**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 14 02:59:57 2009 Aug 14 05:32:31 should the wifi_ifupdown.patch be put into the 2.6.29 kernel? https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277 Aug 14 05:32:58 wlan works quite ok for me with that Aug 14 05:33:12 how many people have access to git.openmoko.org / kernel btw? Aug 14 05:33:23 (idea: those people could be listed in the wiki...) Aug 14 05:34:24 Mirv: does your wifi work after "ifconfig down/ifconfig up"? Aug 14 05:35:11 budfive_: the driver wasn't able to survive that without the patch. I don't think this was fixed yet, but I'm not sure Aug 14 05:36:57 budfive_: yes, with that patch it does work (I'm the last commenter on that ticket) Aug 14 05:37:16 and was wondering if the patch should therefore be put into git properly Aug 14 05:37:27 Mirv: Oh, ok. That patch is a workaround, not a solution, so probably best to include it. Aug 14 05:37:36 Mirv: best to NOT include it that is Aug 14 05:38:18 Mirv: Ideally somebody would clean up the whole driver at some point, but I just don't have the time now. Aug 14 05:39:05 budfive_: right. of course, having a workaround in would mean a lot to the average user... but maybe not if it's too ugly an workaround Aug 14 05:39:30 maybe I'll then ask if Debian kernel could have it for now as a separate patch :) Aug 14 05:39:44 I have my own built kernel, but with that patch I could use the Debian-supplied one Aug 14 05:41:29 Mirv: Yeah, I don't know what the right answer is. Keeping this broken should hopefully prevent complacency by the devs Aug 14 05:42:08 Mirv: do you know if the ar6k driver is the same in the openwrt 2.6.30 tree? Aug 14 05:43:26 budfive_: huh? it was broken in february and we could easily have gone back there Aug 14 06:04:03 no, I dunno about ar6k in the later kernels. Aug 14 06:20:09 Mirv: yes it is Aug 14 06:20:17 the same Aug 14 06:32:20 dos1, hmmm... your bootsplash looks strange :P Aug 14 06:32:32 just a full screen of colored mixed pixels Aug 14 06:32:45 did something wrong zipping it? Aug 14 06:55:31 hey guys, i have a quick question. how do i get my gps working on the latest shr-u? Aug 14 06:58:49 abatrour: it should "just work" - using navit or tangogps f.ex. Aug 14 06:59:03 if not - try a different version. I've heard 8/8-2009 is rather stable Aug 14 06:59:13 for some reason it doesn't off of a stock install Aug 14 06:59:25 abatrour: a stock install from which date? Aug 14 06:59:39 that is the latest unstable version on the site. Aug 14 06:59:48 august 8 Aug 14 07:00:09 that didn't work, then i tried an opkg-cl update and upgrade and that didn't change anything Aug 14 07:00:13 I'll go out and verify my gps still works once my opkg upgrade is done Aug 14 07:00:31 what's the diff between opkg and opkg-cl btw. ? Aug 14 07:00:52 its a bug Aug 14 07:00:58 something about a sym link missing Aug 14 07:01:10 so just a naming thing Aug 14 07:01:13 yeah Aug 14 07:01:19 opkg has continued working here Aug 14 07:01:29 even though I accidently upgraded while fso was borked Aug 14 07:01:35 aparently it was always named opkg-cl and it had a symlink pointing to opkg or something Aug 14 07:01:41 and its missing in the last few builds Aug 14 07:01:46 I just have to wait forever for the upgrade of navit to finish Aug 14 07:01:59 the opkg file is 3mb - but it takes ~5 minutes to upgrade :( Aug 14 07:02:17 im going to a concert tomorrow so im trying really hard to get gps working so i dont get lost lol Aug 14 07:02:42 abatrour: you use navit? Aug 14 07:02:58 well tangogps came preinstalled on shr-u Aug 14 07:03:01 so im using that Aug 14 07:03:20 i may try navit if i can get the gps to connect but does navit still screw with the sound? Aug 14 07:04:35 abatrour: do you prefetch maps for your location or? Aug 14 07:04:42 or are you using gprs Aug 14 07:04:56 well tangogps has an option to pre download the maps Aug 14 07:05:04 it seems a take a while though Aug 14 07:05:09 abatrour: I've never found one that works Aug 14 07:05:16 could my system time be messing up the gps? Aug 14 07:05:21 if you have a method that works - pls. share :) Aug 14 07:05:28 I don't think so. Aug 14 07:05:37 be sure you are outside Aug 14 07:05:44 and if you have gsm enabled - the fix is faster Aug 14 07:05:45 how do i set the hardware clock? it seems every time i set my clock and then take out the battery its completely off again Aug 14 07:05:48 it can still take two minutes though Aug 14 07:06:21 i have my phone on the ledge outside the window and i've been waiting about half an hour to get a signal Aug 14 07:06:24 hwclock -w on normal system :) Aug 14 07:06:46 according to the man page - I figure it should work the same on shr Aug 14 07:06:50 ok, so i set my time with "date (***)" Aug 14 07:07:00 which ever way you want Aug 14 07:07:03 and then type hwclock -w to sync it? Aug 14 07:07:17 do man hwclock on your linux system (not shr) Aug 14 07:07:23 how do i set my time code, like gmt pst etc Aug 14 07:07:29 timezone Aug 14 07:07:44 yeah my timezone Aug 14 07:07:54 /etc/timezone Aug 14 07:08:05 on a debian system you then do dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Aug 14 07:08:12 don't know what to do on shr Aug 14 07:08:17 perhaps a reboot will work :) Aug 14 07:08:45 i've rebooted a few times but sadly it didn't work Aug 14 07:09:43 you have set /etc/timezone correctly ? Aug 14 07:11:28 DocScrutinizer: what is strange is that if it's the issue i saw (easily reproducible when gprs is barely usable due to network saturation, i guess) is that ActivateContext call doesn't hang or something like that, it returns DBusError. mickey|dinner should know the code path that can lead to that... Aug 14 07:12:01 i think i just set my timezone correctly now Aug 14 07:12:09 there really needs to be some gui for it to make it easier Aug 14 07:12:22 the gui included only lets me change the time, not the date or timezone Aug 14 07:12:58 abatrour: suggest it on the shr trac - or use the shr dev. guide and add it ;) Aug 14 07:13:29 im too stupid to figure that stuff out Aug 14 07:17:59 abatrour: if you can get yourself on irc - you can learn the rest. It's just a matter of prioritizing your time Aug 14 07:19:02 having two kids (of 3 months and 3 years respectively) and a busted house needing to get fixed so living in it can be better - makes me prioritize that stuff less :) Aug 14 07:19:12 abatrour: gps works fine here Aug 14 07:19:18 just got a fix with tangogps Aug 14 07:19:35 this is retarded Aug 14 07:19:36 btw. holding the phone out a window often makes the fix take longer - as it doesn't get ahold of as many satellites Aug 14 07:19:44 still nothing for me Aug 14 07:19:47 abatrour: have you upgraded to latest? Aug 14 07:19:53 are you using uboot or qi? Aug 14 07:20:01 yes i have upgraded Aug 14 07:20:06 i will try it again though Aug 14 07:20:11 uboot - running shr from nand Aug 14 07:20:28 abatrour: try running tangogps from a console - and see if there's any error output Aug 14 07:22:30 tons of stuff on the screen Aug 14 07:22:41 and now its outputting cb_gps_timer () Aug 14 07:23:33 is there a command to check my gps status? Aug 14 07:25:10 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS Aug 14 07:25:17 see if there's anything of use there Aug 14 07:26:12 abatrour: on shr you can check in the settings dialog Aug 14 07:26:46 it says no fix Aug 14 07:29:26 do you have a microsd card in your phone? Aug 14 07:29:26 abatrour: I never get a fix in a house, but outside it usually takes just a few seconds Aug 14 07:29:31 yes Aug 14 07:31:58 do you think it would make much of a difference if i had uboot or qi on here? Aug 14 07:33:08 for gps? no Aug 14 07:48:53 btw. the other end of a phonecall hears an echo of their own voice when using speaker Aug 14 07:49:04 latest shr om gta02a7 Aug 14 07:49:22 any ideas where to poke to try and fix Aug 14 07:49:46 and where do I increase the volume when in handset mode? Aug 14 07:50:23 * FiXion really misses easily accessible volume controls - while calling - so I can easily adjust current volume setting Aug 14 07:50:44 FiXion, we too. Aug 14 07:51:29 FiXion: don't think that's freerunner specific. I have the same problem with each and every siemens gigaset I ever used Aug 14 07:51:56 well i finally got a signal Aug 14 07:52:16 after standing outside for 20 minutes while constantly turning the gps on and off in the shr settings Aug 14 07:52:17 blindcoder: I have a siemens gigaset s685 and have no such problems. I absolute enjoy the speaker mode Aug 14 07:52:27 it only started working after the settings menu crashed Aug 14 07:52:43 abatrour: you need to let the gps on Aug 14 07:52:49 abatrour: not turn it off again and again :P Aug 14 07:52:59 TAsn: any idea how to fix? is it a hardware or software issue? Aug 14 07:53:09 FiXion: hmm, okayv got a 3000 comfort here Aug 14 07:53:26 FiXion, hw. with possible fixing on the software side. Aug 14 07:53:33 no one knows how though Aug 14 07:53:41 it's the biggest issue with the fr. Aug 14 07:53:41 ;\ Aug 14 07:54:22 blindcoder: the handset itself is called 68H Aug 14 07:55:12 TAsn: :( Aug 14 07:55:28 I haven't used the headphones yet.. hoping they work well Aug 14 07:55:43 the handset mode is a bit too low :( Aug 14 07:56:02 I have enabled volume control in illume - but there's 20knobs and the ones that seem relevant are at 95% already Aug 14 07:57:18 on my laptop I know there's several knobs that actually increase the same volume.. Aug 14 07:57:35 FiXion: there's a routing diagram Aug 14 07:57:46 FiXion: that explains every control present Aug 14 07:58:05 PaulFertser: link ? or should I just search the wiki for "routing diagram" Aug 14 07:58:16 FiXion: Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem page Aug 14 07:58:54 FiXion: btw, if you want to use a wired headset for gsm, be prepared to shock the other party with buzz. Aug 14 08:04:24 PaulFertser: the wired headset that comes with the phone is unusable then? Aug 14 08:04:42 neo1973.. is this the same for gta02a7 ? Aug 14 08:05:05 FiXion: not unusable. It's just that most of the time if you use it for GSM it will intruduce buzz. Aug 14 08:05:26 FiXion: some folks said it's not too loud in certain conditions. Aug 14 08:05:53 FiXion: that page is for gta02, the control names are gta02 specific. Just the name is misleading. Aug 14 08:06:02 hehe - ok. Aug 14 08:06:25 sad to hear about the earphones :( Aug 14 08:07:31 on my sony ericsson k750i - the headset was perfect. When using it, with the mic under a thin scarf-like thing around the neck - people heard me as if I was in a silent room Aug 14 08:07:36 even though I was cycling in strong headwinds Aug 14 08:07:56 ohh well Aug 14 08:08:08 * FiXion hopes for better hardware at some point :) Aug 14 08:08:58 PaulFertser: there's something on the diagram called "from gps" - but there's no such name in alsamixer Aug 14 08:09:06 FiXion: you might want still to get it a chance. Probably you have very strong signal from base station there and FR uses very low output power and so no buzz. Aug 14 08:09:20 FiXion: from GSM, not from gps Aug 14 08:11:59 I'll test it. Aug 14 08:12:05 what the heck is 3D f.ex. Aug 14 08:12:19 I can't seem to match any of the names on the diagram to actual listings in alsamixer :( Aug 14 08:12:33 FiXion: that advanced knowledge can be gathered only by reading the datasheet ;) Aug 14 08:12:59 FiXion: it's inside a special block on the diagram (something like dsp-processing) Aug 14 08:15:27 FiXion: you need to get this stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laringophone :) Aug 14 08:17:07 PaulFertser: they seem expensive :) and the mic really worked perfectly while hidden under the scarf-thing Aug 14 08:17:39 I was amazed - I tried to ask a few if they heard any static at all.. they didn't Aug 14 08:18:18 but that phone is old now.. joystick control has gone on the fritz for the second time now.. and now it's too old to get fixed on warranty Aug 14 08:19:20 I'll experiment with it. my amixer controls looks a lot different from the example output on the wiki page Aug 14 08:19:43 I have an ROUT2 PHASE f.ex. Aug 14 08:19:49 wonder what the h... it does Aug 14 08:20:07 ROUT2 seems to be the handset earpiece speaker Aug 14 08:20:32 * FiXion needs to start working Aug 14 08:21:23 just one thing.. where do I adjust ringing volume and tone ? Aug 14 08:21:24 FiXion: (different amixer output) really? strange. Aug 14 08:21:37 I miss the phone ringing almost every time Aug 14 08:22:07 PaulFertser: http://pastie.org/583774 Aug 14 08:22:12 FiXion: the phone ringing is the sound generated by SoC and routed to the main speaker. Adjust volume for all amps in the path. Aug 14 08:23:01 FiXion: your output is just unsorted. Aug 14 08:23:45 I noticed that- just didn't check properly obviously :) Aug 14 08:23:48 too many knobs Aug 14 08:23:50 :) Aug 14 08:24:39 PaulFertser: which is the "main speaker" on the top diagram? Aug 14 08:24:53 there are two lines out in right side called "To spkr" Aug 14 08:25:52 I guess I could crank up 54 - seems to be the first after gsm input Aug 14 08:26:02 FiXion: yes, it's the one Aug 14 08:26:23 FiXion: (to spkr) is the main speaker Aug 14 08:26:35 FiXion: and don't look at numbers on the first diagram, better look at names on the second. Aug 14 08:26:49 FiXion: i've no idea if the numbers are correct or not. Aug 14 08:26:56 54 - RX Mixer Aug 14 08:27:09 seems to just select between "stuff" - and not control volume directly Aug 14 08:27:15 so some sort of routing selector Aug 14 08:27:33 what should that be set to? any explanation of the options anywhere? Aug 14 08:27:39 FiXion: if you start alsamixer you'll see Headphone Playback Volume (in fact you'll see only a slider in the playback tab saying "Headphone") Aug 14 08:27:44 * FiXion sorely misses some basic documentation :) Aug 14 08:28:08 FiXion: why do you want to touch Rx Mixer? Aug 14 08:28:19 headphone and headphonoe playback cz Aug 14 08:28:32 PaulFertser: I thought it was a volume control - and now I realized it's not - I was just curous Aug 14 08:28:34 FiXion: it's a switch like you say, doesn't affect sound volume. Aug 14 08:28:36 curious Aug 14 08:28:48 I accidently switched it (thinking it was a colume control) Aug 14 08:28:55 now I don't know what it should be set to Aug 14 08:29:25 FiXion: some really detailed and understandable explanation is in the wm8753 datasheet. It's just that you don't mostly need that knowledge to simply control volume. Aug 14 08:31:05 FiXion: RXP - RXN Aug 14 08:31:20 FiXion: that means "differential input" Aug 14 08:31:53 what the heck is differential input ? Aug 14 08:32:34 rxp - rxn Aug 14 08:32:37 FiXion: it's when the signal is difference between two pins Aug 14 08:32:38 and then there's rxp + rxn Aug 14 08:33:23 FiXion: that's when it sums up the signal (relative to ground) from both pins. Aug 14 08:33:49 and it should subtract it Aug 14 08:34:00 so rxn is the "background signal" Aug 14 08:34:17 and rxp - rxn means it filters background "noice" away Aug 14 08:34:22 * FiXion guesses wildly Aug 14 08:34:36 FiXion: no Aug 14 08:34:47 would be too amazing if it was true :) Aug 14 08:35:05 what's the diff between rxp - rxn and just rxp Aug 14 08:35:11 FiXion: http://www.microlink.co.uk/differential.html Aug 14 08:36:10 so it reduces noice in the rxp - rxn mode Aug 14 08:36:23 thanks for the link Aug 14 08:38:26 I tried using mplayer to play this stream: wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay - Aug 14 08:38:38 arghh. hate it when \n is included in a cut'n'paste Aug 14 08:38:47 madplay isn't in the repositories Aug 14 08:38:57 mplayer complains it can't find /dev/dsp Aug 14 08:39:08 anyone have a mplayer config file that works? Aug 14 08:39:10 FiXion: /dev/dsp is old oss stuff, don't use it Aug 14 08:39:20 FiXion: tell mplayer to use -ao alsa Aug 14 08:39:25 it seems to be what default installed mplayer uses Aug 14 08:39:31 FiXion: now i found a better link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_input Aug 14 08:40:56 hmm. mplayer says it's playing (or seem to be saying that) - but there's no sound Aug 14 08:41:04 anyone have a radio stream test of some kind? Aug 14 08:41:58 it doesn't start playing Aug 14 08:42:03 the numbers aren't changing Aug 14 08:42:22 the same command: mplayer http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 Aug 14 08:42:26 works perfectly on my laptop Aug 14 08:42:54 FiXion: wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | mpg321 - Aug 14 08:42:58 FiXion: works atm on my FR Aug 14 08:43:37 PaulFertser: mplayer doesn't work on yours either? Aug 14 08:43:53 FiXion: i don't have mplayer installed, so can't check Aug 14 08:43:57 FiXion: but it should work Aug 14 08:44:00 PaulFertser: what package is mpg321 in? Aug 14 08:44:05 FiXion: i'm a debian user Aug 14 08:44:09 opkg says mpg321 package doesn't exist Aug 14 08:44:13 PaulFertser: I remember.. :) Aug 14 08:44:26 * FiXion would like to find the time to become one himself on the FR Aug 14 08:44:48 PaulFertser: thank you for your help - I'll fiddle more with it when I get the time Aug 14 08:44:58 FiXion: you're welcome Aug 14 08:49:09 FiXion: works for me: wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay - -o wave:- | aplay - Aug 14 08:49:49 madplay isn't in shr either :( Aug 14 08:49:58 shr repo seems rather limited.. Aug 14 08:50:05 there's good reason to run Debian instead :) Aug 14 08:50:34 shr would be great if they "just" added their shr programs and FR settings to the repo Aug 14 08:50:44 "the repo" being the Debian repository Aug 14 08:50:55 or atleast maintained their own which could just be added to the sources Aug 14 08:51:10 * FiXion is just hoping for some more collaboration and less wheel reinventing :) Aug 14 08:52:23 FiXion: there's a recipe for madplay. it's only not built by default :) Aug 14 08:52:57 PaulFertser: I've just updated my gta01 kernel, looks like e battery applet feels better with it :) Aug 14 08:53:40 rtp: odd Aug 14 08:53:59 I've never had a debian app which has a src package - but not a bin equivalent Aug 14 08:54:11 I haven't looked ofcourse- but never ran across one Aug 14 08:54:39 ohh well - I need to earn a living.. it's almost 11am here.. need to start working :) Aug 14 08:59:54 rtp: :) Aug 14 09:02:15 PaulFertser: I found a fix for my rtc bug about alarm stuff. This one was already fixed in the 50633 driver but the patches were never applied to 50606 :( Aug 14 09:02:28 PaulFertser: any reason for keeping 2 very similar rtc drivers ? Aug 14 09:02:44 rtp: haven't looked into this Aug 14 09:03:41 ok. Aug 14 09:07:50 PaulFertser: fwiw, the patch I made is this one : http://www.rtp-net.org/openmoko/rtc_fixes.patch While I was at it, I fixed some message loglevel :) Aug 14 09:10:17 rtp: very cool. I'll integrate it as soon as i am able. I'll split to two patches and add your signed-off-by's ok? Aug 14 09:11:55 PaulFertser: yeah, it's fine for me Aug 14 09:12:41 PaulFertser: made the patch this morning before going to work so no time to split it /o\ Aug 14 09:17:17 PaulFertser: (frameworkd gprs stall) well at least for me that's a showstopper. We honestly should tackle that Aug 14 09:19:10 DocScrutinizer: is it a new bug ? I had some troubles long time ago (modem hang) with gprs and switching to abyss solved it Aug 14 09:19:42 it's not that bug Aug 14 09:20:32 frameworkd in it's ogsmd personality freezes when inbound call during GPRS Aug 14 09:21:12 AIUI Aug 14 09:21:25 so as long as I'm lucky enough to do gprs without being called, it's fine ? :) Aug 14 09:21:32 seems related to pppd Aug 14 09:22:37 ~18h backscroll you find 3 pastebin-URLs of the relevant logs Aug 14 09:23:27 http://pastebin.com/f2c67219d http://pastebin.com/ff1865d5 http://pastebin.com/f3c6898b Aug 14 09:24:07 I would be surprised that there's a recent change in pppd so it's a change somewhere else causing this imho Aug 14 09:25:00 maybe it's been there for long time? Aug 14 09:25:46 and just needs a few conditions to be met to rise its ugly head Aug 14 09:27:36 it's not impossible but unlikely (or we're really unlucky, which is possible too) Aug 14 09:30:05 I'm getting buildable shr-u images that wont boot - are there current problems?? Aug 14 09:31:12 none known afaik Aug 14 09:31:37 at least wrt boot ;-P Aug 14 09:34:09 rats - must be me :( Aug 14 10:30:11 hey, how could i make right click(stay for a while on one point) possibe? kernel or better X/WM/Driver? Aug 14 10:32:22 naeg: there's been a couple of implementations. Sorry no pointer at hand. But prolly you simply need to pick the solution that best meets your needs Aug 14 11:04:59 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-themes * r3fd647553147 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee/ (41 files in 2 dirs): e-wm-theme-niebiee: update simplelock, launcher icons and buttons on top shelf Aug 14 11:20:50 TAsn: ping Aug 14 11:41:15 dos1, did you fix your splash? Aug 14 11:41:21 mrmoku: fix? Aug 14 11:41:33 start splash is broken... shutdown splash is fine Aug 14 11:41:45 mrmoku: hmm? what's the problem? Aug 14 11:41:48 start splash shows just colored pixels Aug 14 11:41:49 it works here Aug 14 11:41:59 dos1, did you install the package from the feed? Aug 14 11:42:03 mrmoku: yes Aug 14 11:42:05 hmm Aug 14 11:42:42 strange then Aug 14 11:44:15 * dos1 is stupid Aug 14 11:44:35 to change gsm icons in illume theme from black to white i played with gimp Aug 14 11:44:38 transparency masks Aug 14 11:44:39 etc. Aug 14 11:44:48 dos1, semi pong. Aug 14 11:44:54 today i discovered "color invertion" :D Aug 14 11:45:00 ? Aug 14 11:45:08 TAsn: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ Aug 14 11:45:24 TAsn: when i changed font size under launcher icons, Aug 14 11:45:37 TAsn: icons from SHR theme looks perfectly on x11-16 Aug 14 11:45:51 cool. Aug 14 11:45:52 gimme Aug 14 11:45:55 what do I need to install? Aug 14 11:46:01 TAsn: i was probably lucky and i matched good icon size ;) Aug 14 11:46:09 dos1: yuk Aug 14 11:46:12 this is too blue Aug 14 11:46:19 ;) Aug 14 11:46:25 dos1: make a dark them ;< Aug 14 11:46:33 btw, dos1, please replace that ugly battery theme :( Aug 14 11:46:43 TAsn: e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee, but you have to bug mrmoku to build it Aug 14 11:46:44 dos1: you should a second colour Aug 14 11:46:51 and it should be done according to the logo Aug 14 11:46:55 but this blue is agressive Aug 14 11:46:59 dos1, did you change it? Aug 14 11:46:59 maybe a light grey? Aug 14 11:47:01 mrmoku, build it! (please) Aug 14 11:47:03 * mrmoku already built it Aug 14 11:47:10 Ainulindale, I agree, that'l exactly what I think.. Aug 14 11:47:11 TAsn: but i'll commit few changes soon Aug 14 11:47:22 ok. Aug 14 11:47:26 so i'll wait. Aug 14 11:47:35 Ainulindale: that's theme is "extremely blue" by design :P Aug 14 11:47:45 hmmm well as you wish but it won't have my vote :p Aug 14 11:47:55 as i supposed ;) Aug 14 11:48:01 i don't think it should be default theme Aug 14 11:48:13 maybe i'll do later some other based on niebiee, but with few other colors Aug 14 11:48:21 but niebiee will stay extremely blue :D Aug 14 11:48:29 Ainulindale, I thought you didn't care about GUI :) Aug 14 11:48:38 Ainulindale, anyhow, I also hate this blue, but the theme itself rocks. Aug 14 11:48:46 TAsn: well I don't care but I can give my opinion Aug 14 11:48:55 Ainulindale, of course. Aug 14 11:49:00 But this opinion is subjective and not given by the SHR leader but by me Aug 14 11:49:02 dos1, I think x11-16 and niebee (gray) will rock. Aug 14 11:49:23 I'm only relevant on team management & technical subjects anyway Aug 14 11:49:38 Ainulindale, this blue is ugly by all opinions (except maybe dos1) though it just works great :) Aug 14 11:49:45 heh Aug 14 11:50:17 * mrmoku likes blue too Aug 14 11:50:45 omg, they are taking over :( Aug 14 11:50:57 (the blue ppl) Aug 14 11:50:58 hehe :D Aug 14 11:51:14 TAsn: when i did my website layout almost everyone said "it's too blue" Aug 14 11:51:21 TAsn: but i liked it :D Aug 14 11:51:38 Well as long as it's not the default theme I'm ok with it -:p Aug 14 11:54:03 TAsn: i'll change battery theme, but later Aug 14 11:54:19 Ainulindale, duh. :) but do you agree we need a different default theme though? Aug 14 11:54:25 dos1, lazy ass. :| Aug 14 11:54:27 :) Aug 14 12:02:49 dos1, you forgot to blueize the power off dialog ;) Aug 14 12:03:04 mrmoku: keyboard as well ;) Aug 14 12:03:09 mrmoku: it isn't finished yet :) Aug 14 12:03:12 :) Aug 14 12:03:49 >:-( Aug 14 12:03:58 * DocScrutinizer curses opkg Aug 14 12:04:57 dos1, hmm... i did force-reinstall the splash... and now I get no splash at all Aug 14 12:04:59 "opkg install *-doc" -> "collected errors: * cannot find package *-doc" Aug 14 12:05:01 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-themes * r934397aaf39d 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee/images/ (bluetooth.png wifi_1.png wifi_2.png wifi_3.png wifi_4.png): e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee: update bluetooth and wifi icons Aug 14 12:05:12 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-themes * r03a26e03a565 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee/images/ (icon_left_arrow.png icon_right_arrow.png sqbut.wht.png): e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee: update few graphics to look better in x11-16 Aug 14 12:05:13 maybe should try .*-doc? Aug 14 12:05:22 mrmoku: do you have shr-splash upgraded? Aug 14 12:05:40 i recently changed compression method from gzip to bzip2 Aug 14 12:05:55 dos1, shutdown splash works though Aug 14 12:06:02 hmm Aug 14 12:06:40 nah, opkg --help lies to me Aug 14 12:06:52 heh Aug 14 12:06:54 pkg_state_want_from_str: ERROR: Illegal value for state_want string: inalall Aug 14 12:06:58 what's that ? Aug 14 12:07:54 and Aug 14 12:07:55 * Package kernel-module-sha256-generic version 2.6.29-oe10+gitr119838+2d158aae9d8d36f575504f59884ed8e80802efe2-r3.5 has no architecture specified, defaulting to om-gta02. Aug 14 12:08:08 dos1, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d26c992d3b7b83966a1bd39c65ff7e0b.png Aug 14 12:08:26 please consider making the background more streamline with the effect in the shelf Aug 14 12:08:28 mrmoku: fsck your rootfs ;) Aug 14 12:08:29 do you get what I mean? Aug 14 12:08:50 TAsn: yes, but Aug 14 12:08:54 dos1, it is plain fresh Aug 14 12:08:57 TAsn: with still solid color? Aug 14 12:09:04 dos1, will do anyway Aug 14 12:09:08 dos1, no, you have a transition in the shelf Aug 14 12:09:14 just let in continue to the background Aug 14 12:09:17 TAsn: but not in launcher background Aug 14 12:09:25 TAsn: in launcher i have solid color Aug 14 12:09:31 I know Aug 14 12:09:39 you should keep the shelfs coloring Aug 14 12:09:41 hmm Aug 14 12:09:45 and change the laucnher background Aug 14 12:09:46 dos1, btw.... what happened to the installer icon? Aug 14 12:09:51 to conform to the transition in the shelf. Aug 14 12:09:57 there is also horizontal gradient in shelf Aug 14 12:10:01 but i'll try to do something Aug 14 12:10:08 mrmoku: nothing Aug 14 12:10:15 mrmoku: it wasn't there at all ;) Aug 14 12:11:18 fscks just fine... Aug 14 12:11:54 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-themes * r31adb8c4dc78 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee/images/icon_right_arrow.png: e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee: update few graphics to look better in x11-16 part 2 Aug 14 12:33:50 TAsn: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ Aug 14 12:33:56 TAsn: what do you think now? Aug 14 12:34:21 I think Aug 14 12:34:23 that scap is low. Aug 14 12:34:24 with simple lock it rocks, but i don't know if it's good for top shelf Aug 14 12:34:25 slow* Aug 14 12:34:40 * TAsn is still waiting for it to load. Aug 14 12:35:09 awesome Aug 14 12:35:12 the white line breaks it Aug 14 12:35:16 and makes it look great Aug 14 12:35:18 and the background is nice Aug 14 12:35:23 :) Aug 14 12:35:27 ok, commiting then :D Aug 14 12:35:27 I like the white line a lot ;) Aug 14 12:35:29 cool ;) Aug 14 12:39:17 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-themes * r34770dc6a65d 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee/ (illume-niebiee.edc images/lock_bg.png images/shelf_bg.png): e-wm-theme-illume-niebiee: change desktop background and add "shiny-white-line-which-rocks" to topshelf and simplelock Aug 14 12:39:36 http://wiki.shr-project.org/trac/attachment/wiki/LogoContest/shr-waves.png <-- looks like sperm to me ;\ Aug 14 12:39:52