**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 20 02:59:57 2009 Sep 20 06:24:11 hmm Sep 20 06:24:32 copying to the neo (the system is on NAND, and I copy to uSD) is 3.2kB/s Sep 20 06:24:49 I copy OSM maps since 10 hours already Sep 20 06:38:11 BillK, sorry... we have a broken feed right now :( Sep 20 06:50:49 mrmoku: dos failed to build xorg yesterday? Sep 20 06:51:20 Q-Master, yeah think so Sep 20 06:51:29 well it somehow built Sep 20 07:36:17 mrmoku: mplayer should be build with autorev at least trunk from friday was ok Sep 20 07:36:32 JaMa, ok Sep 20 07:38:25 mrmoku: xorg stuff versions should be included from preferred-xorg-version-live.conf which should be in -xorg.conf too Sep 20 07:38:30 mrmoku: xf86-input-tslib does not build Sep 20 07:40:54 Weiss: -xorg.conf should use rc1 and -kms.org git-master Sep 20 07:41:13 Heinervdm: I have patch for bitbake enabling % wildcard Sep 20 07:41:34 JaMa: that's the problem with that ;) Sep 20 07:41:35 Heinervdm: check oe-dev list or bitbake-dev list.. for patch and distussion Sep 20 07:41:58 but autoreved versions cannot be preferred at all without this patch Sep 20 07:43:15 I think it's bad to AUTOREV xorg, you don't know if every version will build Sep 20 07:43:17 you have to use DEFAULT_PREFERRENCE.. Sep 20 07:43:39 Heinervdm: thats why its supposed to be used only for kms.conf Sep 20 07:44:05 Heinervdm: -xorg.conf should have all versions from preferred-xorg-version-live.conf where are only latest releases... Sep 20 07:44:34 but -xorg.conf build 1.3 ;) Sep 20 07:45:25 is there that include? Sep 20 07:46:48 yes Sep 20 07:50:05 Heinervdm: please check if there is no PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver_xorg = (= without ?=) in config chain after including that -live.conf Sep 20 07:50:37 it's defined in prefered-shr-versions Sep 20 07:50:49 with = or ?=? Sep 20 07:51:52 with Sep 20 07:52:08 i'm cleaning up that file Sep 20 07:52:12 with ?= Sep 20 07:52:25 that should ok, because it should set it only if empty Sep 20 07:53:05 strange that it works for me :/ Sep 20 07:55:00 sucessfully built mplayer revision here 29687 Sep 20 08:02:33 Hey guys. :) How is this called: you're hanging on a pullup bar, do a partial pull up and at the same time leg raise so that legs go _over_ the bar and you rotate to the standing-on-the-hands position? And can you do that? Sep 20 08:02:54 JaMa: PREFERRED_VERSION_xorg-server ?= "1.6.99.901" Sep 20 08:03:08 Heinervdm: is where? Sep 20 08:03:16 that should be xserver-xorg Sep 20 08:03:25 in -live.conf Sep 20 08:03:30 ah you're right! Sep 20 08:03:56 xorg has named it xorg-server and that preferred-xor-version is generated by script Sep 20 08:04:04 which doesn't rename it :) Sep 20 08:04:24 please change it manually and I'll fix script for next regeneration Sep 20 08:04:28 thank you Sep 20 08:05:26 JaMa: i sent patch for xserver-kdrive-commen, so that Xorg will start Sep 20 08:05:52 and set dpi to 280 instead of 285 Sep 20 08:06:13 so that we have 4 icons in a row instead of 3 :) Sep 20 08:07:20 then we should depend xorg-xserver-conf on xf86-video-glamo and xf86-input-tslib Sep 20 08:07:33 so that these packages will be installed Sep 20 08:14:37 JaMa: 1.6.99.901 faiöed: http://shr.pastebin.com/d3a8a3e0a Sep 20 08:16:55 oh ne, wrong version :) Sep 20 08:17:46 dos1|neo: good morning Sep 20 08:18:04 morning ;) Sep 20 08:18:22 PaulFertser: ping Sep 20 08:18:31 dos1|neo: [09:55:00] sucessfully built mplayer revision here 29687 Sep 20 08:19:31 dos1|neo: pong Sep 20 08:20:46 PaulFertser: any clue why everything is really slower after suspend&resume, than on fresh boot? It's really nice and usable on fresh boot, after suspend UI slows down - keyboard is laggy, window refreshing, everything takes more time Sep 20 08:21:19 PaulFertser: some registry wrongly set after resume? any clue? :/ Sep 20 08:21:26 dos1|neo: do you have some testcase I could try? Sep 20 08:21:41 dos1|neo: does it for example show up in x11perf? Sep 20 08:21:53 lindi-: dunno, i'll check Sep 20 08:22:01 dos1|neo: have you tried restarting X after resume? Sep 20 08:22:18 PaulFertser: i'll try Sep 20 08:22:37 Heinervdm: thanks, i'll try fixing the rev Sep 20 08:24:18 Heinervdm: tslib shouldn't be needed Sep 20 08:24:27 mrmoku: hey, did you apply my patches from ~/dos/ ? Sep 20 08:24:40 JaMa: what else? evdev? Sep 20 08:24:44 Heinervdm: just evdev for all 4 inputs.. ts, keyb, power and keys Sep 20 08:25:18 Heinervdm: I've also keyboard and mouse.. just because xorg complained something about it in log... but are not used in runtime Sep 20 08:25:29 JaMa: but then we have to change xorg.conf Sep 20 08:25:34 * JaMa leaving in 4 minutes.. Sep 20 08:25:58 Heinervdm: I'm using config from Weiss Sep 20 08:26:04 Heinervdm: xorg.conf Sep 20 08:26:14 where is it? Sep 20 08:26:16 hmm forgot to add it to recipe Sep 20 08:26:26 ;) Sep 20 08:26:52 http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/dri-for-the-freerunner.html Sep 20 08:27:15 also check Xserver script.. Weiss is appending some calibrations stuff there.. Sep 20 08:27:50 I've both xorg.conf and this Xserver modification in sort of after-flash rutines.. thats why I forgot to add it to recipe :/ Sep 20 08:32:05 JaMa: have of that i already changed Sep 20 08:32:19 xserver-kdrive-commen is the recipe for taht Sep 20 08:32:37 but no calibration ;) Sep 20 08:39:04 its in kdrive? strange.. but ok.. I've to go.. bye.. Sep 20 08:39:21 JaMa: that's only package name Sep 20 08:46:25 Heinervdm: add root-ppm to Xorg parameters! ;x Sep 20 08:48:01 dos1|neo, I refuse to search the buildhost for patches of you without request ;) Sep 20 08:48:02 dos1|neo: Xorg complained, that it doesn't know root-ppm Sep 20 08:48:07 and there was nothing in patchwork :P Sep 20 08:48:15 dos1|neo, applying them now Sep 20 08:49:25 applied Sep 20 08:50:38 mrmoku: i don't have git send-email on neo :P Sep 20 08:52:45 dos1|neo, but on the buildhost ;) Sep 20 08:53:25 dos1|neo, but... no problem... it is even faster for me to get them from the buildhost Sep 20 08:53:30 dos1|neo, you just have to tell me :P Sep 20 08:54:30 * Heinervdm flashing now new image with xorg :) Sep 20 08:54:35 onen|openBmap, hey... I have a feature request for you :) Sep 20 08:54:45 mrmoku: morgen Sep 20 08:54:55 onen|openBmap, morgen Sep 20 08:55:02 mrmoku: i won't save my pass on buildhost in plaintext, sorry :P Sep 20 08:55:07 mrmoku: moin moin. Yep, ready to add it to todo list ;-) Sep 20 08:55:12 mrmoku: but.. new patch ;D Sep 20 08:55:41 onen|openBmap, if transferring logfiles fails... I don't want him to ask me if I want to delete the logs ;) Sep 20 08:56:20 dos1|neo, applied Sep 20 08:56:26 mrmoku: :-) this part needs rework anyway (GUI not freezing, progress bar, etc.) Your problem should Sep 20 08:56:30 mplayer built :) Sep 20 08:56:36 mrmoku: be solved by such a rework Sep 20 08:56:42 onen|openBmap, good thing :) Sep 20 08:56:46 dos1|neo, good thing :) Sep 20 08:56:48 mrmoku: but I take the not :-) Sep 20 08:57:06 mrmoku: this rework is not taking place at th emoment... :-( Sep 20 08:57:53 mrmoku: I need to spend more time to finish my dbus location service Sep 20 08:58:02 onen|openBmap, np Sep 20 08:58:10 heyho Sep 20 08:58:11 mrmoku: it uses session bus for now, but I guess it should be a system bus... Sep 20 08:58:22 onen|openBmap, it did not (yet) happen to me that I answered yes :P Sep 20 08:58:43 morphis: hi gnufiish tinkerer Sep 20 08:59:12 mrmoku: :-D good point, indeed Sep 20 08:59:47 onen|openBmap: don't think I am a gnufiish tinkerer anylonger :) Sep 20 09:00:27 morphis: that's too bad :-( but I resigned much sooner than you did (very very much faster :-( ) Sep 20 09:00:47 onen|openBmap: gave it up, after no visible results since jan/feb this year Sep 20 09:00:59 morphis: thanks anyway for your nice work on it, too bad it did not reach a better situation in the end Sep 20 09:01:35 but I am looking forward to buy a palm pre when it is available here in germany and start working on this promising device Sep 20 09:01:44 morphis: may I ask if you put your efforts somewhere else (maybe the reason of your presence here?) Sep 20 09:02:28 onen|openBmap: currently I am working on a calendar widget for elementary and when the pre is available I will start a little chanlange together with the rest of the fso team to bring everything we do to the palm pre :) Sep 20 09:02:39 morphis: I have read a news where the guy stated that commits to palm pre kernel would let think that tivoization is comming :-( Sep 20 09:02:51 onen|openBmap: maybe this helps the community more Sep 20 09:03:30 tivoization? where did you read about it? Sep 20 09:03:52 morphis: let me few seconds, I try to find it again... Sep 20 09:04:14 ok Sep 20 09:04:21 would be very interesting Sep 20 09:05:26 mrmoku: sent two more patches to build 1.6.99.901 instead of git and a corrected xorg.conf Sep 20 09:07:30 morphis: sorry, I cannot find it again. A blog post, where the guy was saying that some commits would let think that they would prepare locking the device. bad I cannot state my sources :-( Sep 20 09:07:41 onen|openBmap: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Palm-Pre-and-My-Tether/ ? Sep 20 09:07:43 oh forgott to bump PR in xserver-xorg.conf Sep 20 09:09:06 morphis: :-D I even narrowed my search to this website, because I thought that was the place I saw it, but did not find it again. You did better than me! :-D that's the news in fact, yes Sep 20 09:10:04 :) Sep 20 09:11:03 morphis: what about the android phones around? there is an effort with the hero I think, why the pre? because so far, there is no lock (and not an "easily broken" lock)? Sep 20 09:12:22 onen|openBmap: you mean no lock on the android phones? Sep 20 09:13:22 morphis: I mean the pre has so far no firmware lock. the android phones, at best, have an easy broken one. is your interest for the pre because it is really open? (and they have a more normal kernel dev way?) Sep 20 09:13:41 onen|openBmap: the pre is interessting cause of its design, lvm on the internal flash, documentated cpu easy to become root Sep 20 09:14:01 onen|openBmap: I think yes Sep 20 09:14:09 morphis: I see. So more open than the rest Sep 20 09:14:19 morphis: thanks for your input :-) Sep 20 09:14:21 the other reason is that I don't like all the htc device running android Sep 20 09:14:33 morphis: why that? Sep 20 09:14:44 feeling :) Sep 20 09:15:04 the pre has more coolness I think Sep 20 09:15:32 and I am palm device fan for a many years now, cause I like the keyboard under the screen Sep 20 09:16:10 onen|openBmap: do you mean that the idea palm can go tivo route is only justified by restricting license to gplv2 only for some webos parts? Sep 20 09:16:47 morphis: lvm on internal flash? Do you mean they use ubi? Sep 20 09:16:59 PaulFertser: that's how I understand what states the article Sep 20 09:17:00 ubi? Sep 20 09:17:16 onen|openBmap: no relation to the kernel whatsoever, it's gplv2 only since the beginning. Sep 20 09:17:39 PaulFertser: as I know the pre has one part for internal linux stuff and one big fat32 lvm partition for user data Sep 20 09:17:47 morphis: yes, ubi containers. Integrated NAND needs special filesystems like jffs2 or ubifs etc. Sep 20 09:18:09 PaulFertser: sure. but if they move the rest of their code to v2, it may be to allow locking. that is what the author thinks, no? Sep 20 09:18:13 and as we know lvm as to be easy to shrink it should be easy to provide dual boot on the pre Sep 20 09:18:15 morphis: fat32 partition? That's some kind of insanity/nonsense, who needs fat32 nowadays :-/ Sep 20 09:18:21 PaulFertser: ah ok Sep 20 09:18:57 PaulFertser: think about the users who runs the pre together with windows and connecting the device to it, which windows version could read ext2/3/4 these days? Sep 20 09:19:31 morphis: ubi is designed specifically to make a fast scalable etc filesystem, to overcome all weak points of jffs2 and to allow lvm-like functionality. Sep 20 09:19:41 hm Sep 20 09:19:47 morphis: any windows version can read extX, ext2ifs driver allows it. Sep 20 09:20:31 jep, but you have to install it Sep 20 09:20:34 morphis: also there's no need to be compatible on the FS level, just export files via NFS or samba, or like we do via ssh/scp. Sep 20 09:20:46 tell that palm :) Sep 20 09:20:57 it was not my idea Sep 20 09:21:16 morphis: windows doesn't have _lots_ of drivers, useful programs etc etc out-of-the box. One driver more or less is non-issue for its lusers. Sep 20 09:21:43 PaulFertser: I have the same opinion, but Palm not :) Sep 20 09:21:59 PaulFertser: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/palm_pre/ Sep 20 09:22:46 morphis: please, my day is fulled with thoughts about unpleasant things without reading about stupid nonsense :-/ Sep 20 09:24:08 ... Sep 20 09:25:17 so now only navit and cornucopia (WTF is with it?), and we can test bump EFL revision :D Sep 20 09:26:25 E on my image isn't starting :( Sep 20 09:26:48 Enlightenment found Evas can't create a buffer canvas. Please check Evas has Software Buffer engine support. Sep 20 09:31:06 raster: ping Sep 20 09:31:08 raster: any clue? Sep 20 09:31:38 Heinervdm, sounds like once again evas engines are not included in the image Sep 20 09:31:52 likely missing buffer engine packages Sep 20 09:32:02 buffer engine is always compiled by default Sep 20 09:32:08 (as it has no dependencies) Sep 20 09:32:19 oh, so old problem Sep 20 09:32:28 i thought it's related with introducing xorg ;) Sep 20 09:32:59 raster: I am currently working on a calendar widget, it's nearly finished, should I send patches to the e-dev-ml or commit it on my own to svn? Sep 20 09:33:03 raster: any recent EFL revision you'd recommend to -unstable? ;) Sep 20 09:33:39 nothing due to xorg - buffer enigne is "rendering to a memory buffer" engine Sep 20 09:33:40 ie 100 Sep 20 09:33:56 ie 100% software for the rendering and then itw really just leaving the argb pixel contents in the alloced buffer Sep 20 09:33:57 then there is a depends somewhere missing... Sep 20 09:34:17 no other hooks to windowing systemn etc, so it needs/depends/is not affeted by any windowing system etc. lib changes Sep 20 09:34:27 Heinervdm: do you have concurrent build enabled? Sep 20 09:34:29 morphis: to e-dev ml Sep 20 09:34:29 :) Sep 20 09:34:35 dmo awesome btw :) Sep 20 09:34:44 Heinervdm: there is some race condition in generating images by bitbake Sep 20 09:34:47 dos1: hmm well i dont keep rev $'s in my head Sep 20 09:34:48 :) Sep 20 09:34:50 dos1: how do i enable this? Sep 20 09:35:05 Heinervdm: s/enable/disable/ ;) Sep 20 09:35:09 in local.conf IIRC Sep 20 09:35:14 ok :) Sep 20 09:35:17 Heinervdm: as such applicatiosn should incpude depends on engines depending which they require or optionally support (Then have recommends) Sep 20 09:36:26 dos1: there is no predefined value for this? Sep 20 09:38:05 Heinervdm: there is Sep 20 09:38:24 Heinervdm: Sep 20 09:38:27 #PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 4" Sep 20 09:38:28 #BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "4" Sep 20 09:38:44 check if you have it uncommented Sep 20 09:38:50 well Sep 20 09:38:53 i have Sep 20 09:38:56 PARALLEL_MAKE should be ok Sep 20 09:39:07 but BB_NUMBER_THREADS can lead to problems Sep 20 09:41:20 raster: a very old version: https://mm.gravedo.de/tmp/elementary_calendar.png Sep 20 09:41:55 morphis: how are the internals done? a table? Sep 20 09:42:05 raster: jepp, a table with buttons Sep 20 09:42:27 i would actually lean to the whole thing being a single edj with multiple named parts that u can set text on etc. Sep 20 09:42:32 on the top you have a titlebar which are scrollable so you can scroll with your fingers through the monts Sep 20 09:42:39 mostly to make it more designer friendly Sep 20 09:42:44 hm Sep 20 09:42:54 I am planing to introduce a different button style Sep 20 09:42:59 then theyh can have interesting effects for weekend marker etc. Sep 20 09:43:07 hmm not sure about that Sep 20 09:43:10 one for normal dates, on for dates with events and one for the current date Sep 20 09:43:28 mostly because u want to probably be able to not have buttons - be able to add "icons" for specific dates/days Sep 20 09:43:41 (eg could be a box with multiple icons for indicating pending appointments etc.) Sep 20 09:43:42 hm ok Sep 20 09:43:56 so a swallow for each date field? Sep 20 09:44:53 yeah Sep 20 09:44:56 and a text label for each Sep 20 09:45:01 as such this is a sane widget Sep 20 09:45:20 u simply have a naming scheme for date # labels Sep 20 09:45:43 so every date field as a titlebar and under the title is a swallow rect where icons or something else can be inserted? Sep 20 09:45:50 elm.text.13.label Sep 20 09:45:53 elm.text.13.icon Sep 20 09:46:18 (for the 13th slot, being 7 slots per row, etc.) Sep 20 09:46:26 ah ok Sep 20 09:46:32 copde determins what slots are blank/disabled (previous or next month days) Sep 20 09:46:39 wherew the 1st starts and where the last day is Sep 20 09:46:49 should I use elm_icon for that? Sep 20 09:46:51 via signals u emit states per day cell Sep 20 09:46:54 oh n oi Sep 20 09:46:56 a swallow Sep 20 09:47:11 let the user of the calendar provide icons - those aree probably for adding content per day Sep 20 09:47:14 and who tells the widget which stuff is inserted into the swallow? Sep 20 09:47:25 (as i said - an icon for maybe "have appointments here" or something) Sep 20 09:47:32 the calendar widget Sep 20 09:47:36 api Sep 20 09:47:49 so elm_calendar_date_icon_set(obj, my_icon), elm_calendar_date_busy_icon_set(obj, my_busy_icon) Sep 20 09:47:51 elm_calendar_icon_add(cal, 13, my_icon); Sep 20 09:47:53 for example Sep 20 09:47:55 my_icon is another object Sep 20 09:47:59 jepp Sep 20 09:48:04 eg my_icon = elm_icon_add(); Sep 20 09:48:06 could be anything Sep 20 09:48:15 and 13 == 13th date for the moneth Sep 20 09:48:38 (calendar does the translatiosn from the correct cell to address in the calendare edje design and actual dates) Sep 20 09:48:48 jepp Sep 20 09:48:53 as suhc calewndar probabyl shoudl handle translations like day 134 of 2009 Sep 20 09:49:00 or 13th of jan 2009 Sep 20 09:49:02 etc. etc. Sep 20 09:49:18 buyt one way or another it does the abstracting between the edje and the user and packages into a widget Sep 20 09:49:38 it sets the day labels inthe edje (and the edje now defines how that loosk and where these are drawn) Sep 20 09:49:49 calendar code determines if days start on sun or mon Sep 20 09:49:51 etc. etc. Sep 20 09:50:13 user of cal can provide icons for specirfic cells/dates Sep 20 09:50:26 possibly also add a label per cell too that can be set (in addition to date number) Sep 20 09:50:37 and then possibly abstract some states for a day Sep 20 09:50:52 seems to be a complete redesign of my current work Sep 20 09:50:55 :) Sep 20 09:50:57 (let calendar code determine which days are weekend and weekday and appropriately emit signals to the edje for that) Sep 20 09:51:05 and then allwo code above to emit other signals Sep 20 09:51:11 (well not emit as such - but to define stte) Sep 20 09:51:14 eg disabled/enabled Sep 20 09:51:18 busy, partly busy Sep 20 09:51:27 holiday Sep 20 09:51:28 etc. Sep 20 09:51:47 so we should handle all the busy states in the widget? Sep 20 09:51:50 state can for now be a limited enum - expanded later to more states as needed Sep 20 09:51:54 yes Sep 20 09:51:57 hm Sep 20 09:52:16 my first though was only a widget which enables you to select a date, mark dates as busy Sep 20 09:52:16 calendare may have multiple modes too Sep 20 09:52:20 "mini" or "full" Sep 20 09:52:27 weekly, monthly? Sep 20 09:52:28 that'd class for mini-mode Sep 20 09:52:30 i'd say Sep 20 09:52:44 only diisplays cells (may display differently based on weekday, weekend and if busy) Sep 20 09:52:47 display a tate Sep 20 09:52:50 and mon->sun Sep 20 09:52:54 hello there Sep 20 09:52:58 (or M, T, W, T, F) etc. Sep 20 09:53:02 ie a compressed version Sep 20 09:53:07 a full version may display much more Sep 20 09:53:45 i've read once about high-precision mode for the neo's gps, but i can't find the page. anyone ever used it? i believe you had to send some commands using UBX Sep 20 09:54:12 raster: ok I will thing about it and started implementing this stuff Sep 20 09:54:35 seems that your plans for the cal widget are much higher than mine :) Sep 20 09:57:20 hehehe Sep 20 09:57:23 i like to leave room Sep 20 09:57:30 but i'd want it to be more than just selecting a date Sep 20 09:57:36 to also show state in mroe detail Sep 20 09:57:47 ie much more useful to a simpe calendaring/appointment app Sep 20 09:57:53 so they can show more info per day etc. Sep 20 09:58:07 of course there comes a point where it doesnt do enough and u have to do your own calendar thing Sep 20 09:58:20 but u cant predict and support every possible insanity people might want Sep 20 09:58:21 :) Sep 20 09:59:22 raster: have you seen opimd-dates form opimd-utils? Sep 20 10:00:03 raster: :) Sep 20 10:00:14 Heinervdm, mrmoku: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/2909334.txt - navits do_install Sep 20 10:00:20 raster: I will see how close to come your favourite design :) Sep 20 10:01:19 dos1: tried to run wmf2svg be hand? Sep 20 10:03:09 Heinervdm: no Sep 20 10:04:00 Heinervdm: nup Sep 20 10:07:15 raster: there i'm marking busy dates with colors, very ugly ;) Sep 20 10:07:55 but it will use the cal widget as soon as it's released Sep 20 10:08:17 generally i'd pass it off to edje - emit a signal nd let the design do it Sep 20 10:08:25 it cna use colors, fading, images or anything it likes Sep 20 10:08:39 i generally like to pass things onto edje where sane/possible Sep 20 10:10:16 dos1: on my buildhost, navit installed fine Sep 20 10:11:18 dos1: i have no wmf2svg installed on host, is it installed on buildhost? Sep 20 10:12:13 raster: i just wanted to have a gui, as soon as possible, so i hacked sth together :) Needed it just for testing the backend Sep 20 10:12:44 but i'm happy that there will come a real widget Sep 20 10:12:49 Heinervdm: i don't think so Sep 20 10:13:36 dos1: navit-0.2.0+svnrev2580 Sep 20 10:13:39 say, is this u-boot modem passthrough mode still working? Sep 20 10:13:55 so that you can talk directly via ttyUSB0 to the embedded modem? Sep 20 10:14:24 so I am off boys Sep 20 10:14:25 bye Sep 20 10:14:27 SRCDIR=. ./navit_svg2png "/home/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/convert" "nav_roundabout_r8_bk_96_96.png" Sep 20 10:14:28 convert: Delegate failed `"wmf2svg" -o "%o" "%i"'. Sep 20 10:14:30 convert: unable to open image `/tmp/magick-XXFakVgV': No such file or directory. Sep 20 10:14:31 convert: UnableToOpenBlob `/tmp/magick-XXFakVgV': No such file or directory. Sep 20 10:14:33 convert: missing an image filename `nav_roundabout_r8_bk_96_96.png'. Sep 20 10:15:26 Heinervdm, what does shr-unstable/tmp/staging-> find . -name wmf2svg give for you? Sep 20 10:16:05 mrmoku: nothing Sep 20 10:16:13 ok Sep 20 10:18:38 Making install in xpm <- i don't have this line Sep 20 10:18:49 * PaulFertser has a non-working fridge atm. And nearest store doesn't have a really fitting spare thermo-relay :-/ Sep 20 10:19:31 found that line :) Sep 20 10:20:43 Making install in xpm Sep 20 10:20:44 make[3]: Entering directory `/home/thomas/SHR/SHR/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/navit-0.2.0+svnrev2580-r0/navit/navit/xpm' Sep 20 10:20:46 make[4]: Entering directory `/home/thomas/SHR/SHR/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/navit-0.2.0+svnrev2580-r0/navit/navit/xpm' Sep 20 10:20:47 make[4]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. Sep 20 10:21:10 on buildhost there are these errors between make[3] and make[4] Sep 20 10:22:53 But it does not install any .png files for me, so the are missing Sep 20 10:25:29 * PaulFertser has to buy a non-fitting and invent some ad-hoc fixing for that... :-/ Sep 20 10:26:38 There are a lot of packages missing in my image... Sep 20 10:28:26 PaulFertser: sissi! Build a uC-termocontroller ;-) Sep 20 10:29:52 * mrmoku lunch Sep 20 10:29:55 PaulFertser: FR + USB-relaycard Sep 20 10:30:08 hmm, doesn't look like it's still working Sep 20 10:30:09 *sigh* Sep 20 10:30:37 dos1: Xorg is working with current shr/import, touch is working too Sep 20 10:31:46 :) Sep 20 10:33:11 but cornucopia still unbuildable on buildhost ;/ Sep 20 10:33:35 mrmoku|away, dos1: now we have to disable the curser Sep 20 10:33:43 dos1: which reciepe? Sep 20 10:34:41 libfsobasics fails because it can't find vapi files Sep 20 10:34:47 but they are in staging dir ;/ Sep 20 10:36:50 * DocScrutinizer-8 wonders if we get rid of the curse then as well? ;-P Sep 20 10:38:24 dos1: libfsobasics-0.8.2.0+gitr500+2497004b66b46b9854c774cd397a4f40c39f3d10 ? Sep 20 10:39:25 Heinervdm: yes, but not only Sep 20 10:39:50 Heinervdm: before bumping vala there was the same problem Sep 20 10:40:11 it's building for me ;) Sep 20 10:40:20 build from scratch :P Sep 20 10:42:55 khiraly1: (ultimate...foo) there is no better explanation than on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels and the following picture from Paul, and the following sorted amixer output listing from me Sep 20 10:44:34 khiraly1: If you learn enough about WM8753 to do that wikipage you started, you should understand as well why it's of no use in the end Sep 20 10:44:38 mrmoku|away: dos1: xcursor-transparent-theme_0.1.1.bb i think that can disable cursor for us Sep 20 10:45:06 khiraly1: btw PaulFertser already mentioned that to you some days ago Sep 20 10:50:05 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/cb77e26cf0ca065812e00f124ce34f84.png SHR with Xorg :) (and missing packages ;) ) Sep 20 10:51:41 ;) Sep 20 10:52:23 bah, a png. I thought it's an image to DL ;-) Sep 20 10:52:52 dos1: installing xcursor-transparent-theme is enough to hide the cursor Sep 20 10:53:34 DocScrutinizer: my image is bad, because a lot of packages are missing Sep 20 10:53:38 Heinervdm: then add it to ask and send patch ;) Sep 20 10:53:52 Heinervdm: build with disabled bb threads Sep 20 10:54:15 s/ask/task/ Sep 20 10:55:10 * DocScrutinizer wonders if ENabling curser would be a nice feature as well. Thinking about mouse attached to USB Sep 20 10:55:33 dos1: task-shr-minimal? Sep 20 10:55:53 Heinervdm: yup, or some x task Sep 20 10:56:27 err, some theme-task? Sep 20 10:57:22 dos1: patch sent for task-shr-minimal-x Sep 20 11:01:38 Heinervdm: if you have more than three icons, do they line up in three columns instead of four? I've been having "trouble" with that - I think some kind of Illume theme tweaking may be needed Sep 20 11:02:02 Weiss: i reduced dpi from 285 to 280 Sep 20 11:02:15 ah, and that fixed it? Sep 20 11:02:19 yes Sep 20 11:02:43 Weiss: yesterday it was like that, not tested today ;) Sep 20 11:04:20 works for me (latest Xorg Git+KMS and related goodies - no reason to expect it'd be different for the conventional stuff) Sep 20 11:04:27 awesome. thanks, that's been bugging me for a while Sep 20 11:05:05 Weiss: i hope that it will have no sideeffects :) Sep 20 11:06:43 Heinervdm: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/1ec3f67337210ebf6584eb6c21c55854.png - Xorg+KMS+goodies at 280 DPI Sep 20 11:07:00 some of the icons suffer a little bit, perhaps Sep 20 11:07:31 looks ok :) Sep 20 11:09:52 Hi, is there possible a problem with the upgrade procedure? fsousaged depends on libfso-glib0 0.2.1 but only 0.2.0 is still available! Sep 20 11:11:37 CosmicDuck: it should work, ignore it for now Sep 20 11:12:23 fsousaged could not upgraded. Ok, I will upgrade later. Sep 20 11:13:05 Weiss: GLXGears? Sep 20 11:13:35 DieMumiee: glxgears doesn't work at all right now. well on the way to making glxdemo work though Sep 20 11:14:27 it's very nearly time to start bashing the 3D engine properly. i really hope we can get somewhere before i start my next job in a couple of weeks.. Sep 20 11:14:52 well maybe i shall convince them to fire you within the first weeks? Sep 20 11:15:11 nooo :o Sep 20 11:15:15 :) Sep 20 11:15:53 actually, it might be a fairly gentle start leading up to MegaWorkDoom around Christmas Sep 20 11:17:28 but I don't know.. there's a lot of exciting stuff to do (in the new job), and I'm already starting a lot later than expected because my thesis and examination took so long to organise Sep 20 11:17:55 well nobody will blame you for going to work. Sep 20 11:18:59 oss should be fun in the first place Sep 20 11:19:03 not duty or obligation.. Sep 20 11:19:11 i'll blame, don't worry Sep 20 11:19:13 ;D Sep 20 11:19:42 :P Sep 20 11:19:55 Weiss: so you go for full opengl atm? and not es1? Sep 20 11:20:48 DieMumiee: yep, full OpenGL. ES is mostly just a question of restricting which functions the client can use Sep 20 11:22:27 i.e. if the client uses something which isn't in ES, AND which the hardware can't support, then it falls back and "too bad". but if they use (say) glBegin/glEnd, then that's fine even though it's not part of ES Sep 20 11:25:46 ok makes more sense, given that there is no free software using es Sep 20 11:32:04 DocScrutinizer: hehe, it'd be a fun project. Except that it'd require a small PSU to get some sane dc from 220V and also TRIAC and some other stuff. And it's not a fun project to do on sunday, especially with lots of food in the fridge. Sep 20 11:36:28 PaulFertser: short the switch and run the fridge 100% ;-) Sep 20 11:36:42 better than stinky food Sep 20 11:38:13 DocScrutinizer-8: yes, i suggested it to my father already but for some unknown reason he prefers to wait a little. I bought a semi-compatible thermo-regulator from the nearest store now and took it apart, it has a compatible part that extends when the temperature is high, will try to use it together with the old thermo-regulator :-/ Sep 20 11:39:33 PaulFertser: forget that. been there, done that. taking abart and then recalibrating a mech thermostat is a mega PITA Sep 20 11:39:49 s/ ab/ap/ Sep 20 11:39:50 DocScrutinizer-8 meant: PaulFertser: forget that. been there, done that. takingapart and then recalibrating a mech thermostat is a mega PITA Sep 20 11:42:25 PaulFertser: or do it for the mere experience ;-) Sep 20 11:43:09 for sure your food in fride will add to the overall cost of that execise ;-D Sep 20 11:45:19 I'm off for today, cya tomorrow :) Sep 20 11:48:16 PaulFertser: just solder a relay parallel to e.g. aux led. you got a thermo-readout of sufficient precision in CC Sep 20 11:48:41 PaulFertser: you could impress the shit out of your dad :-D Sep 20 12:04:04 DocScrutinizer-8: he's engineer too, he won't be impressed. Sep 20 12:04:12 hehe Sep 20 12:04:40 DocScrutinizer-8: btw, i've got another more suitable toy for that: STM32 Primer2 ( http://stm32circle.com ) Sep 20 12:05:25 DocScrutinizer-8: but the main problem is that no free software currently supports SDW cortex-m3 interface (two-wire variant of JTAG) despite it's fully open and public for about 2 years already. Sep 20 12:42:25 wtf? Sep 20 12:42:41 xpPhone - phone with windows xp on it Sep 20 12:43:31 http://www.slashgear.com/itg-xpphone-wvga-touchscreen-qwerty-3g-2945295/ Sep 20 12:46:19 * mrmoku is flashing his first xorg image :) Sep 20 12:47:49 toi toi toi Sep 20 12:48:25 mrmoku: built locally or on buildhost? Sep 20 12:48:30 dos1, locally Sep 20 12:59:32 dos1: i've even heard of device that had 2 CPUs to be able to run both windows xp and windows CE. Sep 20 13:01:50 hmm... broken xorg.conf Sep 20 13:02:14 * mrmoku wonders if device autodetection might work on FR too and removes it ;) Sep 20 13:03:25 Backtrace: Sep 20 13:03:25 AMNMG?VEjMPGRA7K�a��q Sep 20 13:03:25 X\m1NOBMAQTbz_V_S]SQ���鶽�� (0xbeadb7c Sep 20 13:03:25 8+0xfffffeac) [0xbeadb674] Sep 20 13:03:27 Segmentation fault at address 0xc Sep 20 13:03:30 nice :P Sep 20 13:03:37 hrhrrhrrr Sep 20 13:03:50 * mrmoku back to help wifey moving stuff around :) Sep 20 13:03:53 stack messed up Sep 20 13:05:07 mrmoku: probably your bead b7c is broken. Let me see if I got a spare component ;-D Sep 20 13:07:53 DocScrutinizer, :P Sep 20 13:10:19 dos1, my xorg.conf is truncated somewhere in the middle... Sep 20 13:10:42 huh... no it is not :P Sep 20 13:10:59 * mrmoku considers getting another coffee Sep 20 13:13:41 Backtrace: Sep 20 13:13:41 0: (vdso) (0xbe8ca7b8+0xfffffeac) [0xbe8ca664] Sep 20 13:13:41 Segmentation fault at address 0xc Sep 20 13:13:47 this is somewhat more usefull :) Sep 20 13:14:25 address 0xC ? Yes probably :-P Sep 20 13:15:45 probably a used to dereference a variable :-) Sep 20 13:15:57 what is vdso Sep 20 13:16:44 hmm... no glamo in the image Sep 20 13:17:44 Oh, vdso is something cool. Sep 20 13:18:05 Virtual Dynamically-linked Shared Object, a kernel-provided shared library that helps userspace perform a few kernel actions without the overhead of a system call, as well as automatically choosing the most efficient syscall mechanism. Also called the "vsyscall page". Sep 20 13:19:36 http://www.trilithium.com/johan/2005/08/linux-gate/ Sep 20 13:20:32 PaulFertser: you're amazing :) Sep 20 13:21:29 PaulFertser, :) thanks Sep 20 13:21:50 DocScrutinizer-8: direct your kudos to fucking google :) Sep 20 13:25:01 mrmoku: what about starting shr-unstable build from scratch on buildhost? Sep 20 13:26:11 dos1, might be the correct time to do that :P Sep 20 13:26:23 and IIRC Heinervdm reported it to build even Sep 20 13:26:30 dos1, so... go ahead Sep 20 13:26:51 mrmoku: just rm -rf tmp and bitbake tasks? Sep 20 13:27:11 yup Sep 20 13:31:10 mrmoku: just saw it: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/splash-mrmoku.ppm Sep 20 13:31:13 nice ;DD Sep 20 13:31:49 but Sep 20 13:31:58 dos1, heh... always wanted to finish it... never came around to it Sep 20 13:31:59 what happened with our logo contest? :x Sep 20 13:32:10 dos1, we might just have to announce the winner ;) Sep 20 13:32:19 dos1, well... maybe do a vote first :P Sep 20 13:32:25 hehe Sep 20 13:33:13 ok, going offline now to clean up cabling under my desk... wifey will love me for that :P Sep 20 13:33:16 bbl Sep 20 14:01:58 hi Sep 20 14:02:04 ~logs Sep 20 14:02:05 logs is probably at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel.txt Sep 20 14:35:03 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r62a65b70ce9e 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/controller/ (Makefile.am plugin.vala resource.vala): fsousaged: controller: split into two files Sep 20 14:43:55 were there any efforts on bringing voip to the neo yet? Sep 20 14:53:28 allegedly there is linphone, and iirc litephone. And mrmoku|away went nuts on trying to compile twinkle cmdline core for OM, due to nasty libs that don't build... Sep 20 15:04:20 DocScrutinizer-8: litephone is just phone suite of top of FSO, as Paroli, Zhone or SHR apps Sep 20 15:04:38 dos1: ooh Sep 20 15:05:06 thanks for update :) Sep 20 15:18:33 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * rce3ac71ef30b 10/app/app.pro: CONFIG += static Sep 20 15:18:34 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * r25b9364003f6 10/lib/phonesim.cpp: lib: fix spec violation for unsolicited commands. Those commands have to be initiated with \r\n Sep 20 15:25:32 ~lart QtXML classes Sep 20 15:25:33 * bzzbot overclocks QtXML classes until QtXML classes burns out Sep 20 15:25:51 reads an xml fine Sep 20 15:25:54 pass this xml through xmllint Sep 20 15:25:59 no longer parseable Sep 20 15:26:00 *sigh* Sep 20 15:26:07 so much for standards complaince Sep 20 15:28:44 tzz Sep 20 15:29:55 at least bzzbot won't have any difficulties to overclock QT until it burns ;-) Sep 20 15:30:16 ah, now it würgs Sep 20 15:30:23 hehehe Sep 20 15:30:26 taking phonesim with me on vacation Sep 20 15:30:33 since u-boot passthrough mode is broken :( Sep 20 15:30:35 oh noes Sep 20 15:31:39 uboot vs QT?? what's phonesim? o.O Sep 20 15:32:00 phonesim is a modem simulator written in Qt Sep 20 15:32:11 eeeerrrxxx Sep 20 15:32:40 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * rba5dcf68bbd1 10/modems/ (peers.xml ti_calypso.xml): add sane emulation of TI CALYPSO respecting actual format standards Sep 20 15:33:39 mickeyl: do you think that's a good idea to spoil your holidays with stuff like that? Sep 20 15:34:15 * DocScrutinizer-8 recommends a few good books (maybe ebooks) Sep 20 15:34:19 probably not... Sep 20 15:34:30 ya, packed some books as well Sep 20 15:35:25 "Best practices for Frameworks" Sep 20 15:35:41 "Songtexte schreiben -- Handwerk und Dramaturgie" Sep 20 15:35:47 mickeyl: starts with "Do not trust the german guy" I hope? Sep 20 15:35:50 "Harmonielehre und Songwriting" Sep 20 15:35:58 Ainulindale: for sure :D Sep 20 15:36:29 i reckon i won't come to any developing Sep 20 15:36:35 but perhaps i can write some pages for the Vala book Sep 20 15:36:38 we'll see Sep 20 15:38:10 mickeyl: U got mail ;-) Sep 20 15:42:07 * Weiss growls at (what seems to be) a compiler bug Sep 20 15:43:56 DocScrutinizer: thanks :) Sep 20 15:44:56 welcome. Can't live with imagining you on phonesim all of your holyday :) Sep 20 15:49:24 is upgrading shr-u safe at the moment? :/ Sep 20 15:49:40 mickeyl: I really wonder which platform setup you might need to make uboot work with phonesim 8-) Sep 20 15:49:55 agg1n: I doubt Sep 20 15:50:11 well, u-boot would be an alternative to phonesim Sep 20 15:50:24 if laf0rge's GSM pass-through mode would still work Sep 20 15:50:32 then i could use the real modem Sep 20 15:50:51 (since i don't want to cross-compile anything and run on the neo) Sep 20 15:50:59 so fsogsmd runs on the laptop Sep 20 15:51:04 but the laptop has no modem to test w/ Sep 20 15:51:12 yes Sep 20 15:51:19 thought that Sep 20 15:51:58 use a usb-UMTS-dongle? Sep 20 15:54:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * rca7f5d98dc6d 10/ (10 files in 2 dirs): data => modems Sep 20 15:54:42 if I had one Sep 20 15:54:46 then this would be a good option Sep 20 15:55:02 mickeyl: or nfs-mount FRs sysfs on your PC? Sep 20 15:55:15 input nodes can't be mounted Sep 20 15:55:19 nor forwarded Sep 20 15:55:29 ouch Sep 20 15:55:39 yeah, tried all options Sep 20 15:55:42 a pitty Sep 20 15:55:56 netcat? Sep 20 15:56:03 same Sep 20 15:56:12 nc on one side, pty on the other Sep 20 15:56:13 no go Sep 20 15:56:17 incredible Sep 20 15:56:24 anyways, i wanted to play w/ phonesim for a long while Sep 20 15:56:29 so this is a good chance Sep 20 15:56:32 being forced to Sep 20 15:57:02 it's a cool tool to test certain things Sep 20 15:57:13 you can call a number and it will do something special Sep 20 15:57:15 enjoy sheckley ;-) A better option for holiday Sep 20 15:57:16 call back or so Sep 20 15:57:20 hehe Sep 20 15:57:31 can also test cell broadcasts, sms, phonebook, etc. Sep 20 15:58:02 hmm, sounds nice Sep 20 15:58:58 yeah, and a (minimal) gui Sep 20 15:59:13 woohoo Sep 20 15:59:40 showing signal strength? ;-P Sep 20 15:59:50 it has a slider for that, yes Sep 20 16:00:05 hehe :-D great Sep 20 16:00:16 and network registration Sep 20 16:00:34 so you can inject interesting messages Sep 20 16:00:39 and see how your parser reacts to that Sep 20 16:00:51 should've played with that earlier Sep 20 16:00:52 repo URL? Sep 20 16:01:03 git.freesmartphone.org/phonesim Sep 20 16:01:09 k Sep 20 16:01:23 sounds like fun Sep 20 16:01:25 after starting it, it listens on a socket Sep 20 16:01:31 gui will only appear once you connect to it Sep 20 16:01:39 so telnet localhost 12345 and have fun playing Sep 20 16:02:49 /dev/tty? Sep 20 16:02:58 no, listens on a socket Sep 20 16:03:10 no problem though, fsogsmd can talk to sockets Sep 20 16:03:22 aah, i c Sep 20 16:03:27 it's going to be helpful for automated regression tests as well btw. Sep 20 16:03:32 something i wanted to have since day 1 Sep 20 16:04:50 sure. We needed regtests for whole system. :-/ Sep 20 16:07:07 especially for kernel Sep 20 16:07:32 *nod* Sep 20 16:08:38 hmm Sep 20 16:08:40 *ECAV: 1,5,0,,,\"49123232323\",145\r\n Sep 20 16:08:52 hardcoded to some greenphone crap Sep 20 16:08:54 *sigh* Sep 20 16:09:06 greenphone, lol Sep 20 16:09:08 need to change the modem definition file Sep 20 16:09:57 fwiw, some info @ http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/modem-simulator.html Sep 20 16:14:38 dinner is a good idea :) Sep 20 16:14:39 bbl Sep 20 16:18:23 mickey|dinner: ""Note: It is preferred that a fully functioning modem be used where possible as phonesim is a simulated tool and not designed as a total replacement for a functioning modem."" - - hehe, would be cool to have full UTMS access via phonesim ;-D Sep 20 16:18:51 hehe Sep 20 16:19:27 my c++ is a bit rusty, but lets see how many tricks i can teach that dog Sep 20 16:27:31 well if you can teach it to do full HSPA without any hw, preferrably on an anonymous testaccount so you don't even need any prepaid sim... that would be a great piece of sw for sure ;-P Sep 20 16:28:50 mickey|dinner: maybe you get the processor clock to do 1900/2100 QAM ;-) Sep 20 16:29:51 still we need a receiver part Sep 20 16:51:22 dos1: ping Sep 20 16:52:14 mrmoku: half pong Sep 20 16:53:22 dos1: my images end up without having xf86-video-glamo included Sep 20 16:53:27 dos1: gf there? :P Sep 20 16:54:51 Hi All! Sep 20 16:55:00 no, something much worse Sep 20 16:55:37 stomachache, headache... Sep 20 16:55:48 dos1: uhh... ok Sep 20 16:55:51 dos1: can I write my own app which will listen to SMS notifications and filter out those it needs? Sep 20 16:55:56 dos1: go back to bed then :) Sep 20 16:56:05 mrmoku: well, i'm in bed] Sep 20 16:56:07 ;) Sep 20 16:56:23 dos1: I think I know why it does not get included Sep 20 16:56:27 XSERVER is wrong Sep 20 16:57:00 it should be something like: Sep 20 16:57:01 XSERVER = "xserver-xorg \ xf86-input-evdev \ xf86-input-tslib \ xf86-video-omapfb " Sep 20 16:57:27 we just set it to xserver-xorg as far as I can tell Sep 20 17:21:47 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * r1c86ed5cb55e 10/lib/phonesim.cpp: don't swallow \r\n when unknown command issues ERROR Sep 20 18:08:01 lindi-, PaulFertser: x11perf says everything is slower after suspend&resume Sep 20 18:08:22 on clean boot it's ~ 25000000 trep @ 0.0010 msec (1000000.0/sec): Dot Sep 20 18:08:24 dos1: what about restarting X Sep 20 18:08:49 after suspend&resume 20000000 trep @ 0.0016 msec (610000.0/sec): Dot Sep 20 18:09:10 PaulFertser: well, it's unclear for me. sometimes it returned to first value, sometimes it stayed on that lower Sep 20 18:09:17 bus mostly stayed on lower Sep 20 18:20:23 dos1: Xorg? Sep 20 18:20:33 not, kdrive Sep 20 18:20:41 i'll check it with xorg too Sep 20 18:20:54 dos1: ok, please file a bug report in any case. i keep forgetting the details every time Sep 20 18:25:38 dos1: who cares about kdrive and why? Sep 20 18:41:30 dos1: which x11perf command did you use? Sep 20 18:43:37 dos1: with -all it's "3000000 trep @ 0.0096 msec (104000.0/sec): Dot" here with xorg. Sep 20 18:49:04 max_posedon: what about ubi? ;) Sep 20 18:49:38 I failed to generate image, because of some params Sep 20 18:49:55 PaulFertser: x11perf -all Sep 20 18:50:51 max_posedon: so what params do you miss? How did you flash the image? Are you sure you tried to flash ubinized image? Sep 20 18:51:42 I don't even tried, because Sep 20 18:52:11 of missing -c param Sep 20 18:52:21 and I don't know how to calculate it Sep 20 18:52:38 mkfs.ubifs -m 2048 -e 128KiB -c > -r /opt/img ubifs.img Sep 20 18:52:41 mkfs.ubifs -m 2048 -e 128KiB -c ??? -r /opt/img ubifs.img Sep 20 18:53:22 max_posedon: let me tell you :) Sep 20 18:55:28 max_posedon: -c 2047 Sep 20 18:55:41 max_posedon: -e is wrong !!! Sep 20 18:55:53 so, what should be? Sep 20 18:56:00 max_posedon: i told you yesterday... Sep 20 18:56:11 ok, let me check logs Sep 20 18:57:24 max_posedon: 20-09-2009 00:32:59 > PaulFertser: max_posedon: logical erase block should be 128*1024 - 2*2048 which is xactly 126976, as expected. Sep 20 18:57:33 20-09-2009 00:34:32 > PaulFertser: max_posedon: and pass -p 128KiB to ubinize Sep 20 18:58:23 so, mkfs.ubifs -m 2048 -e 124KiB -c 2047 -r /opt/img ubifs.img Sep 20 18:58:43 max_posedon: yes, i think so Sep 20 19:01:37 max_posedon: in fact -c 2047 is wrong but it doesn't matter. It'll just allow you to create an image too big. Since you have less files, the image will be created of reasonable size. Sep 20 19:12:04 mickey|dinner, alphaone, libfsoframework-0.2.3.tar.bz2 in tests doesn't contain some vala files, only C Sep 20 19:25:12 hey onen|openBmap! Sep 20 19:25:19 I'm thinking of buying a motercycle Sep 20 19:25:26 that will be good for openBmap ;-) Sep 20 19:27:49 Zorkman: :-O Sep 20 19:28:49 Zorkman: it does not make a big difference if you go to the same places ;-) (I am logging very little lately, because I have already logged eveerywhere I go usually :-( ) Sep 20 19:28:59 Zorkman: how are things? the new job? Sep 20 19:35:29 onen|openBmap: thanks for asking, everything is fine Sep 20 19:35:47 but i'm using public transportation atm to go to work (traffic doesn't allow me to use a car...) Sep 20 19:36:01 but it takes 4h+ each day... Sep 20 19:36:15 a motercycle might be the sollution (company bike) Sep 20 19:36:50 and if I really like it i think i'll drive a bit in the weekends and do some logging :) Sep 20 19:37:04 i've also logged almost everywhere I normally go Sep 20 19:37:20 but thinking of going on a small trip with my gf in the near future Sep 20 19:37:32 maybe morocco or tunis or something like that, will take my FR along ;-) Sep 20 19:38:44 maybe i'll form a FR/openBmap motercycle club ;-) Sep 20 19:38:59 't will probably be a one man show in belgium :D Sep 20 19:39:51 one of the Cambridge (UK) OM types goes motorbiking with his FR Sep 20 19:42:05 Zorkman: :-D Sep 20 19:43:51 part of my company is in the uk and already have been there on a business trip Sep 20 19:44:01 so who knows, might meet and greet him :) Sep 20 19:45:44 off to a quiz, catch you later! Sep 20 19:58:08 dos1: feeling better? Sep 20 20:13:10 mrmoku: no... Sep 20 20:13:14 mrmoku: going to sleep Sep 20 20:13:20 mrmoku: it will be looong night ;/// Sep 20 20:13:31 dos1: drink hot water with lemmon and sugar Sep 20 20:14:02 dos1: helps me a lot with stomach problems Sep 20 20:14:04 woah! good night dos1 Sep 20 20:14:10 _late Sep 20 20:14:12 :S Sep 20 21:02:26 plane lift off in a couple of hours -- see you in two weeks! good speed! Sep 20 21:33:08 DocScrutinizer: what I want to achieve with my table: determin unused or not-touchable variables Sep 20 21:33:36 also there are some variables which differs between states, and dunno, if it is really required Sep 20 21:33:43 especially gsmbluetooth differs the msot Sep 20 21:34:39 DocScrutinizer: I really didnt want to dive into this alsa mess. But Im forced to. People always complaining to me Sep 20 21:35:34 khiraly1: the idea is that nobody should be "fixing" old statefiles, he should probably design new sane path from scratch. Sep 20 22:54:14 or even better get rid of the concept of statefiles completely Sep 20 23:07:07 larsc: yeah! :-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 21 02:59:56 2009