**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 07 02:59:57 2009 Sep 07 04:58:59 mornig,....someone got a hint for a light-console-pop3-client to crosscompile with the OM-tootchain? tried to crosscompile libspopc "http://brouits.free.fr/libspopc/"...(wich works graet on my i386) ....without success x(wich works graet on my i386) ... Sep 07 05:23:00 freesmartphone.org: seba.dos1 framework * r32928fa5a562 /framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_tasks.py: opimd: Tasks: fix Update Sep 07 07:08:53 07:26 < holtmann> http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Implementations/dbus-hlid Sep 07 07:08:57 07:26 < holtmann> That is btw. another fuckup of FSO. Sep 07 07:08:59 07:26 < holtmann> The GSM mux with two libraries, one extra daemon and D-Bus between that and their GSM daemon is pure stupid. No wonder that this is slow. Sep 07 07:09:02 07:27 < denkenz> yah, but a full telephony stack is just too much for them to bite off Sep 07 07:09:05 07:28 < denkenz> Especially on the shit hardware they had Sep 07 07:13:30 uh oh Sep 07 07:14:08 http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Implementations/dbus-hlid Sep 07 07:14:12 ups Sep 07 08:31:04 hi Ainulindale Sep 07 08:31:08 time for a quick query ? Sep 07 09:07:53 Ainulindale: r u around ? Sep 07 09:14:34 vegyraupe: hello there, welcome! Sep 07 09:15:09 hi rhkfin Sep 07 09:15:18 only here for a few minutes Sep 07 09:15:26 trying to get Ainulindale to respond :) Sep 07 09:15:40 ok :) Sep 07 09:21:47 * vegyraupe seems to be unlucky today :( Sep 07 09:21:58 anyhow later :) Sep 07 10:46:11 *sigh* I feel too stupid for git Sep 07 10:51:04 хбпд 23 Sep 07 10:51:07 blindcoder: welcome to the club ;-) Sep 07 10:52:04 blindcoder: i had to use bzr today, was surprised by it, can't see why can anybody prefer that to git. Sep 07 10:52:28 I still love svn Sep 07 10:52:44 blindcoder: that means you don't understand DVCS :-/ Sep 07 10:52:50 PaulFertser: I've been told to 'git add dir' 'git comit dir' and 'git send-email HEAD^..HEAD' Sep 07 10:53:05 and the last one just gives me an error and the help text Sep 07 10:53:45 dvcs --> you can use it offline, and is *FAST* Sep 07 10:53:59 also, I couldn't find a howto on the shr-project.org site and not on google :( Sep 07 10:54:13 blindcoder: tried man git-send-email? Sep 07 10:54:22 blindcoder: what exactly the error? Sep 07 10:54:36 blindcoder@fortuna:~/SHR/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes$ git send-email HEAD^..HEAD Sep 07 10:54:39 Skipping HEAD^..HEAD - not found. Sep 07 10:54:41 No patch files specified! Sep 07 10:55:38 after that, the help tetx Sep 07 10:55:43 blindcoder: you're supposed to use "git format-patch HEAD^" first Sep 07 10:55:54 grmpf Sep 07 10:55:57 blindcoder: it'll give you the patch, you'll send it with git send-email or other way you like. Sep 07 10:56:06 * blindcoder mumbles something about svn diff Sep 07 10:56:14 blindcoder: there's git diff as well. Sep 07 10:56:26 blindcoder: but svn is not nearly as convenient to send patches by mail. Sep 07 10:58:26 PaulFertser: if I get it right git-send-email is a script that sends files by mail Sep 07 10:58:54 but I don't want to discuss versioning system semantics, I want to send paches to shr-dev list Sep 07 10:59:41 let me put it this way: I can send the 20 patches per year in 10min with git, after I learned and practiced for 6h. With svn I probably would need 30min Sep 07 10:59:49 blindcoder: there is an excellent book published freely also online too Sep 07 11:00:06 http://progit.org/book/ Sep 07 11:00:29 DocScrutinizer: git has numerous advantages over svn. I used cvs and svn but switched to git. Sep 07 11:00:31 ok, QED Sep 07 11:00:32 khiraly_bk: there's also excellent books with 500 pages on svn. but still, all I need it "how can I get the diff from my fs to the repository" Sep 07 11:01:10 and trying to get this information on the mailinglist over the timeframe of 1 week is frustrating Sep 07 11:01:25 blindcoder: why didn't you use git diff then? Because everybody'd laugh at you, technically it'd be the same nonsense as svn diff. Sep 07 11:01:44 blindcoder: you should have asked here on irc. Sep 07 11:02:03 PaulFertser: because the first answer was that git send-email HEAD^..HEAD Sep 07 11:02:09 PaulFertser: I did a few times :P Sep 07 11:02:20 and today I got an naswer \o/ Sep 07 11:02:50 blindcoder: man, you could have read man page, it takes 5 min. Sep 07 11:03:08 lol Sep 07 11:03:31 blindcoder: i was away over the weekend... Sep 07 11:04:35 man git is 750 lines which includes everything bu at a quick'n'dirty starting point Sep 07 11:04:42 it links to a 'tutorial.html' without a path Sep 07 11:05:03 blindcoder: power tools take time to master, that's life Sep 07 11:05:14 QED Sep 07 11:05:14 just "look at this tutorial[1]" Sep 07 11:05:24 and in the bottom "Fotonote 1: tutorial.html" Sep 07 11:05:32 fscking awesome, really Sep 07 11:05:35 blindcoder: I sended you a linkto a *book*. Which should be suffice for the beginners Sep 07 11:06:10 blindcoder: full ack Sep 07 11:06:37 khiraly_bk: currently waiting for the page to load Sep 07 11:09:34 blindcoder: did "git commit dir" work? your favorite editor opend and you entered a commit message? Sep 07 11:11:17 Heinervdm: yes Sep 07 11:12:07 hmm, then there should be a patch to send... Sep 07 11:13:32 it also[Bblindcoder@fortuna:~/SHR/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes$ git log brickshooter Sep 07 11:13:35 commit 1f6b600b57a7046e508b58f5648daa495ab29dde Sep 07 11:13:39 git also shows me the commit Sep 07 11:13:58 author me, date half an hour ago Sep 07 11:14:04 ah you commited to brickshooter branch Sep 07 11:14:18 err... I committed the brickshooter directory, no? Sep 07 11:14:25 at least, that's what I wanted to do Sep 07 11:14:46 hmm Sep 07 11:15:47 brickshooteris a directory with 3 files, a .bb, a .desktop and a .patch Sep 07 11:16:02 I can git add brickshooter in the recipes dir, then git comit brickshooter in the recipes dir Sep 07 11:16:15 sorry for typos, connection is very slow here atm :/ Sep 07 11:16:58 u c, git greatly simplifies things especially for small tasks (like single apps) ;-P Sep 07 11:17:35 not that svn is so much better wrt that Sep 07 11:20:45 Guys, is glowfish X500 connector mini-usb compatible? Sep 07 11:39:45 max_posedon1 ? Sep 07 11:40:44 PaulFertser: ?? Sep 07 11:41:09 DocScrutinizer: it looks weird Sep 07 11:41:24 X500 == device? Sep 07 11:41:37 DocScrutinizer: yes Sep 07 11:41:53 glofiish X500 Sep 07 11:42:05 no idea Sep 07 11:42:16 heh Sep 07 11:43:28 *I* wonder if N900 has host mode Sep 07 11:46:20 it's incredible how Nokia fails to list all properties of their devices. MMS, 3D gmeter, usbhost? (they failed to mention that for N810 as well) Sep 07 11:47:01 I think they do it ~on purpose - just to make it hard to compare the devices... Sep 07 11:52:37 Ainulindale, yes Sep 07 11:55:40 max_posedon1: I have some issues with my cross-toolchain, I was hoping you could help me :-) Sep 07 11:55:52 max_posedon1: but I'm recompiling it properly so I'll bug you when I'm done with it Sep 07 11:55:57 I can try Sep 07 11:56:31 max_posedon1: apparently I didn't have binutils properly installed Sep 07 11:56:43 max_posedon1: and what was bugging me was timezonedata trying to run zic to install files Sep 07 11:56:50 and thus not being able to run it properly Sep 07 11:56:57 as it was arm stuff Sep 07 11:57:35 Ainulindale: when will you start addressing SHR users' concerns? :( Sep 07 11:57:41 Well Sep 07 11:57:52 When I'll have time to, and sadly it's not nearly now Sep 07 11:57:56 (h:1 release in a week) Sep 07 11:58:05 which concerns are you talking about though? Sep 07 11:59:15 PaulFertser? Sep 07 11:59:18 Ainulindale: you were asked repeatedely to use a sane shell by default, no matter if it's not truncated busybox or bash. And it really affects usability. Also the x.org driver is still not packaged and used by default despite it's stable for more than half a year. Sep 07 11:59:36 PaulFertser: I never heard anything about shell Sep 07 11:59:56 Ainulindale: probably you have DocScrutinizer in /ignore list? ;) Sep 07 11:59:56 And for the X.org driver I didn't even know it was stable Sep 07 12:00:20 PaulFertser: Did he ask anything to me? Did he create a ticket? Does he represent the whole SHR user base? Sep 07 12:00:25 Ainulindale: it should have been packaged in march even if unstable. Sep 07 12:01:02 Ainulindale: what is the problem with using less restricted busybox config by default? It was spoken about by many users repeatedly. Sep 07 12:01:10 PaulFertser: Well as you may have seen, there are other developers than me, I can't be everywhere, I'm trying to cope up with my work, and personal responsabilities Sep 07 12:01:26 PaulFertser: There's no problem with that IMHO it's just a matter of doing it Sep 07 12:01:36 Ainulindale: when i ask dos1 he says he can't do it, when i ask mrmoku, he's on vacation or slow etc etc. Sep 07 12:01:53 PaulFertser: well then you didn't ask before two weeks ago :-) Sep 07 12:02:02 Ainulindale: i know you have your new cool work... Sep 07 12:02:15 It's not that it's cool or anything, it's time consuming, that's the point Sep 07 12:02:16 Ainulindale: i was asking mrmoku for x.org driver for more than half a year. Sep 07 12:02:37 PaulFertser: Why don't you try to package it? Sep 07 12:03:29 Ainulindale: because i wasn't SHR user until recently and even now i'm focused on low-level gta01 stuff. I too can't be everywhere and do everything, especially given how lazy i am :( Sep 07 12:03:54 PaulFertser: well here's my point as well :-) Sep 07 12:04:01 These days I've been outdated and busy elsewhere Sep 07 12:04:12 Mostly because I received my taxes and have to figure out a way to survive with -20 € a month :-) Sep 07 12:04:21 PaulFertser: do like me, build yourself the shr images :) Sep 07 12:04:21 Ainulindale: but you have some leader skills so you might want to at least try to motivate others to fix things. Sep 07 12:04:35 PaulFertser: Yep it's just a matter of asking, I wasn't aware Sep 07 12:04:46 If people are dumb enough not to create a ticket and raise attention to that ticket, I can't do a thing Sep 07 12:04:59 (Not meaning you're dumb or anything) Sep 07 12:05:11 rtp: in fact i first built shr image before F9C in May and never used it. I was trying to help SHR folks to solve some build problems (and probably did it to some extent). Sep 07 12:05:42 PaulFertser: although I can't understand why noone packaged the driver already Sep 07 12:05:43 Ainulindale: busybox vs bash is a matter of "taste". you can't manage to make everyone happy imho Sep 07 12:05:51 Ainulindale: the problem is that SHR currently lacks OE-experienced active devs. Sep 07 12:05:58 PaulFertser: wrong Sep 07 12:06:01 PaulFertser: asking for /ignore as well? Are you representing anybody? ;-) Sep 07 12:06:05 PaulFertser: we have nytowl, the FSO team, mrmoku & me Sep 07 12:06:18 The latter is a lazy ass busy elsewhere Sep 07 12:06:27 The one before a lazy prolific ass in holidays :-) Sep 07 12:06:38 rtp: not taste, it's a matter of nonsense: why have very limited busybox install by default? Why not at least use sane config? Sep 07 12:06:42 DocScrutinizer: oh Sep 07 12:07:02 DocScrutinizer: it's just because you say how you hate busybox more often than anybody. Sep 07 12:07:17 PaulFertser: the "strange" config of busybox is a different problem. iirc the config comes from oe directly Sep 07 12:07:50 rtp: i know, it's exactly the reason. Sep 07 12:07:53 PaulFertser: you know how I managed to get there (ignore). When it starts about lazyness to be an excuse, you're close Sep 07 12:11:16 PaulFertser: next steps, insult, spreading lies about you, /ignore paul. I'm not talking about how *I* manage things Sep 07 12:42:37 max_posedon1: hmpf, same issue again Sep 07 12:43:03 max_posedon1: http://pastebin.com/m17ea6aa3 Sep 07 12:43:09 max_posedon1: if you see someting wrong here... Sep 07 12:43:13 I'd be glad to know Sep 07 12:55:47 max_posedon1: seems I needed proper env setup for cross-emerge Sep 07 12:55:54 It went through setting CHOST, CTARGET & CBUILD Sep 07 13:17:31 USE crossdev-wrappers Sep 07 13:19:56 oh... Sep 07 13:20:45 MARCH_TUNE is good Sep 07 13:21:24 Ainulindale, add smth there Sep 07 13:23:06 also LDFLAGS brings bugs now Sep 07 13:24:50 CFLAGS also should be simplier, or you will see problems Sep 07 13:25:09 well it seems here it worked properly Sep 07 13:25:18 max_posedon1: although I'm not sure about the behavior if I cross emerge glib Sep 07 13:25:25 (its hard explain from neo, touch me at evening) Sep 07 13:25:43 BUT mtune really must Sep 07 13:26:17 in other case you wont be able catch using wrong compiler Sep 07 13:42:29 Heinervdm: one more question: why are all my changes deleted when I run 'make update'? Sep 07 13:42:57 blindcoder: because it resetst the git dir Sep 07 13:43:27 so how can I keep my changes? Sep 07 13:43:42 nothing serious lost, but annoying Sep 07 13:44:34 i'm putting my own recieps in a different dir and added it in local.conf Sep 07 13:44:58 BBFILES += "${TOPDIR}/mypackages/*/*.bb" Sep 07 13:45:14 ah, okay. guess I'll do that, too Sep 07 13:45:42 for commiting and so you have to move them to the openembedded dir, of course Sep 07 13:46:25 sure Sep 07 13:46:59 but then the whole point of 'git commit' is moot and I can just git diff > file and use mutt :) Sep 07 13:50:10 so the last two times I upgraded shr-u (about 2 weeks ago, and the night before last) I lost GSM afterwards, and had to do an opkg install --force-reinstall fsoabyss in order to get things working again... Sep 07 13:50:16 is that a known problem? Sep 07 14:05:34 Ainulindale: develop instead of browsing facebook! :D Sep 07 14:06:07 I'm doing so Sep 07 14:10:47 Ainulindale: http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/project/SHR/list/ Sep 07 14:10:58 Ainulindale: there are few patches left to commit ;x Sep 07 14:12:04 blindcoder: heh git still is a great way to avoid using rsync, and diff ;-) Sep 07 14:12:50 dos1: Did you apply the russian translation? Sep 07 14:14:15 DocScrutinizer: rsync is how I download new version of brickshooter to neo :) Sep 07 14:14:24 DocScrutinizer: 2MB files over a 20kB line is no fun Sep 07 14:17:13 Ainulindale: i applied everything not OE related Sep 07 14:17:25 (me ands soltys) Sep 07 14:17:25 DocScrutinizer: back in the day(TM) before version control, I had just two directories for development: rock-linux-orig and rock-linux-blindy Sep 07 14:17:29 s/ands/and/ Sep 07 14:17:30 dos1 meant: (me and soltys) Sep 07 14:17:41 DocScrutinizer: for changes I'd just diff the two and send the patchfile to clifford :P Sep 07 14:18:06 Ainulindale: but please don't commit this one: http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/89/ Sep 07 14:18:13 I read the comments Sep 07 14:18:19 DocScrutinizer: it was so nice and easy :P Sep 07 14:18:20 I won't, the patch is wrong Sep 07 14:18:30 dos1: couldn't you accept the patches then? Sep 07 14:18:37 I thought I gave you the rights to Sep 07 14:18:49 Ainulindale: you didn't informed me :x Sep 07 14:18:57 checking Sep 07 14:18:59 Errr I thought, I'm not sure Sep 07 14:19:20 Ainulindale: no, i can't accept patches Sep 07 14:19:30 Ok I'll fix that now Sep 07 14:19:31 Ainulindale: at least i don't see it in UI Sep 07 14:19:56 dos1: you should be able to now Sep 07 14:20:10 Please check Sep 07 14:21:51 Ainulindale: ok, i can Sep 07 14:21:53 Ainulindale: thanks :) Sep 07 14:22:09 You're welcome Sep 07 14:34:44 Ainulindale: Is there a problem with the trac site? I try to log in and I just get errors about the page not redirecting properly. Sep 07 14:35:23 It's a known trac bug Sep 07 14:35:39 ahh Sep 07 14:35:47 is there away around it? Sep 07 14:37:01 packagekit 0.5.2 released Sep 07 14:37:04 with my patch ;) Sep 07 14:38:55 Toaster`: recreate an account sadly Sep 07 14:39:04 I'll delete your current one Sep 07 14:39:07 ahh, ok Sep 07 14:39:29 Done Sep 07 14:40:26 Can't understand why pkg-config --libs glib-2.0 outputs the -L flag but not the -l Sep 07 14:40:35 Success! Thanks Ainulindale Sep 07 14:40:38 You're welcome Sep 07 14:41:03 Ainulindale: -L/opt/gnome2/lib -lglib-2.0 Sep 07 14:41:10 Ainulindale: that's my output from that command Sep 07 14:41:18 blindcoder: yep and here in my crossdev env Sep 07 14:41:22 I have -L/path only Sep 07 14:48:16 dos1: should i send reciepe for midori 0.1.8? Sep 07 14:48:56 Heinervdm: send ;) Sep 07 14:49:07 bump prefered version too? Sep 07 14:49:59 Heinervdm: Does your recipe have patches for getting rid of the "You are running as a root user" warning? Sep 07 14:50:27 yeah, that wastes valuable pixels :P Sep 07 14:50:29 Toaster`: that's droped somewhere after 0.1.2 Sep 07 14:50:35 ahh, awesome Sep 07 14:51:28 dos1: Any word if a prelim version of eve will be added to the feeds? I had though I'd seen talk of a recipe for it on the mailing list a little while back Sep 07 14:52:38 Toaster`: i tried to build it over night Sep 07 14:52:41 it failed Sep 07 14:52:52 ahh, damn Sep 07 14:53:38 dos1: where does it fail? Sep 07 14:53:51 dos1: for me it builds Sep 07 14:53:52 Heinervdm: +PREFERRED_VERSION_db ?= "4.3.29"file://ua-iphone.patch;patch=1 Sep 07 14:54:02 Heinervdm: is it really what you mean? Sep 07 14:54:03 :P Sep 07 14:54:14 hmm Sep 07 14:54:26 dos1: pico gone wild Sep 07 14:55:02 dos1: will you fix it? Sep 07 14:56:21 Heinervdm: how? :P Sep 07 14:56:29 Heinervdm: i don't have commit access to OE Sep 07 14:56:50 dos1: ok :) Sep 07 14:57:04 what does patch=1 do? auto-apply patch? Sep 07 14:57:33 blindcoder: 1 is the value for -p parameter Sep 07 14:58:21 Heinervdm: and if patch=x is not added it will not be applied? Sep 07 14:58:34 blindcoder: yes Sep 07 14:58:38 nice Sep 07 14:58:45 * blindcoder heads over to his brickshooter .bb file :) Sep 07 15:01:01 one less thing to do manually Sep 07 15:02:30 dos1: can you reject the wrong midori patch in patchwork? Sep 07 15:02:33 Heinervdm: ok Sep 07 15:02:49 Heinervdm: done Sep 07 15:05:11 max_posedon: I can't understand why pkg-config strips off -lglib-2.0 (for instance) Sep 07 15:08:48 hi all , has anyone experience with blown battery in gta01 ? Sep 07 15:17:48 err... blown? as in 'blown up'? Sep 07 15:22:47 i had my old gta01 laying around for 2 weeks, and i openend it to change the battery, but this battery is blown ( not exploded ) up Sep 07 15:23:48 the battery is now round about 30% thicker ... (:-(( Sep 07 15:26:38 pwgen, enquire on #openmoko -- I think someone there noted this problem some months back... Sep 07 15:29:13 hey hey!! wifi works! Sep 07 15:30:58 pwgen: like on every arbitrary electric device, you're supposed to remove bat for extended periods on non-usage Sep 07 15:32:40 pwgen: particularly on 01 it's easy you deplete bat even when device is off supposedly. And LiIon batteries really do not respond well to being depleted completely for any extended period Sep 07 15:33:51 : i think/thought overcharging can blow a Li-ion battery , not deep chargeing .. Sep 07 15:34:23 actually deep discharge is worse than a slight/mild overcharging Sep 07 15:34:34 .. now i see .. Sep 07 15:38:24 especially on overcharge when protective circuitry in bat cuts charging, the cell will "recover" automatically by simple self-discharge. Obviously this isn't applicable for deep discharge even when protective circuit breaks discharging Sep 07 15:44:42 pwgen: are you comfortable with soldering 0402 parts? Sep 07 15:45:44 pwgen: i'd really suggest to avoid using "inflated" battery. Sep 07 15:45:49 PaulFertser: is the Thermistor in bat an 0402? Sep 07 15:46:10 pwgen: either you change one 0402 R or i'll soon cook a patch that'll allow to charge nokia's batteries at 200mA. Sep 07 15:46:35 DocScrutinizer: no, i guess it's better to change one R on the board itself to be fully compatible with nokia's batteries. Sep 07 15:46:36 dos1: using midori, were you able to log into gmail? Sep 07 15:46:50 Toaster`: i wasn't using midori Sep 07 15:46:53 always links Sep 07 15:46:58 heh Sep 07 15:47:00 even on om2007.2 ;) Sep 07 15:47:02 ooh, I see. yes, also a good idea Sep 07 15:47:11 and with links i always could :D Sep 07 15:47:37 losing gta01 bat compatibility, but trading it for a whole world of cheap nokia spare Sep 07 15:47:38 : i removed this ballon .. and unsoldered the "electronic " maybe i will find som Li-ion cell and replace it .. Sep 07 15:47:44 ok. I'll give it a shot Sep 07 15:48:33 pwgen: cells of nokia BL-6C should fit nicely Sep 07 15:48:41 pwgen: take extreme care dealing with batteries, not recommended in general. Sep 07 15:48:49 mwester: Hey :D Sep 07 15:48:53 but is there a solution to prevent my spare battery to get the same destiny ? Sep 07 15:49:03 pwgen: take out when not used Sep 07 15:49:30 pwgen: and ask mickeyl to finally fix powering off the modem on gta01 ;) Sep 07 15:49:40 *G* Sep 07 15:50:31 PaulFertser: you always can do hard shutdown, which will never power down modem Sep 07 15:50:33 mwester: btw, i've finally got a gta01 and i'm going to actively support it, yesterday i was measuring suspend current and already found (with a little help from my friends) a bug :) So gta01 users are not left in vain. Sep 07 15:50:52 DocScrutinizer: sure, but the probability is lower when fso-abyss does the right thing. Sep 07 15:51:06 sure Sep 07 15:51:10 bbl Sep 07 15:51:36 Also the bug prevents restarting frameworkd at all on gta01. Sep 07 15:52:52 can you check whether http://pastebin.ca/1557284 does the trick? Sep 07 15:52:54 pwgen: so if you're brave you can take BL5C cells and exchange that. Or take a thermistor from gta01 and use it in nokia battery. Or just use some 75k resistor instead of 10k and that way you'll get full compatibility with nokia batteries but only partial (200mA max charging current) with gta01. Sep 07 15:54:04 mickeyl: a bit later yes. Thanks :) Sep 07 15:54:15 Or probably rtp will check. Sep 07 15:54:43 no hurry Sep 07 15:54:49 it's been broken for so long now ;) Sep 07 15:55:21 thx i will take a look. but i wanted to use this device in an unsupervised enviroment, where power can completly fail . so this is not a good idea .. Sep 07 15:56:13 hi mickeyl Sep 07 15:56:23 hi pwgen Sep 07 15:56:41 pwgen: how's life? any progress towards upstart? ;) Sep 07 15:58:39 now i have a idea how tho access the upstart-dbus endpoint, but did not tried it out. ( i have the usual problems getting fso/shr to compile ...) Sep 07 16:00:28 really? both org.oe.dev and shr/import seem to compile fine for me these days Sep 07 16:01:09 mickeyl: libfsobasic doesn't compile for me in shr/import Sep 07 16:01:25 how does it bail out? Sep 07 16:01:39 unfortunately the org.oe.dev merger didn't happen Sep 07 16:01:39 do_configure fails Sep 07 16:01:54 pastebin? Sep 07 16:02:22 mickeyl: have to build first Sep 07 16:03:24 dos1: just tried eve r41151 and it builds fine Sep 07 16:04:22 dos1: oh, i've seen, the webkit-efl reciepe is an old one... Sep 07 16:05:44 atm shr-import fails on pax-utils because of a wrong src_uri. Sep 07 16:07:25 mickeyl: http://shr.pastebin.com/m35bf525a Sep 07 16:08:33 well Sep 07 16:08:37 i wouldn't call that bailing out Sep 07 16:08:47 misc-vapi needs to be built beforehand Sep 07 16:11:12 mickeyl: libfsobasiscs depends on misc-vapi, so why isn't it build before? Sep 07 16:11:56 this i don't know Sep 07 16:12:02 hmm Sep 07 16:12:19 are you including fso-autorev.inc? Sep 07 16:12:53 mickeyl: don't know using standard shr enviroment Sep 07 16:15:39 no, it does not include fso-autorev.inc, but shr-autorev-unstable.inc contains nearly the same, expect for SRCREV_pn-vala-dbus-binding-tool-native = "6071da6ad645e1200eb2aee88d254ada348d361b" Sep 07 16:17:15 might want to check the diff between the recipes and classes in org.oe.dev and shr/import Sep 07 16:17:34 especially the vala and freesmartphone/* ones Sep 07 16:19:13 dos1: wsod is happening for me on gta01 sometimes, especially after it spends some considerable time in suspend. Sep 07 16:21:03 there are a lot of differences... Sep 07 16:29:16 Heinervdm: trying to build eve with new webkit now Sep 07 16:29:21 Heinervdm: (and midori too) Sep 07 16:29:36 dos1: ok :) Sep 07 16:30:47 also try arora, but it's Qt based Sep 07 16:31:26 dos1: ping Sep 07 16:31:34 khiraly1: pong Sep 07 16:31:43 will in future shr release this automatic ringtone disabled? Sep 07 16:31:45 tmzt: if you'll provide recipe - why not? :P Sep 07 16:31:46 in rules.yaml file Sep 07 16:31:57 TAsn: ping Sep 07 16:32:12 I dont want to change anything (ie. dont want to require any changes) in rules.yaml. I want to use the stock one Sep 07 16:32:23 khiraly1: well, i think we planned to move that sort of things to ologicd Sep 07 16:32:31 but dunno in what shape is ologicd at the moment Sep 07 16:32:54 for oe? I don't have one but I like it better than midori at least on desktop Sep 07 16:33:12 and midori was quite slow on arm the last time I tried it Sep 07 16:34:43 but if you implement PlaySound request in shr telephony app, then this rule can be removed. (thats the first step in the right direction I think) Sep 07 16:35:12 the whole audio layer is somewhat irritating Sep 07 16:35:39 I have a significant delay on incoming call. The audio starts abuot 1.5sec after the vibration Sep 07 16:35:40 the reason why the dialer is responsible for the ringtone is solely a performance one Sep 07 16:36:12 I'll try with the stock shr apps too Sep 07 16:36:13 a sec Sep 07 16:36:23 with more and more parts moving to C^wVala, this problem will vanish Sep 07 16:36:44 what i DO like, is how fast the screen dimming is Sep 07 16:36:55 when I touch the screen I have backlight immediatly Sep 07 16:37:01 before it was about 1-2sec Sep 07 16:37:10 (ie. on om2009) Sep 07 16:41:10 Weird, gentoo lacks ebuild for miredo :-O Sep 07 16:41:37 Heinervdm: Sep 07 16:41:42 Initialized empty Git repository in /home/shr/shr-unstable/downloads/git/gitorious.org.webkit-efl.webkit-efl.git/.git/ Sep 07 16:41:43 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly Sep 07 16:41:45 fatal: early EOF Sep 07 16:41:46 fatal: index-pack failed Sep 07 16:41:48 :( Sep 07 16:42:12 dos1: no frameworkd nor ophonekitd running, reason : no socket in /var/run/dbus Sep 07 16:42:12 heh Sep 07 16:42:33 tag8tag: thanks for reporting! Sep 07 16:42:41 oh dos1: without ophonekitd running shr settings do not display the battery state Sep 07 16:42:43 probably other images have that too... so not syncing then Sep 07 16:42:50 khiraly1: wtf? Sep 07 16:42:56 khiraly1: it's using plain FSO in battery module Sep 07 16:42:57 it states: for battery display you need ophonekitd running *or* fso Sep 07 16:43:05 dos1: ok, I'll retry Sep 07 16:43:18 maybe yesterday frameworkd was in half crashy state Sep 07 16:43:26 dos1: lite img may have the same issue ? Sep 07 16:43:36 tag8tag: probably, test if you want ;D Sep 07 16:43:50 'k :p Sep 07 16:43:56 khiraly1: it's only using ophonekitd in GSM and Power modules Sep 07 16:44:05 Power settings: Sep 07 16:44:14 khiraly1: power. that's not battery ;P Sep 07 16:44:14 Coulnd't connect to FSO or ophonekitd Sep 07 16:44:24 but fso is running Sep 07 16:44:25 khiraly1: power is auto-dimming and auto-suspending Sep 07 16:44:33 and it's relying on ophonekitd usage interface Sep 07 16:44:54 aham. That maybe somehow related to my other problem: the phone does not suspend by itself Sep 07 16:45:02 I always need to suspend it manually Sep 07 16:45:17 yup Sep 07 16:45:23 ophonekitd is suspending Sep 07 16:45:31 in this one i still don't know why ;P Sep 07 16:45:47 (btw, where can I set, that power button suspends the phone immediatly and do not bring up enlightenment menu?) Sep 07 16:45:56 I tend to click by accident to the shutdown icon Sep 07 16:46:01 it is really counterproductive Sep 07 16:46:03 khiraly1: immediately - oeventsd Sep 07 16:46:10 khiraly1: to not bring syscon - illume wrench Sep 07 16:46:51 khiraly1: btw. how do you do that? O_o Sep 07 16:47:02 i never accidentaly clicked shutdown button ;P Sep 07 16:47:16