**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 12 02:59:56 2009 Sep 12 08:10:52 hi Sep 12 08:11:41 what can i expect from the new shr-u image compared to one from july? Sep 12 08:13:50 BluesLee: opkg-cl is is opkg again ;) Sep 12 08:15:00 It's the same as a 8.8. Version with opkg upgrade Sep 12 08:40:36 Someone knows how to solve this error?: shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/include/python2.6/pyport.h:685:2: error: #error "LONG_BIT definition appears wrong for platform (bad gcc/glibc config?)." Sep 12 08:49:04 Ok it seem's that this is because i'm compiling for 32Bit on 64Bit... Sep 12 08:53:35 DocScrutinizer: can you reproduce the problem by short-circuiting VBUS? ;-) Sep 12 09:01:11 DocScrutinizer: isn't the battery voltage more like 4.0V than 3.6V? Sep 12 09:22:32 DocScrutinizer: could you prepare a video that shows how the can can be opened safely? ;-) Sep 12 09:31:19 DocScrutinizer: also, will something break if I operate the device with some can opened? Sep 12 09:35:36 Heinervdm, gitorious is strange Sep 12 09:35:44 manually cloning webkit-efl works fine Sep 12 09:35:55 if bitbake tries to clone it... it fails Sep 12 09:35:57 but not with bitbake Sep 12 09:36:12 bitbake uses git read-tree after cloning Sep 12 09:36:18 and I really don't understand why :( Sep 12 09:36:20 to check sth Sep 12 09:37:26 I get 'remote hang up unexpectedly' ... which is git-daemons way to tell you it does not like what you want Sep 12 09:40:43 i normaly get a git read-tree error Sep 12 09:42:06 Heinervdm, with AUTOREV or with the tag? Sep 12 09:42:17 with AUTOREV Sep 12 09:43:09 http://shr.pastebin.com/m2e12fa38 Sep 12 09:44:56 Eror: http://shr.pastebin.com/m6c68a76 Sep 12 09:47:20 Heinervdm, I guess that is because you already have a checkout in downloads/git from prior successfull attempts Sep 12 09:48:04 mrmoku: possible Sep 12 09:48:53 The webkit-efl dev's are having problems with that git server too Sep 12 09:49:40 The strange thing is, that it works with the tag= Sep 12 09:55:18 lindi-_: lindi- (shorting) not yet tried, but effect depends on particular current, so shorting might be different. (bat V) depends on charge. You could also do this calculation with 3.0V, system should still operate at that voltage. (video) I don't think so. The details are to be seen with macro only, and I have no such equipment. And would need a cameraman. (break) NOOOO, for sure not :-D Sep 12 10:08:50 lindi-: take care of ESD nevertheless Sep 12 10:23:43 lindi-: (opening can) scrutinize carefully the lid, to understand where the latches end and to see the small hole in mid of each latch. Then use a pinpoint small knife to pry away and up the latches. Start at "round" corner. Don't be afraid to bend lid and/or latches slightly, you can easily correct this once you have the lid off Sep 12 10:23:51 DocScrutinizer-8: but voltage_now (?) is here always over 4.0 V Sep 12 10:24:16 that's rather strange Sep 12 10:26:33 mrmoku: ping Sep 12 10:30:18 lindi-: where have you found formula to calculate Rset for a particular output current of AAT1275? Sep 12 10:30:33 DocScrutinizer-8: the specs only mentioned two values Sep 12 10:30:55 16k8 for 300(!)mA Sep 12 10:31:16 aiui example Sep 12 10:31:52 didn't find the other value. just diagram to *guess* :-/ Sep 12 10:33:53 DocScrutinizer-8: page 4, "Current Limit" Sep 12 10:33:54 Heinervdm, interesting... if I move my manual checkout to the correct place in downloads all works fine Sep 12 10:37:41 mrmoku: compile is working too? Sep 12 10:38:52 lindi-: could you quote please? P.4 here is "Electric characteristics" and "ILIMIT Input Switch Current Limit 2.5 A", "ILIM Current Limit 500 625 mA" Sep 12 10:39:41 lindi-: or give pointer to the ds you got Sep 12 10:40:16 PaulFertser: ping Sep 12 10:43:06 DocScrutinizer-8: the pdf does not really support copy&paste well Sep 12 10:43:44 lindi-: what I got is a diagram on p.8 " Sep 12 10:43:45 ILIM Current Limit RSET = 16.9k? 500 625 mA Sep 12 10:43:45 Typical Characteristics Sep 12 10:43:47 Current Limit vs. RSET Sep 12 10:43:48 " Sep 12 10:43:52 ILIM(MIN) Minimum Current Limit RSET = 40k? 100 mA Sep 12 10:45:07 lindi-: pfff, that's clearly missing here (the RSET= note) Sep 12 10:46:23 DocScrutinizer: "Microsoft Word - DCR_Form_1275.doc" "Created: Sun Feb 1 18:46:26 2009" "Modified: Fri Mar 13 13:04:11 2009" Sep 12 10:46:29 DocScrutinizer: says pdf meta info Sep 12 10:47:14 lindi-: won't help me find that document anywhere Sep 12 10:48:02 'a4fa79da585e3ebd7c4dc0293c749d47 AAT1275.pdf' Sep 12 10:49:25 lindi-: title:aat1275.qxd; created:2007-1-24; author:robertbihlmayer Sep 12 10:49:32 DocScrutinizer: same author Sep 12 10:49:36 DocScrutinizer: newer version Sep 12 10:49:45 still, how would that help me find the document you got?? Sep 12 10:50:12 DocScrutinizer: try www.analogictech.com/products/digitalfiles/AAT1275.pdf Sep 12 10:52:31 lindi-: thanks Sep 12 10:55:08 TAsn: hey Sep 12 10:56:05 TAsn: i don't know much about sqlite bindings, so thanks for code snippet, i'll commit it :) Sep 12 10:58:18 lindi-: aah, ok. I got that one: "" Sep 12 10:58:19 Setting the Load Switch Current Limit Sep 12 10:58:21 In most applications, the variation in ILIM must be Sep 12 10:58:22 taken into account when determining RSET. The ILIM Sep 12 10:58:24 variation is due to processing variations from part Sep 12 10:58:25 to part, as well as variations in the voltages at Sep 12 10:58:27 OUT1 and OUT2, plus the operating temperature. Sep 12 10:58:28 The typical RSET value for a 300mA load is in the Sep 12 10:58:30 range of 20 to 22kΩ. Sep 12 10:58:31 "" Sep 12 10:59:51 lindi-: you got table 1 on p.12 Sep 12 11:00:25 dos1|neo: i have a question regarding elementary, how can words that doesn't fit to the screen be wrapped to multiple lines? :/ anchorview has a word-wrap, but if there is a really long word, it doesn't get wrapped and destroys the layout -_- Sep 12 11:01:05 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r37f6f0a85f60 10/geekogotchi_ui_efl.py: ui-efl: pack ui in more boxes, display buttons horizontal Sep 12 11:01:07 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r31f596853522 10/geekogotchi_server: server: don't send Birthday signal before borning Sep 12 11:01:08 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r421317b731bb 10/geekogotchi_client: client: install signal handler only when ui provides mainloop Sep 12 11:01:09 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r1f63bf65bf03 10/geekogotchi_server: server: add Delete method to pet Sep 12 11:01:10 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * rdc2179a8e30e 10/geekogotchi_server: server: fine-tune HHHStep, don't calculate on feeding/heeling/playing Sep 12 11:01:30 wtf? geekogotchi? Sep 12 11:02:28 DocScrutinizer: ok so we should have 590 mA output limit Sep 12 11:02:32 lindi-: taking into account those "processing variations from part to part" a resistance of 14k for Rset seems reasonable to guarantee an minimum Imax of 500mA Sep 12 11:02:59 agg1n: dunno, maybe ask raster ;x Sep 12 11:03:10 (590mA) that's what Paul said yesterday Sep 12 11:03:32 and what's in this table Sep 12 11:04:22 DocScrutinizer: ok so it's perfectly ok for the components to heat so much? Sep 12 11:05:56 dos1|neo, sure thing. Sep 12 11:06:05 dos1|neo, man, you like working on weird stuff, lol. Sep 12 11:06:07 for AAT yes. For choke we have to check Sep 12 11:06:11 geekogotchi :| Sep 12 11:06:21 raster: are you there? Sep 12 11:06:50 TAsn: hehe ;D Sep 12 11:06:56 TAsn: hehe, ack Sep 12 11:07:33 TAsn: little funny stuff to relax between opimd and other serious SHR stuff ;) Sep 12 11:07:41 hehe Sep 12 11:07:47 I wish I could relax a bit :( Sep 12 11:07:53 I have a test on monday Sep 12 11:07:56 DocScrutinizer: what's choke? Sep 12 11:07:58 which I'm not prepared to Sep 12 11:08:03 TAsn: poor baby :-p Sep 12 11:08:09 As if you weren't good enough to avoid learning Sep 12 11:08:13 and in general I'm busy :( Sep 12 11:08:33 :| Sep 12 11:08:36 I never thought, I'd be writing my own E-Mail app, but here I am creating mockups... Sep 12 11:08:41 It's a calculus test :| Sep 12 11:08:47 I can easily pass it Sep 12 11:08:54 though I want to get 95+ Sep 12 11:09:01 TAsn: stop whining, start studying Sep 12 11:09:04 lindi-: choke = inductor Sep 12 11:09:06 startup time 1.5 seconds: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/70903280d9f95b2e016cbeb3d5dcd0a7.png Sep 12 11:09:22 as I want the president's honor, and not the dean's honor :) Sep 12 11:09:28 (i.e, I want cash) Sep 12 11:10:02 Greedy guy :-) Sep 12 11:10:04 DocScrutinizer-8: this L4901? Sep 12 11:10:10 yup Sep 12 11:11:06 lindi-: it's all in my comment on #2310 Sep 12 11:11:14 anyhow, I'm off again. Sep 12 11:12:49 DocScrutinizer-8: ok, should it be safe to try to boot the device today? Sep 12 11:13:00 Ainulindale, :) Sep 12 11:13:02 sure Sep 12 11:13:02 ciao. Sep 12 11:14:24 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rb076ec335fb0 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (6 files): opimd: SQLite-*: add isolation_level=None when connecting to sqlite file. Thanks TAsn! Closes #477 Sep 12 11:14:55 lol. Sep 12 11:15:00 now everyone will spank me :( Sep 12 11:15:09 (when things will fail) Sep 12 11:15:17 ;D Sep 12 11:15:25 ciao. Sep 12 11:15:25 it's in opimd-tracking Sep 12 11:15:33 not in master Sep 12 11:15:41 i'l merge after testing it Sep 12 11:15:48 s/i'l/i'll/ Sep 12 11:15:48 dos1|neo meant: i'll merge after testing it Sep 12 11:16:26 TAsn: so don't worry so much about it Sep 12 11:16:52 i'll spank you for other things ;> Sep 12 11:21:44 * lindi- forgot the gsm antenna while assembling the phone... Sep 12 11:31:26 lindi-: hehe, I hope you did. Otherwise I'd feel like an idiot as I always do Sep 12 11:32:12 (forget, not feel - always ;) Sep 12 11:35:29 Heinervdm, yeah, compile completed Sep 12 11:36:46 mrmoku: can we push a recipe that needs such a workaround? Sep 12 11:38:04 Heinervdm, maybe it's enough to stuff the tarball on shrbuildhost/sources... Sep 12 11:38:08 will try that Sep 12 11:38:19 ok Sep 12 11:39:43 ~seen morphis Sep 12 11:39:44 morphis was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 6d 22h 24m 27s ago, saying: 'heyho'. Sep 12 12:16:12 Heinervdm, ok, sources are in place now Sep 12 12:16:29 mrmoku: then i will try too Sep 12 12:17:17 Heinervdm, maybe you have to remove what you have from gitorious under downloads... don't know Sep 12 12:18:02 have moved to different dir Sep 12 12:18:27 DocScrutinizer-8: voltage_now = 4053000 Sep 12 12:18:33 DocScrutinizer-8: so where did you get 3.6? Sep 12 12:19:27 lindi-: in voltage on bat_capacity <15% Sep 12 12:19:49 DocScrutinizer-8: what? Sep 12 12:20:48 lindi-: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/batlog.txt.odf Sep 12 12:21:42 lindi-: if bat vltage was same all the time, we wouldn't need or want a means to read it out, no? Sep 12 12:22:04 DocScrutinizer: ok but i've never seen it report anything below 4 Sep 12 12:22:34 so you never discharged your bat below ~60% of remaining capacity Sep 12 12:24:18 actually more like ~80% Sep 12 12:26:54 lindi-: do you use an obsolete old kernel that still has that nasty MBC-restarter-patch? Otherwise MBC starts charging on modem getting bat-capacity down to ~75% and voltage to 3V96 Sep 12 12:26:57 iirc Sep 12 12:27:07 DocScrutinizer-8: i reported kernel version there ;) Sep 12 12:27:07 for sure <4V Sep 12 12:27:34 lindi-: do you think it's up to me to check your kernel version? Sep 12 12:29:09 Heinervdm, mind me to fix PV and set it to AUTOREV meanwhile? Sep 12 12:29:43 mrmoku: wait a moment, my first try faild Sep 12 12:29:55 ok Sep 12 12:31:42 DocScrutinizer-8: yes at least my memory of battery behavior is before commit c31a0fec70c7ab1f9d0a5846abb31b80274e6914 Sep 12 12:45:08 ~seen Toaster Sep 12 12:45:08 mrmoku: i haven't seen 'toaster' Sep 12 12:46:42 mrmoku: my bb want's to download http://build.shr-project.org/sources/git_gitorious.org.webkit-efl.webkit-efl.git.tar.gz Sep 12 12:47:21 ~seen toaster` Sep 12 12:47:23 toaster` was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 1d 13h 54m 40s ago, saying: 'mrmoku|away: ping?'. Sep 12 12:54:47 DocScrutinizer, damn case sensitivity ;) Sep 12 12:55:04 ~seen Toaster` Sep 12 12:55:05 toaster` was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 1d 14h 2m 24s ago, saying: 'mrmoku|away: ping?'. Sep 12 12:55:52 hmm Sep 12 12:55:56 mrmoku: /ns info toaster` Sep 12 12:56:59 DocScrutinizer, hmm... irssi does not know /ns? Sep 12 12:57:16 mrmoku: then nickserv Sep 12 12:57:31 nop Sep 12 12:57:41 duh Sep 12 12:58:14 mrmoku: /nickserv info mrmoku Sep 12 12:58:38 14:58 -!- Irssi: Unknown command: nickserv Sep 12 12:58:50 wtf? Sep 12 12:59:07 /msg nickserv Sep 12 12:59:13 mrmoku: /msg nickserv info mrmoku Sep 12 12:59:21 :-) Sep 12 12:59:25 yes Sep 12 12:59:45 :) Sep 12 13:02:50 Heinervdm, renamed the source... does it work now? Sep 12 13:03:04 Heinervdm, hmm.. wait Sep 12 13:03:44 Heinervdm, ok, now :) Sep 12 13:16:21 mrmoku: git fetch git://gitorious.org/webkit-efl/webkit-efl.git master failed with signal 128, output: fatal: Not a git repository Sep 12 13:16:48 Heinervdm, have you removed the repo under downloads/git? Sep 12 13:16:57 mrmoku: yes Sep 12 13:17:00 hmm Sep 12 13:17:11 2 times Sep 12 13:17:52 brb Sep 12 14:06:14 Heinervdm, hopefully I'm scp'ing the correct tarball this time :P Sep 12 14:06:32 Hey mrmoku my preferred german Sep 12 14:10:56 Ainulindale, hey my busy frenchman ;) Sep 12 14:11:09 yay :-) Sep 12 14:11:17 hope you don't forget to breath with all that stuff you have to do :P Sep 12 14:11:21 Well Sep 12 14:11:23 I'm at work currently Sep 12 14:11:32 Trying to finish some doc for a project submission Sep 12 14:11:41 and I'm rereading all dbusification mails right now :) Sep 12 14:12:07 Good :-) Sep 12 14:26:56 Ainulindale, what license would we use for the api-specs? same as fso (CC-BY-SA) ? Sep 12 14:28:53 Yep sounds good to me Sep 12 14:29:05 ok, to me too Sep 12 14:37:47 * DocScrutinizer-8 wonders what point #7 "battery must be fully charged before initial use" might be worth for Sep 12 15:12:48 Heinervdm, -rw-r--r-- 1 shr shr 687224529 Sep 12 17:12 git_gitorious.org.webkit-efl.webkit-efl.git.tar.gz Sep 12 15:12:52 scp finished :P Sep 12 15:13:02 might be worth a retry Sep 12 15:13:23 * mrmoku retries on buildhost too Sep 12 15:17:47 aah, scp. Sorry lindi- or delay Sep 12 15:19:53 Heinervdm, no... did not work :( Sep 12 15:20:22 :( Sep 12 15:20:36 Heinervdm, fatal: failed to unpack tree object 0f6ab2ac9d5ba863984f0bd595ab9828e2f7bd0e Sep 12 15:20:53 mrmoku: that's the error i got too Sep 12 15:23:18 Heinervdm, question is where does it get that bogus 0f6ab2ac9d5ba863984f0bd595ab9828e2f7bd0e from? Sep 12 15:23:21 it does not exist Sep 12 15:23:36 not even in the working local checkout Sep 12 15:25:17 can one rebuild the git tree of a repository? Sep 12 15:25:50 Heinervdm, not sure what you mean? Sep 12 15:26:51 mrmoku: i think there is sth wrong with the repo, that there is a nonexistent commit in the tree Sep 12 15:28:09 Heinervdm, but why can one clone it (outside of OE) ? Sep 12 15:28:52 mrmoku: don't know Sep 12 15:29:26 lindi-: which is the file for component placement that needs update ? Sep 12 15:31:14 lindi-: hmm, strange. Seems *all* files in public web are older than the ones I got local here Sep 12 15:32:04 mrmoku: in my shr-unstable/downloads/git/gitorious.org.webkit-efl.webkit-efl.git exists a 0f6ab2ac9d5ba863984f0bd595ab9828e2f7bd0e dir Sep 12 15:34:25 Heinervdm, hmm Sep 12 15:34:57 mrmoku: and my package name is: webkit-efl-0.1+git0f6ab2ac9d5ba863984f0bd595ab9828e2f7bd0e-r0 Sep 12 15:35:47 Heinervdm, yeah have that on the buildhost too... probably the dir where bitbake wants to git-read the tree into... Sep 12 15:36:15 though on my localhost where the build went fine I have a different one Sep 12 15:36:41 webkit-efl-0.1+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r0/ is what I have Sep 12 15:37:17 that's the right hash Sep 12 15:37:31 3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472 is current HEAD Sep 12 15:38:09 and somehow bitbake thinks it should be 0f6ab2ac9d5ba863984f0bd595ab9828e2f7bd0e Sep 12 15:38:25 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc:SRCREV_pn-webkit-efl ?= "0f6ab2ac9d5ba863984f0bd595ab9828e2f7bd0e" Sep 12 15:38:30 found it Sep 12 15:38:39 hehe Sep 12 15:40:03 so somehow they rewrote the history or that one was wrong in the first place Sep 12 15:40:34 with the release of 0.1 the changed the repository to gitorious Sep 12 15:40:48 befor that they were somewhere else Sep 12 15:43:03 * mrmoku off for dinner Sep 12 15:43:08 bbl Sep 12 15:55:35 lindi-: please check if the comp-plcmnt files on ~joerg/... and downloads.om are ok now Sep 12 16:10:24 I want to disable my sim pin. When I go to settings -> phone and slide the "pin code" slider to "disabled" I get a popup where I have to enter my pin. However, no matter what I type I see nothing appearing in that popup, so I can't enter the correct pin. Sep 12 16:10:35 is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? Sep 12 16:13:18 sybren: i can enter my pin Sep 12 16:14:58 DocScrutinizer-8: kind of impossible to say without manual inspection. the pdf versions are generated from svg but do not mention the git commit id :( Sep 12 16:15:03 Heinervdm: I just updated, now I can too. It just tells me my pin is wrong :( Sep 12 16:15:34 sybren: for me it works Sep 12 16:15:53 DocScrutinizer-8: but the latest change is 'Date: Fri Sep 4 08:19:47 2009 +0300 make R1502 searchable' Sep 12 16:15:55 lindi-: well, I downloaded from lindi.iki.fi and pushed those files Sep 12 16:16:06 Heinervdm: I get "Wrong PIN!" Sep 12 16:17:12 DocScrutinizer-8: but R1502 is searchable so I guess it's the newest version Sep 12 16:17:21 DocScrutinizer-8: i'm sure people will spot more errors in the future Sep 12 16:17:27 Heinervdm: now that I removed my PIN, clicked "OK" and got "Invalid PIN" I can't seem to enter it a second time Sep 12 16:17:44 sybren: be careful! I think you also on this dialog can expire the three free tries Sep 12 16:18:19 sybren: delete the stars and enter again Sep 12 16:18:19 DocScrutinizer-8: then it should really have a "Cancel" button Sep 12 16:18:25 Heinervdm: there are no stars to delete Sep 12 16:19:24 sybren: for now make sure to have your puk at reach Sep 12 16:20:03 DocScrutinizer-8: I don't, so I'll stop ;-) Sep 12 16:20:32 DocScrutinizer-8: I also think that there is enough screen space for a warning "you have three tries" Sep 12 16:21:57 sybren: you'd have to try to make sure this warning is correct ;-P Sep 12 16:22:06 DocScrutinizer-8: good point Sep 12 16:22:18 anyway, it's strange that even when I manage to type a PIN it still doesn't accept it Sep 12 16:22:28 could it be that I have a sim that doesn't allow turning off the PIN? Sep 12 16:22:44 yes Sep 12 16:23:19 bummer, I'd hoped that the Ultra Cool SHR Hackers would be able to disable the pin auth where other phones couldn't :P Sep 12 16:25:02 sybren: easy ;-) link a script to sys5-init to enter pin via mdbus call Sep 12 16:25:37 Very good idea. Does that also prevent the PIN code popup from appearing? or would I have to kill that as well? Sep 12 16:26:10 no idea Sep 12 16:26:20 I'll just have to find out then :) Sep 12 16:26:22 never had a look into that Sep 12 16:27:23 maybe patching the according app is even easier. Or adding a yaml rule... really no idea about how that gear works Sep 12 16:27:52 me neither. For now I'll just let it rest and first provide my SIM with a good PIN next time I enable my GSM ;-) Sep 12 16:28:24 a good plan. hope you will succeed ;-) Sep 12 16:28:43 I just received a SMS so it's not completely buggered off yet Sep 12 16:28:59 woot! and a "PIN correct" message :) Sep 12 16:29:47 yes. but I bet nobody checked how calypso & SIM are handling wrong pin entries while you're already registered Sep 12 17:00:24 mrmoku: ping Sep 12 17:00:30 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * racfc141304ac 10/src/ (6 files): regen Sep 12 17:01:18 can someone tell me something about the new image, cons? i use shr-u from july, whats new? Sep 12 17:04:04 BluesLee, pong Sep 12 17:10:16 Heinervdm, buildhost built it fine :) Sep 12 17:13:23 mrmoku: then we can commit the changes and set eve to AUTOREV Sep 12 17:14:38 Heinervdm, ok, will do Sep 12 17:14:46 :) Sep 12 17:18:20 PaulFertser: you wouldn't think gta01 current_now reading has much false reading due to noise Sep 12 17:19:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc2163ff77bda 10/fsotimed/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsotimed: install dbus configuration and service activation files Sep 12 17:19:31 * DocScrutinizer-8 stares hypnotized at the red/green flickering LED of this USB wallcharger - color depends on current drawn from charger Sep 12 17:24:04 mickeyl, is there some way to have optional args in DBus APIs? Sep 12 17:24:20 probably not... Sep 12 17:24:43 mrmoku: there is. I asked same some weeks ago ;-) Sep 12 17:24:55 DocScrutinizer-8, :) tell me more :D Sep 12 17:25:32 mrmoku: no Sep 12 17:26:00 although you can always use a{sv} Sep 12 17:26:05 mrmoku: I asked if we could augment resource allocation with additional parameters to specify detail properties of a particular resource Sep 12 17:27:27 mickeyl, and pass in the name/value pairs I need... but if I want none? Sep 12 17:28:32 then leave it empty Sep 12 17:29:00 org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS is using this Sep 12 17:29:10 for the properties argument Sep 12 17:30:04 does NULL work as 'empty GHashTable' ? Sep 12 17:30:54 mickeyl: i'm trying to compile blueman (http://blueman-project.org/) But i'm getting this while configuring: include/python2.6/pyport.h:685:2: error: #error "LONG_BIT definition appears wrong for platform (bad gcc/glibc config?). Can you help me? Sep 12 17:31:11 DocScrutinizer-8: i have similar charger! ;D Sep 12 17:31:45 dos1: rather psychedelic, isn't it ;-D Sep 12 17:32:42 makes me wonder what the hell is happening in an idling linux system to result in such a random power consumption Sep 12 17:33:00 yup, it's great while battery is full, wifi is enabled and backlight is disabled Sep 12 17:33:17 yes :-DD Sep 12 17:33:44 cause when backlight is enabled then here it's almost always red Sep 12 17:34:13 always red here, also with backlight Sep 12 17:34:13 and with wifi disabled and idling system it's quite green Sep 12 17:34:30 Heinervdm, eve is in the feed :D Sep 12 17:34:32 but it's looks great with wifi enabled and for instance IRC session on it ;) Sep 12 17:34:39 eve in feed? Sep 12 17:34:41 never green here (not tested without gsm though) Sep 12 17:34:43 mrmoku: nice :) Sep 12 17:34:58 nice :D Sep 12 17:35:14 * mrmoku is installing... to see if it actually is really nice :P Sep 12 17:35:31 yellow with short red flashes Sep 12 17:36:04 more like green/yellow flicker with short red flashes Sep 12 17:37:52 "LogiLink (R)" Sep 12 17:38:30 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r42a3bb07fc45 10/geekogotchi_server: server: fix borning taking too long Sep 12 17:38:31 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * ra5796800e60c 10/geekogotchi_server: server: fine-tune MaxHHH Sep 12 17:38:31 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r4cc259e0a61b 10/geekogotchi_ui_efl.py: ui-efl: display everything in frame Sep 12 17:38:32 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r20f2edb8d3d1 10/geekogotchi_ui_efl.py: ui-efl: check, if pet wants to play before calling GoodPlay Sep 12 17:38:35 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r53334729d502 10/geekogotchi_server: server: add Play method Sep 12 17:38:41 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r6c34c12ff87a 10/geekogotchi_server: server: when user is causing death of pet, don't wait for signalizing it to next update Sep 12 17:38:41 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r285404df2abb 10/geekogotchi_server: server: send message to opimd from friendly girl from neighbourhood after pet is borned :) Sep 12 17:38:46 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * r095864e8e011 10/geekogotchi_server: server: add check_alive() in Play Sep 12 17:38:56 mrmoku: it was really nice some time ago. dunno it they pimped it or broke it after that ;) Sep 12 17:39:40 dos1, have some geekogotchi recipe to apply? :P Sep 12 17:40:02 could you help me with inventing nice english pet names to propose but nice girl from neighbourhood? :D Sep 12 17:40:19 mrmoku: not yet :x Sep 12 17:40:34 s/but/by/ Sep 12 17:41:21 dos1, our neighbours have a cat called Monti ... don't know if its english and nice though ;) Sep 12 17:43:01 Kitty Sep 12 17:43:02 http://shr.pastebin.com/d51baad1f Sep 12 17:44:07 dos1: refer lolcats ;-) Sep 12 17:44:49 mrmoku: well, /usr/share/eve/data/default.edj is rather needed :D Sep 12 17:44:59 canihavecheezburger.com Sep 12 17:45:24 Heinervdm: isn't Kitty rather cat only? :x Sep 12 17:45:50 mrmoku: something has changed on the theme, perhaps it's not included in the package Sep 12 17:46:20 DocScrutinizer-8: http://icanhascheezburger.com/ ;) Sep 12 17:46:31 Heinervdm, probably yeah Sep 12 17:46:37 or that :-) Sep 12 17:51:46 dos1, shr-today is showing me 2 missed calls... how to get rid of them? Sep 12 17:53:10 * DocScrutinizer-8 powering down gsm for sole purpose to make sure that doesn't change psychedelic LED - and yes it doesn't (would be a rather nasty surprise otherwise) Sep 12 17:54:33 DocScrutinizer-8: gta01? Sep 12 17:55:04 mrmoku: write opimd based phone suite :P Sep 12 17:55:12 duh, surprise SURPRISE. :-( periods of high power consumption largely *extended* on gta02 with gsm disabled Sep 12 17:55:37 dos1, I thought maybe phonelog would do that... phonelog is opimd based, no? Sep 12 17:55:51 TAsn, ping ;) Sep 12 17:56:08 TAsn, not that I want to interrupt your studies... Sep 12 17:56:36 mrmoku: no, that would be notifier role Sep 12 17:56:42 dos1, does shr-today conflict with notifier btw.? Sep 12 17:56:46 opimd-notifier does that Sep 12 17:57:17 so a notifier is needed in addition to shr-today? Sep 12 17:57:36 opimd based notifier Sep 12 17:57:57 it could be for instance opimd-notifier :P Sep 12 17:58:42 nah!! that's simply the settings-phone screen that eats the power :-/ Sep 12 18:00:09 settings-phone? Sep 12 18:01:06 dos1: yes Sep 12 18:02:06 dos1: extends the red flashes from 0.1 to 0.5..1 sec Sep 12 18:03:50 dos1, I re-read the dbusification thread and started to work on the API today Sep 12 18:04:07 which is the first step to get a opimd based phone suite ;) Sep 12 18:04:42 mrmoku: great news!!! Sep 12 18:04:51 DocScrutinizer-8: hmm, i'll look at it Sep 12 18:08:14 dos1: confirmed Sep 12 18:08:45 just make that "from 0.1 to 1..2sec" Sep 12 18:08:46 DocScrutinizer-8: do you have shr-settings-debug installed? (dunno if it's in package) Sep 12 18:09:06 prolly not Sep 12 18:09:19 just check if you have /usr/bin/shr-settings-debug Sep 12 18:10:12 dos1: *sigh* this stops the nice flashing ;-) Sep 12 18:10:48 so WONTFIX then ;D Sep 12 18:10:50 mrmoku, pong. Sep 12 18:10:59 nope Sep 12 18:11:32 * TAsn will now try a more aggressive pong. Sep 12 18:11:37 mrmoku, *pong* Sep 12 18:11:59 c-c-c-combo ponger! Sep 12 18:12:21 point TAsn Sep 12 18:13:00 tasn serves Sep 12 18:13:25 service tasn ... err Sep 12 18:13:44 * TAsn is trying to do a curve ball Sep 12 18:14:04 * TAsn misses big time, he's not that good of a table tennis player. Sep 12 18:15:12 time! Sep 12 18:15:49 * TAsn now figured out he has no future in sports and returns to his math studies. Sep 12 18:16:32 tasn disqualifies due to leaving playground Sep 12 18:16:59 set & game: mrmoku ;-) Sep 12 18:17:17 I'll be back next time mrmoku challenges me Sep 12 18:17:17 hopefully. Sep 12 18:17:46 what?! Sep 12 18:17:50 that's bias. Sep 12 18:18:04 mrmoku, left the arena a lot before I did. Sep 12 18:22:15 TAsn: don't mcenroe! Sep 12 18:22:42 opps that was tennis, not pingpong Sep 12 18:24:00 You can not be serious! Sep 12 18:30:50 dos1: actually it's like this: starting settings doesn't change anything. opening phone causes long (2sec) "red" bursts, closing phone stops the long red, but average is higher than before we opened phone. closing settings restores all back to normal Sep 12 18:40:04 dos1: hmmpf now charging kicked in XD Sep 12 18:40:53 TAsn, ping pong ;) Sep 12 18:41:11 TAsn, had to read some Tom Sawyer :) Sep 12 18:42:44 mrmoku, whens diablo 3 out? :P Sep 12 18:44:31 hmm... diablo 3 ? Sep 12 18:44:39 * mrmoku does not follow... Sep 12 18:44:50 the epic rpg game of all time? Sep 12 18:45:02 just bored, and have no one else to bug... Sep 12 18:45:03 F4t, for the FR... cool ;) Sep 12 18:45:32 lol, the FR has some hardware upgrades to do before it can run diablo 1.... not to mention 2 or 3... Sep 12 18:46:21 F4t, and I stopped playing computer games some years ago (apart from some occasional supertux or stuff like that) ;) Sep 12 18:46:26 so ... no idea Sep 12 18:46:33 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_produce_vodafones_first_limo_os_based_device-news-1119.php - "First of its kind device, 'a full touch phone with Linux Mobile OS'"! Sep 12 18:46:34 lol Sep 12 18:53:10 mrmoku, ? Sep 12 18:55:31 samsung WTF??? Sep 12 18:55:38 mrmoku, !!! Sep 12 18:55:38 doing "ping and run"s is illegal here! Sep 12 18:56:25 * DocScrutinizer-8 wonders how raster can let them get away with that lie o.O Sep 12 18:57:17 F4t, it seems that "linux mobile os" is a name, not a description Sep 12 18:57:21 so they are not lying Sep 12 18:57:32 they are the first to use that LiMo distro Sep 12 18:57:48 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMo_Foundation Sep 12 18:57:59 but whats that os anyway? Sep 12 18:58:31 if it's no lie then it's at least amazingly untrue XD Sep 12 19:00:40 F4t, no clue here. Sep 12 19:00:40 mrmoku, damn you. ;) Sep 12 19:00:40 I'm off again. Sep 12 19:02:39 TAsn, bad timing... I'm back now ;) Sep 12 19:04:28 mrmoku, what did you want? Sep 12 19:04:30 (earlier) Sep 12 19:04:49 TAsn, could you add clearing missed calls to phonelog? Sep 12 19:05:04 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r5584cb918d88 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Time.Alarm: declare error for SetAlarm() Sep 12 19:05:11 (after your 95+ of course :P) Sep 12 19:05:58 why? got some calls you don't want the Misses to see? Sep 12 19:07:03 shr-today shows me 2 missed calls which don't go away Sep 12 19:07:13 actually, that'll be quite annoying interface wise, but i'll talk to you about it after my 95+ :) Sep 12 19:07:13 (which there's no way I'll get btw, as the testers are extremely pedantic and I only started reading yesterday) Sep 12 19:07:28 let's hope... Sep 12 19:07:28 ciao. Sep 12 19:07:33 TAsn, good luck Sep 12 19:08:16 mrmoku: TAsn: we even need a setting for maximum of phonelog entries before auto-delete kicks in Sep 12 19:08:23 sorry TAsn, didn't know it's your work, and my meaning changed Sep 12 19:08:41 DocScrutinizer-8: there is no auto-delete Sep 12 19:08:58 DocScrutinizer-8: there is only limit in displaying Sep 12 19:09:06 dos1: that's what I'm actually talking about Sep 12 19:09:08 DocScrutinizer-8: which already is configurable Sep 12 19:11:14 dos1: I really don't care if you implement a SQL-stored procedure, or hang in a job to logrotate. But we need a way to stop useless obsolete info from eating up storage Sep 12 19:13:06 mickeyl, is the index.html in fso-specs handwritten or does it get generated in some way I don't understand? Sep 12 19:13:21 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r543b1568331e 10/fsodeviced/ (Makefile.am src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala): fsodeviced: add data to subdirs Sep 12 19:13:35 mrmoku: index.html is handwritten AFAIK Sep 12 19:13:59 mrmoku: at least i saw mickeyl commits changing it by hand, and even i changed it by hand some time ago ;) Sep 12 19:14:06 hmm... ok... will handwrite ours then too :P Sep 12 19:14:30 spaetz, hey, how's life? Sep 12 19:14:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r6d9116f813b1 10/tools/cli-framework: cli-framework: fix devrtc and add timealarm Sep 12 19:15:10 dos1, btw... did you see the french translation in patchwork? Sep 12 19:15:19 hi mrmoku . finally all travelling finished and things caalm down a bit Sep 12 19:15:21 index.html is handwritten Sep 12 19:15:25 mickeyl, ok Sep 12 19:15:54 looking forward to have more time for tthe FR again Sep 12 19:16:01 please tell me the next model is a clamshell? :) Sep 12 19:16:04 spaetz, good :) Sep 12 19:17:27 luke-jr: next model? Sep 12 19:17:41 DocScrutinizer-8: 3D7Z or whatever it was Sep 12 19:18:00 vaporware Sep 12 19:18:08 uh Sep 12 19:18:11 not in development? Sep 12 19:18:12 forget about it Sep 12 19:18:14 -.- Sep 12 19:18:32 how can it be vapourware if it had work on it this year? Sep 12 19:20:56 luke-jr: please read ML and google for it. It's been the biggest story of 2009/2 Sep 12 19:21:11 at least in OM community Sep 12 19:21:35 DocScrutinizer-8: I read some ML via Google, and it doesn't seem imaginary to me. Sep 12 19:23:55 it's been on /. even Sep 12 19:25:38 klinuxer, lol, it's ok :) I prefer to know the truth over false compliments. :) Sep 12 19:26:52 DocScrutinizer, there's no autodelete, atm opimd keeps all the entries Sep 12 19:26:52 DocScrutinizer-8, pyphonelog shows the last X calls (as set in the config file...) Sep 12 19:27:17 DocScrutinizer-8: /.'s search finds nothing Sep 12 19:27:34 it was 3D7K Sep 12 19:27:38 TAsn: so in a few months/years you need a larger uSD Sep 12 19:27:51 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07specs * ra536022d6c56 10/html/index.html: Sep 12 19:27:51 freesmartphone.org: index.html: remove double in org.freesmartphone.Device title Sep 12 19:27:51 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Sep 12 19:28:01 DocScrutinizer-8, in "~/.phonelog/phonelog.conf" change "missed_limit = 50" Sep 12 19:28:02 DocScrutinizer-8, I know Sep 12 19:28:04 Google+Slashdot finds 2 articles, the more recent refuting the first Sep 12 19:28:05 and I agree with you Sep 12 19:28:14 blame dos1 Sep 12 19:28:15 as it's opimd's fault :) Sep 12 19:28:29 I just use the data, I don't maintain it. ;) Sep 12 19:28:35 TAsn: ack Sep 12 19:28:39 above 1000 messages - 1.5MB Sep 12 19:28:53 about 600 calls - 120KB Sep 12 19:29:16 do you really need to upgrade sd card from 4MB to 8MB? ;) Sep 12 19:29:27 dos1, :) Sep 12 19:29:40 dos1, but after 21 years it'll get to 10MB! Sep 12 19:29:58 dos1, now for real Sep 12 19:29:58 oh, that's terrible! :D Sep 12 19:30:05 we should just set a filesize limit Sep 12 19:30:12 some people make more calls than you and I Sep 12 19:30:13 dos1: do you really want to moan and whine about slow opimd SQLite in 6 months? Sep 12 19:30:36 DocScrutinizer-8, hopefully, correct indexing should prevent that :) Sep 12 19:30:40 DocScrutinizer-8: it's already slow, but some people (like me) would like to store all that data Sep 12 19:30:50 DocScrutinizer-8: and opimd needs optimalization Sep 12 19:31:03 so before auto-cleaning databases i would like just to optimize opimd ;) Sep 12 19:31:08 so were the 3D7K stuff ever released at all, if I wanted to try putting something together? :P Sep 12 19:31:58 luke-jr: please check GTA03 ML, search for GTA02-core Sep 12 19:32:07 DocScrutinizer-8: I don't want a GTA02 Sep 12 19:32:41 GTA02-core doesn't have my interest in the least, unless they decide to upgrade the hardware Sep 12 19:32:55 luke-jr: I don't want to repeat all that annoying story now it's really really over and obsolete Sep 12 19:33:42 so were the work-in-progress designs released not-working-as-is, or just tossed in the trash bin? Sep 12 19:33:46 dos1, we should manually create huge crazy opimd databases and see how they work with different optimizations Sep 12 19:33:56 btw dos1 Sep 12 19:34:08 please consider using sqlite for opimd's cache Sep 12 19:34:12 just open a connection to Sep 12 19:34:16 ":memory:" Sep 12 19:34:21 it'll create a db on ram Sep 12 19:34:53 TAsn: nice, but really, really huge amount of work Sep 12 19:35:03 and you'll be able to do queries in an optimized and easy fashion Sep 12 19:35:03 dos1, are you alive? Sep 12 19:35:27 entries are objects, with their own methods and properties Sep 12 19:36:00 using sqlite for cache would be similar to rewriting whole opimd :( Sep 12 19:36:25 i hope someone will start fsopimd and it'll be written with keeping speed in mind Sep 12 19:36:47 now i would like to keep API usable and right Sep 12 19:37:02 sigh Sep 12 19:37:07 okie :| Sep 12 19:37:10 * TAsn hates dos1 :) Sep 12 19:37:12 I just want a handheld I can run KDE 4.3 on sanely Sep 12 19:38:42 luke-jr: try atom netbook Sep 12 19:39:30 TAsn: but your suggestion is nice ;) Sep 12 19:40:39 dos1, thanks, in R/L I make a lot of stupid suggestions, IRC lets me shine :) Sep 12 19:40:44 (j/k) Sep 12 19:40:46 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07specs * r54ad78bcbe23 10/html/index.html: Sep 12 19:40:46 freesmartphone.org: index.html: add missing / to close a tag Sep 12 19:40:46 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Sep 12 19:41:04 DocScrutinizer-8: netbook != handheld Sep 12 19:41:07 also, x86 ftl Sep 12 19:41:08 opimd integration in geekogotchi - http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/f86b58a7708b255b9ebd41a255612f1f.png :D Sep 12 19:42:00 dos1, die. ;) Sep 12 19:43:37 TAsn: org.shr.Geekogotchi.Pets.KillPet('dos')? :D Sep 12 19:44:00 NOOO Sep 12 19:44:03 ok, now I'm really off. Sep 12 19:44:10 I've been promising this for hours now Sep 12 19:44:15 (2 hours actually) Sep 12 19:44:48 hehe ;) Sep 12 19:44:55 and i'm starting to fix CSM's in opimd Sep 12 19:45:01 as it somehow got broken ;x Sep 12 19:46:06 * mrmoku wonders if he should add that to the API ... Sep 12 19:48:39 mrmoku: what? Sep 12 19:49:17 org.shr.Geekogotchi.Pets.KillPet Sep 12 19:49:23 :P Sep 12 19:49:59 dos1, do incoming calls feed the pet? Sep 12 19:50:12 :D Sep 12 19:50:23 mrmoku: not yet ;) Sep 12 19:50:31 mrmoku: well, i can provide you complete API if you want :D Sep 12 19:50:58 dos1, nah... wait till the real API is finished :P Sep 12 19:56:46 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07specs * rc2f6c2f73557 10/html/index.html: Sep 12 19:56:46 freesmartphone.org: index.html: fix linuxtogo.com to be linuxtogo.org Sep 12 19:56:46 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Sep 12 19:56:57 lll Sep 12 20:01:06 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r806d41ef06f8 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (6 files): Merge branch 'dos/opimd-tracking' Sep 12 20:07:52 spaetz: ping Sep 12 20:08:32 pong (leaving soon) Sep 12 20:08:54 spaetz: i have small patch for your calculator Sep 12 20:09:15 well, i don't have patch, but i can send you whole file :D Sep 12 20:09:35 cool, do you have a githuub account? Sep 12 20:09:39 no Sep 12 20:10:05 otherwise, i'd just give you access there. Sep 12 20:10:20 if you mail it to me, i'll apply Sep 12 20:10:29 what does it do? Sep 12 20:10:45 i think fixing resizing? :D Sep 12 20:11:06 spaetz: limits resizing, so it doesn't "jump" Sep 12 20:11:34 was a guess :P Sep 12 20:11:40 short question Sep 12 20:12:15 if i would write an email-app for shr, should i write a backend for frameworkd or something? Sep 12 20:12:28 k. probably that couuld be done better now. when i wrote it, the python bindings were a bit more immature Sep 12 20:12:52 klinuxer, nah, don't think so Sep 12 20:12:56 ok Sep 12 20:13:17 spaetz: ok, created github account Sep 12 20:13:25 spaetz: login: dos1 Sep 12 20:13:41 why not addapt modest, or one of the mail apps for small screens? Sep 12 20:13:54 dos1, trying. wait aa seec Sep 12 20:14:09 and for the calculator: i think using 2 lines if the font-size is small enough like in dialer would be nice (does that work with
?) Sep 12 20:14:27 modest? Sep 12 20:17:10 modest is an email client Sep 12 20:17:22 written for the n800 Sep 12 20:18:21 gtk, i think. designed for small screens/touchscreen Sep 12 20:18:49 yeah, but looks to large for the neo screen and it's c Sep 12 20:19:18 spaetz, "At this moment, modest requires the Maemo 5 SDK for Nokia Internet Tablets;" Sep 12 20:19:19 :| Sep 12 20:19:24 hm Sep 12 20:19:40 but uses tinymail Sep 12 20:19:47 email framework ... Sep 12 20:20:05 i think i try that Sep 12 20:20:11 :-(. then use tinymail and create an efl frontend... Sep 12 20:20:16 ah, it's also c ... Sep 12 20:20:33 efl == ? Sep 12 20:20:51 what's that? i didn't get it, is it etk, elementary, ...? Sep 12 20:21:40 maybe i can write python bindings for tinymail Sep 12 20:21:55 klinuxer, there already are python bindings Sep 12 20:22:00 ciao. Sep 12 20:22:26 ok :D Sep 12 20:22:30 cu Sep 12 20:22:43 anyone know if the phone-specific hardware would be doable in a tiny USB dongle? <.< Sep 12 20:22:55 then I'll just grab the new Zaurus :D Sep 12 20:25:13 dos1, can't findd a way to give you access. will have a look tomorrow. n800 is not nice for that... Sep 12 20:25:43 efl, i meant elementary Sep 12 20:25:50 ah, ok Sep 12 20:26:05 efl=enlightenment foundation libraries Sep 12 20:26:13 or sth similar Sep 12 20:26:30 ah, right, think i must've heard that already :D Sep 12 20:28:10 duhhhh... the eve theme is split out in a separate package :P Sep 12 20:28:17 opkg install eve-themes does the trick :) Sep 12 20:28:48 mrmoku, wtf?! we finally got eve? Sep 12 20:29:04 TAsn, yup, opkg install eve + eve-themes Sep 12 20:29:11 though it is not quite usable yet Sep 12 20:29:31 no scrolling... it shows the scrollbar for a moment... and then it vanishes :P Sep 12 20:29:46 but looks quite promissing :) Sep 12 20:30:56 ok, so giving shr-installer a try to give a try to eve :D Sep 12 20:31:04 dos1, ping Sep 12 20:31:09 spaetz: pong Sep 12 20:31:18 you have push rights now Sep 12 20:31:23 http://github.com/spaetz/calc/tree/master Sep 12 20:31:26 thanks :) Sep 12 20:31:40 dos1, since I don't swear, I meant wtf as "what fun" and not the conventional translation ;) Sep 12 20:31:40 cool, thanks : Sep 12 20:31:40 ) Sep 12 20:31:44 np Sep 12 20:32:06 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07specs * rb7e0c8d863b5 10/tools/makedoc.py: Sep 12 20:32:06 freesmartphone.org: makedoc.py: fix the year in the bottom line to be in sync with the index page Sep 12 20:32:06 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Sep 12 20:32:14 TAsn: xDDDDDD Sep 12 20:32:43 mrmoku, bah! :( Sep 12 20:33:15 we really need to "fix" it to use finger scrolling instead Sep 12 20:33:15 I don't think fixing libewebkit should be that hard. Sep 12 20:33:37 TAsn, you need to fix your maths knowledge instead ;) Sep 12 20:33:39 actually for an experienced e programmer it'll probably take minutes Sep 12 20:33:45 TAsn, eever tried 'tear'? Sep 12 20:33:58 spaetz, tear? Sep 12 20:33:59 webkiit browser for maemo Sep 12 20:34:06 nope. Sep 12 20:34:10 fingerfriendly Sep 12 20:34:11 never. Sep 12 20:34:21 dos1, build a recipe :P Sep 12 20:34:25 but it probably uses the maemo sdk, doesn't it? Sep 12 20:34:26 nice scrolling. gtk based Sep 12 20:36:11 how open is maemo (if at all)? Sep 12 20:36:11 mrmoku, I'm multi tasking. Sep 12 20:38:30 maemo is fully open Sep 12 20:38:46 there's already the try to port maemo to fr: mer Sep 12 20:38:53 maemo is open, like android Sep 12 20:39:01 wth, mrmoku Sep 12 20:39:31 dos1, more open than android imho) Sep 12 20:39:31 but i'd doubt if it's really in spirit of FLOSS Sep 12 20:39:39 TAsn, wth == what the hell? :P Sep 12 20:39:53 max_posedon: well, about android i'm sure it's not in that spirit ;) Sep 12 20:40:06 I like freemantle(maemo5) ideas Sep 12 20:40:58 max_posedon: :-)) Sep 12 20:41:02 no eve desktop icon? Sep 12 20:41:02 mrmoku, though it really rules Sep 12 20:41:03 blazing fast. Sep 12 20:41:17 mrmoku, what the heck Sep 12 20:41:18 they based on qt, clutter Sep 12 20:41:36 TAsn, yeah, fast it is :) Sep 12 20:41:41 ~wtf wtf Sep 12 20:41:42 no binary found. Sep 12 20:41:43 which totally good spirited projects) Sep 12 20:41:53 tztztz Sep 12 20:42:21 /join #openmoko; ~wtf wth Sep 12 20:43:45 [22:43] WTH: {what,where,who,why} the hell Sep 12 20:49:28 they broke eve Sep 12 20:49:38 there is nothing done better, everything is worse ;x Sep 12 20:51:09 well, those worse things are scrolling and url bar Sep 12 20:51:22 when url is long it breaks ;p Sep 12 20:53:01 i hope they'll fix that soon Sep 12 20:53:09 as it seems to be the best option for freerunner Sep 12 20:59:57 ui like in neon for eve would be nice :D but i don't want to grump, it's very nice anyway Sep 12 23:06:33 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rb7be0f345f9c 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (docs/TODO pimd_generic.py): opimd: GenericDomain add get_full_content function (returns also parser fields) Sep 12 23:06:34 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rbf86960f041d 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: opimd: SIM-Messages-FSO: fix CSM handling Sep 13 00:32:56 mrmoku|away: I've sent few patches and KMS one.. but KMS is waiting for moderator approval :/ the limit 40kB stopped even bziped patch (cca 50kB) and the same for mplayer with glamo support which I sent few days before... Sep 13 01:01:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7bbc5a773eb6 10/fsotimed/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fsotimed: catch up with fsodevice RTC API changes, rewrite alarm scheduler loop Sep 13 01:02:15 *yawn* Sep 13 01:02:16 n8 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 13 02:59:56 2009