:42:13 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r8f196195d2e0 10/html/index.html: index.html: link to PIM specs Jul 23 13:46:10 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r9a610f6f4e2e 10/html/index.html: index.html: fix typo Jul 23 13:46:55 [3~ Jul 23 13:50:58 see you at debconf Jul 23 13:51:02 bye Jul 23 14:21:16 furester: I upgraded though had to force reinstall some packages ;\ Jul 23 14:21:58 thanks tasn-hates-isp Jul 23 14:22:30 with mrmoku and alfa21 few hours ago get the fr working again Jul 23 14:22:43 frameworkd and related packages need to be reinstalled Jul 23 14:33:43 i keep wondering why is it always frameworkd and ophonekitd that needs resintalling after an update? Jul 23 14:45:48 hi, does someone where on openmoko-shr the contacts/phone-numbers are stored ? Jul 23 14:48:03 pwgen: on sim Jul 23 14:51:34 : this means reflashing will not remove stored contacts. only the phonelog is lost ? Jul 23 14:51:55 pwgen: yep Jul 23 14:51:58 pwgen: messages too Jul 23 14:52:07 ok THX Jul 23 14:52:14 pwgen: to store phonelog, just archive /etc/freesmartphone/opimd/sqlite-calls.db Jul 23 14:54:45 dos1: .. *G* already done .. Jul 23 15:12:26 Hi. On the FSO images, can you enter umlauts (äöü) into Zhone’s SMS input? Jul 23 15:21:54 nomeata: no, have not been able (on Debian). umlauts work in other programs, but not in SMS input unfortunately. Jul 23 15:26:33 Mirv: That’s why I’d like to hear from other distros. Debian’s python-edje has a patch about encodings, and I’m not sure if it’s still beneficial, or hurting Jul 23 15:41:07 Also, Illume has a module that displays WLAN signal strength. It does not allow one to actually switch the wlan on, right? Jul 23 15:46:39 shr-settings application allows to do that Jul 23 15:49:33 is there any work being done on getting an extended phonebook into SHR? If so, can I help? Jul 23 16:30:56 blindcoder: we need opimd integration Jul 23 16:31:11 blindcoder: contacts on opimd side are already done Jul 23 16:31:58 dos1, are we able to have arbitrary fields? Jul 23 16:32:16 Blu3: arbitrary? Jul 23 16:32:22 * dos1 have to look at dictionary Jul 23 16:32:24 ;P Jul 23 16:32:50 like adding additional phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, several different IM nicks, etc Jul 23 16:33:07 Blu3: yes, you can have as much fields as you can in opimd Jul 23 16:33:16 ok Jul 23 16:33:33 dos1: can I talk to you later, gotta fix dinner first :) Jul 23 16:33:33 s/as you can/as you want/ Jul 23 16:33:33 dos1 meant: Blu3: yes, you can have as much fields as you want in opimd Jul 23 16:33:48 yup Jul 23 16:33:59 blindcoder: ok Jul 23 16:40:06 does upgrading work? Jul 23 16:55:48 heyho Jul 23 16:57:17 hi Jul 23 16:57:40 which wifi app should or can i use within shr? Jul 23 16:57:44 any hints? Jul 23 16:59:39 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gta02-core/2009-July/000239.html Jul 23 17:01:54 BluesLee, mokonnect Jul 23 17:02:00 best wifi app ever ;) Jul 23 17:02:26 mrmoku: haha Jul 23 17:03:10 mrmoku: http://shr.bearstech.com/git/?p=shr-themes.git;a=commit;h=5e507b956c134ba8faf448ef814a0745512a808b Jul 23 17:03:45 mrmoku: is this patch responsible for shorter delays when a call comes in? Jul 23 17:05:30 dos1, it even comes with linux drivers! Jul 23 17:17:41 who's avalible for some multiconnection testing :P Jul 23 17:17:48 i've implemented nat configuration from gui... and need someone to help test Jul 23 17:18:57 what are you testing? Jul 23 17:19:15 mrmoku, wanna try? Jul 23 17:29:42 mrmoku: I tried to force reinstallation of all the packages of my system with swap activated to prevent opkg from crashing. I let it run overnight: this morning it was not finished. I gave up, and I am currently reflashing :-( Jul 23 17:33:24 Blu3, nat configuration from gui... Jul 23 17:33:29 Blu3, need someone to connect to 2 places, one has internet, one does not, and use the mokonnect to configure a nat... then the one that doesnt have internet will now have internet trhough the moko Jul 23 17:34:00 ah. i can't help, my fone is still out for buzz fix Jul 23 17:34:23 aka using the moko as a nat/router/bridge Jul 23 17:34:23 between any of the 3 devices it supports :D Jul 23 17:34:23 gprs,wifi,usbnet Jul 23 17:34:29 yup Jul 23 17:34:37 so now one can make a mokonnect profile, that with one click connects and sets up a nat bridge to a gprs connection for ur laptop via usb... Jul 23 17:34:41 nat is easy Jul 23 17:34:47 i love iptables Jul 23 17:35:03 fyi, nat and bridge are two different things :) Jul 23 17:35:12 onen|openBmap: will the new openBmap version have a way to trigger upload (preferably without starting gui at all) from command line? Like one might want to make a hook to upload all his data every time he connects to the internet. Jul 23 17:35:24 afaik, the FR kernel doesn't come with ebtables Jul 23 17:37:30 crappy con Jul 23 17:37:38 Blu3, did u see my msgs? Jul 23 17:38:13 yes Jul 23 17:38:15 onen|openBmap: and do you have any news about viewing cell map in some reasonable way? Jul 23 17:38:26 and i mentioned that nat and bridging are two different things :) Jul 23 17:38:34 F4t, nat configuration? Jul 23 17:38:40 mrmoku, yep Jul 23 17:38:46 PaulFertser: command line: not in short term from my side, I fear Jul 23 17:38:47 wanna try it? it seems to work Jul 23 17:38:52 onen|openBmap: why? Jul 23 17:39:02 F4t, what do you intend by nat Jul 23 17:39:18 NetworkAddressTranslation ? like in firewalling? Jul 23 17:39:23 mrmoku, tethering, but in any direction Jul 23 17:39:30 mrmoku, yes network address translation... Jul 23 17:39:44 PaulFertser: viewing cells. yes, Nick is working on it, and has made very good progresses. sth similar to what we have on the website Jul 23 17:39:48 F4t, that would imply to use the moko as gateway? Jul 23 17:39:55 mrmoku, yes Jul 23 17:40:03 hmm... no flat dataplan Jul 23 17:40:09 gprs is damn expensive for me :( Jul 23 17:40:10 gateway to lets say gprs, on the go, for your laptop Jul 23 17:40:15 oh Jul 23 17:40:25 perhaps a wifi-less stationary computer? Jul 23 17:40:30 onen|openBmap: (viewing cells) sorry, what do you have on website? OSM viewer where you need to select a particular cell? Jul 23 17:40:38 * mrmoku got the bill today from the one and only gprs tryout... to install the openbmap-logger Jul 23 17:40:41 PaulFertser: matter of time. I would like to focus for a while on building the service giving you your position from obm data. so that people could build applicaiton on top of it. showing contributors, that it is not only about stats on our site, and viewing it in OSM Jul 23 17:40:53 onen|openBmap, hear... I paid 5 bugs to install your app ;) Jul 23 17:41:01 mrmoku, how about stationary pc -> moko -> wifi Jul 23 17:41:11 lol Jul 23 17:41:30 F4t, did you commit it? Jul 23 17:41:37 yep... svnr 102 Jul 23 17:41:46 F4t, save to rebuild probably? Jul 23 17:42:05 PaulFertser: we use openlayers yes. but the new interface we go in the right direction: zooming an area, selection only country and operator, then you see all the cells. click one to display the coverage Jul 23 17:42:08 i just want someone else to test first before shr build... but suite urself... Jul 23 17:42:23 * onen|openBmap should pay half of mrmoku's GPRS bill ;-) Jul 23 17:42:30 F4t, well, I can build and test it without syncing it to the feed Jul 23 17:42:42 mrmoku, ok, thats good Jul 23 17:42:50 * mrmoku is still wondering how to test it though Jul 23 17:43:03 PaulFertser: I am full for your command line thing. I built my app trying to make it ready for becoming a dbus service. thus command line would be a controller/view for it Jul 23 17:43:11 I could try laptop -- usb -- moko -- wifi -- router Jul 23 17:43:18 mrmoku, do u have some wifi-less computer close to an internet wifi spot? Jul 23 17:43:37 mrmoku, ye, that could work, make sure u kill wifi in laptop, so it wont get confiused Jul 23 17:43:46 F4t, yep, though my problem is that the wifi AP is in the basement Jul 23 17:43:52 oh, lol Jul 23 17:43:57 and the pcs are all upstairs Jul 23 17:44:05 PaulFertser: version 0.4.0 corrects some of your remarks already (glade file path, debug in config file) :-) Jul 23 17:44:09 and reception of moko wifi is ... aehmm... suboptimal ;) Jul 23 17:44:12 onen|openBmap: i know :) Jul 23 17:44:19 laptop works fine up here Jul 23 17:44:21 mrmoku, wheres the logic in that setup btw? Jul 23 17:44:29 onen|openBmap: (improvements, olocationd etc) really nice to hear :D Jul 23 17:44:33 but I have two other computers without wifi Jul 23 17:44:49 F4t, to have the AP in the basement? Jul 23 17:44:56 ye Jul 23 17:44:59 that's because it is DSL router too ;) Jul 23 17:45:04 and DSL is in the basement :) Jul 23 17:45:34 and for the garden basement is fine :D Jul 23 17:45:38 so u got a wireless router, that everything in the house is ocnnected to it by wires? Jul 23 17:45:47 connected* Jul 23 17:45:49 up here usually I have my laptop... so no wifi needed Jul 23 17:45:58 F4t, not really Jul 23 17:46:17 ohh.. to be honest somehow yes Jul 23 17:46:29 since I switched the DSL router to be the WIFI-DSL router Jul 23 17:46:39 but connection goes over my server (in the basement ;) Jul 23 17:46:53 nvm :P Jul 23 17:47:15 F4t, have to switch the USB mode on the moko, right? Jul 23 17:47:34 mrmoku, to client... Jul 23 17:47:47 mrmoku, it is client by default, no? Jul 23 17:48:39 F4t, hmm... if I want to connect one of the wifiless pcs up here via usb with the moko Jul 23 17:49:06 Ainulindale, ping Jul 23 17:49:29 dos1, maybe you have a better possibility to test that? Jul 23 17:49:53 what? Jul 23 17:50:07 dos1, new NAT facility of mokonnect Jul 23 17:50:21 dos1, care to test it? Jul 23 17:50:26 what does it do? ;x Jul 23 17:50:40 well, not the only connectivity option on my neo is usb cable Jul 23 17:50:51 allows u to configure a NAT between 2 ore more devices in several clicks... Jul 23 17:50:55 no gprs and no wifi :( Jul 23 17:51:02 crap Jul 23 17:51:26 F4t, ok, building it now Jul 23 17:51:33 am i the only one here with a diverse enough setup to try it? :P Jul 23 17:51:42 will try to find some way to test it ;) Jul 23 17:52:32 PaulFertser: the last item on my todo_list && paul_list is the patch about upload to go through proxy Jul 23 17:52:38 anyway, testing should be like this: from mokonnect: connect device A, connect device B, configure and apply NAT, test NAT, save profile... Jul 23 17:52:49 Hi! mrmoku do you remember my yesterday's samba request?) Jul 23 17:52:59 reboot phone, run mokonnect and reapply profile, and test nat again... Jul 23 17:53:16 max_posedon, you did not respond to my client/server question... did you? Jul 23 17:53:48 mrmoku, I did, I answered that interested in both, I can even find answer in log) Jul 23 17:54:02 max_posedon, hmm.. sorry, did miss that Jul 23 17:54:12 max_posedon, will see what builds out of the box Jul 23 17:54:18 mrmoku, i gtg, have fun with it, ill talk to you later today if u are still awake... Jul 23 17:54:20 after building mokonnect Jul 23 17:54:28 F4t, ok, have fun too ;) Jul 23 17:54:32 10x Jul 23 17:54:32 np, its easy for me remind it even every day) Jul 23 17:55:25 max_posedon, :) Jul 23 17:56:41 Is anyone aware how e17 on SHR gets noticed about power button presses? The event comes via input/events0, which at least on Debian is not opened by the Xserver by default Jul 23 17:57:55 nomeata, IIRC e17 handles that Jul 23 17:58:08 you can configure the button presses via illume config Jul 23 17:58:28 max_posedon, 3.0.23c too old? Jul 23 18:01:09 mrmoku, I don't know, I think its better than nothing Jul 23 18:01:23 ok, lets start with that one :) Jul 23 18:01:26 mrmoku: yes, but where does e17 get the event. Here, no key presses are reported to X applications for PWR presses Jul 23 18:01:36 (because it is what it builds when doing bitbake samba :) Jul 23 18:03:34 nomeata, not sure about that one Jul 23 18:08:26 nomeata, It is, if you use hall. Jul 23 18:08:35 s/hall/hal/ Jul 23 18:08:35 thrashold meant: nomeata, It is, if you use hal. Jul 23 18:09:25 thrashold: Debian uses hal, but it does not appear. maybe some .fdi files are needed? Jul 23 18:09:56 thrashold: could you maybe paste your Xorg.log and the output of lshal somewhere? Jul 23 18:10:07 nomeata, I have configured none (besides the one for my touchscreen, to enable right click) Jul 23 18:10:15 OK Jul 23 18:10:43 thrashold: you configured right-click via a .fdi file? interesting, how do you do that? Jul 23 18:10:43 Err, does AUX work for you? Jul 23 18:10:47 thrashold: yes Jul 23 18:10:53 OK, my bad... Jul 23 18:10:55 thrashold: AUX does, PWR not Jul 23 18:11:05 I had to run hal for AUX Jul 23 18:11:16 I haven't tested power Jul 23 18:11:22 sorry Jul 23 18:11:31 thrashold: are you running Debian or something else? Jul 23 18:11:35 Debian Jul 23 18:11:55 AUX is on event4 Jul 23 18:12:18 Have you tried to add event0 as an event device? Jul 23 18:12:29 (If you are sure the power button is on event0?) Jul 23 18:16:19 my suggestion didn't work for me :) Jul 23 18:16:44 I added event0 to xorg.conf and still nothing happens when I press it Jul 23 18:17:26 nomeata, Errrr, I think I remembered Jul 23 18:20:17 thrashold: lshal shows that event4 has input.x11_driver = 'evdev' set, but event0 not. I wonder what decides about this. Jul 23 18:22:07 http://pastebin.com/m13737b60 Jul 23 18:22:18 Try disabling hal and setting event0 like I did set up event4 Jul 23 18:22:28 I don't know if disabling hal is needed, though Jul 23 18:22:42 This was my config to get AUX working without hal Jul 23 18:26:15 thrashold: I found out something else: in hal, event4 has info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.keys', 'input.switch', 'button'}, while event0 has info.capabilities = {'input', 'button'}, and the .fdi for evdev only reacts on input.keys Jul 23 18:27:06 Now I wonder how other distros have solved this Jul 23 18:27:10 Maybe you could try to change this. Jul 23 18:27:28 I'm almost sure that something catches the button press and executes something that pops the E thing :) Jul 23 18:27:50 For some reason I can't find what executed 'apm -s' on my Debian before I got rid of it Jul 23 18:28:23 thrashold: o-p-p? Jul 23 18:28:40 Erm? Jul 23 18:29:52 thrashold: on debian, apm -s is probably executed by either o-p-p or frameworkd Jul 23 18:30:09 I don't know what o-p-p is. Jul 23 18:30:34 thrashold: openmoko-panel-plugin - the thousand icons in the panel Jul 23 18:30:51 But it was probably framework, since I removed and installed last version from git. Jul 23 18:32:40 It should be oeventsd, but I can't find anything in rules.yaml for it. Jul 23 18:33:31 nomeata, I installed xev and it reports the power press Jul 23 18:35:53 mrmoku: interesting. do you have hal installed (check by running lshal) Jul 23 18:36:04 nomeata, nvm... no, not really Jul 23 18:36:09 got confused by xev output :P Jul 23 18:36:29 mrmoku: ok :-). usually best to run xev via SSH, so you can check the output on the computer Jul 23 18:36:54 yep, did that... got confused anyway :) Jul 23 18:37:18 mrmoku: so no xev events? Jul 23 18:41:10 hmm, SHR (at least the old image on my freerunner) uses xglamo, and not xorg + glamo driver, maybe that makes a difference as well Jul 23 18:44:56 nomeata, lots of events... but they come from the menu popping up :) Jul 23 18:45:11 mrmoku: and at the beginning? Jul 23 18:45:25 mrmoku: no Key_PWR od keycode 117 or something Jul 23 18:46:57